Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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I'm not raging, Dong, I've argued it's the theory-optimal move at the moment.In post 200, Donempire wrote:I understand your enthusiasm but i couldnt give 2 shits about this game, so stop raging and get yourself together
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Egix96 he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Yeah, I think it is; the way I see it, my preferred lynch was 0verki11, and Bambi's already really anti-logic and what not. Scum!Clemency capitalized on this instantly, hoping to ML me. Notice how he voted Dong as well, thoughIn post 207, LolWagons wrote:Michael you think it’s a coincidence your wagon started after I started pushing dong?
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Now, to both Bambi and Elsa, the optimal votes for them are to crossvote, so there's no chance of a VT kill.In post 207, LolWagons wrote:Michael you think it’s a coincidence your wagon started after I started pushing dong?
I don’t.
This instantly means you don't care about sorting Dong/0verki11, they both become irrelevant once I'm dead.
The lack of posts from 0verki11 make it hard to association-lock Bambi|Clem. On a whole, VTs are therefore now irrelevant.
Agree? Time's better spent on purely analysing Egix/Bambi and Clem/0verki11.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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This is concerning and made me suddenly step back on Clem being lockscum~In post 203, Egix96 wrote:I've seen enough.
VOTE: Michael Scott
If you're not scum, of course I'll vote Clem next.
Egix, what's your case on me?-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Both other lover pairs fully voted for me and 0verki11 isn't here.In post 206, Donempire wrote:Hammerer gets instalynched if he doesnt wait for michaels last words at least
If there's a hammer, it has to be me, or one of you and Lolwagons.
Lolwagons townreads me, so I don't think he'll hammer.
I don't think you'd quickhammer either, let's you, me and Lolwagons sort out who's more probable from Bambi|Clem first.-
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Nope. Optimal play is still to lynch the VT. If we sort wrong I want that extra Townie in lylo.In post 211, Michael Scott wrote:
Now, to both Bambi and Elsa, the optimal votes for them are to crossvote, so there's no chance of a VT kill.In post 207, LolWagons wrote:Michael you think it’s a coincidence your wagon started after I started pushing dong?
I don’t.
This instantly means you don't care about sorting Dong/0verki11, they both become irrelevant once I'm dead.
The lack of posts from 0verki11 make it hard to association-lock Bambi|Clem. On a whole, VTs are therefore now irrelevant.
Agree? Time's better spent on purely analysing Egix/Bambi and Clem/0verki11.-
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Optimal play is to lynch the VT, however we have one town lover pair already voting for me -- so optimal play for us changes based on this.In post 214, LolWagons wrote:Nope. Optimal play is still to lynch the VT. If we sort wrong I want that extra Townie in lylo.
If we get a mislynch today, I'd be quicklynched tomorrow by that derp town lover pair.
Lynching VTs is optimal but also subject to all town agreeing to it, which isn't the case here.-
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We've gone past the point of lynching a VT at this point, Lol. 2 lover sets are deadset on Michael and by extension McQueen's head. I have no intention of letting Michael squeeze out of this with you being his 3rd scum partner still being possible, so unless you get the VT to vote themselves, I dont think a VT lynch is possible.-
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Bud, you're tied to me and McQueen here.In post 216, LolWagons wrote:I don’t compromise on lynches. Egix knows that well.
We lynch out of VT claims.
Say we lynch Dong today, and he flips green.
Come tomorrow, Clemency is going to allege that you and I and McQueen are scum, and bandwagon onto you/me.
Bambi|Egix also join in because reasons, and I become the mislynch, thus letting scum win.-
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Dong isn’t going to flip town lolIn post 219, Michael Scott wrote:
Bud, you're tied to me and McQueen here.In post 216, LolWagons wrote:I don’t compromise on lynches. Egix knows that well.
We lynch out of VT claims.
Say we lynch Dong today, and he flips green.
Come tomorrow, Clemency is going to allege that you and I and McQueen are scum, and bandwagon onto you/me.
Bambi|Egix also join in because reasons, and I become the mislynch, thus letting scum win.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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There's no convincing, Bambi's play is full on derp and she isn't going to change that. As long as two townlover pairs are convinced that you're scum with me, there's no way we're not ML'd in D2, Lolwagons.In post 217, LolWagons wrote:Then it’s my job to convince them to play optimally through convincing rhetoric and save compromise for only near deadline, not throw in the towel now.
Next game I'll PL Bambi Jay if she goes "Logic therefore scum" to perfectly good town strats in an open game.-
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