Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[Cerberus v666]

So, balance wise:

Again, I think it's slightly scumsided. Giving a SK knowledge of an entire scum faction with limited protections, while giving the other SK only unlimited BP, is definitely not fair for the unlimited BP SK.

Toogs universal protective should not have existed. A50 saw what that did in the first game, and it doesn't make sense to do it again this game. Bad design decision imo.

Nerfing the mafia by giving them the usurper and making them a 3 man team who thought they were a 4 man team(yet letting the 4th man still get them a win) is also poor balance between the groupscum factions.

Not sure why we got shot at 4x, I don't think that makes any sense, but *shrug*.

[Cerberus v666]

There's probably more thoughts I could come up with, but meh atm.

[DrewVa]

I once won as scum by getting Mathdino to vote/gladiate eddie cane while he was at a party IRL I respect Mathdino but I had worked out a way to get obv town eddie quickvoted. I had to push him to vote before eddie got back, there's noway I think less of Math it's just that all the dynamics in the game lead to that point. Eddie did what cerb is doing now and acknowledged everyone for my win except me.

As I said CheekyTeeky, if FL just, ya know, tells me that they knew DrewVa would play the way they did, kudos to them, well done.

Still doesn't make DrewVa's play good, but makes their success more impressive.

@FL: *shrug* you can't say that with certainty. 24/48 hours of back and forth with amzela and drewva actually talking to one another, instead of just talking to you(again, mistake, you only talked to one individual before making your decision), and the game could have went any way. I get that you feel like you could have won no matter what, but unless you know how drewva will act(both heads) in all circumstances, there's no way to be sure you'll win because Amzela is a complete unknown to you.

How does someone who played so abominably bad, that he single-handedly managed to get his slot vigged, ever have the arrogance and unbelievable hypocrisy to judge me here?

Where is your well-deserved apology to Thor, huh? You cost him HIS game. Don’t you feel at all bad about that? All he needed to do to win, was to correctly shoot scum but thanks to your uberscummy play throughout the entire game, he lost his game by shooting you. That is 100% on YOUR head, not his. I wouldn’t have mistakenly shot you because Drixx was obvtown but you counteracted that by playing like obvscum.

[RCEnigma]

Good game everybody I wanted to win with SK but thems the breaks. Thank Mod for non multitasking scum lol.

The flavor was great A50 I enjoyed it and I'm not even a big Stallone buff.

[RCEnigma]

Ebwop: both SK*

[CheekyTeeky]

Guys nom this game for flavour or whatever else you deem it appropriate it for.

[Cerberus v666]

I once won as scum by getting Mathdino to vote/gladiate eddie cane while he was at a party IRL I respect Mathdino but I had worked out a way to get obv town eddie quickvoted. I had to push him to vote before eddie got back, there's noway I think less of Math it's just that all the dynamics in the game lead to that point. Eddie did what cerb is doing now and acknowledged everyone for my win except me.

As I said CheekyTeeky, if FL just, ya know, tells me that they knew DrewVa would play the way they did, kudos to them, well done.

Still doesn't make DrewVa's play good, but makes their success more impressive.

@FL: *shrug* you can't say that with certainty. 24/48 hours of back and forth with amzela and drewva actually talking to one another, instead of just talking to you(again, mistake, you only talked to one individual before making your decision), and the game could have went any way. I get that you feel like you could have won no matter what, but unless you know how drewva will act(both heads) in all circumstances, there's no way to be sure you'll win because Amzela is a complete unknown to you.

How does someone who played so abominably bad, that he single-handedly managed to get his slot vigged, ever have the arrogance and unbelievable hypocrisy to judge me here?

Where is your well-deserved apology to Thor, huh? You cost him HIS game. Don’t you feel at all bad about that? All he needed to do to win, was to correctly shoot scum but thanks to your uberscummy play throughout the entire game, he lost his game by shooting you. That is 100% on YOUR head, not his. I wouldn’t have mistakenly shot you because Drixx was obvtown but you counteracted that by playing like obvscum.

Okay, let's correct another one of your misconceptions(I was hoping someone else would do this, but whatever)

Here's thor's role

You are probably gonna hate me for this, but you are "Ray Quick" (from: The Specialist 1994). Lured by the irresistible temptation of Sharon Stone at her prime (she was only 36 then and just 2 years after she made Basic Instinct), you could not resist but to indulge her by bombing the mafia that had killed her family.

You are a Self-Aligned Bomber, and your task is really simple. Suicide unto someone during the daytime of your choice. If your target flips Town you will lose and if they flip anti-town you will win. You lose if you die before you detonate though, so keep an open eye for scum tells and don't take too long.

"You like watching them die? You like taking them down? Now I'm taking you down. You're finished in the agency. You're going no higher. You're as dead as those people in the river. We both are."

Simple. Huh? Now PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.

P.S. Just in case you need a fake claim at any point; you may claim the same character. But say your role is PGO. This should keep most everybody away from you at night, unless you really have good reads (or you suck that nobody's buying your claim).

Here's the important part of thor's role

Suicide unto someone during the daytime of your choice.

Thor didn't suicide onto us. They got shot. We drew 2 scum shots to our slot. We also drew 2 vig shots to our slot, one of which didn't happen because of the max kills per phase rule, and the other was us getting protected by toogs universal doctor.

Point being, stop talking about Thor homie. We had nothing to do with that.

[DrewVa]

There's probably more thoughts I could come up with, but meh atm.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

~Mark Twain

[profii]

:@ I copped you n1 because I knew you were scum FL :@

Well done though

I called that out immediately in the scum thread.

I'm still going to say it a lot anyway haha

I am not going to tell you the scum slip i got you on :p I knew you were scum on day 1 though :@ I just didnt know when i was going to be able to lynch you - the only real opportunity was after the BuJ flip but I died because that was such an obvious gambit to me but i know how you play :@

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, it’s funny how all 5 of us on the scum team were the first ones to show up this game.

It was this, wasn’t it?

[DrewVa]

I once won as scum by getting Mathdino to vote/gladiate eddie cane while he was at a party IRL I respect Mathdino but I had worked out a way to get obv town eddie quickvoted. I had to push him to vote before eddie got back, there's noway I think less of Math it's just that all the dynamics in the game lead to that point. Eddie did what cerb is doing now and acknowledged everyone for my win except me.

As I said CheekyTeeky, if FL just, ya know, tells me that they knew DrewVa would play the way they did, kudos to them, well done.

Still doesn't make DrewVa's play good, but makes their success more impressive.

@FL: *shrug* you can't say that with certainty. 24/48 hours of back and forth with amzela and drewva actually talking to one another, instead of just talking to you(again, mistake, you only talked to one individual before making your decision), and the game could have went any way. I get that you feel like you could have won no matter what, but unless you know how drewva will act(both heads) in all circumstances, there's no way to be sure you'll win because Amzela is a complete unknown to you.

How does someone who played so abominably bad, that he single-handedly managed to get his slot vigged, ever have the arrogance and unbelievable hypocrisy to judge me here?

Where is your well-deserved apology to Thor, huh? You cost him HIS game. Don’t you feel at all bad about that? All he needed to do to win, was to correctly shoot scum but thanks to your uberscummy play throughout the entire game, he lost his game by shooting you. That is 100% on YOUR head, not his. I wouldn’t have mistakenly shot you because Drixx was obvtown but you counteracted that by playing like obvscum.

Okay, let's correct another one of your misconceptions(I was hoping someone else would do this, but whatever)

Here's thor's role

You are probably gonna hate me for this, but you are "Ray Quick" (from: The Specialist 1994). Lured by the irresistible temptation of Sharon Stone at her prime (she was only 36 then and just 2 years after she made Basic Instinct), you could not resist but to indulge her by bombing the mafia that had killed her family.

You are a Self-Aligned Bomber, and your task is really simple. Suicide unto someone during the daytime of your choice. If your target flips Town you will lose and if they flip anti-town you will win. You lose if you die before you detonate though, so keep an open eye for scum tells and don't take too long.

"You like watching them die? You like taking them down? Now I'm taking you down. You're finished in the agency. You're going no higher. You're as dead as those people in the river. We both are."

Simple. Huh? Now PM me back with your role so I know you understand it and are up for the task.

P.S. Just in case you need a fake claim at any point; you may claim the same character. But say your role is PGO. This should keep most everybody away from you at night, unless you really have good reads (or you suck that nobody's buying your claim).

Here's the important part of thor's role

Suicide unto someone during the daytime of your choice.

Thor didn't suicide onto us. They got shot. We drew 2 scum shots to our slot. We also drew 2 vig shots to our slot, one of which didn't happen because of the max kills per phase rule, and the other was us getting protected by toogs universal doctor.

Point being, stop talking about Thor homie. We had nothing to do with that.

How do you know he didn’t shoot you? The only other possibility was widely obvtown read Pint.

Why does scum ever kill you here, you were blatantly scumsiding the entire game.

If I was scum in this game, my nicname for you would be Santa.

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.

Late game I was like “Damn, this is going to come back to haunt me. And then I brought it up for Wisdom. And then I was like damn, that’s gonna come back to haunt me.

But like, I definitely would’ve done that stuff as town. I just would have ALSO done it as scum.


Boonskiies sig has Yes, I would do that as town.
FL sig has Yes, I would do that as scum. Haha.

[profii]

I was also very impressed with Profii in this one.

Thanks - kinda pleased i caught you because you got me in a game i replaced into agesss ago and i couldnt get out of it so that's good :p

i targeted scum 4/5 nights and went for amzela because i thought i was going to die and wasn't sure if there were spoilers in the dead thread

I feel like i had a good game



also - thanks to A50 - i dont play many large games but the rapid deaths seem to make it something my tiny brain could cope with so this is probably one of the most enjoyable games I've played - so well done to you!

[Flavor Leaf]

I also DEFINITELY got a Not Vanilla result on Pint, so he flipped Vanilla and I was like, wtf, so I’m glad I never talked about that.

[profii]

All I knew was I had to take Wisdom out.

I shot at him twice in a row to make sure he was gone. That guy scares me.

I was never lynching him. As Profil showed, he voted very similarly to us all game.

I thought he was scum of some kind - i think i submitted a cop action on him and changed it one night!

[DrewVa]

:@ I copped you n1 because I knew you were scum FL :@

Well done though

I called that out immediately in the scum thread.

I'm still going to say it a lot anyway haha

I am not going to tell you the scum slip i got you on :p I knew you were scum on day 1 though :@ I just didnt know when i was going to be able to lynch you - the only real opportunity was after the BuJ flip but I died because that was such an obvious gambit to me but i know how you play :@

I wish you had said something along the lines of, when I die, lynch FL.

Next time, I’ll pay more attention to your reads. We almost investigated FL that night but fell for the PGO bs.

[Cerberus v666]

@Nancy: Honestly, I have NO IDEA why scum would shoot us, we were playing terribly. We weren't scumsiding, we were just town who was wrong; perhaps there was fear that with flips and us reevaluating the game state since we had been proven wrong(since, ya know, we're players who actually do that), we'd end up actually being useful.

There's also the fact that profii claimed to have an Inno on us. Yeah. That's probably why.

I know Thor didn't shoot us because HE COULD ONLY ACT DURING THE DAY, and we died at night.

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[Cerberus v666]

Oh right.

Profii, you did good.

[DrewVa]

I also DEFINITELY got a Not Vanilla result on Pint, so he flipped Vanilla and I was like, wtf, so I’m glad I never talked about that.

Wow really? How was that even possible?

@A50, you got some ‘splaning to do.

But yeah, the game might have ended differently, had you done that.

[DrewVa]

@Nancy: Honestly, I have NO IDEA why scum would shoot us, we were playing terribly. We weren't scumsiding, we were just town who was wrong; perhaps there was fear that with flips and us reevaluating the game state since we had been proven wrong(since, ya know, we're players who actually do that), we'd end up actually being useful.

There's also the fact that profii claimed to have an Inno on us. Yeah. That's probably why.

I know Thor didn't shoot us because HE COULD ONLY ACT DURING THE DAY, and we died at night.

...

But I’m a terrible player for not being God? Riiiiiight.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nero got me up twice with his bus driving shenanigans.

Tails killed RR, I believe.

[profii]

I think it's oddly romantic the way Cerb is being protective of Amzela.

I've noticed this too I'd have liked to see Amzela get stuck into that LyLo but hey ho - the same thing happened to me in another game with different players - it's frustrating bad luck but there will be other opportunities...

[Cerberus v666]

@Nancy: Honestly, I have NO IDEA why scum would shoot us, we were playing terribly. We weren't scumsiding, we were just town who was wrong; perhaps there was fear that with flips and us reevaluating the game state since we had been proven wrong(since, ya know, we're players who actually do that), we'd end up actually being useful.

There's also the fact that profii claimed to have an Inno on us. Yeah. That's probably why.

I know Thor didn't shoot us because HE COULD ONLY ACT DURING THE DAY, and we died at night.

...

But I’m a terrible player for not being God? Riiiiiight.

You're a terrible player for ending the day in LYLO within 8 hours of day start, when one of the players had barely played all game and was thus not someone who you could reasonably have developed a read on, and the other player had claimed to gain a 1 shot cop ability when the game already had a cop, fbi agent, and vanilla cop.

There was no benefit to ending the game quickly, it was a bad play, and that's basically it. Hell, if you had rushed to lynch FL, I would be calling you and Amzela out on being terrible for not spending more time discussing the game.

[profii]

Guys nom this game for flavour or whatever else you deem it appropriate it for.

I will work out to how to do this !

[Flavor Leaf]

Nero also got around my ascetic, so I’m unsure if my 1-shot of Ascetic ever got used.

Cheeky roleblocked Profii night 1, so that didn’t use it up.

Global doc also didn’t use it up, I asked.

So i think I had a 1-shot ascetic passive still up.