Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[Bambi Jay]

Does this mean we get to shitpost until then...?

[Bambi Jay]

It's not flaming shit at all. It's explosive shit. A culanary art.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Michael Scott

You know what you did.

[Bambi Jay]

Bambi, just give good ol' Date Mike a chance. I promise you'll love me if you just give me a chance!

- Date Mike

This feels like it's gonna go somewhere not safe for work with a name like "date mike". And not the consensual kind.

[Bambi Jay]

We should see what happens when we lynch someone in the pre-game. I dont think it's been done before.

"In an extreme turn of events, town wins before day 1 even happens!"

The Mafia Discussion forum will have a field day with this.

[Bambi Jay]

Preferably we have 5 votes from 5 different people.

[Bambi Jay]

So you read the open setup discussion. Woohoo.

[Bambi Jay]

Anyone got an idea for an interesting and unique pagetop?

[Bambi Jay]

Guys. Speed massclaim.
Hard claiming Town Lover pair with McQueen.

We'll have two true VT claims and a fake one. We just pick two to lynch, 66% win.

Not even waiting for McQueen to appear? Wow, so cold.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah Michael's trying to hard to control this game so imma ignore him for now. Probably scum, but I'll see what else we got.

[Bambi Jay]

I have a minion that gets to freely reveal who they are when they need/want too. Screw off Mike.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah, pocketing/working with Lolwagons and crapping on me. Very Fricken townie.

[Bambi Jay]

66 percent town win chance if we don't have scum leading the vote on which VT to lynch. Which you could be.

[Bambi Jay]

I have a minion that gets to freely reveal who they are when they need/want too. Screw off Mike.

Second verse, same as the first.

[Bambi Jay]

This game already is going a way I don't like, but I guess that's for me in the morning to deal with. Bambi needs her beauty sleep.

[Bambi Jay]

If you cant tell by my interractions already who it is, then obviously you weren't paying attention.

[Bambi Jay]

And if anyone else here is going to claim town lover, you should immediately list who your partner is at the time that you claim.

- Date Mike

I hardclaim town lovers with Bambi Jay.

0verki11, who are you lovers with?

town lovers with uh, whats his face

muh316
thats the one

Yeah, I'm a lover with Michael Scott.

This is Fricken why I didnt feel like having everyone claim immediately. 3 lover pairs. Sigh.

Egix96 - Bambi Jay
Michael Scott - McQueen
Clemency - muh316

[Bambi Jay]

And I wanted to see nobody claim lover immediately so we can see multiple associations and not just let scum get away with an easy partner.

If we DIDN'T claim, we could have saw people working together that weren't lovers and find a trio instead of a duo.

[Bambi Jay]

But how can scum not anticipate it if you literally come in swinging as scum and make it your goal?

I either dont trust you and McQueen or Clem and meh. You seem too try hard this game.

[Bambi Jay]

It's also the boring way. You should know by now I like to lynch the guy who tries to use "logic" the most. Scum can use logic too.

[Bambi Jay]

I think Michael has some good points here tbh

You're a shitty partner. Real partners are just supposed to agree with me.

Just because he's correct doesn't mean he's right.

[Bambi Jay]

i think michael's way of doing things is boring and boring people smell

See, you get me Clem. You always do.

VOTE: Michael

We can still win by hanging any scum lover. I think this seems more fun.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm leaning LoLwagons with how agreeable they are with you. So we just need one of the real vts and me and Clem's partners and we win this day 1.

[Bambi Jay]

Consiricy theory: they saw they had McQueen as a partner, decided he was the weakest scum, so the put Michael (Auro/Volxen) with him and having LoLwagon as a supporting scum to lynch the real VTs.

Why else would they want to only lynch the VTs when there are 3 lover pairs? He's getting us to murder our own VTs for him. Fuck that.

End this game and this tyranny. Kill the Michael.

[Bambi Jay]

Because 100% scum victory with you leading the charge.

[Bambi Jay]

Dongempire and Overkill. One of you get your asses here and vote Michael. We know Lol won't he's his scumpartner. And hopefully my minion/partner gets off their ass and votes as well.

[Bambi Jay]

this game is big dumb doodoo

Vote dong with me arch nemesis

i can do that, arch nemesis

Maybe using the "conf!bias" that Michael likes to use shows his scumparter trying to buy you to kill dongempire. Such scum. Much evil.

[Bambi Jay]

Much salt. Such fun.

[Bambi Jay]

Tell Lolwagon to get outta your scumchat and help you already. Make it more interesting.

Pedit: Well obvious itd have to be Clem and meh if you flip town. But you won't.

[Bambi Jay]

Oh look Lolwagon appeared 2 minutes after I called them out.

1 is nothing, 2 is coincidence, 3 is a conspiracy, 4 is an omen. Guess which one they are.

[Bambi Jay]

If we lynch a vt next it's literally gamethrowing because there's only 2 lovers. If we lynched a vt day 1 you can only lynch a VT claim day 2. If we lynch a lover day 1 we can only lynch a lover claim day 2.

Your the one Who liked the setup talk, but I paid enough attention to it.

[Bambi Jay]

Michael, you dont have to admit your scum, but has McQueen appeared in the scumchat at all? Otherwise your partner has literally left you in the dust. And Lolwagon too, for that matter.

[Bambi Jay]

Hellz na.

VOTE: Michael Scott

Now,

lynch Clemency after my flip.

Ya dipshit unvote this so the VTs can kill you. Or my partner.

[Bambi Jay]

Hypothetically, I know your town and I wanted my partner to vote you first before the vts so Clemency's VT partner hammers you. Now that shit wont happen, le sigh.

[Bambi Jay]

Did you vote Michael already? Because you get to end it with me/himself/Clem/meh on him.

[Bambi Jay]

Damnit Egi why must you be my partner. Let this shit play out.

@Mod: pretty please let me have a new partner? Preferably either Dong or Overkill so I know which one to lynch next

#howcouldthishappentome.

[Bambi Jay]

We've gone past the point of lynching a VT at this point, Lol. 2 lover sets are deadset on Michael and by extension McQueen's head. I have no intention of letting Michael squeeze out of this with you being his 3rd scum partner still being possible, so unless you get the VT to vote themselves, I dont think a VT lynch is possible.

[Bambi Jay]

Well look at where pure logic and a lazy lover got you.

[Bambi Jay]

Because 5/9 people have stated Michael is the proper lynch, 2 lover sets and Michael himself.

Why are you so obsessed with the other VTs?

[Bambi Jay]

Dong plz. If you do this we literally have already stated it'll just be me and Michael tommorow arguing our ass off and I already have pointed out lol as his partner. Where do you think that'll go?

[Bambi Jay]

Clem and meh aren't even posting anymore ATM and there's still chaos. No way scum just shuts up here, right?

[Bambi Jay]

Clem and meh aren't even posting anymore ATM and there's still chaos. No way scum just shuts up here, right?

Clem posted six minutes ago.

To tell us he's going to ignore this game.

Pedit: welcome back. How was meatboy?

[Bambi Jay]

I still feel like town would be saying "wait for my partner", Michael. Ignoring waiting for McQueen to give an input is... Weird.

[Bambi Jay]

Well yeah, but that's mainly for the VTs. Your right in that they're the deciding vote now.

[Bambi Jay]

But what if overkill is the other townie and Lol/dong are the scum? Like I said before, if you do flip town, Lol seems like an optimal scum partner with how hard they tried to buddy you.

What's your thoughts in scum!Lolwagon, Michael? Or scum!Dongempire.

[Bambi Jay]

Of course I'd vote Clem still, but if Lol or Dong is scum, then having Overkill's opinion on what they want to do is imperative.

This game would be decided by the 2 vts not listening to the wrong guy, ya know. The vts are irrelevent because they decide the game now.

[Bambi Jay]

Of course I'd vote Clem still, but if Lol or Dong is scum, then having Overkill's opinion on what they want to do is imperative.

This game would be decided by the 2 vts not listening to the wrong guy, ya know. The vts

aren't

irrelevent because they decide the game now.

Dang nabbit.

[Bambi Jay]

At this point if nobody else is gonna vote ATM I'll listen to him and do hypothetical gamesolving in case your scum. Unlikely, but hey, it's more fun then doing nothing.

[Bambi Jay]

wait... you... can't be town?

it's me or michael since i townread bambs

But Why tho.

[Bambi Jay]

Because secretly all the VT claims are scum and me and ruby are the actual VTs.

[Bambi Jay]

Hey Clem, wanna shitpost until town comes to their senses and kills Michael

[Bambi Jay]

The fuck is a speedcube.

[Bambi Jay]

I can't even solve a 2×2 Rubik cube. Tf you expect me to do there.

[Bambi Jay]

@humble request to town:

pretty please hang Michael now? 70 percent chance the game ends here and now, and 30 percent chance me and Clem get to enter Mortal Kombat with each other and be entertaining AF.

It's a win-win for everyone. Well, except Micheal and McQueen and probably lolwagon.

[Bambi Jay]

Fuck you I wanna have a chance at being lynched but be heroic and save town in its time of need.

[Bambi Jay]

Fricking doggo I'm trying to save your ass by killing Michael so I know to trust him and have Lolwagon confirmed townie so we can kill scum Clem if it's a thing.

[Bambi Jay]

Then murder Michael or something. That'll end the circlejerk.

[Bambi Jay]

No fuck that kill Michael, either end the game or let me 1 v 1 Clem.

[Bambi Jay]

The lovers votes come in pairs bro. If we lynch a vt it's still basically the same thing as 3:4.

What happened to you being the "necessary sacrifice"? Fricken weird that that disappeared.

Clearly you don't want to lynch the pairs so I get to be scummy af now without repercussions: if we don't go through this plan and kill YOU, then I will only vote you tommorow. If Clem also agrees, well look where you are.

[Bambi Jay]

guys
stop arguing
just vote mike

The mod confirmed to only me and Clem and Michael is scum.



Kill this monstrosity before he roams free again.

[Bambi Jay]

So @Bambi and @Clemency, do either of you have a truly

legitimate

argument for why town shouldn't strive to have that 5:3 town:scum ratio on day two rather than a 4:3 town:scum ratio via lynching a claimed VT today rather than a claimed town lover pair?

Both of you have been shading our slot all game long for extremely bad reasons, and yet neither of you have made an

intelligent

argument as to why lynching a claimed town lover pair over a claimed VT is the optimal strategy that gives the town the greatest chance of winning the game on day two in the event that the day one lynch is a mislynch.

There is simply no logical reason to fight the strategy of lynching within the claimed VT pool as town.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

There’s a simple reason and it’s that OK and I have already found scum, and you two aren’t lynching me. So they literally can’t back down on that stance. They’re locked in. One pair is stupid and one is scum.

Said Michael's third partner.

[Bambi Jay]

You may have convinced Ruby to fuck off, but I won't back down.

There's no need for reason anymore, only cold hard DETERMINATION.

[Bambi Jay]

This ain't no pacifist route. We're fighting the Neutral Route omega flowey boss

[Bambi Jay]

I actually only kill the non-humanoid monsters, thank you very much.

[Bambi Jay]

if bambs is scum i can beat her

Tag me in coach. I can beat em, let me at em.

[Bambi Jay]

Srsly tho I got family to hang out with, lets kill Michael and be on our merry way.

Ruby get back on Michael. Dont fall for their lies.

[Bambi Jay]

The lovers votes come in pairs bro. If we lynch a vt it's still basically the same thing as 3:4.

What happened to you being the "necessary sacrifice"? Fricken weird that that disappeared.

Clearly you don't want to lynch the pairs so I get to be scummy af now without repercussions: if we don't go through this plan and kill YOU, then I will only vote you tommorow. If Clem also agrees, well look where you are.

What are you talking about? The two lovers in a pair don't have to vote the same way, and their votes aren't tied to each other. So if the day two town:scum ratio is 5:3 and the five townies are {town lover A, town lover B}, {town lover C, town lover D}, {VT E}, and A votes with scum but B,C, D, and E all correctly vote for scum FIRST, then town still wins in spite of the fact that A voted for a fellow townie. This scenario is possible with a 5:3 ratio but not with a 4:3 ratio.

So yes, the 5:3 ratio does make a difference, and it clearly favors the town. You want to take away that advantage by sending us into day two with a 4:3 ratio, which doesn't give the town that buffer of still being able to win if one townie has bad reads and votes with scum.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

Well that buffer is useless anyway since me and Clem are voting you tommorow, and clearly 1 of us is town in your eyes.

Do the necessary sacrifice for town like you said you would, because you don't get to be scummy and get away with it.

[Bambi Jay]

i have no idea who's deepwolfing me right now and i'm not voting either one of them until i figure it out

You don’t even to have to solve the damn pairs I’ve solved the VTs already

Yeah, the scum team Michael/Lolwagon/McQueen are lynching the other 2 vts. So smart. Such scum. Much wow.

Ruby dont fall for this shit.

[Bambi Jay]

just stop bambi

No u.

See reason already.

[Bambi Jay]

I shitpost because scum wouldn't have a chance otherwise.

[Bambi Jay]

It'll be a very fun challenge to do.

[Bambi Jay]

McQueen doesn't even exist.

[Bambi Jay]

Ruby are you honestly thinking of voting the dong?

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Dongempire

Bless.

Now we need two of Ruby/Mcqueen/Bambi and this nightmare will end.

VOTE: dongempire

You don't get to outdo me in being spontaneous and weird.

VOTE: Dongempire

Only I get to do that.

[Bambi Jay]

Well killing someone who already wanted to die is weird.

Did we win?

[Bambi Jay]

if it's scum, i was most likely wrong
if it's town, we have the scumteam

Can ya explain this slightly, Clem?

[Bambi Jay]

Little worried that one from each pair voted Dong actually but whatever

This game doesn’t seem to be wrought with strategic thinking

Your just happy that you got 2 of the town lovers to vote with Michael, ya bloody scum.

[Bambi Jay]

I hammered because he doesn't want to play anymore anyway. Now we can probably kill you if I can convince my partner to listen to reason.

[Bambi Jay]

Are you stealing my brainwaves or are we literally just thinking the same thoughts, Clem?

[Bambi Jay]

Hot take: Muh now backtracks and will agree with his lover, and 100% commit to an association between me and Lolwagons, and won't vote for 0verki11.

Red, opinions?

Nani?

[Bambi Jay]

I personally* do want you lynched.

We wanted you dead but look where were at.

[Bambi Jay]

At this point if Ruby is betraying me and going with the scum team, fuck it, let them win. Clearly they derseve it. I'm not voting anywhere at this point.

You do you Ruby. Please read the game again. If someone is at L-1 I'm gonna auto hammer it. Side with the scum and I'll hammer if for you, and know in blaming you for their win.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Overkill

[Bambi Jay]

Michael is the best honorary scum member.

[Bambi Jay]

Michael literally townread the entire scum team and scumread the town.

Thanks Clem for doing what I knew you'd do and side with me at the beginning against Michael.

[Bambi Jay]

See me laughing at the game with Lolwagon yeah. I consent.

[Bambi Jay]

I thought shitting on both my "lover" Egi as well as Lolwagon really helped you never think of the possibility that me/ruby and Lol was the scum team.

Besides, I went off the logic that you did. "Scum lovers wouldn't be arguing, they'd be like meh and Clem and be in sync".

[Bambi Jay]

Dang it you Thot leave me be. I wanna play mafia in peace.

[Bambi Jay]

I consent to our {Michael Scott, Mcqueen} PT being released as well.

I really wanma see this thing. Where's the link?

I kinda want to see how I got townread for being the most obvious scum in the world, especially considering I started pushing you and Clem only followed.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah if I was doing optimization, I was killing the suspicious Michael slot as well as the lurker Mcqueen, THEN I also cleared Lolwagon of being scum, and finally I'd have killed Clem to win it for town.

Of course, that was if I was actually a townlover in that scenario.

[Bambi Jay]

Dong, you realize this could have been avoided if... You know... You out in more effort? Or maybe had someone besides McQueen as Michael's partner?

You gave up and nobody even minded when I hammered you. That's jot a good thing.

[Bambi Jay]

I thought town lacked a protown voice, which would have really helped.

But... Me

You had 2 lovers aiming for your head. I think making the lovers claim actually fucked you over more.

[Bambi Jay]

Hey, I was literally fighting Lolwagon tooth and nail and Egi Appearantly tipped you off of something. Even taking the convoluted route is "optimal because of the circumstances".

[Bambi Jay]

By convincing him I was scum instead of you. Obviously he knew 1 of us was lying, and he thought it was you.

[Bambi Jay]

Should have memed it like I did. Clem likes memes.

[Bambi Jay]

Because the game went supa dupa fast, yo. You didn't post for 2 days but that didn't even get you prodded because we ended it before you came back.

Welcome to a micro game with 9 or less players.