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Post Post #4467 (isolation #800) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:16 pm

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VOTE: Shshin
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Post Post #4469 (isolation #801) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 4468, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4463, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4451, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4449, the worst wrote:I can't take the risk of Shoshin's personality losing the game for us.
I'm not very good at dealing with abject stupidity. Sorry. Teach me your ways of charm.
If f you’re referring to me, give me one good fucking reason why I shouldn’t report you for this?
I was talking about my personality, not you.
You called me stupid.
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Post Post #4470 (isolation #802) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:18 pm

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In post 4469, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4468, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4463, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4451, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4449, the worst wrote:I can't take the risk of Shoshin's personality losing the game for us.
I'm not very good at dealing with abject stupidity. Sorry. Teach me your ways of charm.
If f you’re referring to me, give me one good fucking reason why I shouldn’t report you for this?
I was talking about my personality, not you.
You called me stupid.
No one fucking gets away with that!
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
~Taly
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Post Post #4472 (isolation #803) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:25 pm

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In post 4471, Shoshin wrote:lol okay Nancy... I think some of the things you've said and thought in this game have tested new depths of stupidity, but I didn't actually say you yourself are stupid. Your play, yes. You yourself? I don't know. You could probably learn to read better, but I don't know you as a person outside this game.
No, that is 100% true maybe for you though. Your non-apology does not impress me.
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~the worst
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Post Post #4476 (isolation #804) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:29 pm

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VOTE: Shoshin

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Post Post #4479 (isolation #805) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:30 pm

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In post 4475, Shoshin wrote:lol okay the worst...

It accomplishes allowing me to let off some anger instead of bottling it up... which is fairly important to my mental health... but I agree it's probably counterproductive to the game...
Yah think Einstein?
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~the worst
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Post Post #4480 (isolation #806) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 4477, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4476, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:VOTE: Shoshin

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Forgive Nancy, she's a bit slow to figure out what a gladiator does...
Forgive you for being a blight on the ecosystem. Okay.
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~the worst
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Post Post #4483 (isolation #807) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:36 pm

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In post 4478, the worst wrote:There are ways to work through this without insulting people willy nilly :(
I’m sorry. I didn’t sign up to be abused. No game us worth being insulted by vicious people who lack a conscience. You by making her feel safe has given her carte blanche to reveal how vile, despicable and hateful she is truly capable of being. If we lose the game on 100% on her head - assuming she’s even town here, which I sincerely doubt.
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~the worst
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Post Post #4484 (isolation #808) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 4481, Shoshin wrote:I apologize for insulting Nancy.
IDGAF anymore. I’m fucking done with this.
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~the worst
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Post Post #4492 (isolation #809) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:21 pm

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I think you’re both town and this vote is a joke. Sorry @the worst but there’s only one person I want to vote for rn.
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Post Post #4499 (isolation #810) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:42 pm

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In post 4494, the worst wrote:I'm about 70% with you Nancy. please just help me cure my paranoia here. :( if I'm right Wisdom+Rando is the team we lose by doing nothing today.
How does it help us to mislynch?

Remember, Wisdom initially thought that the protective action failed, then he looked up macho modifier and found out itherwise.

Why did Shoshin do everything she could to delay Chick lynch? Why did she accuse almost everyone in the game of being scum to stop it?

Do you really think CS’s “paranoia” about her role was thoroughly unjustified?

What is Wisdom’s motive for targeting Reality/Wheme?

Why would he try to bus Chic/lynch Shoshin simultaneously?

You yourself called her “survivalit” and her anger at CS is way overblown if she’s tiwn and do you really believe she seriously thought I was in any danger of being NKed after my cringeworthy D5 performance, after Reality had judt flipped even night vig?

Do you teally buy her protecting me over Wheme?

If I’m scum in this game, I take out my biggest threat, which sure as hell a broken jailkeep who mistakenly mislynches one villa and seeks to correct that by voting for another. Who in their right mind could possibly think I’m scum’s #1 target after that - maybe if/when there’s only 3 people left in the game but not now.

Look, I know you’re locktown now that you’ve proved your role. If Wisdom comes to his senses are realizes that can you ungladiate?
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Post Post #4504 (isolation #811) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:52 pm

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In post 358, Taly wrote:THIS.
IS.
TALY.

POSTING.

And yeah, I'm losing care for my hydra slips because I haven't heard from
Varsoon
about the game in 5 days, and it's pending on whether or not I'm doing this solo.

I mean, this is my last "slip" before the hypothetical reality I replace IN on my main
(which is Taly)


But I'm proving a point on how fruitless
tgkfap's
mentality and response to me is, and I'm about to drop my push because nobody seems to give a fuck and I'm wasting my time on 1 person.
In post 1521, Taly wrote:
In post 1253, Randomnamechange wrote:rn ppls picks for scum are creature, shoshin, tpf, me. aa9 and RC.
thoughts on those slots?
Creature:
Playing very strongly to what I know to be scum of him. The fact that he hasn't even tried to gamesolve or interact with the suspicion on him consistently throughout this game makes me very strongly to believe this is scum.

Shoshin:
They're posting a lot of content that I don't believe would be fabricated, but I'm going to read them more in depth and engage before I make a solid assessment. Walls take me a bit to process X3

TpF:
I threw up in my mouth looking at their ISO.

Aa9:
Don't quite see the argument here? I probably skimmed over it, I haven't seen them post in a few pages, so I'll into that.

Reality:
Generally a bit difficult to follow. Some of their posts leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Also, what are your picks for people who are scum and town given the gamestate?

I also feel weird that
TBG
was the one of the longest-standing voters of
Renais
-slot D1 and he was NKed. So I think it's very likely that scum NKed him off the basis of an accurate read.
In post 1256, Reality Check wrote:sucks that he probably replaced into a scum slot but I'm still glad he's here
Eghh....? What's the purpose of this post? Do you have any impression on
GIF
himself?
In post 1263, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1262, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 1259, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1253, Randomnamechange wrote:rn ppls picks for scum are creature, shoshin, tpf, me. aa9 and RC.
thoughts on those slots?
I think TPF, Creature and Angel are scum. Possibly Rennais as the fourth? There were some weird interactions between them. Rennais said that “Angel is town like me”, I believe. It will be interesting to see if GIF sheeps them on Nico vote. Rennais also had Creature crossed out on her readslist.
agree with this. i would throw shoshin and wheme in the pool as well.
Why Wheme? - my main issue with him has been his weird pushes on Joral but he voted Creature and I liked his read on Nico. Obviously based on wagonomics, I can’t write him off either. We obviously have to agree to disagree on Shoshin. I don’t see how scum!Shoshin hardtown reads Nico. I can’t see Sho being w/w with Angel, soley based on that.
I never found why
Wheme's
push on
Joral
was off, I got the idea that he was pushing very strongly for a read he wasn't sure of, which I don't think comes from scum often - and in my experience with
Wheme
.
In post 1278, Randomnamechange wrote:R.E. the case.
i will consider the case to be a milkstool. it has three legs. my read on creature, psych eval, and peripheral reads.
to begin with the main point. i know how shit creature is as playing as scum. why do i go to these lengths to avoid his lynch? as RC said, people are more likely to try and get credit off of a creature lynch than bother defending him. this point just doesn't work as an indicator of me.
on another note, i reacted the exact same way to nico's play in spring fever where they were scum and shouted me down over me pushing them for inactivity. nico is prolly town but i was not going to let them get away with lurking to victory again.
thirdly, at EoD yesterday i had a scumread n tpf and ambivalence towards creature. i thought a tpf wagon had more support than it did. calling me out for not voting someone i wasnt scumreading is kinda ridiculous.
also my flip on renais was bc someone cased them and i agreed with the case.
first my continuation of my nico scumread despite contrary evidence was scummy
now me changing my mind when alternate info was presented in scummy.
shoshin is trying to find anything they can to paint me as scum regardless of its accuracy or cognitive dissonance. more later.
If you're defending
Creature
because nobody else is, then can you give me a valid case to why he's town here?
In post 1282, Scioness Sajj wrote:i'm not sure if Taly is aware we share a pt
wait, wtf? ...going to check if i got any notifications?
In post 1295, WhemeStar wrote:IM SO LOSTTT

AT LEAST IM CONF TOWN
:/ I sympathize with this a lot
In post 1302, the worst wrote:that's kinda how I feel with Shoshin she's scummy and anti town as shit and it's got me to the point of like....... is this rly scum? WIFOM
How do yuo feel about their case on
Random-Creature
?
In post 1379, Reality Check wrote: TGPKAP is the most likely town of the four
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In post 1523, Taly wrote:
In post 1504, Creature wrote:Anything not me-related?
Yeah. Look at the other wagons.

Also, I don't think anyone's brought up the
TBG
NK much, thoughts there?
In post 1603, Taly wrote:
Wheme
can tyou explain
Random/Shoshin
scum-scum?

VOTE: Creature
I'm still very strong with the
Creature
lynch. The fact that there was no lynch able to be made D1 and the high level of scumreads being casted on a good portion of the playerlist outside of
Creature
makes me feel this is the best option.

I also think this would provide a lot of reference and insight behind the
Nico/Renais
wagons, the
TBG
NK, and help absolve suspicion.

resolve a good bit of my uncertainty on
Reality
. I don't think scum would necessarily state the reasons for why an investigation on them would be unnecessary, and their post rings to me as genuine.

I think scum is extremely likely to be within
Tgkfap/Renais
, but I can't get past the fact that this isn't
Creature
-town, nothing this game so far has told me otherwise.

Furthermore, the more pages that go by, I'm becoming happy with
the worst
and
Nancy
being solid town.

Starting to not the trust the votes that were on
Nico
. I haven't seen
Angel
post much at all these past few pages so I'm concerned.
In post 1604, Taly wrote:
Shoshin
leans town based on vote history alone. She's actively pushed non-popular wagons and has solely been focused on improving their perception in the game using them.

And tomorrow or Tuesday ((when I have more time then)), I'll do an ISO-group of
Random/Angel/Shoshin
to sort them out

There's a lot of content without clarity, so time to make use of it :D
In post 1605, Taly wrote:
In post 1568, Commander Shepard wrote:63 pages...Anyone got a TLDR?
We pissed away D1 without a lynch :/
TBG
was NKed, and he was on the
Renais
who I can see is likely scum.

TGKFAP
thought I was fucking
Varsoon
posting
despite me intentionally hydra-slipping
, even though I replaced in on my main because he never posted in thread.

Nobody's rebutted the
Creature
-scum meta case, and even without meta,
Creature
is very likely scum.

Angel
pushed
Nico
, who I'm feeling is more likely town in hindsight.

Wheme
thinks
Random V Shoshin
is scumVscum.

I'm actively battling apathy by posting because I didn't expect to go "full-weight" in this game hence my partner flaked on me D:

Reads? Questions?
How do you feel about the NK and the multitude of wagons D1?
In post 1610, Taly wrote:I don't think
Random
solely caused a no lynch

But after skimming, I definitely want to hear why
Renais
was a much better wagon and push than
Creature
. There were multiple D1 posts from him where he debated the possibility of
Creatue
scum but never did anything to generate a conclusion.

So if
Creature's
scum,
Random
and
Angel
are looking a lot less towny in my eyes. If
Creature's
town, I still want to see why
Angel
went for
Nico
and why
Random
seems blatantly inconsistent.
Shoshin wrote:
In post 1603, Taly wrote:1593 and 1594 resolve a good bit of my uncertainty on Reality. I don't think scum would necessarily state the reasons for why an investigation on them would be unnecessary, and their post rings to me as genuine.
I don't follow... If Reality's scum, wouldn't they want to avoid an investigation?
I think it's more likely scum would not oppose an investigation on themselves, if it meant they wouldn't be suspected or other people would become a better option.

Why would town want to be investigated if they can defend themselves and state why they're town? Hence their confidence because they're correct?

I just find town-motivation in that post of
Reality
more as,
"don't waste an investigation on me, and here's better alternatives"
- she wasn't avoiding the idea of investigating her, nor was she deflecting from the conversation by not adding a reason.

So I think that's more towny.
randomidget wrote:
In post 1606, Shoshin wrote:Taly, do you agree or disagree with me that Random played a major role in causing a no lynch by softly defending Creature throughout D1?
nice leading question

also that taly summary is dire its mostly correct but does not include any of the most important points
Instead of saying things "are dire" without any concrete reason, how about you INCLUDE the most important points yourself and actually expand on the conversation?

My POV of this game is very blurry and I'm actively resolving that.
In post 1621, Taly wrote:
@Random


A)
You didn't answer my question. You NEVER voted
Creature
, but you still weren't sure about him being scum or town and you didn't really engage much with the wagon who have consistently believed he's playing to his scum-meta. Why was
Renais
a better vote/wagon and/or more likely scum?

B)
Why would scum vote
Creature
? And why was
Creature
worthy of your defense? I still don't feel like I've gotten a clear answer over this.

C)
I just stated I thought
Reality
was coming more from a town perspective with her approach to that topic, and I still believe that. Do you see scum-motivation there? Why?

D)
Yeah... you could've said that to expand on my 'summary' instead of casting suspicion on it. :igmeou: Plus, what were YOUR thoughts on those events you just listed?
In post 1624, Taly wrote:
In post 1622, Randomnamechange wrote:and you are ignoring teh fact that i didnt choose to wagon renais. because. i. wasnt. on. them. at. day. end.
oh right, you were bussing
tgkfap
:roll: guess that completely eliminates all relevance from these posts?
In post 677, Randomnamechange wrote:aight yo wassup g's im here now talk to me
creature could be scum but seems kinda lynchabity nowatimsayin
In post 699, Randomnamechange wrote:sounds gucci to me
VOTE: princess of renais
In post 734, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 700, joral wrote:Acutally, agreed. I have doubts on creature, but they can be solved later on.

VOTE: renais
In post 710, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Creature
one of these two votes is probably scum depending on the renais flip imo.
Please tell me A), how this is scum and B), how Wisdom and random are w/w together?

Like, you make the least conclusive read possible on
Creature
by shading him with
"this could be scum, but
renais
looks like a less mislychbaity lynch"
- even though I'd argue the exact opposite, because people have consistently stated
Renais
is scummy and now
GIF
, but nobody wants to tie the noose on
Creature


Seriously, I'm all asking is why
Renais
was more likely scum than
Creature
, and you keep tip-toeing around the fact that you made no actual conclusion on
Creature
D1.
In post 1622, Randomnamechange wrote:bc creature's scum play was abysmal. and i wasn't defending him, i was saying that he *might* be town.
Again, you don't actually state a solid read there but you're actively not going for his lynch or engaging with the wagon on him...

And what do you mean
"
creature's
scumplay is abysmal"
? Um? His play here is abysmal by his standards?

And why do yuo keep saying he "might" be town? Are you waiting for him to make this holy grail post that absolves all suspicion on him? Because that hasn't happened and we're close to this game being a month old.
In post 1622, Randomnamechange wrote:of course there is scum motivation there. in what way is trying to bully someone out of investigating you lacking scum motivation? Idc if you think there is town motivation in it, to claim there is no scum motivation is flat-out wrong.
Seeing motivation in someone's post IS SUBJECTIVE.

So go on, tell me why my perception is wrong and tell me why
Reality
is more likely to be scum for her recent posts.

And also, wtf? "Bullying"? Are you reading the thread? There is absolutely nothing that suggests this.
In post 1622, Randomnamechange wrote:the issue with the summary is it puts focus on the wrong area. it makes it seem like wheme is a townleader. it makes it seem like nico's alignment is up for debate
bearing in mind i was directly involved with 3 of them and i directly suggested a theory as to why people went underground the last question is a bit farcical
I'm asking for your damn opinion and you're ignoring that. :igmeou:

Have you read my catchup post? I haven't been engaged with the game because I lost a lot of motivation.

So yeah, please enlighten me on the importance of what you listed, and try to indirectly undermine my posts less. -_- I never said anything else was unnecessary, I gave MY perception of the game and your comments sound like you're actively looking to diminish that.
In post 1623, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1620, Taly wrote:but real talk
Chickadee
, what's your thoughts on
Renais, Tgkfap, Nico


they were people ive scumread D1 ((thinking
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Well, I'll refrain from commenting on tpfkap, because Porkens is my predecessor, and I honestly have no clue wtf he was doing. He always has a weird play style that people scum read, and I've never quite been able to get inside his head.

Gonna be honest, here's what I've done so far since getting my role pm: I took a shower, ate some lunch, ISO'd my slot, ISO'd the mod to get highlights, checked in with my neighborhood, Saw that Creature was being scum read and ISO'd him.

So that's where I'm at. I can't really give any well formed or even ill formed thoughts on the Nico and Renais slots at the moment, but I'll hit you up later.
wait wtf

did yuo repalce
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? Just saw that they haven't posted in 6 days.

And alright, I'm going to ISO dive
GIF
Tuesday as well
In post 1633, Taly wrote:
randomidget wrote:i'm not going to respond to someone completely lacking in reading comprehension skills
:igmeou: :roll:

I'm a bit tired of being written off as dumb or "lacking in comprehension skills" in literally most of my games.

I actually think I'm doing better in this game than other games in terms of not "doing nothing but surface-level" shit

But w/e, if you want to ignore all the points I brought up, and what
Shoshin
brought up herself, by all means go ahead.

Scumread created.
In post 1788, Taly wrote:just saying that im not going to post and then disappear for 2 days

about to go to class, so ill update my thoughts on thread later :D

im iffy with
Wheme
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tw
hmu fam

we are on the same page with
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Post Post #4506 (isolation #812) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:55 pm

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@the worst read my Taly wall and please tell me A) how this is scum and B) how Wisdom/random are w/w together?
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Post Post #4512 (isolation #813) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:15 pm

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In post 4503, the worst wrote:@Nancy, if there's actually 4 scum left here Shoshin is unfortunately just town. I want to lynch her on like a 50% policy basis as much as the next dude but she's never scum with a partner here.

if there's 2 scum left, they're wisdom and rando. :( probably about 30% on this possibility over solo!Shoshin

but we actually don't have to choose one possibility or the other, we can allieviate my paranoia and if I'm wrong still lynch the last scum.



pedit: oh yeah, gladiator can be a scum role. I'm just town by play here.
Look at my Taly wall. How does he and random make sense as w/w? If anything, he makes way more sense as w/w with Shoshin but it makes no sense for scum!Wisdom to bus scum!Shoshin, does it?

Based on my Taly wall, I don’t see Wisdom and random being teammates. And Wisdom is also right about scum docs being more common than scum hoods. I’ve been in a game with the former in fact but never the latter. Scum docs are far from unusual.

If you’re scum in this game, am I - a broken jailkeep who unknowingly wolfsided on D5, really your N5 NA? Because I sure as hell wouldn’t be mine.

Shoshin’s reactions to both Angel lynch and CS NK don’t sound villagery to me. Both reactions are way overblown. She’s faking Angel upset - since she too has Angel blood on her hands yet did not save either Sajj or Wheme - whose hands were clean. Her reaction to CS NK makes no sense unless she’s scum. She’s pissed at CS brczuse her fake bg ploy faiked to pocket him. If she were town, she may ir may not have saved him but she woukd definitely feel bad about he not preventing his death. Same with Wheme but she has no regrets for either. However CS and I are evek for mislynching an arguable toxic, anti-town player and she continues to act holier-than-thou over both that and my Sajj hammer, which unlike her re: CS/Wheme, I actually do feel bad about.
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Post Post #4514 (isolation #814) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:19 pm

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In post 4509, the worst wrote:
In post 4506, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@the worst read my Taly wall and please tell me A) how this is scum and B) how Wisdom/random are w/w together?
Taly is very good at scum, in particular distancing. I would not call anything in that wall outside his scumrange with rando for a moment.

I'll link you the last game I played with scum!Taly if you want. Varsoon is a much weaker player when it comes to this which would explain the lurkout before he lost connection.

I don't have the time to go through and case it in detail but if you want it I have recommended reading.
Yes, please do. There was something else you promised to case on? Also, I am extremely interested to know more about Shoshin’s scum repertoire you referred to.

I’m frustrated that we will have to tolerate more of her scum WIFOM garbage for yet another day.
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Post Post #4515 (isolation #815) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:20 pm

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In post 4513, the worst wrote:it's basically impossible to correctly Shoshin based on tone alone. she's always ridiculously dramatic.
You found her profiles. Link me to some of her town games.
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Post Post #4521 (isolation #816) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:34 pm

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In post 4516, the worst wrote:viewtopic.php?f=52&t=76098

pedit: she has townmeta onsite, she's like this but to a way lesser extent. her scumgame has actually been historically more agreeable and less personal from what I've seen but she does low brow it a little on this site soooo

either way meta wise I actually don't think she has the capacity to vomit as much sheer content as she has as scum. it's possible but I'd be surprised.
Whose ISOs are we looking at Taly or Shoshin’s? @Wisdom , do you have any scumgames you can link me too?

I feel you’ve put us into a no win situation here by saving the only player who is actually scum in the game, so how does my vote even matter?

The game could have ended already and now we have to put up with her crap for yet another day. Why?
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Post Post #4524 (isolation #817) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:40 pm

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In post 4518, the worst wrote:the reason I think there's a lot more team equity in wisdom/rando than wisdom/shoshin was their entrance to ?LyLo?

wis and rando feel so in sync and coordinated. you and I aren't in sync. shoshin and I are like...... 30% in sync? in that I'm either right or I'm being pocketed hard?

either way I'd just feel so weird if wisdom hardbussed chick then came into today hardbussing Shoshin as well. Everyone is so willing to lynch her. she doesn't feel like groupscum in 5p.

Either I'm wrong and she's the last scum (town!Wisdom flip => powerlynch Shoshin) or my paranoia is warranted and there's 2 scum left. If there are two scum wisdom is confirmed scum fmpov.
In post 4519, the worst wrote:unless you think I'm literally scum with Shoshin (all other partner possibilities for me are now disproven), Wisdom is the best lynch here. I'm willing to hammertest to prove Shoshin/tw is not the scumteam obviously
I really feel for you and I truly believe you got pocketed hard. I too wanted to save her before Chick flip but Chick flipped red and Shoshin did everything possible to stop it.

However, I hate to point this out but your role according to MafiaWiki is NAI, so I’m basically left with choosing between two villas.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gladiator
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Post Post #4526 (isolation #818) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:46 pm

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In post 4522, the worst wrote:Wisdom and rando have both treated me like I'm town strictly UNLESS they need my lynch to get through today. +team equity by the fact they're both powering for a Shoshin lynch--i don't think Wisdom came into today expecting to need to lynch me. nothing really locks the same feeling in for rando but I hope you get what I mean
Wisdom scumread you before gladiate and random townread you. I really wish Wisdom hadn’t have done that because you probably wouldn’t have gladiated and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Why couldn’t you have justvtrusted me to make the right decision? Now I feel like my hands are tied and I am basically firced to mislynch - one way or another.

If I hadn’t have saved Shoshin D4, we - at the worst - would be dealing with a tolerable Chivk instead.
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Post Post #4529 (isolation #819) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:53 pm

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In post 4525, the worst wrote:I did say that, yeah.

I think you know I'm town here. I hope Wisdom is town but I can't bring myself to risk losing by not considering a distinct possibility.
I’m in no rush to mislynch either way. Oh and I guarantee you that I will be the NK tonight and that Shoshin will once again fail to protect the intended target. What do I win?

See unlike your gladiate, votes aren’t locked in. There was no rush for you to gladiate and Shoshin will continue to be insufferable now that she knows she’s safe. Meh.
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Post Post #4532 (isolation #820) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:59 pm

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In post 4527, the worst wrote:Do you see what I mean about the possibility of 2 scum left? :(
In post 4528, the worst wrote:honestly I'm sorry to do the gladiate situation to you but I'm actually confirmation biased TOWARDS Shoshin being scum here. it's as much forcing myself not to lose by not considering enough situations as it is about forcing anything else.
You’ve put town and your self in a precarious situation, because you are counting on Shoshin not betraying you. Did you consider that possibility?

Hypothetically, she and random (highly doubt it though) could be w/w and she switches her vote for you before hammer. That’s highly unlikely but it’s not an impossibility.
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Post Post #4536 (isolation #821) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:04 pm

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In post 4530, the worst wrote:actually the reason I want to rush this endgame is so we can get to whether or not to lynch Shoshin asap, I'm kinda exhausted from being in the same thread as her rn.

Please don't discuss the NK in depth. if Shoshin is actually a town bodyguard and scum is {Wizzy,rando} then her correctly guessing the night kill instantly wins us the game. it's better not to speculate on it at all.
I’d agree except there’s nothing to guess. It has to be me and I will die because Shoshin will not save me. She never saves the actual scum target. We both know that. Remember whrn she begged to “prove her role”? That was a dead giveaway that she was lying because she had no intention of ever actually doing that.
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Post Post #4538 (isolation #822) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:12 pm

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In post 4534, the worst wrote:possible solo scum in probability order is like:
{Shoshin}
{RadiantCowbells}
{Boris the alpaca}
{rando}
{Wisdom}

but team probability is in order roughly:
{rando, Wisdom}
{Shoshin, tw}
{Wisdom, Shoshin}


all other teams I ~think~ are hammer tested
Yes, we obviously czn safely rule out you and Wisdom being w/w together. Lol. I’m sure you regret what you’ve done now, as you could not possibly have seen the absolute vileness that was witnessed in this thread. I unfortunately cannot get passed it as it can’t help but to influence my interpretation of the gamestate. Please don’t ask me to do this. I’m seriously at the point where I’m literally worrued about losing it on ger and getting in trouble with the mods and she will be a gazillion tilmes worse after Wisdom mislynch. Trust me on that.
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Post Post #4539 (isolation #823) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:14 pm

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In post 4537, the worst wrote:
In post 4534, the worst wrote:possible solo scum in probability order is like:
{Shoshin}
{RadiantCowbells}
{Boris the alpaca}
{rando}
{Wisdom}

but team probability is in order roughly:
{rando, Wisdom}
{Shoshin, tw}
{Wisdom, Shoshin}


all other teams I ~think~ are hammer tested
In post 4535, the worst wrote:from my point of view:-
- if there's 2 scum left, Wisdom is confirmed scum.
- if there's 1 scum left, it's almost always Shoshin

and I will relish in lynching Shoshin tmrw if she's the last scum.
talk to me about this if you don't mind--ill come back to Shoshin after
What if Wisdom flips green, Shoshin flips red and game doesn’t end?
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Post Post #4546 (isolation #824) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:24 pm

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In post 4544, Wisdom wrote:there are no other possibilities
shoshin is obvious scum and nancy and random are town
Okay, you know I’m townreading everyone BUT Shoshin but no one is confirmed town but me. So. You/random , tw/random , Shoshin/random - however extremely unlikely are not 100% impossible.
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Post Post #4550 (isolation #825) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:27 pm

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In post 4545, the worst wrote:You don't see why I'm concerned you never considered rando a possibility?
@Wisdom , he does have a point. Do I think random is scum? Of course not. Do I think if there’s 4 scum in the game as opposed to 3, that it’s impossible? No, the only possibility of 100% town equity is me. No one of the 3 of you is off the table if there are 4 scum in the game.
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Post Post #4555 (isolation #826) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:31 pm

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In post 4552, the worst wrote:Actually your reasoning here is scummier than your reasoning in coalition was. Discounting a w/w hood is a farce honestly.
I’m assuming Coalition is Wisdom’s scumgame? Can you link me to it?

Town!Wisdom has been known to have tunnel vision. He was beyond convinced that moment was scum in Minuet.
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Post Post #4562 (isolation #827) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:37 pm

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In post 4553, Wisdom wrote:Where have you seen all scum hoods?
Ive only ever seen one and it was nothing like here
Look at the way random and his slot treated chick's slot
In post 4554, the worst wrote:This game has had like 20 hoods it seems like an optimal place to use a w/w hood. and do you seriously think rando vs. chickadee spews rando so hard he's conftown without any questions? that's not even high calibre threate tbh
Possible but unlikely. For one, that hood was never made public like underground/masquerade ball. Both of them could have easily taken it to the virtual grave without anyone been the wiser post-game. Random share this with me, which he certainly didn’t have to and Chick later confirmed it. Now, it this hood had been a public one like underground/masquerade ball, then I’d see your point but since it was hiddrn, I really don’t see the point of it existing. Not saying it’s impossible but Shoshin being a scum doc is much more likely. I’ve been in such a game in fact, so I know scum docs are far from unusual if not necessarily typical.
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Post Post #4568 (isolation #828) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:40 pm

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In post 4556, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4549, the worst wrote:why would you bus him if Shoshin is there as an easy mislynch and you're one lynch away from winning?
because thats how i operate
random is a weak player, if i wanted to get him lynched itd be easy
Lynch him after chick and im guaranteed to win, especially with no prs that can catch me
Keep him around and tie myself to him? Why bother?
Well tbf, the exact same argument can be made for the worst/Shoshin except that the worst would actually have to be a masochist in that case.
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Post Post #4575 (isolation #829) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:46 pm

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In post 4564, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4049, WhemeStar wrote:Shoshin + the worst

There you go
or this
Wheme also mistakenly thought Sajj was redirected to me. Now that we’ve all seen his role flip, we know that’s impossible.
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Post Post #4577 (isolation #830) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:52 pm

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In post 4572, Wisdom wrote:could they catch me somehow? No. So I wouldn't kill them. That's the point.
In post 4573, the worst wrote:I'm really bored of your WIFOM argument around night kills. they were strong night kills regardless of who the last scumfucks are.
It’s not WIFOM, that is how I knew Shoshin had to be scum. Those NKs benefit her the most or someone who frames her with it.

They were voyeurs not watchers, so the only ones who nneeed to be possibly concerned about them are Shshij and random. Since random’s claim about not using his role has been backed up, that kezves Shshin as likely scum doc.
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Post Post #4580 (isolation #831) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:56 pm

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In post 4578, the worst wrote:if you can't vote either way we'll just end up in a 2v2 until deadline runs out and. better to roll the dice.


pedit: but they were obvtown TPRs with highly fluid reads anyone should have killed them
But who keeps insisting that they were no threat and that I was the most obvious NK? Shoshin.
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Post Post #4581 (isolation #832) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:58 pm

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In post 4579, the worst wrote:none of us have useful power roles anymore lol
random still has communicative but more important, Shoshin is still protective who should be dead now, if town.
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Post Post #4586 (isolation #833) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:03 pm

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In post 4578, the worst wrote:if you can't vote either way we'll just end up in a 2v2 until deadline runs out and. better to roll the dice.


pedit: but they were obvtown TPRs with highly fluid reads anyone should have killed them
Unfortunately thanks to she who shall not be named, I can no longer have an objective perspective about this game. The only vote I could possibly have felt good about either way has been taken away from me.
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Post Post #4590 (isolation #834) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:05 pm

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In post 4582, the worst wrote:I'm pretty sure she'd say that as either town or scum tho
Are you serious? Do you honestly believe she is that clueless about the gamestate?
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Post Post #4594 (isolation #835) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:07 pm

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In post 4588, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4586, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The only vote I could possibly have felt good about either way has been taken away from me.
guess whose fault that is
Yeah I know but tbf, I’m the worst is just as horrified and shocked as the rest of us. That doesn’t however stop me from being frustrated to no end about it though.
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Post Post #4595 (isolation #836) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:08 pm

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In post 4591, the worst wrote:regardless of who the last scum are we can win this without even talking to Shoshin Nancy
Please tell me how that can even be possible?
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Post Post #4597 (isolation #837) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:10 pm

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In post 4592, the worst wrote:
In post 4590, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4582, the worst wrote:I'm pretty sure she'd say that as either town or scum tho
Are you serious? Do you honestly believe she is that clueless about the gamestate?
do I trust Shoshin to be shamelessly bad?
lol. yes. more than I trust myself to be a duckling.
Lol that’s not what I asked you. I asked you if you really believe she is that clueless?
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Post Post #4599 (isolation #838) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 4593, Wisdom wrote:nancy can we end this already
Easy for you to say. I have no idea what to do. Had I know the worst was going to gladiate, I would have already hammered.
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Post Post #4604 (isolation #839) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:18 pm

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In post 4598, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4594, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:the worst is just as horrified and shocked as the rest of us.
are you kidding me nancy
cmon
You’re saying he is some kind of clairvoyant and knew that she was going to act this atrociously? How could he have? I sure as hell didn’t see this coming.

Unless, she knew she’d already won the game - no matter what she did and didn’t see the reason to pretend anymore?

Of course the worst couldn’t have forseen that but Shoshin’s behaviour - knowing she could get away with thzt with 0 repercussions, makes my blood boil.

I’d rather lose this game than ever risk letting her win as scum - eventhough I seriously doubt that she and the worst are w/w together.
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Post Post #4606 (isolation #840) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:23 pm

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In post 4603, Wisdom wrote:While if hes scum with shoshin and you vote me, we lose
Its not hard
What if you’re scum with random though? I don’t know that. At any case, I don’t see the need to rush this vote. As long as I vote for one of you before EOD 6, there is no need for me to rush my vote when I’m unsure.
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Post Post #4608 (isolation #841) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:28 pm

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In post 4605, the worst wrote:I think just throw down a vote nancy. We need to move this thing along, we're in danger of running to 200 pages.

fwiw if you vote me I'm happy to self hammer so you don't have to deal with more shoshin
The only way that’s true is if you’re town and it makes no sense for you to have gladiated in that case.

You know damn well who I wanted to hammer and who the hell cares how many pages there are in the thread. The important thing is for me to make the right decision and as long as I do that before EOD 6, I don’t understand why either of you are rushing me.
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Post Post #4613 (isolation #842) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 4607, Wisdom wrote:ive given you one million reasons im not scum, especially with random
the only thing youll achieve by taking your time is risk shoshin and tw convincing you to vote me and lose
Or more like Shodhin once again digging her oxn grave in your favour. It’s actually in your interest not to rush me and I doubt the worst would if he didn’t know he was dealing with a potential ticking timebomb.

There is nothing to lose so long as I vote for either of you before EOD 6 but there is a lot to lose if I vote wrong, so I will not rush - no matter how much pressure I get from either of you and anyone in my position, would 100% understand this.

I’m kind’ve getting pissed at both of you for refusing to understand my position here.
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Post Post #4616 (isolation #843) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:38 pm

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In post 4610, the worst wrote:the main reasons I'm rushing this are that I'm super exhausted of this game and I don't want to risk more drama. :(
I understand why you’re worried but this tilme I’m prepared and if there is drama it will result in my favour. Trust me, history will not repeat itself.
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Post Post #4617 (isolation #844) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:42 pm

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In post 4615, the worst wrote:I don't disagree with that. this one's up to you 100%.

I'm happy to cool off and let you work through it. Yell out if you wanna talk about more stuff.
I’m completely emotionally drained and exhausted from what happened before. Shoshin temporarily neutralized my neurons. It adversely affected cted my ability to view the gamestate clearly.
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Post Post #4619 (isolation #845) » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:54 pm

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In post 4618, the worst wrote:
In post 4617, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4615, the worst wrote:I don't disagree with that. this one's up to you 100%.

I'm happy to cool off and let you work through it. Yell out if you wanna talk about more stuff.
I’m completely emotionally drained and exhausted from what happened before. Shoshin temporarily neutralized my neurons. It adversely affected cted my ability to view the gamestate clearly.
I get that. it might be worth sleeping on it, either way.
I figure that she will either come to her senses and try to make amends or hang herself. As I see it, she got cocky thinking she could bully and harass me into Wisdom vote. Now that she knows it won’t work, she will one way or another help solve this game for me - even if she doesn’t realize it.
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Post Post #4627 (isolation #846) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:49 am

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In post 2167, Chickadee wrote:
Why would anyone think The Worst is scum? I'm not understanding that.

Also (I think I saw someone mention this, but I have no clue when or who) I think there could be some merit in the underground event having a scum in it. But it's just scum wifom, so I'm not sure where to start with that
. I mentioned it in my masquerade PT but it wasn't super heavily used. Never got past a page.
This post always pinged me.
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Post Post #4628 (isolation #847) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:54 am

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In post 3899, Scioness Sajj wrote:Scum scum hood?

Nah
Interesting.
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Post Post #4632 (isolation #848) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:03 am

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In post 4629, Randomnamechange wrote:oh nice shoshin trying to fake uncertainty and thought process
If she votes the worst what would be your take on that?

Because you know that would be a hammer, whether I vote or not, unless of course you switch your vote too. The only ones who are locked in obviously, have to be Wisdom and the worst.
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Post Post #4633 (isolation #849) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:04 am

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In post 4632, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4629, Randomnamechange wrote:oh nice shoshin trying to fake uncertainty and thought process
If she votes the worst what would be your take on that?

Because you know that would be a hammer, whether I vote or not, unless of course you switch your vote too. The only ones who are locked in obviously, have to be Wisdom and the worst.
Nevermind. :lol:
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Post Post #4634 (isolation #850) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:23 am

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@randomidget , I know how extremely active, helpful and analytical you were in our hood. In order to help my vote, I need a scum chat to compare and contrast that with.

I think that would be enormously helpful to me. Thanks.
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Post Post #4648 (isolation #851) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:41 pm

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In post 4645, Shoshin wrote:Wisdom, assume I'm town for a moment. Is the last scum Random or the worst?
In post 4646, Wisdom wrote:dont ask pointless questions
In post 4647, Shoshin wrote:It's not pointless. I'm having trouble tracking your progression on Random from nullscum to confirmed town. I'm also having trouble tracking your progression from strong town on the worst to whatever you think now.
Why are these questions “pointless” @Wisdom?

I am after all the only 100% confitown in this game. I would also like answers to those questionstoo, especially your 180 on the worst. I would also like to know why random - who couldn’t decide who to lynch between Chick and Shoshin, immediately voted to lynch the worst, despite townreading him. Since he read both of you as town, you would think now that we’re in LYLO, he wouldn’t want to rush such an important decision.
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Post Post #4651 (isolation #852) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:41 pm

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In post 4649, Wisdom wrote:they are pointless because its information that is in the thread
Shoshin is asking me who i think is scum between random and tw as if thats something im keeping a secret
But how did you go from being certain he was town, to being certain he’s scum? I’m also realizing the fact that we had two town-town neighbours in Reality and Wheme and only one in Chick. Random also claimed neighbour to me in our PT. So, what is more likely 3 town neighbours or 2 town-town and 2 scum-scum?
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Post Post #4660 (isolation #853) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:51 pm

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In post 4652, Wisdom wrote:2 town-town and 2 town-scum, obviously. Scum-scum neighbors are pointless. They can just chat in the scum pt.
Normally, I’d agree with you but there are 4 neighbour roles in this game, is my point.
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Post Post #4664 (isolation #854) » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:48 pm

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In post 4662, Wisdom wrote:after all you cant have two neighborhoods with 3 neighbors, can you?
Thete are 4 neighbours not 3 in this game. Random claimed to be a neighbour to me in our PT.
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Post Post #4667 (isolation #855) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:07 am

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Please elaborate.
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Post Post #4675 (isolation #856) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:39 am

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In post 4669, the worst wrote:Nance have you read Shoshin's only scumgame onsite?
No, can you give me that link again?
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Post Post #4678 (isolation #857) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:47 am

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In post 4674, Wisdom wrote:i mean, maybe you thought youd get a random lynch without a gladiate
You only gladiated when shoshin was about to be hammered
Actually, I’m glad he did that because the fact is that on N6, her role will be self-resolving anyhow. I am obviously going to be the NK and Shoshin will either prove her town bg role without a doubt or she won’t. IOW, If she makes it to LYLO in my place, she’s confiscum, so she’d be a slam dunk to lynch at 3 person LYLO with both of us still in the game N6. My point being, that it would have been stupid to risk mislynching an ultimately self-resolving slot.
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #858) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:03 am

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In post 4676, the worst wrote:I'm pretty sick right now and need to crash soonish. Nancy I wanna show you what I saw wrt gamestate. Again I know this isn't a great situation for you but if Shoshin is scum she doesn't have a partner. I'd be really surprised if wisdom was scum with anyone but rando here, if he's scum. and a world exists here where Shoshin is "scum with a town role pm". Her onsite meta is weak but if she's scum here she is way far outside her established scum meta.

to an extent she should be sortable by postcount and wordcount. the amount of content she has vomited up here is town indicative.

she seems to come across as a lot less passionate and engaged as scum. she has definitely been passionate and engaged here, like to a fault.

annoyingly she also has a point about mechanics. night kills here are consistent with the scumteam trying to duck a bodyguard. using a bg ability on Nico the same night she was killed makes no sense unless she knew Nico was macho. Nico's masquerade hood is confirmed T/T so I can't think of a way scum!Shoshin could have known that. unless she's like a mafia jailkeeper which I'd need to check against other night actions.


coming into this phase EVERY PLAYER wanted to lynch Shoshin at least a bit. she's done herself no favours. I can't see scum!Shoshin realising she needs two more mislynches to win and then charging into zero-charisma territory. this day phase is a lot more consistent with Shoshin being the designated mislynch because she would be VERY satisfying to lynch right here.


I think Wisdom thought he had this in the bag. his posting is super consistent with what I'd expect from flailing scum whose plan has just come unstuck. I'd be genuinely surprised if this is town!Wisdom who has decided to abandon all reason and just lock into a half assed mechanical locktown read on rando.



it all just..... feels wrong as fuck



I agree toxicity is not a fair way to play and it is a crummy scum strategy. if Wisdom is actually town here we powerlynch Shoshin tomorrow and I'll be relieved. But more and more I'm not seeing this as town!Wisdom. I'm sorry.



without bordering on trust tell territory, please believe I am never ever scum with Shoshin here. I'll push people hard and bitch and moan about gamestate as scum but outright rudeness is totally intolerable. if she's scum she never deserves to win this.
Well, I can’t believe you’d betray our friendship this badly just to win a game, so I believe you. I think the outright certainty both random (okay well 98% lol) and Wisdom are displaying about each other’s alignments are definitely concerning. So maybe Shoshin is right. Maybe scum did want to kill me and targetted Reality - who if Wisdom/random are in fact scum - would have been far better choice for their endgame, than I would be obviously.

See I was smart not to rush my vote because I was obviously not able to think clearly that first night for obvious reasons. There’s a beyond better than even odds, I might have voted incorrectly.
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Post Post #4683 (isolation #859) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 4680, Wisdom wrote:no, what was right is that delaying this is getting you convinced to hand the win to scum despite the game being solved
i was right once again
You know what had transpired that night. You also have to know that I was extremely upset about it. I am rarely capable of making logically informed decisions when I’m in that state of mind and barring some kind of emergency, I know myself well enough not to make inalterable decisions when I am that emotional , because they’re frequently wrong.

I haven’t made up my mind yet.
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Post Post #4684 (isolation #860) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:07 am

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In post 4681, Wisdom wrote:you are discarding all reason against me being scum, against random being scum, just because tw goes "OMG wisdom somehow solved the game and figured random is town, must be scum"
well done nancy
Lol, once again you are underestimating me. I am not rushing this vote with damn good reason. You can choose to believe this or not. \_0_/
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Post Post #4685 (isolation #861) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:10 am

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In post 4682, Wisdom wrote:but this is pointless
Just vote me so we can have this chat in endgame
I don’t really believe you want me to do that but this is a very clever gambit on your part irrespective of alignment.
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Post Post #4687 (isolation #862) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:38 am

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In post 4686, Wisdom wrote:its not a gambit nancy
Im tired
It makes no sense for me to be scum yet youre considering it
Of course I’m considering it, I have too. I also have to consider whether or not the worst could also possibly be scum. I’m considering the possibility/probability of everyone but me being scum in this game.

I’m also saying if it is a gambit, it’s NAI obviously because like you said, you lose and if town - we lose, so I doubt you want to throw the game in either case.
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #863) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:39 am

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In post 4677, the worst wrote:@Nancy viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76221

without tryna be rude she's just not good at scum
not saying there's a 0% chance she's scum here because I'm a bad meta reader. but compare the games
I don’t know how I’d have read her in that game but the difference in content is quite dramatic.
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Post Post #4690 (isolation #864) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:55 am

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In post 248, the worst wrote:
In post 247, joral wrote:Is anyone getting a town read on Princess?

I'm having a lot of trouble with it. She claims town, and that angel is, but no reasoning to back it up. 1st post claims stoned, then doesn't do drugs, but claims to be a rock? It's a bunch of stuff that honestly I can't make heads or tails of, and isn't really helping with the game. But is it really an anti-town tell, or a player for whom this is their first game?
I'll let you decide but the rock flavourclaim makes sense? They are Ludo's friends ^_^
Oh wow, this post is completely irrelevant to the current gamestate but I had no idea Rennais was crumming. :facepalm:
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Post Post #4697 (isolation #865) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:55 am

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In post 4691, Shoshin wrote:In 681, Taly subtly tries to derail lynch on Creature. A few posts earlier, Random calls Creature lynchbait.
I probably have my board preferences set up different from most. Can you requote this?
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Post Post #4700 (isolation #866) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:10 am

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In post 4692, Shoshin wrote:@Nancy

You said earlier that Taly doesn't make sense with Creature. But in he suggested moving away from the Creature lynch despite voting Creature early on D1. That's the most common pattern that scum fall into when distancing early in the game. They look for ways to justify another wagon, wait for town to start the wagon, and then hop on when safe to do so.

At the same time that Taly hints at town Creature, Random calls Creature lynchbait. The sequence of votes that follow are interesting.

Joral agrees with Taly/Random and votes Renais in 700.

Wheme responds by voting Creature in 710.

I vote Creature after Wheme in 721.

These are both town votes preventing a counterwagon on town Renais. There's no other way to read these votes. If I were scum, I could have joined Joral on Renais.

Random tries directing my attention to Renais in 739. The lynch is building on Creature but Random wants my attention on Renais. What's Random's intent? If I had voted Renais, do you think Random would have joined me? If not, what was the point of asking that question in the first place?

Renais could have been a counterwagon to the Creature lynch if I joined it. Wheme used his vote loosely. The scum would have joined the mislynch. Joral was already voting. Renais was playing like lynhbait. But instead, I say that Renais isn't who I want lynched. And I stick on Creature. That's a big town-tell for me.

The counterwagon on Renais isn't going anywhere, so Random suddenly starts pushing Nico in 753. Why the sudden turn onto Nico? Nico's lurking, but that doesn't make Nico scummier than Renais or TPF. But that's where Random ends up turning. What's his intent?

Nico doesn't go anywhere, so Random votes TPF in 791. You follow him in 793. That's understandable, because TPF is scum, but it's also terrible timing. We need votes consolidating on Creature, yet Random is still looking for another lynch. Why?

It doesn't take much to see that Random doesn't want to lynch Creature. He looks for mislynches on Renais & Nico. That doesn't work, so he turns to TPF. His least-preferred lynch is Creature, the scum redirector and 1-shot strongman, so when he can't get a mislynch, he looks for a counterwagon on a worthless scum role.

Random never votes Creature.

The day ends in a no lynch.

This is why I've been suspecting Random the entire game.

I still don't see how this sequence ever comes from town. It's too calculated. Yes, town sometimes push mislynches, but they do so cluelessly. Town don't look for lynches on every viable mislynch (Renais & Nico) before eventually pushing a lynch on less valuable scum (identity cop vs redirector/strongman) when there's an obvious scum in front of their eyes (Creature). They also don't call that obvious scum "lynchbait" while pushing lynches on actual lynchbait (Renais & Nico) - there's a massive inconsistency in the way Random approaches that.

If I'm wrong about this sequence events, please explain. I don't want to make the wrong decision here.
Is it possible you could repost this with links? Anyway, I see what you’re saying about Taly. I think that’s what the worst was hinting at earlier. I think I glossed over that the first time I read it because it was so subtle. Also Taly suggesting that it was town amongst the worst, Sajj, Reality who was responsible for the underground makes no sense, nor does the bs about Creature piling up votes on his wagon to create WIFOM. That was proof positive that Taly was lying about Creature meta because scum!Creature would never do anything like that.

Hmmmm . . . I was going to say that the worst made a huge mistake gladiating Wisdom over random but maybe not. I will be watching Taly very closely in the future, he’s very sly.

Random suspiciously avoiding my request for a scumchat link is NAGL. Yeah, maybe Wisdom is right and I should just vote him? :twisted:
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Post Post #4705 (isolation #867) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:28 am

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In post 4701, Shoshin wrote:Your notion that scum always bus Creature is wrong because if scum always do something, then they'll eventually stop doing it to get townread. People adapt their meta. That's the nature of this game.

Random's play is explainable from a scum perspective. There's motive (priority: mislynch townies, and if that doens't work, lynch less valuable scum). There's evidence of an informed perspective: going after mislynches before settling on less valuable scum. And there's inconsistent logic: avoiding lynch on valuable scum because it's "lynchbait" while pursuing lynches on actual lynchbait (Renais & Nico).

Can you explain Random's play from a town perspective? Why would town avoiding lynching Creature if he knows this is how Creature plays as scum? Why would town avoid lynching "lynchbait" yet push other lynchbait players (Renais & Nico)? What are the chances a clueless townie somehow manages to look for mislynches before settling on less valuable scum? Like, if there's 4 players who are lynchbait, 2 scum, 2 town, the clueless townie doesn't go for mislynches first before eventually settling on the less valuable scum. There's inside knowledge underlying that sequence.
They wouldn’t obviously but remember town!Reality wanted to lynch you over Creature. It still makes no sense to me why but that’s a fact. Random pushed TPF/Chick on D1 but yeah, should have definitely been on Creature wagon D2. I know that random should have never been so quick to vote the worst besides townreading him. He should be taking his time to sort both Wisdom and him. I remember really disliking Taly’s agressiveness in pushing his reads. It felt a bit manipulative, like he was pretty much implying that townreading Nico/Rennais was somehow a scumclaim.
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Post Post #4709 (isolation #868) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:35 am

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In post 4706, Wisdom wrote:im guessing you havent played with taly before then
He was one half of Reasonably Rational hydra along with Cerb in Varsoon game and he was obvtown in that game. That’s the only game I’ve played with him so far.

However, I have played numerous times with Creature as either alignment and for someone claiming to be so confident of his meta, Taly suggesting Creature pile votes on his wagon as WIFOM is bs.
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Post Post #4715 (isolation #869) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:52 am

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In post 4710, Wisdom wrote:You said you disliked his aggressiveness
Taly is aggressive
Its a playstyle
Definitely possible. I know I intensely dislike it when others push their reads on me but you’re right, that isn’t AI.
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Post Post #4717 (isolation #870) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 4716, Shoshin wrote:I'm gonna read some Wisdom scum games.
Please link them here.
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Post Post #4722 (isolation #871) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:00 am

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In post 4717, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4716, Shoshin wrote:I'm gonna read some Wisdom scum games.
Please link them here.
Btw, Random was scum in Varsoon game but I was very lost for much of that game and wasn’t following the thread.
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Post Post #4726 (isolation #872) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:29 am

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In post 4723, Shoshin wrote:In the scum PM, Wisdom says to kill Math because town can easily change their reads at any moment. So the whole, "I'd never kill Reality because she townread me" bit is straight-up bullshit.
I mistakenly stopped a scum wagon and I was the NK that night, so scum can and do kill people townreading them. Like I said, Reality/Wheme kills either point to you or scum framing you.

Scum often orchestrates their kills to create WIFOM.

What may be hillariously ironic is if Reality was unknowingly wolfsiding.
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Post Post #4727 (isolation #873) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:33 am

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In post 4724, Shoshin wrote:Wisdom interacts with scum partner in the thread quite a bit, so that's consistent with his interactions here.
It would be really interesting to see a Taly scumchat just for comparison.

But the scumchat I most want to see is random’s. @randomidget are you ever planning on linking me to a scumchat of yours, so that I can compare and contrast it with our hood?
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Post Post #4735 (isolation #874) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:51 am

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In post 4732, Wisdom wrote:
In post 4725, Shoshin wrote:According to Math that game (who is a reputable source), Wisdom is very strong scum who heavily manipulates his meta. So all that stuff about how "scum always bus Creature" is more bullshit from Wisdom. Wisdom knows scum manipulate meta because he does it himself.
Creature is not wisdom
Scum usually do bus Creature except when it’s in their interest to do otherwise. Creature was both strongman and redirecter. Scum wanted to keep that slot alive as long as possible.
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Post Post #4739 (isolation #875) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:46 am

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In post 4703, Shoshin wrote:
In post 681, Vartsun wrote:Upon looking at the wagons, I'm thinking this ability is probably done by town within {the worst, Reality Check, Sajj}

If Creature were scum, then it'd make more sense to remove players ON his wagon, and to cause WIFOM.

A lot of the worst's, reality's, and Sajj's interactions in this game were amongst each other - as they were very active.

So now I'm little worried about the Creature wagon, nobody's outright defended it besides maybe Nancy before her vote, but I don't think people are engaging with that.

Wheme was the ONLY sensible vote on that wagon, but he's going for Joral... who I should ISO to strengthen my read there - because I think he's town, but I don't where his heads at in the game if he's not voting independently. Dislike the tgkfap vote much like the rest of their posts.
This is the key post, Nancy.

I don't want you to get upset at me, but I think you're misreading what Taly said here.

Taly says that the underground removal ability comes from town.

Then Taly contradicts himself by saying, "If Creature is scum, he would have removed players on his wagon," implying that the removal ability comes from scum, and saying that Creature's not scum because Creature didn't remove anyone from his wagon.

Then Taly concludes that Creature's probably town (doesn't want to say this outright, because of course he's waiting to see how town reacts). His reasoning: the wagon sucks. If it sucks, why is he on it?
Okay, I understood everything except for mixing up piling with removal. My opinion on this is the same as what I posted previously.
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Post Post #4742 (isolation #876) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:14 pm

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Is random ever going to give me a link to his scumchat?
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Post Post #4745 (isolation #877) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:08 pm

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In post 4743, Shoshin wrote:I went looking for one. Found this from a ccouple years ago: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=69019

The game is here: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=68901

I skimmed the chat and game but don't think it's very telling because of age. But either way, he hasn't done anything this game outside his capability as scum.
Thanks but neither really told me too much.
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Post Post #4746 (isolation #878) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:10 pm

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In post 4744, Shoshin wrote:Have you seen any of his town games?
No, why did CS think this was random’s scum meta?
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Post Post #4752 (isolation #879) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:14 pm

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Was reading D4, no way are the worst/Shoshin ever w/w together. So if there is only one scum, we are not yet in LYLO. If there are two, we only risk losing if Wisdom/random are w/w together since there can only be ones scum between the worst/Shoshin.

In the final 4: me, Shoshin, random and whomever survives between the worst/Wisdom.

NK: me obviously. Shoshin’s role/alignment is self-resolving by either protecting me and dying in my place - town or failing to save me and making it to 3 person LYLO - scum.

Conclusion: lynching the worst over Wisdom loses us the game if Wisdom/random are w/w or 2 scum left in the game but lynching Wisdom doesn’t end the game if there are 2 scum left in the game. If there is only one scum, it really doesn’t matter whom we lynch but if two, we conceivably lose the game if it is Wisdom/random. Taly’s Creature post is super scummy and random did briefly try to push confirmed cop Nico.

Shoshin did try to save Sajj eventhough she was scumreading her at the time. There is no scum motivation for doing this.

Because I see no world where the worst/Shoshin are w/w together, it doesn’t even matter whether or not the worst is scum because, we can still risk one more mislynch if we lynch Wisdom but not if we lynch the worst.
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Post Post #4753 (isolation #880) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:32 pm

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In post 4751, Shoshin wrote:Last set of questions, the worst:

Why would you call me "scum with a town role PM" when you'd know that my reads have been very good this game? Like, if you assume I'm town and Wisdom/Random are scum, you'd have to admit that I had the best reads in this game (defended against both mislynches, called Creature/Random on D2, said Chick was plausible partner with Random, and called Wisdom on D4).

You'd also know that I'm the reason that Nancy (confirmed town) is living all the way to LYLO, an extremely pro-town result. To me, it feels like you're being disingenuous about my what you think of my play, and that you're doing it to intensely buddy Nancy in preparation for LYLO between us three.

You said that players much better than me have used their bodyguard to sacrifice their lives for badtown. Can you give an example? If you just pull any example of a bodyguard, I'm lynching you. The example has to be from a player who is actually much better than me (they exist, but I doubt that you actually have seen them use bodyguard in the way you claim they have).

Why are you calling me toxic when I haven't said anything worse than other players in this game (I can find posts from you with language just as insulting as mine, as well as posts from players like Wisdom, among others, all of which is quite strong)?

Why are you defending Nancy so strongly while ignoring all the times she's insulted me (while I don't personally hold it against her, Nancy used some very strong language towards me, so it's odd that you call me bad and toxic while pretending that she's 100% innocent of anything)?

(Nancy, don't take this offensively, I'm asking some questions about what happened earlier because I'm concerned that the worst is manipulating the situation to buddy you and secure my mislynch).
Even if he’s scum, the game doesn’t end but if Wisdom is, he can only be scum with random, so we have nothing to lose by lynching Wisdom but lynching the worst could cost us the game. So unless you and the worst are w/w, we have nothing to lose by lynching Wisdom.
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Post Post #4754 (isolation #881) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:32 pm

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VOTE: Wisdom
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Post Post #4755 (isolation #882) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:35 pm

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Sorry but I couldn’t risk you unvoting or voting for the worst, if there are two scum left in the game. Sorry Wisdom if you are town but this was the only safe vote if there are two scum left in the game, instead of just one.
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Post Post #4757 (isolation #883) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:50 pm

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In post 4756, Shoshin wrote:I already unvoted, Nancy.

Again, my fear is that you are going to just mislynch me tomorrow. So I'd rather be 100% certain.

On the bright side, you can now rest easy that I'm not scum partnered with the worst.
Unless you think that the worst and random are w/w, you need to vote Wisdom.
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Post Post #4758 (isolation #884) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:53 pm

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In post 4756, Shoshin wrote:I already unvoted, Nancy.

Again, my fear is that you are going to just mislynch me tomorrow. So I'd rather be 100% certain.

On the bright side, you can now rest easy that I'm not scum partnered with the worst.
That isn’t possible if I am the NK and you save me, is it?

That’s why I voted Wisdom but if there are two scum in the game, who do you think they are?
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Post Post #4759 (isolation #885) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:01 pm

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@Shoshin , do you think the worst and random are w/w together? And as long as I don’t die, I doubt you’re getting mislynched.

If the worst wanted to mislynch you, then why did he gladiate to save you?
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Post Post #4760 (isolation #886) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:03 pm

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UNVOTE: Wisdom

If I can’t hammer anyhow.
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Post Post #4764 (isolation #887) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:35 pm

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@Shoshin , do you think the worst and random are w/w together? If you don’t, you need to vote Wisdom.
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Post Post #4765 (isolation #888) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 4763, the worst wrote:
In post 4748, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4747, the worst wrote:Just gonna pop in and say Rando's meta is NAI here. he's scum with wisdom by gamestate, or town.
He's also scum via behaviors. You disagree with my case?
Rn my strongest reads is that he's scum with wisdom. if not he's probtown. what do you think I'm disagreeing about here?
In post 4756, Shoshin wrote:I already unvoted, Nancy.

Again, my fear is that you are going to just mislynch me tomorrow. So I'd rather be 100% certain.

On the bright side, you can now rest easy that I'm not scum partnered with the worst.
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Post Post #4767 (isolation #889) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:40 pm

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In post 4764, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Shoshin , do you think the worst and random are w/w together? If you don’t, you need to vote Wisdom.
If you really are town bg, you will save me from the NK so you can’t be mislynched. I don’t understand why you’re not voting Wisdom based on that. Unless you think random is his partner, you risk losing us the game, if you don’t vote Wisdom. Why would the worst gladiate to save you if he wanted to mislynch you. Isn’t that what Wisdom and random were trying to do before the worst gladiated?
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Post Post #4768 (isolation #890) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:41 pm

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In post 4767, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4764, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Shoshin , do you think the worst and random are w/w together? If you don’t, you need to vote Wisdom.
If you really are town bg, you will save me from the NK so you can’t be mislynched. I don’t understand why you’re not voting Wisdom based on that. Unless you think random is his partner, you risk losing us the game, if you don’t vote Wisdom. Why would the worst gladiate to save you if he wanted to mislynch you. Isn’t that what Wisdom and random were trying to do before the worst gladiated?
I mean, unless you think random is the worst’s partner.
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Post Post #4770 (isolation #891) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:50 pm

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In post 4769, the worst wrote:me/random would have already won via quickhammer.
How can Shoshin possibly be worried about being mislynched, when I am the obvious NK and if she is bg, she dies in my place. Am I missing something @Shoshin?
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Post Post #4775 (isolation #892) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:00 pm

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In post 4772, Shoshin wrote:I don't want to insult you, Nancy. But you're assuming scum will kill you when their #1 goal is actually leaving me alive, not killing you.
Well, if you prove them wrong by saving me from the NK, then they can’t obviously.
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #893) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:04 pm

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In post 4773, Shoshin wrote:the worst is not partnered with Wisdom or Random or me. That's been established at this point.

The only question left to decide is whether it's Wisdom/Random or solo the worst.
Don’t you get it that if the worst is solo scum, we risk nothing by lynching Wisdom but if Wisdom/random are w/w and you hammer on the worst, we lose the game?
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Post Post #4781 (isolation #894) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:07 pm

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In post 4774, the worst wrote:that's kinda unsortable atm

she's realistically NEVER the night kill. scum know you're the obvious night kill so are liable to kill me instead to avoid shooting Shoshin. scum know this so will shoot you to avoid shooting me.

iocaine powder comes from Australia etc. etc.

if town: Shoshin doesn't necessarily believe she can correctly guess the night kill.

if scum: Shoshin is just positioning me for a losing mislynch following a wisdom mislynch
How?
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Post Post #4783 (isolation #895) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:08 pm

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In post 4777, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4775, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4772, Shoshin wrote:I don't want to insult you, Nancy. But you're assuming scum will kill you when their #1 goal is actually leaving me alive, not killing you.
Well, if you prove them wrong by saving me from the NK, then they can’t obviously.
Again, I'll be on you. When neither of us die, are you going to finally realize I'm town or mislynch me? My guess is you're going to mislynch me. I don't trust you to make the right call, especially not after you mislynched Sajj. So I need to make sure I choose right today.
If Wisdom flips red, I’m obviously lynching random.
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Post Post #4787 (isolation #896) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:10 pm

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In post 4782, the worst wrote:
In post 4781, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4774, the worst wrote:that's kinda unsortable atm

she's realistically NEVER the night kill. scum know you're the obvious night kill so are liable to kill me instead to avoid shooting Shoshin. scum know this so will shoot you to avoid shooting me.

iocaine powder comes from Australia etc. etc.

if town: Shoshin doesn't necessarily believe she can correctly guess the night kill.

if scum: Shoshin is just positioning me for a losing mislynch following a wisdom mislynch
How?
How @ which part?
All,of it but specifically the last two.
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Post Post #4798 (isolation #897) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:25 pm

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In post 4788, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4779, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4773, Shoshin wrote:the worst is not partnered with Wisdom or Random or me. That's been established at this point.

The only question left to decide is whether it's Wisdom/Random or solo the worst.
Don’t you get it that if the worst is solo scum, we risk nothing by lynching Wisdom but if Wisdom/random are w/w and you hammer on the worst, we lose the game?
Yes, I understand that. The problem is that you're going to mislynch me tomorrow. Am I wrong about that?
No, because I’m not convinced you are Scum anymore. Scum!Shoshin wouldn’t have tried to stop Sajj mislynch, especially since she was scumreading you at the time. But why does solo scum try to mislynch you? If the worst isn’t partnetrd with random, then why should he not lynch random over you?
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Post Post #4806 (isolation #898) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:35 pm

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In post 4791, the worst wrote:
In post 4774, the worst wrote:that's kinda unsortable atm

she's realistically NEVER the night kill. scum know you're the obvious night kill so are liable to kill me instead to avoid shooting Shoshin. scum know this so will shoot you to avoid shooting me.

iocaine powder comes from Australia etc. etc.

if town: Shoshin doesn't necessarily believe she can correctly guess the night kill.

if scum: Shoshin is just positioning me for a losing mislynch following a wisdom mislynch
In post 4770, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4769, the worst wrote:me/random would have already won via quickhammer.
I need you to explain this more clearly.

How can Shoshin possibly be worried about being mislynched, when I am the obvious NK and if she is bg, she dies in my place. Am I missing something @Shoshin?
^ @Nancy, this was in response to your question (quotes in wrong order sorry)
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Post Post #4808 (isolation #899) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:36 pm

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In post 4806, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4791, the worst wrote:
In post 4774, the worst wrote:that's kinda unsortable atm

she's realistically NEVER the night kill. scum know you're the obvious night kill so are liable to kill me instead to avoid shooting Shoshin. scum know this so will shoot you to avoid shooting me.

iocaine powder comes from Australia etc. etc.

if town: Shoshin doesn't necessarily believe she can correctly guess the night kill.

if scum: Shoshin is just positioning me for a losing mislynch following a wisdom mislynch
In post 4770, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4769, the worst wrote:me/random would have already won via quickhammer.
I need you to explain this more clearly.

How can Shoshin possibly be worried about being mislynched, when I am the obvious NK and if she is bg, she dies in my place. Am I missing something @Shoshin?
^ @Nancy, this was in response to your question (quotes in wrong order sorry)
I need you to,explain this more clearly.
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Post Post #4813 (isolation #900) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:40 pm

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In post 4801, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4798, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:No, because I’m not convinced you are Scum anymore. Scum!Shoshin wouldn’t have tried to stop Sajj mislynch, especially since she was scumreading you at the time. But why does solo scum try to mislynch you? If the worst isn’t partnetrd with random, then why should he not lynch random over you?
Why does solo scum try to mislynch me? Because scum wins by mislynching.

If the worst is solo scum, it's a lot easier to mislynch me than Wisdom or Random. Like, think about it. Who would solo scum want around in 3-way LYLO? Me. I'm the easiest player to mislynch in this group of players.
Do you think Wisdom/random have villagery motivations to mislynch you?
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Post Post #4815 (isolation #901) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:44 pm

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In post 4810, the worst wrote:@Nancy my post 4774 was in response to your question about Shoshin being concerned with being mislynched
I need a link please.
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Post Post #4818 (isolation #902) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:46 pm

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In post 4816, the worst wrote:ok Nancy let's make a deal
What kind of deal?
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Post Post #4821 (isolation #903) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:48 pm

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In post 4815, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4810, the worst wrote:@Nancy my post 4774 was in response to your question about Shoshin being concerned with being mislynched
I need a link please.
I still don’t understand your post.
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Post Post #4826 (isolation #904) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:51 pm

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In post 4820, the worst wrote:I'd rather lose to Wisdom and Rando than lose to Shoshin so hammer me
if we don't instantly lose (well played dudes) just lynch Shoshin tomorrow
I don’t want to lose . . . Period.
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Post Post #4835 (isolation #905) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:02 pm

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Shoshin , what if I tell you that I fully intend to vote Wisdom because of the 4 scum possibllity. I don’t want to,risk losing the game if Wisdom/random are w/w together.

So if you want to vote the worst and you’re wrong we will lose. However if we vote out Wisdom, we still have a shot.
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Post Post #4836 (isolation #906) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:04 pm

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In post 4834, the worst wrote:Shoshin you're clearly pushing for my lynch here. hammer me. :]
I should have hammered earlier. Now we are going to lose the game. :facepalm:
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Post Post #4838 (isolation #907) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:12 pm

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In post 4837, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, you should vote Wisdom because that's obviously the correct move for you. Again, for me, the correct move is making the right choice between Wisdom and the worst. I'm not thinking that through, so please allow me the time and space to think about it. I didn't rush you, don't rush me.
I’m not rushing you but if you were to vote the worst, my vote is irrelevant. It only counts if you vote Wisdom.
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Post Post #4844 (isolation #908) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:23 pm

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In post 4839, the worst wrote:Shoshin you accept I can't be scum with anyone else right
Shoshin is obvtown here. She would have voted without any thought to it like random. Scum don’t drag things out unless it exceeds a deadline, so I think it’s clear that Reality’s scumdoc theory was wrong.

But when you beg her to hammer you, you really worry me, especially saying you’d rather lose to Wisdom/random than her. How does that remotely make any sense? I understand you’re really frustrated but begging her to hammer you is not pro-town unless of course you are scum and I don’t think you are.

While Shoshin’s solo scum argument for you does make logical sense, so does a very clear town argument because it is clearly in town’s best interest to lynch Wisdom due to the possible 4 scum theory. So, despite Shoshin’s solo scum theory. Your lynching Wisdom theory is also clearly pro-town.
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Post Post #4847 (isolation #909) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 4840, the worst wrote:it's mechanically better for town!you to remove the {Wisdom, rando} possibility from existence. it's mechanically better for scum!you to stall the fuck outta this day so we all get exhausted and you'll know where to push tomorrow. this isn't a good look.
No, that’s not true unless she plans to exceed the deadline and as frustrating and annoying as it is, we aren’t there yet. Perhaps, you need to get some rest. I think,you’re so upset rn, you may say something you’ll/we’ll all regret later.

I almost hamered due to emotions, you have to keep a clear head abf yes I know it’s not easy. But do whatever you need to see things clearly and objectively. I have faith in you. *hugs*
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Post Post #4851 (isolation #910) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:36 pm

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In post 4846, Shoshin wrote:It's nice to hear you say that I'm obvtown finally but I don't believe it at this point, no offense. Don't trust anyone but myself in this game, very unusual for me to do as town but it's just how this game shook out, unfortunately.
I don’t expect you too but unless you know for certain that thr worst is scum and that Wisdom and random are town, we will lose the game. If you vote the worst, my vote doesn’t mater. It only counts if you vote Wisdom. And like I said, if there are 4 scum in the game, unless you believe that the worst and random are w/w, you need to vote Wisdom.
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Post Post #4852 (isolation #911) » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:38 pm

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In post 4850, Wisdom wrote:unless its just random and ive been a massive idiot
I wish that the worst had gladiated random over you. That would have been an easier choice but it is what it is.
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Post Post #4892 (isolation #912) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:57 am

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I want to see how random reacts to Wsdom didtancing him but I probably won’t get the chance.

Shishin, I will not be voting you irrespective of the flip and you know you can trust this because I have no reason to say this now, other then it’s the truth.

Because of the 4 scum possibllity, I have to vote Wisdom. If he flips red, I 100% will lynch random. If he flips green, I will lynch whomever survives between random and the worst. Game solved. Easy.


@randomidget , your absence from this thread is extremely suspect. If we could vote random today, the game would probably end.
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Post Post #4893 (isolation #913) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:03 am

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In post 4892, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I want to see how random reacts to Wsdom didtancing him but I probably won’t get the chance.

Shishin, I will not be voting you irrespective of the flip and you know you can trust this because I have no reason to say this now, other then it’s the truth.

Because of the 4 scum possibllity, I have to vote Wisdom. If he flips red, I 100% will lynch random. If he flips green, I will lynch whomever survives between random and the worst. Game solved. Easy.


@randomidget , your absence from this thread is extremely suspect. If we could vote random today, the game would probably end.
If I don’t make it to lylo, Shoshin is town and we will lose the game if she is mislynched. There are some things that are unfakable. No way is Shoshin not town here.
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Post Post #4894 (isolation #914) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:57 am

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The reason I am hesiting with my vote is because I want to ensure that whomever is in LYLO doesn’t mislynch Shoshin and the only person I feel confident not to do that is me.

I want reassurance that whomever is surviving town here, sees what I see. That Shoshin is obvtown. If you don’t, we will lose no matter who I vote for.
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Post Post #4896 (isolation #915) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:13 am

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There is no guarantee I make it to LYLO, do we know for certain that someone doesn’t have a 1-shot roleblock?

If I die, I need to know for certain that whomever is town between the worst/Wisdom and random (unlikely) votes the other one and not Shoshin.

I wish i could vote random today and I don’t know who is scum here. Voting Wisdom obviously makes the most sense.

VOTE: Wisdom
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Post Post #4897 (isolation #916) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:18 am

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In post 4895, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, don't worry. I'm protecting you tonight, so we're either in LYLO together, or I'm dead.
I’m worried about you being mislynched if the other surviving villa - should it not be both of us mislynches you due to possibly having a 1- shot roleblock.

If there isn’t one, we win - slam dunk but if there is one and the other villa cannot see that you have to be town here, we’re screwed.

I know it’s a longshot but it’s impossible.
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Post Post #4898 (isolation #917) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:19 am

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In post 4897, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4895, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, don't worry. I'm protecting you tonight, so we're either in LYLO together, or I'm dead.
I’m worried about you being mislynched if the other surviving villa - should it not be both of us mislynches you due to possibly having a 1- shot roleblock.

If there isn’t one, we win - slam dunk but if there is one and the other villa cannot see that you have to be town here, we’re screwed.

I know it’s a longshot but it’s impossible.
I mean scum having the roleblock.
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Post Post #4899 (isolation #918) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:21 am

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In post 4895, Shoshin wrote:Nancy, don't worry. I'm protecting you tonight, so we're either in LYLO together, or I'm dead.
If you’re dead, who do I lynch? I think probably random.
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Post Post #4902 (isolation #919) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:37 am

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In post 4900, Shoshin wrote:Tough call.

I don't know.
I like most of what he said but the whole, I’d rather lose to Wisdom than you really pinged me. Also that Chick comment I keep mentioning about “scum wifom” about one of the underground peops being scum.

I don’t know if this is random’s scum meta or not but obviously CS thought so. Did he ever elaborate on this?

Rn, I think random has higher scum equity than the worst but if Wisdom flips red, no way is it not random.

If Wisdom flips green , then I dunno. I think analyzing the gamestate, the worst is more likely to be town, so I’d probably lynch random over the worst.

random: possible scum-scum neighbour with Chick

Wise man, probable fakeclaim for Jareth
Plus all of the other reasons you already gave.
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Post Post #4903 (isolation #920) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:39 am

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In post 4901, Shoshin wrote:I think Random has been by far the scummiest player in this game when it comes to behaviors/associations.

I think the worst hasn't been nearly as towny as people say he is when town. And I question whether there's any thought process behind half the things he says, which makes me question whether he's actually town.

Do you lynch the scummiest player or the player who you expected to be more towny as town? I don't know.
Chick’s flavour was the hat, which is connected to Wise man/Jareth.

The worst’s is Didymus - no connection to Chick.
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Post Post #4904 (isolation #921) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:43 am

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In post 4903, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4901, Shoshin wrote:I think Random has been by far the scummiest player in this game when it comes to behaviors/associations.

I think the worst hasn't been nearly as towny as people say he is when town. And I question whether there's any thought process behind half the things he says, which makes me question whether he's actually town.

Do you lynch the scummiest player or the player who you expected to be more towny as town? I don't know.
Chick’s flavour was the hat, which is connected to Wise man/Jareth.

The worst’s is Didymus - no connection to Chick.

In the Labrynth, Jareth first visits Sarah in the guise of an owl.

Owl=wise man, plus the wise man has a bird on its hat I believe.

So flavour wise, random has both a much greater chance of both being connected to Chick and being Jareth than the worst does.
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Post Post #4907 (isolation #922) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:53 am

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In post 4905, Shoshin wrote:the worst has been very scummy today and yesterday. His progression on Sajj makes no sense, and I feel like everything he did today was very much geared towards pocketing you in a way that didn't feel genuine at all. Even if he's town, I don't think it's genuine (no offense).

I don't know about characters. Like, it's just too much speculation.
I’ve been paying a lot of attention to flavour and ever scum fake claim had a direct connection to the real one. If random is scum, his flavour is Jareth and he is connected to Chick because she is the hat that both the wise man and Jareth wears.

Plus, sine Reality and Wheme are both tvt neighbours, it’s quite likely that random is a scum neighbour along with Chick but I do see your point, him wanting to lose to Wisdom over you made no sense.

I don’t think he was buddying me though. We are friends outside of this game.

What worries me is if he thought his game was over due to you obvtowning it. That’s the part I’m having trouble reconciling.
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Post Post #4909 (isolation #923) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:57 am

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In post 4906, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1912, Chickadee wrote:Random is most likely scum for the creature thing
Chick says this on D3. Then on D4, she says Random is scummy but there's better lynches, and she votes me.

I'm the one pointing out that Random is scum because of his interactions with Creature.

So, you have Chick saying that Random is scum because of things I've said, but then voting me.

We could probably lynch Random for that alone. When you add in the stuff from D1 and D2 regarding Creature, as well as his unnatural hostility towards Nico, plus lurking the game out and overall apathy, mislynching Angel and Sajj, and generally doing nothing towny, I'd say it's hard to make any sort of case that Random is town.
Yeah. Also, he has mysteriously disappeared from the thread. He might be w/w with Wisdom or just voted the worst because he knew Wisdom would lynch the worst over him.
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Post Post #4911 (isolation #924) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:04 am

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In post 4908, Shoshin wrote:That's the nature of effective buddying - the person buddied can't see it.
No, I honestly disagree with that part. The worst is not that ruthless to toy with my feelings like that. That doesn’t make him town, just that I view that as NAI. He knew I was genuinely upset. He is not the kind of person to manipulate a friend to that extent.

The other stuff is not off the table. That’s why I need to know if he is still scumreading you and not realized that you are onvtown but hopefully either Wisdom flip should be informative or we both make it to LYLO.
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Post Post #4913 (isolation #925) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:08 am

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In post 4910, Shoshin wrote:I think you raise some good points about flavor. It's not my preferred source of evidence but I agree that it points to Random.
Plus he knew Nico was a hard claimed cop when he was pushing on him. He only backed off of him, because I said that voting for her was a scum claim.

I probably would have been far less resistant to scumreading random if it weren’t for our hood. Maybe our hood wasn’t an accident?
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #926) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:14 am

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In post 4912, Shoshin wrote:I doubt we both make it to LYLO anymore. We would have if you kept saying you scumread me, but not with this townread lol
Yeah but that’s far more likely if random is the last scum. So it will be me random, the worst. Let’s hope Wisdom does flip red because then it will be a slam dunk.

I will have to evaluate them carefully but random wanted to vote you over Chick and the worst unvoted you and this was when Wisdom was still townreading him.
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Post Post #4916 (isolation #927) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:19 am

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In post 4914, Shoshin wrote:I don't get what he did in the hood to make you townread him, so I can't speak to that.
Well I’ve already explained that numerous times. He acted engaged, sincere, forthcoming and helpful.

But Reality’s read on the worst changed after the underground.

Plus it really bothers me how quickly random voted for the worst. It was LYLO and he shouldn’t have rushed his vote - whether he and Wisdom are w/w or not. I think rushing the vote wasn’t villagery,
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Post Post #4918 (isolation #928) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:33 am

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In post 4917, Shoshin wrote:Random's been playing that way all game, no inkling of ever second-guessing anything.
He hesitated on Chick vote but I think it’s pretty damn obvious, he really preferred you.
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Post Post #4931 (isolation #929) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:36 pm

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In post 4927, RadiantCowbells wrote:No one has died!
In post 4929, the worst wrote:bahahahaha

ok so it's just rando right
I think he’s given up on this game. Yep. Wisdom flip = easy win. Lol.
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Post Post #4933 (isolation #930) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:37 pm

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VOTE: randomidget
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Post Post #4934 (isolation #931) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:39 pm

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In post 4932, the worst wrote:I don't have many smug moments but like

do you think this is the #1 best gladiate in the history of mafia? :lol:
Yeah seemed so. Like, all we need now is for @Shoshin to hammer and it’s the easiest LYLO ever.
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Post Post #4936 (isolation #932) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:43 pm

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We’re all GOATS. *high-five in advance*
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Post Post #4937 (isolation #933) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:56 pm

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Post Post #4939 (isolation #934) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:22 pm

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In post 4938, the worst wrote:Image




after all this if shoshin is scum i'll cry
No LOL, that’s impossible. Actually the best gladiate would have been random, Because according to Wisdom’s role flip, he gets endgamed if his team dies, so had we lynched random instead of Wisdom, the game would have already ended.
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Post Post #4942 (isolation #935) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:34 pm

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In post 4941, the worst wrote:nokill spews Shoshin town btw
Well, I could have told you that before Wisdom flip, like it was blatantly obvious - so obvious in fact, that I was seriously woried about a 1-shot role block, plus flavour spews random=Jareth. random’s wise man fakeclaim is directly linked to Chick’s hat fakeclaim.

But yeah had you not gladiated, we would have mislynched Shoshin and lost.

I’m dying to see his flip.
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Post Post #4944 (isolation #936) » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:41 pm

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In post 4943, the worst wrote:actually honestly rando's actions yesterday are even scummier knowing that he didn't know 100% that Wisdom was his traitor
You mean him taking like two seconds to decide to mislynch you?
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Post Post #4947 (isolation #937) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:28 am

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\o/

MOST.SATISFYING.WIN.EVER!!!
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Post Post #4948 (isolation #938) » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:31 am

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@RadiantCowbells , I think that’s a hammer.
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Post Post #4974 (isolation #939) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:26 am

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In post 4951, RadiantCowbells wrote:Randomidget has been lynched! He was
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Love me, fear me, do as I say and I will be your slave, Sarah.


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David Bowie (Dreaming God): At the start of each day, including Day 1, you must sing a song. Your choices are Underground, Magic Dance, As the World Falls Down, and Within You. You don't know what they do.
Message in an Orb (Messenger): Three times per day/night cycle you may send a player a message of up to 140 characters. They will know it comes from you.
Neighbour (Neighbour): You are in a neighbourhood that can be found here.

You win when the Goblins have sent all of the Town to the oubliette or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Your fakeclaim is as follows:


The way forward is sometimes the way back.


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Man & Hat (Neighbour): You are in a neighbourhood that can be found here.

You win when all the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.


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So, had enough, eh? All right then, throw down your weapons, and I'll see that you're well-treated.


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Honorable Combat (1-Shot Gladiator): Once per game, you may challenge someone to a duel, locking votes between the two of you.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.


Nancy Drew 39 survives. She was
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Ludo sad.


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Whinnnneeee.


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Lololol, I knew random was Jareth.
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Post Post #4975 (isolation #940) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:31 am

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In post 4962, Scioness Sajj wrote:GG guys, thanks for hosting RC
Sorry for hammering you. Not one of my proudest moments. :oops:
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Post Post #4976 (isolation #941) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:36 am

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In post 4966, Commander Shepard wrote:Gg all I am okay with releasing PTs

And I lied to Shoshin I didn’t trust you at all. The claim was sketchy as fuck. I am quite surprised you were town. And that site rule is there for a reason.
What site rule?

I actually disagree it was sketchy - it would depend on when she revealed it: before or after Nico flip.

Before: not sketchy at all; after: meh
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Post Post #4977 (isolation #942) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:37 am

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In post 4970, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 4969, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4966, Commander Shepard wrote:Gg all I am okay with releasing PTs

And I lied to Shoshin I didn’t trust you at all. The claim was sketchy as fuck. I am quite surprised you were town. And that site rule is there for a reason.
I realize you lied to me... but it's okay... you didn't trust I was town, I didn't trust you to lynch scum...

What site rule?

That if bodyguards don’t die protecting PRs they are scum.
Are you unaware of the macho modifier?
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Post Post #4978 (isolation #943) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:39 am

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In post 4972, Ankamius wrote:I will go into my thoughts later

But Shoshin, you were wrong. We would have likely won faster if you died night 3
I agree with this because had you died D3, your random suspicions would have been taken far more seriously.
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Post Post #4979 (isolation #944) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:47 am

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In post 4973, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4972, Ankamius wrote:I will go into my thoughts later

But Shoshin, you were wrong. We would have likely won faster if you died night 3
Doubtful. Look at how this played out.

We mislynched once after D3, on Sajj. If Nancy hadn't accidentally hammered, maybe we don't mislynch at all. Either way, the result isn't bad. After N3, we lynched 3 scum and 1 town. That's a fast win by any measure.

If I had died N3, would town have mislynched Sajj? Probably yes, because she was Shepard's top suspect and you specifically said she was scum if I flipped town. You add in Sajj's lie, Wheme's whimsical vote, Nancy's accidental hammer, etc. and Sajj is almost certainly mislynched again. And it'd be disingenuous for you to say in hindsight that you wouldn't have mislynched Sajj when that was who you expressly wanted to lynch.

You also said Random/Wisdom were obvtown and that Wheme was the last scum if both myself and Sajj flip town. That doesn't give me any assurance that we would have won "faster," if anything it worries me that we would have lost. If I die N3, scum kill Shepard/Nancy on N4 & N5, leaving you, Random, Wisdom, Wheme, and the worst in LYLO. Given what you said about Wheme, why should anyone believe we even win if I die N3?

I let Shepard die to keep my voice in the game, and while that might run against your theory of how mafia or bodyguard is supposed to be played, the results speak for themselves.
Maybe you’re right but your reaction at the time to CS’s death and overreaction on Angel was a big part of what made people suspicious of you. Also, CS would have also pushed random lynch and would have likely gotten it. Yes, you hands down, had the best scumhunting instincts of anyone in the game and you 100% deserve credit for that but your constant let’s lynch random posts, actually had the opposite effect. Although if I was in another game with you, I’d obviously view that differently.
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Post Post #4981 (isolation #945) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:50 am

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In post 4968, NicoRobin wrote:I actually knew Angel was town since N2.....but couldn't tell you because dead....
I wish you had investigated TPF instead of me, since I was so obvtown, scum chose to redirect me over anyone else in the game.
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Post Post #4982 (isolation #946) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:56 am

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In post 4980, Shoshin wrote:
In post 4978, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 4972, Ankamius wrote:I will go into my thoughts later

But Shoshin, you were wrong. We would have likely won faster if you died night 3
I agree with this because had you died D3, your random suspicions would have been taken far more seriously.
I doubt it. You didn't trust Nico on Random after she died, you didn't trust Shepard on Random after he died, and you ultimately didn't trust Reality on Random/Wisdom after she died. So why would you have trusted trusted me?

In general, dying means your reads get ignored... that's been my experience in most games... unless you have a strong reputation for good reads, which I don't have because nobody has played with me before...

This is one of those games where only a few of the very best players will be able to appreciate my play because most others can't get past a stilted theory about how bodyguard is supposed to work.

Considering how misguided both you and Ank were reads-wise, I think maybe instead of blaming me for your bad reads you should take this opportunity to learn from where you went wrong.
I would have trusted your reads because CS would have continued to push random. As I said befire, it was mostly your reaction to his death and not your decision to not protect him, that made me scumread you. Scumreading you because of that made me think random was town. You can argue all you want about how ridiculous you think that is but I was hardtown reading you until that point.
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Post Post #4983 (isolation #947) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:57 am

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In post 4964, Wisdom wrote:given the cards i was dealt, I think i did the best i could
traitor sucks. I couldn't bus random, and i had no say in the nightkills. I wasn't lying that id never make those kills.
Even so, i think that was easily a win until tw gladiated me, so good job tw.
gg
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Post Post #4984 (isolation #948) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:01 am

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In post 4959, TehBrawlGuy wrote:
In post 4958, the worst wrote:it surprised me too tbqh but when I reread your ISO it did make a bit of sense (you were one of the townier players, and there was a lot of value in keeping the WIFOM of the underground hood alive for d2). I was so so sad when I saw the flip though. what a badass power.
i knoooooow

it is one of the coolest powers i've ever gotten outside a bastard game
It’s one of the coolest roles ever. The worst was right, you obviously got strongmanned. I wish @Creature , @Chicadee , @randomidget would weigh in on this.
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Post Post #4985 (isolation #949) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:03 am

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Anyway, gg everyone. @the worst - GOAT.

Thanks RC for hosting one of the coolest games ever. Please prein me for the next one.
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Post Post #4989 (isolation #950) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:26 am

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In post 4986, Wisdom wrote:from one point of view its probably fair this scumteam didnt win
I think being a traitor is worse than SK almost. I played in a game where half of the scum didn’t know their teammates.
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Post Post #4999 (isolation #951) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:20 am

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In post 4992, RadiantCowbells wrote:like idk as the mod you guys berating the person who caught the scum team d2 because they didn't suicide to protect a person whose reads were all dead wrong seems pretty silly to me

think a lot of this is just you all siding against shoshin because she's an outsider relatively
I’m not berating her. I fully acknowledged that she had the best scumhunting instincts bar none. I don’t hold it against her that she didn’t protect CS, rather her reaction to his death. When she expressed her anger at him.policy lynching her - as totally justified as it may have been, it just wasn’t AGL at the time, IMO. I also thought her reaction to someone who BOTH by role and play was toxic and anti-town was over the top. Fortunately, the worst and me, had serious misgivings about Reality’s highly questionable scumdoc theory ahd her laying into me prior to the worst gladiating Wisdom didn’t do her any favours, so it’ not as black and white as either you and Reality make it is my point.

I agree that Reality hurt town by hard defending TPF, trying to delay Creature lynch, pushing Shoshin lynch D2 and insisting on us following her scumdoc theory. I also think her telling us to lynch Sajj, played right into scum’s hands but tbf to her, Sajj also did herself no favours about lying about it not being a 1-shot and I was stupid to hammer. \_0_/
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Post Post #5001 (isolation #952) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:30 am

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In post 4998, RadiantCowbells wrote:Math that's not a site rule and if she had died for you town would have lost this I am almost certain.
Math? Don’t you mean CS? Okay, tethinking it, it’s a damn good thing she didn’t protect CS but my argument about her reactions - as justified as they may have been - neverthrless came off really wolfy - especially the policy lynch thing. The way way she expressed it made it as the worst said, “survivalist”. @Shoshin , I swear I’m not trying to come doxn on you here. What I’m saying is you feeling justified in your reactions doesn’t necessarily translate to how that reaction gets read because, we didn’t know that you were town saying that, only you did but yes, you are hands down the true scumhunting god of this game and should we ever play together, I will put a lot more stock in your brilliant reads.
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Post Post #5011 (isolation #953) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:03 am

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In post 5007, RadiantCowbells wrote:Frankly shoshin was obviously town from early on in the same vein as Nancy Drew. If you guys could Lynch scioness who was the vig for a reason as bad as you did why should shoshin have trusted you.
She shouldn’t have after that. I was townreading her D1, 2, 3 but - irrespective of how judtified she felt, I didn’t like her reactions to both Angel and CS. I may be wrong in retrospect but being aware of how you’re getting read isn’t unimportant, it’s critical, so RC you can criticize us all you want for that but you can’t ignore that fact.

Anyone who reads random and my PT, will see that I was chomping at the bit to lynch Reality before she claimed. I found much of her play in this game to be uberwolfy and I completely disagree that Reality was a part of a strong town block until she claimed. I would just as strongly disagree with her that the worst wasn’t. Commander Shephard clearly thought thid, otherwise he never would have neighbourized him N3.

I only had any doubts on the worst after a few of his comments to Shoshin about rather losing to Wisdom than her. Shoshin was my #1 townread after gladiate and before Wisdom flip. So, I think Reality should be the last player in this game, to school Shoshin on how to not look wolfy. If Angel had not been so over the top wolfy on D3, I might have mislynched Reality for both aggressively trying to delay Creature lynch and pushing Shoshin.
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Post Post #5012 (isolation #954) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:05 am

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In post 5011, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5007, RadiantCowbells wrote:Frankly shoshin was obviously town from early on in the same vein as Nancy Drew. If you guys could Lynch scioness who was the vig for a reason as bad as you did why should shoshin have trusted you.
She shouldn’t have after that. I was townreading her D1, 2, 3 but - irrespective of how judtified she felt, I didn’t like her reactions to both Angel and CS. I may be wrong in retrospect but being aware of how you’re getting read isn’t unimportant, it’s critical, so RC you can criticize us all you want for that but you can’t ignore that fact.

Anyone who reads random and my PT, will see that I was chomping at the bit to lynch Reality before she claimed. I found much of her play in this game to be uberwolfy and I completely disagree that Reality was a part of a strong town block until she claimed. I would just as strongly disagree with her that the worst wasn’t. Commander Shephard clearly thought thid, otherwise he never would have neighbourized him N3.

I only had any doubts on the worst after a few of his comments to Shoshin about rather losing to Wisdom than her. Shoshin was my #1 townread after gladiate and before Wisdom flip. So, I think Reality should be the last player in this game, to school Shoshin on how to not look wolfy. If Angel had not been so over the top wolfy on D3, I might have mislynched Reality for both aggressively trying to delay Creature lynch and pushing Shoshin.
P.edit derail not delay and on D2.
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Post Post #5019 (isolation #955) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 5009, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like

You have a nightkill voyeured as being protected and you are still calling them scum with no known way for scum to have predicted the voyeur

That's not on shoshin..
Yes, I think that’s why the worst and me were hesitant to lynch Shoshin on D4, we were both having serious qualms about Realiity’s out there scumdoc theory. Contrary to your assertion, the theory of scumdoc Shoshin protecting and killing Nico is not at all similar to yours and Mastina’s vig gambit in Minuet. Why? Because you both already KNEW the outcome but you never had a reasonable case how Shoshin could have, so I’m pretty much smacking my head now, how I ever for a second ever fell for this absurd tinfoiling. Has there ever been a game in the entire history of Mafia where this has ever even happened?
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Post Post #5023 (isolation #956) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 5016, MathBlade wrote:I am just glad I hit the worst.

I think even with my wrong read on Shoshin that was the right play.

And if Shoshin died I would have tunneled Random. I was leaning there somewhat
Were you playing in this game under an alt? *seriously confuzzled* :eek:
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Post Post #5028 (isolation #957) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 5021, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5019, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5009, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like

You have a nightkill voyeured as being protected and you are still calling them scum with no known way for scum to have predicted the voyeur

That's not on shoshin..
Yes, I think that’s why the worst and me were hesitant to lynch Shoshin on D4, we were both having serious qualms about Realiity’s out there scumdoc theory. Contrary to your assertion, the theory of scumdoc Shoshin protecting and killing Nico is not at all similar to yours and Mastina’s vig gambit in Minuet. Why? Because you both already KNEW the outcome but you never had a reasonable case how Shoshin could have, so I’m pretty much smacking my head now, how I ever for a second ever fell for this absurd tinfoiling. Has there ever been a game in the entire history of Mafia where this has ever even happened?
Yeah ....one of my worst games ever.
And also a different one that was one of my best.
Oh okay but since Shoshin was nowhere near on the chopping block D2, I should have also discounted this theory. No way was she in any danger of being mislynched on D3 - even if Angel hadn’t been in the game.
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Post Post #5030 (isolation #958) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:29 am

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In post 5026, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5023, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5016, MathBlade wrote:I am just glad I hit the worst.

I think even with my wrong read on Shoshin that was the right play.

And if Shoshin died I would have tunneled Random. I was leaning there somewhat
Were you playing in this game under an alt? *seriously confuzzled* :eek:
^^ Commander Shepard = MathBlade
Oh wow! Me=gobsmacked. :lol:
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Post Post #5034 (isolation #959) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:36 am

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In post 5027, the worst wrote:I think when someone everyone's scumreading flips town it's a signal to hard reset the fuck out of your reads. I'm not sure I totally agree with anyone here but I think there's two totally viable ways to play Shoshin's situation out.

I didn't find her super obvtown early on. there's a really fine line between being obvtown and being tunnelled, and it wasn't a distinction I could make with serious confidence. Actually it was during the 5p when I realised that it was playing out like 2v3 not 1v4 that I realised she was almost certainly town. maybe I'm not good at reading people > gamestates or whatever, take this how you will.

Huge commendations to Shoshin for her read accuracy, though. there's a lot of aspects of being good at town, but read accuracy is a glorious one and your instincts here were dynamite. yeah, I was a little unfair with the way I positioned the rest of the town in the 5p Lylo and probably should have encouraged we all had a rest and a cuppa tea rather than pushing the "she sucks but she's town" narrative. sorry if you took offense at it,
I definitely was sad to see Nancy genuinely offended.




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Post Post #5040 (isolation #960) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:49 am

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In post 5038, Scioness Sajj wrote:yeah, Shoshin deserves credit for this win, her reads were good and she put a lot more effort than we probably deserved.

for what it's worth I don't think not claiming shots was bad decision nor was it incriminating. i didn't really execute it well and got distracted by other things, though.
Your lying about that didn’t help though, I still should never have hammered regardless.
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Post Post #5047 (isolation #961) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 5039, Wisdom wrote:sajj don't be afraid of what town will think of you. That was silly. Just be honest.
Also you should have insisted more about the redirect thing. You were basically conftown yet you got lynched.
Agreed, it would have been a lot more believable than your whole “I lost confidence” thing. Had you done that D3, Reality would have never proposed you as the possible D5 lynch.
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Post Post #5058 (isolation #962) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:15 am

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In post 5050, Wisdom wrote:i still don't get why random kept tw over wheme
Nancy was scumreading both wheme and shoshin, it would just double our possibilities
Not to mention gladiate vs useless voyeur
No it was smart because it helped with the scumdoc WIFOM. I would have been far more suspicious of you, random if Wheme hadn’t died. I doubt that I would have ever even seriously considered mislynching Shoshin otherwise because it either furthered that WIFOM or frame. Killing the worst would have taken suspicion off of Shoshin, because if scumdoc, Wheme was her most logical target.
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Post Post #5093 (isolation #963) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:28 pm

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In post 5092, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5091, Ankamius wrote:
In post 5024, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 5022, Ankamius wrote:I've been in a game where scum had secret access to a neighborhood, Nancy.

Plus I was considering Wheme being scum too.
That was my game
I'm referring to a Skullduggery game
I’ve been a part of so many as scum I have lost count.
Shadowrun
The mini in my sig
Off the top of my head and had a few before those

I was in Undertale that ended up developing one
Ah, so that’s why you’re such an expert on random.
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Post Post #5096 (isolation #964) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:52 pm

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In post 5095, Shoshin wrote:
In post 5089, mastina wrote:
In post 5087, Shoshin wrote:What article?
Well.
In post 3388, Shoshin wrote:It means anything is possible but the basis of decisions should be probabilities, not possibilities.
This is pretty much a direct quote from my article here.

Though less-up-to-date than the wiki version, the original thread can be quoted to show this:
In post 0, mastina wrote:
Basic Thesis:

Mafia thrive on
possibility
; town thrive on
probability
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Everything in the game traces back to this simple belief.

A mafia player thrives on making players think of the unlikely: "What if this player who was investigated by the cop is actually a Godfather? What if the cop claim after the lynch of a Godfather is actually scum fakeclaiming?" These are things that are of course theoretically
possible
, and which vastly favor the scum because they are probably not actually true.

A town player thrives on making reasonably probable conclusions: No, the innocent is not on a Godfather; no, the cop claiming after a Godfather lynch is not scum fakeclaiming. There remains the possibility of being wrong in deductions like this...but sheer statistical numbers are on your side to hold these beliefs, as 90+% of the time you will be right to have held these stances.

I channel the possibilities with a simple, yet versatile, question: "
Which is more likely?
" Which is the most likely to be the case? This is closely tied to Occam's Razor, in that often the most likely possibility is the simplest one requiring the least number of assumptions.

Nothing Is Ever Certain!

You will never have a scumteam which perfectly fits all the data on hand. There will always be something which makes the team not be perfect. There will always be a valid point which keeps a scumteam from being flawless.

Town players will say scummy shit. Scum players will say shit which sounds town. This is a basic truth, universal to any game you will play. Which is stronger depends on the skill of the player in question as an alignment, not to mention the circumstances behind what they are saying. (A statement that is incredibly scummy in one game might be the beacon of towniness in another; similarly, a statement scummy from one player might be a huge towntell coming from a different player.)

However, regardless of how crappy the scum are, or how elite the scum are, or how good the town are, or how shitty the town are: both sides will always contain at least
some
of both. As a result, when weighing evidence, every player will have a possibility of being either alignment.

The job of a town player isn't to see every possibility--
the job of a town player is to figure out which possibility is the most probable.


Explain Using These Terms

You don't have to use the exact language that I use here. But it helps to use the conceptual language here, and lots of us do this already. When we see someone point out something which we find to basically be impossible, we'll call them out on their bullshit and clearly tell them why we feel their theory, while possible, is incredibly improbable.

Be Realistic

In all aspects of your play. You should have in mind at all times what is a realistic scenario and what is unrealistic. But you should also know what you can realistically do, and what you cannot realistically do. For instance, if you're suffering a bad V/LA, you probably shouldn't promise to write a novella on every player in the game because that is almost certainly beyond your realistic capabilities given your circumstances.

Apply Occam's Razor

Use it often. Point out how unlikely combinations are. Point out how many assumptions (especially flawed ones) a theory relies on. Keeping things simple is a guideline I cannot stress the importance of enough in terms of possibilities versus probabilities. Most remote possibilities flagrantly violate Occam's Razor; most probabilities use Occam's Razor.

In Summary:

As town, focus on what is probable rather than what is possible, and look for those who are failing to do so.
(Incidentally, I am absolutely horrendous at being realistic about what I can/can't do, but I am TRYING to get better about it. Trying.)
I wasn't quoting your article but I agree with the basic idea of weighing the evidence to determine what's likely. And in practice, that requires a lot of difficult judgments about how probable different behaviors are. Out of curiosity, are you a lawyer?

Sidenote: I disagree with the idea that it's probable for scum to focus on possibilities more than probabilities. Figuring out what's probable is a bit more complex than that imo (e.g. in this game the townies were the ones coming up with crazy improbable theories, including your partner Ank).
While that’s true in this case, in general it’s not.
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Post Post #5098 (isolation #965) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:19 am

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@RadiantCowbells, when are we going to be able to see the PTs or scumchat?
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Post Post #5145 (isolation #966) » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 5143, Porkens wrote:
In post 5124, Shoshin wrote:Anyone have any guess what I do?

Russian spy?
In post 5144, Porkens wrote:
In post 5133, Shoshin wrote:I'm a yoga teacher.
Oh close :mrgreen:
:lol:

Why did you and random out your hood? Mechanically, it wasn’t necessary and served no purpose.
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Post Post #5147 (isolation #967) » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 5146, Ankamius wrote:Did any of the neighborhoods and other PTs ever get released?

I still want the Voyeur one released : (
I don’t think so. I’d like to see ALL of them get released, particularly scum chat.

I would really like to know why scum specifically targeted me and Saj for redirecting action.
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Post Post #5152 (isolation #968) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:22 pm

Post by Nancy Drew 39 »

In post 5150, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pts are being opened
\o/

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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
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Post Post #5153 (isolation #969) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 5151, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually given that I never requested permissions, 24 hours to withdraw consent for PT opening.
You have mine, 100%. :)
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
~Taly
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #970) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:28 pm

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In post 5154, Porkens wrote:curious what you discover ;)
:lol:

I’m up for anything. :wink:
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
~Taly
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