Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[mcqueen]

Yeah, I'm a lover with Michael Scott.

and hey muh, we just played together in Newbie 1901 (I'm 2ndStoryWindow)

Otherwise, don't think I know the rest of you. Good luck everyone

Also, I don't like Bambi Jay not claiming her lover partner. "You should know by now;" well after the first read-through and a skim after that, I'm still not entirely sure. Definitely concerning she can't just say it, but since I think she's the only other person to claim a lover pair right now besides Scott & I, we'll have to wait and see how she plays before placing a hard read on her

[Egix96]

And if anyone else here is going to claim town lover, you should immediately list who your partner is at the time that you claim.

- Date Mike

I hardclaim town lovers with Bambi Jay.

[Clemency]

do i gotta
i was hoping to like, play the game

[Clemency]

town lovers with uh, whats his face

[Clemency]

muh316
thats the one

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: 0verki11

[Michael Scott]

0verki11, who are you lovers with?

[yessiree]

This is a vc

[LolWagons]

FoS: Bambi Jay

Lolwagons, what she's doing isn't out of her townrange. I don't wanna vote her if she's part of a Lover Pair, fortunately we can afford one slot not claiming.

Is it an alt or something?

[LolWagons]

#68 and #69 from Dong feel a bit forced, particularly after we townread muh for something similar.

[LolWagons]

Oh thank God Clem is a lover I can’t read him alone.

[Michael Scott]

Lolwagons, you sure you wanna vote Bambi, now that he's a claimed lover? I think we should start with 0verki11.
Then the dong dude. My current solve is {Clem, Muh, 0ver} right now.

[Michael Scott]

Is it an alt or something?

Yeah, Elsa Jay.

[Donempire]

#68 and #69 from Dong feel a bit forced, particularly after we townread muh for something similar.

Ok

So this isnt the type of game im familiar with, so time for some wagoning to express victory. Hope you guys know what youre doing

VOTE: overki11

[LolWagons]

Lolwagons, you sure you wanna vote Bambi, now that he's a claimed lover? I think we should start with 0verki11.
Then the dong dude. My current solve is {Clem, Muh, 0ver} right now.

I think you’re town but I think you’re wrong. Let’s do VOTE: dongempire first.

[LolWagons]

I didn’t like #88 either

Looks like someone trying to discount their responsibility on what they know is a mislynch.

[Bambi Jay]

And if anyone else here is going to claim town lover, you should immediately list who your partner is at the time that you claim.

- Date Mike

I hardclaim town lovers with Bambi Jay.

0verki11, who are you lovers with?

town lovers with uh, whats his face

muh316
thats the one

Yeah, I'm a lover with Michael Scott.

This is Fricken why I didnt feel like having everyone claim immediately. 3 lover pairs. Sigh.

Egix96 - Bambi Jay
Michael Scott - McQueen
Clemency - muh316

[Michael Scott]

This is Fricken why I didnt feel like having everyone claim immediately. 3 lover pairs. Sigh.

That's expected, unless scum's stupid -- even if the claims came at a later point, we'd have 3 lover pairs and 3 VTs overall.

[Bambi Jay]

And I wanted to see nobody claim lover immediately so we can see multiple associations and not just let scum get away with an easy partner.

If we DIDN'T claim, we could have saw people working together that weren't lovers and find a trio instead of a duo.

[Michael Scott]

(3/9) + (6/9)*(3/8) = 1/3 + 1/4 = 7/12 =

58% EV

if we lynch without the massclaim.

We'd have a lot of associations because of the multiple lover pairs, we'd also have scum distancing, so it's much harder than you imagine. Speed-massclaiming isn't something scum would anticipate and participate in directly, making the ones who did it later likelier to be scum since they'd have to plan their distribution of lovers and vanilla.

Besides, associations you can draw are much more solid now, wait and you'll find out what I'm talking about.

[Bambi Jay]

But how can scum not anticipate it if you literally come in swinging as scum and make it your goal?

I either dont trust you and McQueen or Clem and meh. You seem too try hard this game.

[Michael Scott]

But how can scum not anticipate it if you literally come in swinging as scum and make it your goal?

Sorta circular reasoning here; obviously if *I* am scum there's no question of whether scum anticipates it or not.
If I was scum I'd prolly not propose the massclaim in the first place cos that actively harms scum *shrug* but there's no point saying that cos of the WIFOM it generates.

I'm not tryharding, running the math on a strategy is a really simple thing

[Bambi Jay]

It's also the boring way. You should know by now I like to lynch the guy who tries to use "logic" the most. Scum can use logic too.

[Egix96]

I think Michael has some good points here tbh

[Clemency]

this game is big dumb doodoo