Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[Bambi Jay]

Anyone got an idea for an interesting and unique pagetop?

[LolWagons]

I’d suggest we get setup-related issues out of the way first. I’m not super familiar with this setup.

I feel like if we are similarly suspicious of a pair and a single VT, we should lynch the VT claim... if they’re town we have a flip, and have 3 scum 5 town instead of two flips and 3 scum 4 town. That extra town player provides a crucial buffer to the ratio in what’s essentially lylo and I think it outweighs the benefit of two flips who were linked anyway. Thoughts?

[Michael Scott]

@Lolwagons: I'm not sure if we're allowed to discuss these right now, can we?

[LolWagons]

Oh idk. My bad if we weren’t supposed to but I don’t see anything in the rules about it.

[Michael Scott]

Neither do I. I asked the mod about it, once he approves I'll go ahead and detail my strat. 66% winning chances makes it pretty good to follow I think, considering we can afford only one ML this game

[LolWagons]

Ah. Well hopefully it’s not a huge deal.

[Michael Scott]

Meh, I think it's okay. Lolwagons -- are you online?

[yessiree]

Everyone has confirmed. Day 1 starts. Deadline in 10 days.

I only have access to a phone so vc will be limited

[Michael Scott]

Guys. Speed massclaim.
Hard claiming Town Lover pair with McQueen.

We'll have two true VT claims and a fake one. We just pick two to lynch, 66% win.

[LolWagons]

VT.

[Michael Scott]

Also lolwagons; if possible can you link to a scumgame or two of yours?

[Bambi Jay]

Guys. Speed massclaim.
Hard claiming Town Lover pair with McQueen.

We'll have two true VT claims and a fake one. We just pick two to lynch, 66% win.

Not even waiting for McQueen to appear? Wow, so cold.

[Michael Scott]

It doesn't matter. Make your claim

[LolWagons]

Also lolwagons; if possible can you link to a scumgame or two of yours?

I don’t have any on this account. I replaced into and out of one for a day phase or two but that’s it. It’s two-three years old.

My main is slaxx but any on there would be 5 or more years old I think.

I just got back into mafia recently.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah Michael's trying to hard to control this game so imma ignore him for now. Probably scum, but I'll see what else we got.

[Michael Scott]

I'm not controlling, I'm laying out the best strategy town has.
I think Lolwagons gets it.

[muh316]

So does this game only last two days?

[LolWagons]

Yeah Michael's trying to hard to control this game so imma ignore him for now. Probably scum, but I'll see what else we got.

Why the reluctance to claim? Mass claim is ideal.

Scum can’t choose who they want to be in which group after the fact, they’re forced to commit up front.

[Michael Scott]

So does this game only last two days?

Yep! Also, claim pl0x

[LolWagons]

So does this game only last two days?

1 if we are lucky.
But yeah max 2.

[Michael Scott]

Why the reluctance to claim? Mass claim is ideal.

Scum can’t choose who they want to be in which group after the fact, they’re forced to commit up front.

Good scum definitely won't all claim VTs, they're gonna divide into one lover pair and one VT.

So one fake VT, all we need to do is scumhunt there.

[LolWagons]

Why the reluctance to claim? Mass claim is ideal.

Scum can’t choose who they want to be in which group after the fact, they’re forced to commit up front.

Good scum definitely won't all claim VTs, they're gonna divide into one lover pair and one VT.

So one fake VT, all we need to do is scumhunt there.

That’s what I’m saying.

If they know the plan is to lynch from VTs they’ll put their towniest person in the VT pile if we don’t make them commit up front. I think we are on the and page, just saying it differently.

[LolWagons]

Same page*

I scumhunt mostly from my phone. So... sorry for typos.

[Michael Scott]

Oh, that's cool
That's also why I want the speedclaim as speedy as possible, before anyone has impressions of someone being "towny" or not.

[LolWagons]

I’ll go ahead and VOTE: Bambi for claim reluctance and throw an early townread on muh for asking how many days max the game goes. Pretty sure mafia would know how many mislynches they need and thus how many days it can go.