Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[Michael Scott]

someone gets it

Yes. If you're town, your play was hyper incompetent and dumb.
If you're scum, your play wasn't.
You're not dumb.

Ergo, you're scum.

[Clemency]

lmao

[Michael Scott]

OK is VERY UNLIKELY scum because he does not have this fear. This is the ultimate tell in this setup because it is all-or-nothing.

I had to solve for one scum out of three suspects.
0verki11 said "I'm fine being the lynch for PoE"
I assumed it would never come from newbie scum, but guess what, 0verki11 was scum in that game. Newbie 1896.

He's capable of making that tell. It's well within his scumrange, Lolwagons.

[Michael Scott]

I think OKs willingness to TR me makes him likely to be town (he isn’t setting up mislynches by trying to throw shade on me)

He doesn't need to. After a ML you become "let obvious scum" from his PoV so he doesn't need to posture. His scummates would do the job for him.

[Michael Scott]

I dont.
I lose if your ego is hurt though
But hey, you're good. Source: you. So it must be me

Source: All the other town games I’ve played, soon to be including this one

You underestimate me, pal

[Michael Scott]

If Lolwagons was scum, he doesn't focus on lynching VTs here after I state it's optimal play to lynch me and then Clem, *unless* he's scum with Clem.

The correct strategy in that case *is* to redirect from a lynch on me to a town lynch and hope that he doesn't get lynched D2. Lolwagons is capable of this, although it isn't scum indicative.

However, Clem directly postured towards Lolwagons being my partner and hence the lynch right after hammer; this negates the chance that Lol himself can be. If Lolwagons is, indeed, scum with Clem and Muh, I'll gladly lose there because the scumteam's play has been pretty brilliant.

[Michael Scott]

town lynch and hope that he doesn't get lynched D2.

Vanilla town* lynch, sorry.

[Clemency]

dude i wish i was scum this game
my scumgame is not nearly this good

[Michael Scott]

UNVOTE:

instantly asked to replace in once i saw the shitwagon on obvtown MS

so what's going on

^Town indicative for RR.
Scum RR, knowing that one of the heads is Auro, uses a meta argument to scumread me, and reaps absolutely zero benefit in TRing me when my lynch implies a Clem lynch.

RR is probs town. Or scum taking a convoluted route when half the town is derping, which is unlikely.

[Clemency]

fucking lmao
okay

[Michael Scott]

dude i wish i was scum this game
my scumgame is not nearly this good

It wasn't this game, sorry
Your agenda was hyper-transparent throughout, and your failure to give a logical response to any of the arguments any reasonable person is putting across, is poor scumplay. Your posturing towards Lolwagons post-lynch removed any paranoia I had about the slot.

[Clemency]

so let me get this right
town
-everyone supporting you
scum/dumb
-everyone not supporting you

[Michael Scott]

Although if you're scum with Lolwagons here, yeah, I will admit your scumgame was pretty great. So there's that.

Pedit: Nah.
Anyone using logic = Not dumb
Anyone responding to all gamesolving/logical posts with "lmao" or "this is scum" = Dumb or scum

[Michael Scott]

Go ahead and give town a few logical counterarguments to mine.
Lolwagons disagreed with me on Dong. Am I calling that dumb? Nah

[Clemency]

it's fine
dong flipping town is all the proof i'll need

[Michael Scott]

Sure - why am I not scum with 0verki11 in this scenario?

[Michael Scott]

I mean the answer isn't too hard to think about. Just wanna see you gamesolve, bud

[Clemency]

my methods are an enigma

[Michael Scott]

Funnily, Clem's openwolfing makes me wonder if he is indeed Lol's partner and doing this just so I lock Lol.

I just want to lynch Clem now, I know lynching a VT after a VT lynch is optimal but Clem's suuuuuuuuuuper scummy and that outweighs any mechanical reasons to me, and I don't want the off chance that Lol is scum with him. Idk. What do you guys think?

@Volxen, McQueen, Red

[Michael Scott]

0verkitten, what do you think of Clemency's play? Tell me who's scummier amongst the lovers.

[LolWagons]

Fuck no, we are not lynching outside OK and I tomorrow. I’ll type out a damn Grapes of Wrath length post explaining why if I have to.

I thought for sure you were town because I didn’t see that kind of wagon forming on mafia in this setup (quick, poorly-reasoned, L-1) and I really didn’t think someone would townread me that early and then suggest to lynch from VTs if they were scum.

But you didn’t push Overkill and capitulated to Dong and now you’re trying to lynch outside of OK?

[Michael Scott]

But you didn’t push Overkill and capitulated to Dong and now you’re trying to lynch outside of OK?

I was pushing 0verki11 all along. I was sleeping when you guys hammered Dong without me.

~J

[yessiree]

By my mental count. Dongempire is lynched.

Dongempire - Lolwagons, 0verk1ll, Michael Scott, clemency, bambi jay

Dongempire was a VT

[Michael Scott]

Fuck no, we are not lynching outside OK and I tomorrow. I’ll type out a damn Grapes of Wrath length post explaining why if I have to.

Can you make a case for why you can't be partners with Clem?

[yessiree]

Day 2 begins. Deadline in 10 days.

With 8 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch