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Post Post #4217 (isolation #200) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:52 pm

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I targeted him, and got Mafia. I had one shot of this after Alonzo died.
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Post Post #4218 (isolation #201) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:55 pm

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In post 4216, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4214, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4213, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3476, Flavor Leaf wrote:
My role allows me to pick my own flavor if someone dies because of my role. I have a two part role, one that requires me to have a targeting mechanic, and one that happens passively after something happens. I don’t know when, if that occurs, or if it has occurred already.

The death implies that this passively has happened already, because I didn’t target said player who died with my flavor.
That was part of the one same claim I made earlier.
Is it possible after BEF flip, he realized you didn’t have a PGO?

Have you ever faked any guilties as either alignment?
Hmm...yes.

And the annoying answer...I think I've only done it as town. A lot of times if I do this, I take it back, though. Like, I'll claim to have a watcher guilty, but at the end of the segment, I'll say I don't. I don't believe I've ever pushed a hard guilty and not backtracked besides in my early days on site, like 4 years ago.

I've fakeclaimed Mason with a Scum person, though. I was town.

I might have done it as scum, but I can't think of any game off the top of my head where I have in forum mafia.
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Post Post #4219 (isolation #202) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:55 pm

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I think I've only faked innocents as scum. That's interesting. I'm going to have try and change that, haha.
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Post Post #4220 (isolation #203) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:00 pm

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@Dave - you've played the most games with me here. Have I faked a guilty as scum before? Like, we know I've done stuff like that as town, but I'm genuinely confused as to whether or not I have faked a guilty as scum. Any games you remember where I have...?

I think I've claimed like soft guilties on people. I like to use Loyal in my fake claims. It's safer.
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Post Post #4224 (isolation #204) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:14 pm

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In post 177, Varsoon wrote:
In post 164, BuJaber wrote:My crumbing skills are of the chart man. Nobody caught it last game nobody will this game.
Isn't the point of crumbs that people pick them up?
NOT THAT IT MATTERS EVEN IF YOU DO CRUMB SOMETHIN
LIKE IT'S NOT AS IF PEOPLE WILL PICK UP A GUILTY CRUMB AND ACTUALLY LYNCH ON IT
EVEN WHEN YOU EXPLICITLY. SPELL. IT. OUT.
I've done it as town years ago. I don't believe I have in a while. I don't think I've ever pushed a hard guilty as scum. I'm kind of a puppet master like scum, where I get my teammates to do that rather than do it myself, and then I weave a lot of setup speculation.

If I've ever done a hard guilty, it likely was in a lylo situation with multiple scum partners alive.

So like, there might be something out there, I don't know to be sure. there's been a lot of scum games I've had over my multiple accounts. But I want to say there hasn't been a flat out "hard" guilty coming from ScumMe.
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Post Post #4225 (isolation #205) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:14 pm

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Oops. I was trying to find connections between Bujaber and Varsoon, and guess I quoted that.
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Post Post #4227 (isolation #206) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:16 pm

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In post 4226, DrewVa wrote:Flavor Leaf has not actually retracted right? -D
Nope, and I would have by now if I was just reaction testing.

Bujaber's scum.
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Post Post #4228 (isolation #207) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:17 pm

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I literally came into this day phase and backtracked my whole entire claim prior to this day phase. He's Mafia.
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Post Post #4230 (isolation #208) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:23 pm

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Clemency (14): Fortian (830), pinturicchio (1599), RCEnigma (1601), Wisdom (1650), davesaz (1658), BrightEyedFish (1731), Alchemist21 (1750), Tails (1913), BuJaber (2022), Alonzo (2242), profii (2288), DrewVa (2381), hebichan (2406), Clemency (2407),

7 of this wagon is alive. Clemency self hammered and is the only mafia flipped on this wagon.

Fortian, Wisdom, Daves, Tails, Bujaber, Profii, DrewVa.

Scum is in here. Scum is Bujaber, and then probably Fortian, but Fortian siding with me doesn't benefit UnderdogFortian, however, so maybe it's not Fortian.
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Post Post #4235 (isolation #209) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:51 pm

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Profii can continue clearing people from Underdogs.

Amzela is conf not Underdog.

I forgot what his other targets were.
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Post Post #4294 (isolation #210) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:26 pm

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Why is DrewVa cleared for you, Tails? Why was that a town tell? It cleared them of 3rd party?

I think I was leaning DrewVa/Tails to be 3rd party after those flips.
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Post Post #4295 (isolation #211) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:28 pm

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Who’s left?

DrewVa
Tails
Fortian
Dave
Amzela
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Post Post #4296 (isolation #212) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:29 pm

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In post 4289, Tails wrote:Fort or Dave. Flavor and Amz are conf. town. Nancy is almost that level to me unless I was completely blindsided by the town tell on d2.
Why is Amzela cleared of 3rd party to you?
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Post Post #4298 (isolation #213) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:32 pm

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I’d prefer if DrewVa/Tails we’re first, followed by Amzela, then Fortian/Dave last, tbh.

I saw Fortian as groupscum, I don’t see him as SK.
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Post Post #4299 (isolation #214) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:33 pm

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In post 4297, Amzela wrote:I apologize for being a shit player. Work and family exploded in face.

Am... I correct in seeing... the game is leaning towards a town win?
Actually, Amzela, since you’re here, you can claim next. Then popcorn it over to Tails.
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Post Post #4300 (isolation #215) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:05 pm

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I actually think DGB was pretty solid, tbh, considering.

They were trying not to get night killed.

Wisdom probably killed Profii based on the Underdog thing.
Meaning 3rd party or town killing role killed the other 2.

I’m thinking scum’s gone from this game. 6 mafia flipped. I’d say we’re probably looking for a SK. I don’t think SK kills DGB there, so that was probably a town killing role.

I think everyone should just claim in their next post. Idc about flavor, tbh, just want the roles.
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Post Post #4301 (isolation #216) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:08 pm

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In post 4298, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’d prefer if DrewVa/Tails we’re first, followed by Amzela, then Fortian/Dave last, tbh.

I saw Fortian as groupscum, I don’t see him as SK.

Sorry, them.
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Post Post #4302 (isolation #217) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:53 pm

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Fortian didn’t have any reason to start town reading me so hard if they are 3rd party yesterday.

DrewVa’s back and forth is what pinged me. It’s like they were trying to figure out what the better mislynch path was for them.

Tails early this day is pinging me.

Amzela hasn’t really done much, but I could see that coming from not knowing forum mafia too well. However, if it’s them, that’s an easy front to hide behind and get away with not doing much. If they’re 3rd party, and we lose to that, that sucks.

Dave I generally get scum pings around this time hard, and I haven’t, so I guess gut, but gut’s what’s honestly going to work best for me at this point in the game, because I feel there’s reasons for and against all of you. At this point.


Fortian
Dave
Amzela
Tails
DrewVa

Is the order of townieness to anti town I’m getting right now.
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Post Post #4303 (isolation #218) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:55 pm

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I didn’t go much into Tails because I’ve gone over why I thought tails was scum earlier in this game.

He says he’s confirmable. This is the time to confirm yourself or explain how you can be confirmed.

This day doesn’t end until everyone’s claimed.

We base on play, not relying on setup spec to get us out. Everyone claims.
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #219) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:55 pm

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In post 4303, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t go much into Tails because I’ve gone over why I thought tails was scum earlier in this game.

He says he’s confirmable. This is the time to confirm yourself or explain how you can be confirmed.

This day doesn’t end until everyone’s claimed.

We base on play, not relying on setup spec to get us out. Everyone claims.
In their next post.
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #220) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:00 pm

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Potential town killing role out there, you need to claim your kill on DGB/Wisdom.

This ALSO can potentially clear another townie based on the Singer gimmick.

Claim this after everyone’s claimed, though.

Still claim role in next post, though.
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Post Post #4306 (isolation #221) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:06 pm

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If you guys want me to solve the game, that’s fine, but I need you guys to post. :cry:
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Post Post #4309 (isolation #222) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:37 pm

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Fine. Amzela/Tails/Dave, y’all need to claim in your next post.
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Post Post #4310 (isolation #223) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:41 pm

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Also, I’m on set tomorrow, working on my own project Wednesday, and on set again Thursday, so i’ll Be limited the next few days, but you get Profii’s ass I’m solving this game this day phase.
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Post Post #4311 (isolation #224) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:41 pm

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In post 4310, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, I’m on set tomorrow, working on my own project Wednesday, and on set again Thursday, so i’ll Be limited the next few days, but you get Profii’s ass I’m solving this game this day phase.
I meant *bet, not get...
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Post Post #4313 (isolation #225) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:07 pm

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Solid.

Amzela and Tails, you’re up.

Then Drew, then Fortian.
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Post Post #4329 (isolation #226) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:37 pm

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Where did Amzela get confirmed?

Drew, you’re up.
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Post Post #4334 (isolation #227) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:45 pm

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We can trust that result no matter what, tbh. Amzela’s town.

Drew, you’re up.
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Post Post #4336 (isolation #228) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:48 pm

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If you’re a killing role, town wins.
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Post Post #4343 (isolation #229) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:54 pm

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VOTE: Tails

So my early Tails push was warranted. :lol:
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Post Post #4348 (isolation #230) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:01 pm

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In post 4345, Fortian wrote:I'm almost certain that Tails was revealed of DrewVa's role due to DGB's death and thus claimed "holstered" so he can try and go for the "Two SKs" thing as a defence here.
This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
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Post Post #4351 (isolation #231) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:05 pm

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In post 4350, Tails wrote:Both Drew and Fort have slipped up. But I think they might be trying for a kingmaker scenario.
As long as you understand you’re the lynch for the day still.
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Post Post #4354 (isolation #232) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:05 pm

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Are you calling both of them SK?
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Post Post #4357 (isolation #233) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:06 pm

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In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
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Post Post #4359 (isolation #234) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:08 pm

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In post 4358, Tails wrote:Yes. They're both SKs. How hard is that to understand?
If they’re both SK, they have to shoot each other tonight. :lol: and then town wins.
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Post Post #4363 (isolation #235) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:10 pm

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In post 4361, Fortian wrote:
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
I mean, she hard claimed twice, tis not really a risk at all.
You’re right. I didn’t recall the claims.
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Post Post #4364 (isolation #236) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:11 pm

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@Fortian - take me to kingmaker scenario with you. :lol:
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Post Post #4365 (isolation #237) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:13 pm

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That’s actually a pretty terrible end to the game. That’s depressing.

I felt like I had a great game this game.
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Post Post #4367 (isolation #238) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 4366, Fortian wrote:
In post 4364, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Fortian - take me to kingmaker scenario with you. :lol:
/Shrug

Should be blindingly obvious we're town, and even more obvious that DrewVa is legitimate.

One investigative role to catch all factions pretty much.

Game ends here.
I could have caught SK and Underdogs as well, though. I just didn’t. I only had one shot of it.
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Post Post #4370 (isolation #239) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:17 pm

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In post 4366, Fortian wrote:
In post 4364, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Fortian - take me to kingmaker scenario with you. :lol:
/Shrug

Should be blindingly obvious we're town, and even more obvious that DrewVa is legitimate.

One investigative role to catch all factions pretty much.

Game ends here.
I actually don’t think so. I don’t think you’re both SK, but I think one of you guys are.

I’m leaning DrewVa, though.
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Post Post #4374 (isolation #240) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:25 pm

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Tails was saying there’s 3 of you SK’s.
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #241) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:20 am

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Alonzo targeted people at night, he didn’t get the results, I did. When he died, I got a 1-shot ability (I knew I’d gain this from the beginning at some point in the game.) I caught Bujaber with it.
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Post Post #4428 (isolation #242) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:21 am

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@DrewVa - I’m 85% it’s just you. I made that percentage up.
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Post Post #4429 (isolation #243) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:29 am

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In post 4339, Fortian wrote:I mean think it was pretty obvious he was a SK even without the investigation, but awesome.
In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
In post 4361, Fortian wrote:
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
I mean, she hard claimed twice, tis not really a risk at all.
I was leaning DrewVa as a SK yesterday too. I agree with Fortian that Tails was obviously SK prior to DrewVa claiming, but Fortian made a good point about potentially making up that VT result if he actually got DrewVa’s role from DGB flip, which would explain why Tails started to town read DrewVa early yesterday.
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #244) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:32 am

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In post 4427, Flavor Leaf wrote:Alonzo targeted people at night, he didn’t get the results, I did. When he died, I got a 1-shot ability (I knew I’d gain this from the beginning at some point in the game.) I caught Bujaber with it.
My 1-shot was basically a true alignment shot. I’d have also been able to catch a SK had I targeted a SK instead of Bujaber, which is why I believe DrewVa made the role up. They were way too prepared, and it looked like pre planned crumbing. Either way, that is the case.
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #245) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:40 am

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In post 4118, DrewVa wrote:Flavor Leaf is capable of gambiting this as scum but this is way more believable than his pgo nonsense -d
In post 4231, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4163, Flavor Leaf wrote:And @Bujaber - my role is tied to Alonzo...i got all his results. I don’t have the same role as him.
In post 4159, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Profii - After Alonzo died, I got a 1-shot ability. I also knew that I’d get a 1-shot ability once whatever role that was giving me info died.

When Alonzo died and flipped, I was like “oh, cool, that’s how i was getting this info.” Because all the information I got was given to right after end of night phase. I didn’t know it was Alonzo.
In post 4128, Flavor Leaf wrote:I got a true alignment shot basically. I believe I would have found out if he was SK.
In post 4122, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4119, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4114, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?
Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.
It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.
So Bujaber and Tails are scum but you don’t know what kind?
Idk if tails is scum. He’s just not Vanilla. Bujaber is scum.

Tails was a target by Alonzo, not me. I got a 1 shot ability after Alonzo died.
In post 4121, Flavor Leaf wrote:I really wish you would have went me last night, Profii.

Bujaber is not Underdog, either.
In post 4115, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4113, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4103, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4101, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber
you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d
Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.
He was an amnesiac Vanilla cop, so you either get vanilla or non-vanilla, right?
For the first three nights, yes. I have my own action now that alonzo is Dead.
In post 4114, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?
Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.
It’s also why I started to expect Tails knew stuff when I pushed him. I learned he wasn’t vanilla.
In post 4111, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4106, Wisdom wrote:so tails is either vt or goon?
Wait, no Tails wasn’t vanilla.
In post 4108, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4105, DrewVa wrote:so bujaber is "not vanilla"?

-d
No. He’s Mafia.

I only got Alonzo’s Vanilla results, which is why i was trying not to get shot until after I was able to get my own target.
In post 4103, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4101, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber
you have one post to confirm this isn't a reaction test or I'm siding with scum

profii has already exhausted my willingness to fuck around for today

-d
Yeah, I have a guilty on Bujaber.
In post 4102, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pint Night 1. Tails Night 2. Gamma Night 3.

I knew Gamma was Vanilla, and for some reason thought he was conf town because of that yesterday.
In post 4099, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4096, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4094, Flavor Leaf wrote:Actually, I never did. I’m coming clean now. I’m town hardcore gambiting this game.
so you dont have anything to do with any of the kills?
Nope.

I’m an investigative. I got all of Alonzo’s Vanilla Cop results, and I became an alignment cop after he died.

I got a guilty on Bujaber.

VOTE: Bujaber
FL is definitely telling the truth about his role. I don’t believe he fakes this.

DrewVa town cased me when they were going back and forth with my slot when I got my Bujaber guilty. Around this time is when I suspected DrewVa of being Third Party.

And Tails apparently knew that DrewVa was a SK yesterday. Can’t trust Tails on that entirely, but everything makes me lean DrewVa.
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Post Post #4432 (isolation #246) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:43 am

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In post 3977, Amzela wrote:Oh shit son I think that's 8.

@FL
Also, I too missed 3847. I don't blame you. I am confused as how me voting RR when you think RR is scum makes me scum. It kinda seems back-firing.

Before this gets closed down, I want to mention that if you lynch me, I'm okay with that. It's going to be a mislynch and I think I angrily claimed VT at Hebi because I thought there couldn't be multiple roles, but from what I understand, VT is kind of useless anyways. But yeah.
In post 4426, Amzela wrote:Hey all it looks like I’m still alive and on PTO so I’m going to actually play this time.

FL, could you explain your role one more time please? Looking over the thread, I still have no idea how you and Alonzo worked.
In post 4297, Amzela wrote:I apologize for being a shit player. Work and family exploded in face.

Am... I correct in seeing... the game is leaning towards a town win?

On the flip side, 3 of the posts Amzela’s made, which has been less that 3 the past couple of days have been scummy, and I was thinking you were 3rd party because of it. The only thing I have for this slot is Tails vouching for it, but that’s trusting a SK’s word.
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Post Post #4433 (isolation #247) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:47 am

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To be fair, my thinking Amzela is 3rd party goes a couple days back, if I remember correctly.

Are you guys planning on making cases on each other or just waiting for me to vote?
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Post Post #4434 (isolation #248) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:52 am

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I’ve actually gone down to about 65% DrewVa. I made that up again.
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Post Post #4435 (isolation #249) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:56 am

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I know Amzela wasn’t the most caught up, but I don’t feel Amzela makes the Fortian kill in that situation.

Unless Amzela was so not caught up, that they killed Fortian because I stated a town read on Fortian.

I think Fortian would have been easier to mislynch, though.
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Post Post #4436 (isolation #250) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:57 am

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This fucking sucks, guys. :lol:
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Post Post #4437 (isolation #251) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:02 am

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In post 1150, Amzela wrote:Yay for jumping on wagons because you can't figure what the fuck is going on!

VOTE: DrippingGoofball
However, I'm gonna pull the newbie card and just jump on a wagon to see who flips what because I have no fucking idea what's going on here. If the Chick wagon continues, count me in. It feels like even a mislynch gives more information than not. (Or maybe I'm playing the game wrong who knows.)
However, if a Thor wagon gets going, I will definitely jump on it with you @Hebi.
Amzela’s just been jumping on wagons and coasting.

Literally the Tails claim of VT, and because it makes almost too much sense for DrewVa to being SK, are the only reasons I have for Amzela to not be it.

DrewVa did crumb.

@DrewVa - you crumbed too much. It looks super fake and predetermined to me.
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Post Post #4438 (isolation #252) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:03 am

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I need y’all here in real time.
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Post Post #4439 (isolation #253) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:06 am

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I hate 3p endgame. This game effectively becomes all on me to make the correct decision.
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Post Post #4440 (isolation #254) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:08 am

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In post 4437, Flavor Leaf wrote:@DrewVa - you crumbed too much. It looks super fake and predetermined to me.
Not saying this is a reason against you. I very much think you’d do that as town also, but was just stating how it makes me feel.
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Post Post #4441 (isolation #255) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:20 am

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Honestly, I might vote Amzela just because I’d rather potentially lose to DrewVa than Amzela.
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Post Post #4442 (isolation #256) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:59 am

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DrewVa, you’re SK af....:lol:

I really didn’t like that I came to start posting like 15 minutes after Amzela did and she didn’t have anything much to say except that she can play this day. She asked about my role, though.
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Post Post #4444 (isolation #257) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:00 am

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My gut mixed in with how the claim happened, and general posting style regarding players in the game and reads.
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #258) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:03 am

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@Amzela - it’s effectively You vs DrewVa. I’ve been proven town already.
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Post Post #4448 (isolation #259) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:14 am

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In post 4446, Amzela wrote:You’ve been proven town via your receives reads from Alonzo, FL?
I also guiltied Bujaber. You missed that day.
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Post Post #4449 (isolation #260) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:17 am

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In post 4447, Amzela wrote:My other question, and correct me if I’m wrong, is who did DrewVa investigate last night, if they investigated, and why?

FBI Agents (which is their claim) can investigate once per night right?
That’s what they’ve been claiming it like. Another reason I thought they were likely 3rd party. Because my shot was able to find a SK. That’s too swingy, even for this game. Under specific situations, 2 SK’s could have been outed by Day 2. Extremely unlikely, but it would have been possible.
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Post Post #4451 (isolation #261) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:21 am

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In post 4450, Amzela wrote:Yeah I saw that going through your iso with your 1-shot.

Admittedly, I’m trying really hard to not-Town read you and I have a lot of trouble. The only thing that makes me uneasy is your push to get things over with so quickly, but I also can’t tell if that’s normal cadence or just how you play. I know I’m the slow one here.

What do you mean by your shot found an SK?
I said my shot had the potential too, not that I found one. I got Bujaber.

I’m just posting a lot, and realized I need to talk to you guys real time to figure it out. Wasn’t trying to rush things. This game ends when it’s time for it to end.
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Post Post #4452 (isolation #262) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:23 am

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I can see why it looked like I was trying to get things to end quickly. It’s just how I post.
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Post Post #4453 (isolation #263) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:26 am

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How experienced are you at Mafia in general? You come off like you know how to play mafia, but are new to the forum side of things, and if I remember correctly, you are in fact friends with someone who was in the game, right?

I don’t know how well you can fake things, and that’s why I’m getting uneasiness from you.
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Post Post #4455 (isolation #264) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:30 am

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Well, when I talk to you, I get the “oh, she’s just new.” and I lean town, but then I think about it more, and I’m like “nah, she’s better than she’s letting off.”
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Post Post #4456 (isolation #265) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:34 am

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I was thinking about it earlier, and literally nothing DrewVa says is going to make me happy when regards to the investigate.

Fortian - Dead
Dave - Dead
Flavor - Innocent, I’m going to think it’s a ploy to get me to mislynch Amzela.
Flavor - Guilty, then I know for sure it’s DrewVa, but you have to see that I’m town.
Amzela - Innocent, this is effectively the same as the last one.
Amzela - Guilty, this is effectively the same as the Flavor Innocent one.
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Post Post #4457 (isolation #266) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:37 am

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In post 4456, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was thinking about it earlier, and literally nothing DrewVa says is going to make me happy when regards to the investigate.

Fortian - Dead
Dave - Dead
Flavor - Innocent, I’m going to think it’s a ploy to get me to mislynch Amzela.
Flavor - Guilty, then I know for sure it’s DrewVa, but you have to see that I’m town.
Amzela - Innocent, this is effectively the same as the last one.
Amzela - Guilty, this is effectively the same as the Flavor Innocent one.
This is for if DrewVa is town as well, except a couple of them can’t happen if DrewVa is town.
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Post Post #4458 (isolation #267) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:41 am

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In post 4450, Amzela wrote:Yeah I saw that going through your iso with your 1-shot.

Admittedly, I’m trying really hard to not-Town read you and I have a lot of trouble. The only thing that makes me uneasy is your push to get things over with so quickly, but I also can’t tell if that’s normal cadence or just how you play. I know I’m the slow one here.

What do you mean by your shot found an SK?

On the flip side, this post did well in making me comfortable with you as town, which also makes me uncomfortable.

You said you were trying hard not to town read me, but was having trouble with that. Earlier I thought that you saw why I was proven town, but was trying to keep an open mind, which is fine, covering all the bases.

But it technically also keeps me open for a potential mislynch.

I’m just stating anything that comes to my mind. It helps me figure things out.
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Post Post #4460 (isolation #268) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:43 am

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I mean, I generally do believe it’s DrewVa, as I have the past couple days. Paranoia is all.
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Post Post #4462 (isolation #269) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:05 am

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Pinn, Tails, Gamma.

I didn’t get anything for Amzela.
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Post Post #4463 (isolation #270) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:11 am

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If you look at me Day 4, I was stating I thought Gamma was town. I got the vanilla result then, and I thought Profii was gambiting with his guilty because of my role, mixed in with not expecting there to be another goon. I was wrong there, though. I wasn’t on any of the Underdog wagons, either. I don’t know if that makes me come off as scummier or townie, but I figured I should mention it.
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Post Post #4464 (isolation #271) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

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In post 4461, DrewVa wrote:Cool so we get to play "did fl gambit or did tails gambit"

I wanna say fl is more likely here but that also requires figuring out how fl knew buj was mafia and not sk/under

Also I think Nancy thinks its amz so we will probably need to actually be on at the same time to talk about this

Fl was there a vanilla result on amz? Who all did you get from alonzo again?
I did gambit, but I gambited as town. I explained when I claimed my real role.
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Post Post #4465 (isolation #272) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:19 am

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I understand the slight paranoia on me, but like...I feel like I’ve had an incredibly strong town game this game.

My play Day 3 I started pushing Tails because I got the result then, and he was being sketchy about the lack of flips. I even came in yesterday stating that Tails was the most likely SK, alongside you.

I stated Fortian/Dave were both probably town at the beginning of yesterday.

I don’t know if me analyzing my own play is helping or not. I’m just trying to have peoplesee that I’m town.
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Post Post #4466 (isolation #273) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:23 am

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Now I get that whichever one of you isn’t town benefits from having the paranoia up on me running is a good thing, but regardless, you guys gotta help me out here because from my perspective, I can’t tell at all which of you isn’t.

I was half hoping that DrewVa came in here and forced a 1v1 with me. I expected ScumDrewVa to do so.
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Post Post #4467 (isolation #274) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:31 am

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I feel like any case made against me is just a forced grasping at straws tbh.
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Post Post #4469 (isolation #275) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:32 am

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If you’re town, then he got your role or Fortian’s role.

Fortian made the case about that yesterday about you.

I don’t think he got Fortian’s.

I also don’t like that you’re nearly strictly focusing on me when you’re the most likely lynch today.
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Post Post #4470 (isolation #276) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
In post 4356, Fortian wrote:
In post 3404, Amzela wrote:
In post 3199, hebichan wrote:Does it?

Just because I'm voting on someone doesn't mean I care if I get lynched. I'm a VT in a role madness game again.

I just want to get my scumreads out before I die.
VOTE: hebichan

Get off my fucking role, scum.
In post 3977, Amzela wrote:Oh shit son I think that's 8.

@FL
Also, I too missed 3847. I don't blame you. I am confused as how me voting RR when you think RR is scum makes me scum. It kinda seems back-firing.

Before this gets closed down, I want to mention that if you lynch me, I'm okay with that. It's going to be a mislynch and I think I angrily claimed VT at Hebi because I thought there couldn't be multiple roles, but from what I understand, VT is kind of useless anyways. But yeah.
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4353, Fortian wrote:
In post 4348, Flavor Leaf wrote:This doesn’t add up, because how would he have known Amzela is VT.
She claimed?
No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
In post 4361, Fortian wrote:
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:No, but Tails claiming that is surefire death if he was wrong about the VT. I don’t think he makes that up even as SK.
I mean, she hard claimed twice, tis not really a risk at all.
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Post Post #4471 (isolation #277) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 4345, Fortian wrote:I'm almost certain that Tails was revealed of DrewVa's role due to DGB's death and thus claimed "holstered" so he can try and go for the "Two SKs" thing as a defence here.
Here.

We found out that the holstered thing wasn’t true, but yeah.
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Post Post #4474 (isolation #278) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:59 am

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I disagree that I’ve been “bad town”. I personally feel I’ve had a great town game this game.

I also had a town read on you the majority of the game, so I don’t understand. I didn’t start 3rd party reading you until later.

You brought up the “how can someone see us as scum, we conf town’d ourselves.”

No, I conf town’d myself.

I legit proved that I am town with the Bujaber thing. That was my entrance into that day, which was a complete 180 from anything I was talking about.

I had a theory about you being that role you claimed as a SK, but I thought I was going too much. But if you felt you were the only SK in the game, that’s an easy gambit.
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Post Post #4475 (isolation #279) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:00 am

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I think I instinctively read Nancy as town, and Dva as scum. That’s where I’m at right now.
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Post Post #4476 (isolation #280) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 4473, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4449, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4447, Amzela wrote:My other question, and correct me if I’m wrong, is who did DrewVa investigate last night, if they investigated, and why?

FBI Agents (which is their claim) can investigate once per night right?
That’s what they’ve been claiming it like. Another reason I thought they were likely 3rd party. Because my shot was able to find a SK. That’s too swingy, even for this game. Under specific situations, 2 SK’s could have been outed by Day 2. Extremely unlikely, but it would have been possible.
No, our investigations only kept turning up group scum: Bujaber, Gamma or dead town: RR, Thor until we hit the jackpot with Tails.

If FL is telling the truth here, then this is Karma for YGM, I guess.
I meant that if Alonzo was lynched Day 1, if you’re town, then you could have targeted Tails or Amzela and me the other, and both SK’s are outed.

That’s EXTREMELY unlikely, but still. I’m just saying it was possible.
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Post Post #4479 (isolation #281) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:07 am

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I’m just paranoid. Am I supposed to just think it’s Amzela without thinking it over?

Fortian was the easiest mislynch I feel, so i also find that kill weird, and that’s why i have more paranoia from your slot.

However, I have a weird feeling that it might just be Occam’s Razor Amzela wasn’t caught up
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Post Post #4480 (isolation #282) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:10 am

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It’s not that I’m not believing you, it’s that I think you’re solid players and can pull off a gambit like that.

Gamma Emerald says that I have a tendency to second guess myself and go tinfoil theories.

I think we might have even said it this game...

Irrelevant, but yeah.
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Post Post #4482 (isolation #283) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 4481, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4479, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m just paranoid. Am I supposed to just think it’s Amzela without thinking it over?

Fortian was the easiest mislynch I feel, so i also find that kill weird, and that’s why i have more paranoia from your slot.

However, I have a weird feeling that it might just be Occam’s Razor Amzela wasn’t caught up
Do you really think there is any world where scum!us ever kill the slot, who has us as their #1 townread?

Who do you think would be better for scum!us to have with us in LYLO, the slot that is 100% townreading us or someone who almost voted us instead of Tails on D6?
WIFOM! Ughh...I’m going to lose this game for town. Ughhhh.
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Post Post #4484 (isolation #284) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:14 am

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I have a hard weakness for this stuff.

I think I’m going to vote Amz.
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Post Post #4486 (isolation #286) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:16 am

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In post 3404, Amzela wrote:
In post 3199, hebichan wrote:Does it?

Just because I'm voting on someone doesn't mean I care if I get lynched. I'm a VT in a role madness game again.

I just want to get my scumreads out before I die.
VOTE: hebichan

Get off my fucking role, scum.
I’m going to do it for my love.

Hebi, if this is the wrong path, at least we go down together.
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Post Post #4487 (isolation #287) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:17 am

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You’re totally just sitting here waiting for me to vote. I can feel it.
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Post Post #4488 (isolation #288) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:19 am

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In post 4483, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4480, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s not that I’m not believing you, it’s that I think you’re solid players and can pull off a gambit like that.

Gamma Emerald says that I have a tendency to second guess myself and go tinfoil theories.

I think we might have even said it this game...

Irrelevant, but yeah.
If we’re scum, we never ever kill Fortian here. Because scum!us, Fortian, 100% lynch the other player in this scenario, ensuring us victory.

Tell me I’m wrong here.
Yeah, you could even fake a guilty on Fortian to go there.
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Post Post #4489 (isolation #289) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:19 am

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I feel like I’m being scolded hard in the dead thread right now.
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Post Post #4490 (isolation #290) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:20 am

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VOTE: Amzela

Good game.
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Post Post #4493 (isolation #291) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:28 am

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VOTE: Unvote

Who’s the slot that almost voted you instead of Tails? If that’s referring to me, that’s a misrep. I was always going to go Tails, I was just figuring things out.

Tails was obviously SK before you even claimed, which is the biggest reason for my paranoia.

PEdit:

You’re conf town now. I’m at ease.

VOTE: Amzela
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Post Post #4494 (isolation #292) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:30 am

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I got ninja’d the second time.

My pedit was before I saw the second vote.

So i have no clue again.
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Post Post #4499 (isolation #293) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:36 am

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VOTE: DrewVa

But Amzela was already hammered, but yeah...
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Post Post #4508 (isolation #294) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:54 am

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In post 4507, profii wrote::@ I copped you n1 because I knew you were scum FL :@

Well done though
I called that out immediately in the scum thread.
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Post Post #4517 (isolation #295) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 4511, Cerberus v666 wrote:FL: You're also bad, you should have never voted there, and it took epic game throwing on Dva's part for that singular mistake to not cost you the game. Unless you just know Dva is terrible at mafia/impatient and incompetent in LYLO in particular.
I was baiting it.

Once you see the mafia private thread, like...I had literally every single facet of this game planned out for a bit and went through every single option before coming into the game expecting a DrewVa/Amzela/FL triangle.
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Post Post #4519 (isolation #296) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:58 am

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In post 4513, Varsoon wrote:I think everyone just rushed too much and took huge gambles in LYLO here, excluding AMZ, who wasn't as present as the other two. :/
I very much was going for this.
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Post Post #4522 (isolation #297) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:00 am

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In post 4520, DrewVa wrote:Sorry guys, FL had us convinced he was dumb town. :facepalm:
As soon as that came up, I was like...oh fuck, this is my chance!! I’m going all in!
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Post Post #4525 (isolation #298) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:01 am

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In post 4523, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4520, DrewVa wrote:Sorry guys, FL had us convinced he was dumb town. :facepalm:
You're still terrible and should feel terrible.

You don't finish a lylo in under 24 hours.

How fucking incompetent do you have to be to just rush the lynch that decides the result of the effort EVERYONE ELSE has put in as well? It's disrespectful at best.
That’s my superpower. I can get anyone to act irrationally.
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Post Post #4529 (isolation #299) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:02 am

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Nancy, you were so freakin’ town, it hurt my soul.
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Post Post #4531 (isolation #300) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:03 am

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In post 3, Flavor Leaf wrote:Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

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First post in the game.

also, pre-game, I messaged Almost telling him adamantly that I would be winning this game.
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Post Post #4533 (isolation #301) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:03 am

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In post 4530, BuJaber wrote:Thanks for modding A50. Fun and crazy.

I think I prefer games with more opportunity to game-solve. This felt a bit more like dodging bullets and getting cop results. Definitely overkill as promised so I guess that was the point.

Thanks for the invite to both overkills. Looking forward to more games modded by you.
Sorry about my hard guilty on you, but had to do it.
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Post Post #4535 (isolation #302) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:04 am

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All I knew was I had to take Wisdom out.

I shot at him twice in a row to make sure he was gone. That guy scares me.
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Post Post #4537 (isolation #303) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:05 am

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In post 4534, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4517, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4511, Cerberus v666 wrote:FL: You're also bad, you should have never voted there, and it took epic game throwing on Dva's part for that singular mistake to not cost you the game. Unless you just know Dva is terrible at mafia/impatient and incompetent in LYLO in particular.
I was baiting it.

Once you see the mafia private thread, like...I had literally every single facet of this game planned out for a bit and went through every single option before coming into the game expecting a DrewVa/Amzela/FL triangle.
Doesn't actually answer my question.

Did you just know that Dva/Nancy are bad at mafia and prone to throwing in LYLO without thinking things through?

If so, good job.

If not, you also fucked up.
I mean, that’s how I play in general, so I wouldn’t say bad, but I got them to act how I wanted them too. I’d have done the same to you.
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Post Post #4539 (isolation #304) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:07 am

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In post 4536, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4529, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nancy, you were so freakin’ town, it hurt my soul.
You were really good. Next time I play with you and you can’t tell immediately I’m town, I’m powerlynching you. :]
Try. :) it’s been about a year since someone’s lynched me as scum. Team Mafia.
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #305) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:09 am

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Great game everyone. I had a lot of fun. Great modding. Great style, very unique game. All for it.

I actually hard disagree that this game was more about dodging bullets, while in a sense that is true, it’s up to you as a player to play in a way and play up to people to make that not happen.

I KNEW I wasn’t getting shot the majority of the time, and when I did lose my BP, I knew. freakin’ Mala and that Elite Body Guard shot.

Also, I definitely don’t know how RCEnigma lived the day they won.

I definitely shot at them.
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Post Post #4550 (isolation #306) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:15 am

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In post 4547, Cerberus v666 wrote:Alright, now that I'm done telling you how bad you are, if you still want to talk to me and ask for constructive criticism, I can tell you all the reasons why in this game in particular there was a shitload more to discuss than you bothered spending time on. ^^

pedit: ALSO RIGHT PEOPLE SOMEONE CLAIMING A SINGLE SHOT COP CAN BE FUCKING BUSSING HOLY FUCKING SHIT HOW DID NOBODY EVEN CONSIDER THAT???

ppedit: honestly, though, Varsoon, I don't think dva/nancy actually get it, since whichever one responded to me last chose to attack my play rather than defending theirs, indicating to me that they don't actually understand what they did wrong.
I don’t get lynched, though, anyways. I just update my claim. :lol:

If you’d have been there, and tried that, I’d just have gotten you lynched/killed.

I take out threats, and play scum on the personal level rather than mechanical.
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Post Post #4553 (isolation #307) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:19 am

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@Almost - get them PT’s out, haha.
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Post Post #4557 (isolation #308) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:24 am

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Losses...not sure if I’m familiar with the term.
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Post Post #4567 (isolation #309) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:31 am

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@Nancy - No one in the dead thread was actually in this game with us, and they’re looking at stuff from a different perspective.

Yes, I’m theory, waiting it out could have been better, but I didn’t let you do that.

Time and time again, I keep winning scum games like this, and people blame the person I convinced. I know how to get people to act in a way I want them to. I feel that side of playing Mafia isn’t used as much as it can be.

Mastina said something once in a dead thread along the lines of “Flavor keeps winning these games, and I don’t understand why.”

Mastina is a strong mechanical player, I very much play on a personal level rather than a mechanical, and I play into how people react in situations, I stalk, I observe the players so i can know how to get them to act accordingly.

I have NEVER been vig shot in my forum mafia lifetime when I was town. And only once when I was scum. Add that personal layer to the game, guys. It works, it really does. Haha
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Post Post #4576 (isolation #310) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:36 am

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I don’t know, man. Everything kind of went exactly how I expected it to.

I think I even told Almost a few days in advance that I was going to switch my claim.
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Post Post #4578 (isolation #311) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 4575, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbf last time I lost the game for my team at Lylo I did the opposite and over thought it. If I had voted early with my gut I would've been right so it's easy to get confirmation biased about the best approach in Lylo.

I don't see how waiting would've changed the outcome and mafia is a team game so even if it comes down to Lylo everyone contributed on the path there.

I will say I did apologise for my loss for all the good that did lol.

Pedit :o Morality is scum doubt = zero

Oh yeah...you’re Morality’s biggest nemesis.
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Post Post #4583 (isolation #312) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:38 am

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Even the other SK thought I was lock town. Like I said, I play for the players in the game, not the ones in the dead thread.

It’s why replacements wreck me.
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Post Post #4584 (isolation #313) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:39 am

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In post 4581, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4569, Varsoon wrote:Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'
Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*
Had Amzela came back, I would have lynched DrewVa.

Don’t see your point. I don’t get lynched. :shrug:
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Post Post #4586 (isolation #314) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:41 am

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In post 4582, DVa wrote:Seems like cerb is a douche

GGs FL
Thanks. This game stressed me out.
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Post Post #4597 (isolation #315) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:46 am

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In post 4591, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4584, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4581, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4569, Varsoon wrote:Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'
Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*
Had Amzela came back, I would have lynched DrewVa.

Don’t see your point. I don’t get lynched. :shrug:
FL, amzela doesn't vote there if she isn't already lynched.

Like, Drewva hammered, i pm'd her on discord saying yep, you're dead love, you lost, and she came and voted for drewva 10 seconds later. :P
Yeah, but I still don’t get lynched.
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Post Post #4600 (isolation #316) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:48 am

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Why would anyone consider it bussing?

I set myself real early, and controlled conversation specifically so that wouldn’t be brought up.
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Post Post #4601 (isolation #317) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:48 am

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From my perspective, it actually wasn’t even bussing.

I was a SK, and Bujaber was in my way.
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Post Post #4605 (isolation #318) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 4602, Creature wrote:Apparently the most active 3p LyLo player is the least likely to get lynched even if the other two were obvtown.
Creature, come on, though. You knew I was gonna pull through. ;)
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Post Post #4606 (isolation #319) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 4604, CheekyTeeky wrote:I think it's oddly romantic the way Cerb is being protective of Amzela.
Yeah, that’s why I’m not too bothered by it, but I <3 the DrewVa hydra, so I’m gettingnprotective of them.
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Post Post #4615 (isolation #320) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:55 am

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In post 4607, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4595, CheekyTeeky wrote:I once won as scum by getting Mathdino to vote/gladiate eddie cane while he was at a party IRL :lol: I respect Mathdino but I had worked out a way to get obv town eddie quickvoted. I had to push him to vote before eddie got back, there's noway I think less of Math it's just that all the dynamics in the game lead to that point. Eddie did what cerb is doing now and acknowledged everyone for my win except me.
As I said CheekyTeeky, if FL just, ya know, tells me that they knew DrewVa would play the way they did, kudos to them, well done.

:P Still doesn't make DrewVa's play good, but makes their success more impressive.

@FL: *shrug* you can't say that with certainty. 24/48 hours of back and forth with amzela and drewva actually talking to one another, instead of just talking to you(again, mistake, you only talked to one individual before making your decision), and the game could have went any way. I get that you feel like you could have won no matter what, but unless you know how drewva will act(both heads) in all circumstances, there's no way to be sure you'll win because Amzela is a complete unknown to you.

I already said I knew exactly how DrewVa would’ve reacted. That’s why I voted first. I knew a hammer was coming.

I generally know how most people will react towards me doing certain things, especially near the end game.

That’s kind of a thing I do in real life situations as well. It creates some awkward moments when i can just deep hyper analyze people subconsciously, so i feel like I know people much better than they know me.
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Post Post #4620 (isolation #321) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 4618, Toogeloo wrote:But if you roll scum, Creature, do you really play :lol:
No...he doesn’t.

I know this from experience of being on his scum team. -.-
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Post Post #4634 (isolation #322) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 24, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, it’s funny how all 5 of us on the scum team were the first ones to show up this game.
It was this, wasn’t it?
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Post Post #4636 (isolation #323) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 3, Flavor Leaf wrote:Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

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Late game I was like “Damn, this is going to come back to haunt me. And then I brought it up for Wisdom. And then I was like damn, that’s gonna come back to haunt me.

But like, I definitely would’ve done that stuff as town. I just would have ALSO done it as scum.


Boonskiies sig has Yes, I would do that as town.
FL sig has Yes, I would do that as scum. Haha.
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Post Post #4638 (isolation #324) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:18 am

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I also DEFINITELY got a Not Vanilla result on Pint, so he flipped Vanilla and I was like, wtf, so I’m glad I never talked about that.
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Post Post #4645 (isolation #325) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:23 am

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Nero got me up twice with his bus driving shenanigans.

Tails killed RR, I believe.
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Post Post #4649 (isolation #326) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:26 am

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Nero also got around my ascetic, so I’m unsure if my 1-shot of Ascetic ever got used.

Cheeky roleblocked Profii night 1, so that didn’t use it up.

Global doc also didn’t use it up, I asked.

So i think I had a 1-shot ascetic passive still up.
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Post Post #4651 (isolation #327) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:27 am

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And nah, Cerb’s just talking that way.

Had he been in the game at the time, I’d have gotten the quick lynch still.

That’s my bread and butter. Getting people to quick lynch as scum or town.
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Post Post #4652 (isolation #328) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:28 am

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In post 4650, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4636, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 3, Flavor Leaf wrote:Don’t lynch me. Thanks, bye.

I’m gonna just coast. I’m probably a SK. If not SK, I’m Mafia.

Reactions? Go.
Late game I was like “Damn, this is going to come back to haunt me. And then I brought it up for Wisdom. And then I was like damn, that’s gonna come back to haunt me.

But like, I definitely would’ve done that stuff as town. I just would have ALSO done it as scum.


Boonskiies sig has Yes, I would do that as town.
FL sig has Yes, I would do that as scum. Haha.
Tbf, I was very suspicious that you didn’t townlock us after the Fortian kill. Next time, I’ll know you’re way too good a player, to ever make that bad a mistake.
To be fair, I wasn’t lying when I said I look into tinfoil hat theories and second guess myself as town.

I have to look into those because I very much know I can pull the tinfoil hat theories off.
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Post Post #4658 (isolation #329) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:35 am

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In post 4656, Cerberus v666 wrote:I mean.

You're welcome to feel that way, but it doesn't make it true.

I'd probably be more inclined to actually care about your opinion on these things if you responded with an expression of the benefits of y our action, or if you admitted that you were wrong about how thor's role worked.

@FL: idk man, keeping people from quicklynching(and not getting lynched) are kinda my thing. *shrug*
Well, one day we shall 1v1 and we will see. I’m good at rallying people.
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Post Post #4661 (isolation #330) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:37 am

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@profii - I almost considered killing you that night, but I knew underdogs had to.
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Post Post #4665 (isolation #331) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:40 am

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I said one day, not one day soon.

I joined Almost’s game for the same reason. I generally don’t play these types of games.

We have to see the game for what it was. An over the top kill heavy Multiball game. We got exactly what was promised.

I appreciate solid Multiball games. It’s just different.
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Post Post #4669 (isolation #332) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:41 am

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Lol @profii’s PT. First post

“FL is probably town.”
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Post Post #4670 (isolation #333) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:42 am

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In post 4668, Almost50 wrote:
In post 225, Almost50 wrote:
Nominating
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Best Performance Third Party (Hannibal Lecter)
for his play in
Just saying :]

Aww. :)
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #334) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:52 am

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In post 4671, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4665, Flavor Leaf wrote:I said one day, not one day soon.

I joined Almost’s game for the same reason. I generally don’t play these types of games.

We have to see the game for what it was. An over the top kill heavy Multiball game. We got exactly what was promised.

I appreciate solid Multiball games. It’s just different.
In the end, I was pretty satisfied with the amount of murder.
I tried killing you so hard. So many times, and then the mafia team collectively went there.
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Post Post #4681 (isolation #335) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:55 am

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I said in my PT to pre-in me. But yeah, your Flavor was fire.
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Post Post #4704 (isolation #336) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:21 pm

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All good on the PT’s. Read em all.

But yeah, I act scummy as scum on purpose. Why would I act townie as scum? That’s scummy.

Also, what scum votes first in LYLO like that? That’s effectively the point of me voting first.
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Post Post #4719 (isolation #337) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:02 pm

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@Nero - you successfully affected me TWICE with your bus driver. You changed one of Alonzo’s results that I got that if I mentioned would have got me killed, haha
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Post Post #4729 (isolation #338) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:15 pm

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In post 4728, profii wrote:So Flavour leaf wasnt allowed to say to his buds dont worry im ascetic? or is the optimal play to rb me and save that 1 shot as you know ill cop fl every time :D
I could have said whatever I wanted to them.

I was still Third Party, and still had to actively be wary of my teammates, but if I won, Mafia still won. The reverse wasn’t true.

@Almost - Did I still have my 1-shot Ascetic end game then?
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Post Post #4732 (isolation #339) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 4731, profii wrote:Mafia assigns FL to kill profii. (Fail - FL is already targeting someone else with a kill)

lol!!!
I didn’t want you dead. I think I told Almost that.

You were necessary to keep alive for a bit.
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Post Post #4738 (isolation #340) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:23 pm

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In post 4735, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4732, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4731, profii wrote:Mafia assigns FL to kill profii. (Fail - FL is already targeting someone else with a kill)

lol!!!
I didn’t want you dead. I think I told Almost that.

You were necessary to keep alive for a bit.
Why did you kill Fortian over us, the SK hunters?
Fortian/Amzela/Me triangle I can’t lynch Amzela for the win. Fortian just shoots me.

I was told Town doesn’t have to live to win. None of the wincons stated it. Whereas I did.
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Post Post #4739 (isolation #341) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:24 pm

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Also, there was zero reasoning behind investigating me that I couldn’t turn around on you, so it didn’t matter if I got guiltied. Plus, I might’ve had an ascetic leftover.
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Post Post #4740 (isolation #342) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:26 pm

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I had like 4 pages in the mafia pt of just me talking after Bujaber died.
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Post Post #4751 (isolation #343) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:33 pm

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Eh, I’ve claimed plenty of stuff like that as town.

I had the game of 6 claims once. That was pretty cool. I eventually got conf town’d, though.
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Post Post #4752 (isolation #344) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:34 pm

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In post 4750, Nero Cain wrote:like, let's switch subjects and talk about how I had a good chunk of scum pegged and I mostly redeemed a slot that was about to get lynched.
And you caused the eventual winner a lot of grief from your 2 night actions.
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Post Post #4754 (isolation #345) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:34 pm

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Both Mala and I targeted RCE night 2, and Nero bus drivers us both over to Tails...-.-

Same out come happened, but that’s just solid trolling.
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Post Post #4776 (isolation #346) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:30 pm

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In post 4774, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4661, Flavor Leaf wrote:@profii - I almost considered killing you that night, but I knew underdogs had to.
Btw, that was one main reason you won. Wisdom certainly did NOT "need to" shoot profii. He was a GF, you know ;)
He still had to. Profii would get Inno’s on other people potentially POE’ing him there.
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Post Post #4788 (isolation #347) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:16 pm

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In post 4780, Wisdom wrote:multiball sucks

i bussed all my buddies only to eat a bullet
Moral of the story:

Don’t intimidate Flavor. He’ll feed you not one, but two bullets.
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Post Post #4794 (isolation #348) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:46 pm

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I didn’t have a kill go through until Wisdom. Hilarious.
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #349) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:48 pm

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Haha, thanks, Amzela. I think...

I thought you played well, and were pretty townie. I just had to lynch someone.

Also, I too stressed on this game, don’t you worry. You can see me in the last few pages of the mafia thread. Almost had to check up on me at the beginning of the final day. Twilight for the day we lynched Tails, I was spamming that thread so hard.
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Post Post #4804 (isolation #350) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:03 pm

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In post 4803, Krazy wrote:The lesson to take away from all this is that you should always lynch the Boon, even if the mod says he's the same alignment as you

And isn't that a lesson we can all take to heart?
Yeah, I have to take a break from Mafia after this game, I feel.

Although considering I played A LOT of games though year, being lynched once ain’t too shabby! Might be time to bust out one of my secret alts. Add that little WIFOM dirty to the back of everyone’s head.
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Post Post #4824 (isolation #351) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:47 am

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In post 4822, DrewVa wrote:I just wanted to add that Cerb’s criticism of my play is unwarranted because A50, told me that the player(s) whoo received Alonzo’s results were pre-determined and he never responded to my question about whether they were town or not, so I assumed they were.

I mainly tr FL BECAUSE it was blatantly obvious that he was telling the truth about Alonzo’s results. Had it not been for that, no way in hell, would FL have ever fooled me here.
That’s why I claimed it. :)
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Post Post #4833 (isolation #352) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:58 am

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In post 4830, Clemency wrote:oh this game ended
who won
Me. :)
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