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Post Post #6139 (isolation #400) » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:12 pm

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Ooh that’s spicy
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Post Post #6151 (isolation #401) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:21 am

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Curious why MEME MEN didn’t ask nsg the question they asked Nico
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Post Post #6314 (isolation #402) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:51 pm

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In post 6277, THE MEME MEN wrote:Image

We have a parity cop guilty, Fire! That's right! Just what this game needed! Even more gladiation! :) :) :) :)

Really though one out of Nico and NSG is scum so which is it?

-rh
I’m with whoever it was that wanted your results
I also noted the graduation situation in my head, idk what you calling it out means rn
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Post Post #6328 (isolation #403) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:01 pm

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In post 6294, Shoshin wrote:I'm a protective role, actually. A bodyguard.
And this matters how?
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Post Post #6331 (isolation #404) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:02 pm

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In post 6324, Shoshin wrote:Yeah, I saw the parity cop. Nico's scummy, as a general matter, but I don't see any reason to trust Meme's results even if Meme's town.
Why not if Meme is town, ew?
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Post Post #6349 (isolation #405) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 6348, Lady Angel wrote:I also heavily doubt that town has three protective roles and would advise looking in there after we sort the Meme Men/Nico/NSG situation out.
Why?
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Post Post #6370 (isolation #406) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:28 pm

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In post 6351, Shoshin wrote:Gamma, what are your reads?
I’ve already given a few
They certainly aren’t set in stone, one in fact I’m kinda upset with myself on
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Post Post #6371 (isolation #407) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:29 pm

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In post 6362, THE MEME MEN wrote:In the scum game I read, he seemed a bit calmer, a bit more collected, whereas here he seems a bit more random and spontaneously aggressive. So he just seems tonally different. But I haven't really looked at his meta beyond that. Also, he posted a lot more as scum (150+ posts in 2 day phases as scum vs. ~100 posts in 4 day dayphases here). As scum he had more presence. So tone + activity both suggest difference from scumplay.

My impression of scum wheme:
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My impression of wheme here:
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could still be scum, it's still the same guy, but he seems diff

How much experience do you have with him? Again, I did not do a super deep dive so I'm open to a rebuttal

-rh
I was thinking this until recently
Though it was reactive to his mastina push so that deserves reconsideration
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Post Post #6376 (isolation #408) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:50 pm

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Adelbert is awol wut
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Post Post #6377 (isolation #409) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:52 pm

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Btw MEME MEN: how closely were you following the game during night 4?
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Post Post #6379 (isolation #410) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:58 pm

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Okay then
Why the need to be condescending, normie?
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Post Post #6381 (isolation #411) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:14 pm

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Ok so here’s why I asked
If you were engaged, don’t you think a better use for your role existed? A way to get a 100% certain read on someone?
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Post Post #6386 (isolation #412) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:06 pm

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In post 6382, THE MEME MEN wrote:I mean, maybe. But not really. We already have two mechanical semi-clears and we wanted to lynch in {NSG, Nico} anyway. So {Same alignment} would have given us two guilties over one (although not 'confirmed guilty'), so the risk of getting {unaligned} and having to do some sorting seemed fine if we were wrong on one of the two. In retrospect, we might have played suboptimally, but I can't say I'm 100% sure I would actually have done it differently even now

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So I left this vague on purpose to test you, don’t feel too good about your response. Now the FULL question: why didn’t you consider checking Fire/Adelbert and an unknown? I’d rather use that power as straight up alignment cop if I had the chance.
About NSG: apparently she is in town as town? Problem is, no one has ever told me anything beyond that so I have little to work with on the meta front. I might try to see if I can’t get to a reliable read rate on NSG by myself.
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Post Post #6394 (isolation #413) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:39 pm

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In post 6393, Vecna wrote:
In post 6352, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 6349, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6348, Lady Angel wrote:I also heavily doubt that town has three protective roles and would advise looking in there after we sort the Meme Men/Nico/NSG situation out.
Why?
So far, all we've seen from scum is a role that is blatantly only useful for town and a role that forces a lynch, which backfired. While this can obviously be proven false the more scum roles we've seen, none of the claimed roles or roles we've heard about so far really would balance out town having three protective roles yet.
For your point on the protectives, dont forget all of them have drawbacks.

My role was a trap that was supposed to be lynched on D1 (and almost was).

The bodyguard doesnt actually save a town from dying since it dies itself

The loud babysitter
allows scum to do a double kill if it ever visits scum
(or have the weird outcome of killing themselves along with the babysitter).

But ill happily agree we shouldnt automatically assume theyre all town.
Huh???
It looks like you mixed up something but the stuff in parentheses says otherwise. Wtf is the meaning of the bolded?
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Post Post #6398 (isolation #414) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:46 pm

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Optimal how?
MEME MEN target 2 unknowns: we get a result that requires one to flip to be useful, and allows scum to snipe any town that are cleared by the result in the next night before town gets the boon of their guidance
MEME MEN targets a known and unknown: we get a result that is foolproof and has instant meaning, and let’s a town confirmed by this contribute for that day without being suspected
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Post Post #6399 (isolation #415) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:48 pm

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In post 6397, Vecna wrote:
In post 6394, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6393, Vecna wrote:
In post 6352, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 6349, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6348, Lady Angel wrote:I also heavily doubt that town has three protective roles and would advise looking in there after we sort the Meme Men/Nico/NSG situation out.
Why?
So far, all we've seen from scum is a role that is blatantly only useful for town and a role that forces a lynch, which backfired. While this can obviously be proven false the more scum roles we've seen, none of the claimed roles or roles we've heard about so far really would balance out town having three protective roles yet.
For your point on the protectives, dont forget all of them have drawbacks.

My role was a trap that was supposed to be lynched on D1 (and almost was).

The bodyguard doesnt actually save a town from dying since it dies itself

The loud babysitter
allows scum to do a double kill if it ever visits scum
(or have the weird outcome of killing themselves along with the babysitter).

But ill happily agree we shouldnt automatically assume theyre all town.
Huh???
It looks like you mixed up something but the stuff in parentheses says otherwise. Wtf is the meaning of the bolded?
If scum nightkills the babysitter, it kills both the babysitter and the baby. If the babysitter ever visits scum, due to the loud modifier, the scum can kill her + her baby the next night.
That’s not bad thinking, but it’s wrong. Why would Jingle play around it like he did if the person who did it was outright stated? I assume that assumption of the babysitter’s exact ID being revealed is influencing your analysis.
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Post Post #6403 (isolation #416) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:06 pm

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In post 6402, Vecna wrote:
In post 6399, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6397, Vecna wrote:
In post 6394, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6393, Vecna wrote:
In post 6352, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 6349, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6348, Lady Angel wrote:I also heavily doubt that town has three protective roles and would advise looking in there after we sort the Meme Men/Nico/NSG situation out.
Why?
So far, all we've seen from scum is a role that is blatantly only useful for town and a role that forces a lynch, which backfired. While this can obviously be proven false the more scum roles we've seen, none of the claimed roles or roles we've heard about so far really would balance out town having three protective roles yet.
For your point on the protectives, dont forget all of them have drawbacks.

My role was a trap that was supposed to be lynched on D1 (and almost was).

The bodyguard doesnt actually save a town from dying since it dies itself

The loud babysitter
allows scum to do a double kill if it ever visits scum
(or have the weird outcome of killing themselves along with the babysitter).

But ill happily agree we shouldnt automatically assume theyre all town.
Huh???
It looks like you mixed up something but the stuff in parentheses says otherwise. Wtf is the meaning of the bolded?
If scum nightkills the babysitter, it kills both the babysitter and the baby. If the babysitter ever visits scum, due to the loud modifier, the scum can kill her + her baby the next night.
That’s not bad thinking, but it’s wrong. Why would Jingle play around it like he did if the person who did it was outright stated? I assume that assumption of the babysitter’s exact ID being revealed is influencing your analysis.
I didnt really analyze anything, I just stated that the thought of "town cannot have three protectives" -might potentially be wrong-, since all three roles aren't unconditional protection.

Regardless, that babysitter targetting Jingle and NR (thats what the claims were right?) already shows that.....it might not even exist or just be scum.
Why do you think those targets imply that?
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Post Post #6409 (isolation #417) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:28 am

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In post 6406, Vecna wrote:
In post 6403, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6402, Vecna wrote:
In post 6399, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6397, Vecna wrote:
In post 6394, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6393, Vecna wrote:
In post 6352, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 6349, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6348, Lady Angel wrote:I also heavily doubt that town has three protective roles and would advise looking in there after we sort the Meme Men/Nico/NSG situation out.
Why?
So far, all we've seen from scum is a role that is blatantly only useful for town and a role that forces a lynch, which backfired. While this can obviously be proven false the more scum roles we've seen, none of the claimed roles or roles we've heard about so far really would balance out town having three protective roles yet.
For your point on the protectives, dont forget all of them have drawbacks.

My role was a trap that was supposed to be lynched on D1 (and almost was).

The bodyguard doesnt actually save a town from dying since it dies itself

The loud babysitter
allows scum to do a double kill if it ever visits scum
(or have the weird outcome of killing themselves along with the babysitter).

But ill happily agree we shouldnt automatically assume theyre all town.
Huh???
It looks like you mixed up something but the stuff in parentheses says otherwise. Wtf is the meaning of the bolded?
If scum nightkills the babysitter, it kills both the babysitter and the baby. If the babysitter ever visits scum, due to the loud modifier, the scum can kill her + her baby the next night.
That’s not bad thinking, but it’s wrong. Why would Jingle play around it like he did if the person who did it was outright stated? I assume that assumption of the babysitter’s exact ID being revealed is influencing your analysis.
I didnt really analyze anything, I just stated that the thought of "town cannot have three protectives" -might potentially be wrong-, since all three roles aren't unconditional protection.

Regardless, that babysitter targetting Jingle and NR (thats what the claims were right?) already shows that.....it might not even exist or just be scum.
Why do you think those targets imply that?
Those targets only make sense really if (censored) is the babysitter and just wanted those people to die in the offchance he was killed that night. Taking that risk to reveal yourself on people you want to die is really stupid though.

Just ask yourself; was scum EVER going to kill Jingle or NR with townclears aplenty? Ofcourse not
Okay
I didn’t think you took that into account tbh, that’s something I see as possible

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Post Post #6411 (isolation #418) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:22 am

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In post 6410, Vecna wrote:Are you scum this game GE? Youre feeling so weird
Nah
Just a little out of my mind, which may or may not have its reasons
When did you start feeling this way
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Post Post #6413 (isolation #419) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:02 am

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I guess it’s just me being kinda jaded
Now that we’re past the mastina hurdle I hope you’ll see a change but it’s possible the damage to my WIM can’t be reversed
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Post Post #6415 (isolation #420) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:24 am

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Want It More? Have you seriously not heard that before?
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Post Post #6465 (isolation #421) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:08 am

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In post 6427, Jingle wrote:Votecount 5.241.1:

Gamma Emerald (0):
Porkens (0):
Fire

Aristophanes (0):
NSG

Lady Angel: (0):
Whemestar (0):
Jingle (0):
Creature
, Nero
Firebringer (0):
Creature (0):
Nero Cain (0):
The Meme Men (0): Porkens
jjh927 (0):
Vecna (0):
Adelbert Steiner (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Creature

Invisibility??? (0):
Nicorobin (0): JJH, Lady Angel, NSG, Creature, Fire,
Porkens

Shoshin (0):

Not Voting: Sora, Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, Adelbert Steiner, Invisibility???, Gamma Emerald, Jingle, Shiro, Vecna, Shoshin

Slightly more complete votecount. Porkens attempted to unvote you but tag failed, so his vote should still be there. Also included the votes that were made and changed already for reference.

The vote threshhold, assuming it is calculated the way I think it is (1 additional player because of public doublevoter) will drop if Vizzy is modkilled, so L-1 is functionally a hammer here.
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Post Post #6466 (isolation #422) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:09 am

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In post 6430, Jingle wrote:
In post 6425, THE MEME MEN wrote:jjh & nico have been at each other's throats on d4. Today d5, jjh is voting nico. That was part of the reasoning we included nico & nsg to be checked. If it's suboptimal since we didn't parity investigate a confirmed town vs an unknown, well, we didn't think of that. We thought what would make sense most , at the time of n4 so we did what we thought best.
Nah, parity cop should always check two slots in the PoE pool unless it's the day before LYLO. Your choice was fine. Personally, I would have gone for more lurker-y people than NSG and NR (Wheme and GE/Ari, probably) but not targeting conftown wasn't a mistake.
I guess your play is fine
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Post Post #6467 (isolation #423) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 6459, Vecna wrote:The deja vu is real indeed
Deja vu to what? Death Note is the last game I remember playing with both of you, is it that?
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Post Post #6470 (isolation #424) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:20 am

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Took some time to recall that myself. That game is pretty old relatively speaking.
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Post Post #6472 (isolation #425) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 6469, Vecna wrote:fucking wisdom and his lucky ass mask. But no, I was referring the shit that went down between me, nero and RC in civ mafia
Ok yeah I have less background for that
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Post Post #6497 (isolation #426) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:44 pm

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In post 6491, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 6489, jjh927 wrote:Creature's guilty wasn't a guilty for the reasons I pointed out
And MM's guilty isn't a guilty because redirector.
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Post Post #6592 (isolation #427) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:01 pm

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In post 6498, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 6496, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 6493, jjh927 wrote:
In post 6491, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 6489, jjh927 wrote:Creature's guilty wasn't a guilty for the reasons I pointed out
And MM's guilty isn't a guilty because redirector.
Nah, extremely unlikely
So why is Creature's guilty fake because of redirector and MM's ability isn't, eh?
No one said that about Creature, I think EVER?
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Post Post #6630 (isolation #428) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:02 pm

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In post 6613, Nero Cain wrote:I have 2 A's. One before the comma wich I guess is my role and 1 the comma which I guess is flavor.
In post 6614, Nero Cain wrote:or maybe 2 A's in flavor and 2 in my role. I'm not really sure.
Discussing this is bad
It might out the loud babysitter
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Post Post #6643 (isolation #429) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:41 am

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So Invisibilities entire point was to enable 1 role
WHAT
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Post Post #6676 (isolation #430) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:23 am

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In post 6648, Vecna wrote:Hmmmm. Would RC ever design a scum role that would require town intervention for it to be activated though? The timing on Meme's usage, combined with the impending modkill on Inivisibility would only make sense as scum if they knew it was invis that was the pinball repairman.
If I can be Seraph Knight to scum as town it could be possible. :wink: :cool:
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Post Post #6677 (isolation #431) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:25 am

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In post 6674, Jingle wrote:
In post 5438, Invisibility wrote:
i guess replace me lol

sorry rc i tried
In post 6261, THE MEME MEN wrote:
In post 6217, Vecna wrote:So Mr parity cop, why is there only 1 result? And how come you were unaware that there have been 4 nights so far?
Our ability only became available after someone fixed our pinball machine

we chose NSG+Nico because having a "same alignment" on both had the potential of giving us a second guilty if we flipped the first, this way we have to settle for a townclear after we flip red

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Would a being replaced Vizzy have repaired MM's machine?
Vizzy was around for N3 iirc
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Post Post #6711 (isolation #432) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:29 am

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In post 6681, Aristophanes wrote:Machine was repaired before last night tho...
Gimme a sec
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Post Post #6718 (isolation #433) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:32 am

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In post 4813, RadiantCowbells wrote:Skygazer was smited for inactivity! She was
A misguided man who just read Lorenz's famous paper On chaos theory ("Does the flap of a butterfly’s wings in Brazil set off a tornado in Texas?") and is now off to Brazil with three months of camping supplies and a butterfly net in an attempt to do something with that information, Town Very Intelligent Person
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That fucker who beat me in pool is going to regret the fuck out of that shit. I will destroy his fucking house.


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i guess replace me lol

sorry rc i tried
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Post Post #6725 (isolation #434) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:45 am

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In post 6721, northsidegal wrote:gotcha.

the more arrogantly an assertion is pushed, the better it feels to disprove it

also, shos is not shoshin
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Post Post #6733 (isolation #435) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:12 pm

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who is that about
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Post Post #6749 (isolation #436) » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:45 pm

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In post 6748, Creature wrote:
In post 6740, RadiantCowbells wrote:At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.
Oh nice only town are replacing out.
Makes sense: scum killed Town WIM and are now waiting out the clock to eliminate everyone they can outside of the standard kills
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Post Post #6824 (isolation #437) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:03 pm

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In post 6771, THE MEME MEN wrote:
Votecount 5.04


jingle (1) : nero
nico (6) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Sora, Vecna, Shoshin

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.

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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, nero/jingle/LA/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - refused to claim

Nvm I miscounted, still only 6 votes. Point still stands though about nico getting us a reads list.

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REFUSED to claim? Who asked???
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Post Post #6831 (isolation #438) » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:14 pm

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In post 6755, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6751, Vecna wrote:while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game
Wait, is this about Fire? ok yeah but I don't understand that as a response to "I guess the next thing is how he treats Gamma. Like he sort of freaks out when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun to shoot Gamma and then he starts to argue a Fire/Gamma team. " Walk me through it.
Ok walk me through this?
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Post Post #6838 (isolation #439) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:31 am

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In post 6832, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6830, Vecna wrote:An even worse slot to give a gun to
but why would you care if Wheme was going to shoot someone you were scumreading?
In post 6831, Gamma Emerald wrote:Ok walk me through this?
Are you asking me or Vecna?
You.
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Post Post #6839 (isolation #440) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:33 am

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In post 6836, RadiantCowbells wrote:Because of the relative importance of said hurtcounts, I'm considering making a compilation post of them.

Lmk by pm or in game your thoughts on that.
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Post Post #6845 (isolation #441) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:05 am

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In post 6840, Nero Cain wrote:
What am I walking you through? All I know is Vecna was scum reading you and then when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun Vecna kinda freaked out. And I don't have a clue what you are doing.
You’re walking me through the chain of events. Though I was mostly wondering who the fuck you were talking about, which you answered here.
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Post Post #6893 (isolation #442) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:33 pm

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Am I voting Nico? I should be voting Nico.
VOTE: NicoRobin
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Post Post #6920 (isolation #443) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:56 pm

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Why is Nero rolefishing
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Post Post #6930 (isolation #444) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:05 pm

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In post 6928, Nero Cain wrote:Well, I know Gamma is on.
I’m in multiple games. Screw off.
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Post Post #6932 (isolation #445) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:10 pm

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I’m more talking about you fishing stuff about LA and Jingle’s roles
Did THEY claim?
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Post Post #6934 (isolation #446) » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:16 pm

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Where
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Post Post #6953 (isolation #447) » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 am

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Hm
How about Shoshin goes on Fire and our resident Loud Babysitter goes on MEME MEN
There’s a logic to this.
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Post Post #7023 (isolation #448) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:29 pm

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In post 6998, THE MEME MEN wrote:something something felt apathetic last night

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something something didn't do anything cause didn't feel like it

etc. etc.

Anyway, if we have sk then it can't be sho cause the first smite for inactivity was before she joined right? Unless this is like 4D bastardry with people making nightkills that aren't in the game.

Given Sky + Wheme as the smite kills are we leaning SK there or Vig? If SK why aren't there more corpses would be my main question. Thinking about the possibility of Wheme being vigged.

-rh
Wow nice, waste our time
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Post Post #7024 (isolation #449) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:30 pm

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In post 7007, THE MEME MEN wrote:
In post 6097, Aristophanes wrote:I didn't do anything last night because what's the point?
Oh boy
So nihilism is like some sort of loud roleblocker?
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Post Post #7051 (isolation #450) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:52 am

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Should we massclaim now?
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Post Post #7083 (isolation #451) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:09 am

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In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
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Post Post #7092 (isolation #452) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:18 am

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In post 7088, jjh927 wrote:
In post 7083, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7061, jjh927 wrote:Mechanically, needless to say the roleblocker is scum but I'm pretty sure the babysitter can be too
What utility is there for scum babysitter?
Let's say there's a town vig or an SK

If the scum babysitter can predict a scum player going to be killed by them, then they protect them.
If the scum babysitter is the one likely to be killed, then they target a town player and go 1 for 1



Their targets have been highly questionable so it makes sense with that logic
Look at the targets again though: hasn’t like 3 different people claimed protection? That means at least one of them is town right? Why would scum babysitter target town?
Pull your head out of your ass and think critically instead of assuming weird = scum.
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Post Post #7096 (isolation #453) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am

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Btw take care of your modding commitments ò_ó
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Post Post #7100 (isolation #454) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:23 am

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In post 7094, jjh927 wrote:Gamma don't you fucking dare tell me to think critically again when you're clearly lacking in that department by what you just said
Really? So far I recall Jingle and someone else has claimed it. So that’s not exactly what I thought but unless it’s jingle, the other person, and the babysitter all being scum, Town was targeted. So again: WHY WOULD SCUM BABYSITTER TARGET TOWN????
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Post Post #7190 (isolation #455) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:27 am

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In post 7125, Porkens wrote:
In post 7110, Lady Angel wrote:VOTE: Porkens

I'd believe a lot of stuff, but I don't believe both you and Jingle would've managed to miss the fact that NR's role asks for both your role and target, so why didn't one of you tell us?

I'm voting you over Jingle because your meme vote was especially bad yesterday.
I was NEVER asked who I targeted.
So NR lied about her target or...?
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Post Post #7191 (isolation #456) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 7160, Jingle wrote:
In post 7155, Nero Cain wrote:you do realize that Nico didn't actually target Mastina right?
Yeah, but she also didn't target anyone else. Hence, not using her role for the first two nights is unlikely > Porkens town.
Hm
Wait, so Porkens flat out lied in the post I quoted
Murder time on the big pig?
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Post Post #7192 (isolation #457) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:34 am

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VOTE: Porkens
I want bacon for dinner
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Post Post #7193 (isolation #458) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:10 am

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THE MEME MEN, Parity Cop
Northsidegal
Gamma Emerald
Profii
Porkens
Vecna, Loud <idk> D1 Conditional Enhancer
Lady Angel
Jingle, Tracker(?)
Nero Cain
Creature, Role and Flavor A Cop
jjh927, Deathproof Vote Freezer
Aristophanes
Shoshin
Wh4t, Town Vote Exchanging 1-Shot Desperado.
Vaxkiller, Town Post Restricted Delayer.

Varsoon, Mafia Novice 1-Shot Paranoia-er.

Skygazer, Town Conditional Night Skipper.
Chickadee, Town Loud Repeating Youtube Linker.

Mastina, Mafia Hated Disloyal Gladiator.

Invisibility, Town Pinball Machine Repairer (THE MEME MEN Enabler).

NicoRobin, Mafia Conditional Rolecopping Tracker Conditional Triplevoter.
WhemeStar, Mafia 1-Shot Strongman 1-Shot Ninja Posthumous Neighbourizer.

Firebringer, Town Temporarily Neighbourizing Modified Inventor.

Trying to put claims and flips together
Anything I missed? Help me fill in any blanks
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Post Post #7236 (isolation #459) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:33 pm

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I noted the wording implied no 3p myself making that list of flips and claims
Had I noticed earlier I would have used it to try to get townlock reads
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Post Post #7266 (isolation #460) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:05 am

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In post 7252, Vecna wrote:
In post 7192, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Porkens
I want bacon for dinner
I really dont get this logic. Porkens is confirmed not the scum that killed last night and confirmed not the SK/Vig.

Its a pretty terrible vote today. Id also Like Nero and whomever else it was that voted there to explain their choice, after I told them I had jailkept Porkens last night.
Why lie when the mod VC said there was a triple vote on him
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Post Post #7270 (isolation #461) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:34 am

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Porkens is probably 3p or just REALLY out of his mind. I feel like Nico wouldn't check him unless either they were opposite aligns or really trying to sell a bus play, which I don't see why that would be the case given I don't recall much pressure towards either D1
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #7273 (isolation #462) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:08 am

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Wait a second that might explain why I thought he was lying
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Post Post #7321 (isolation #463) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:39 pm

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In post 7314, Aristophanes wrote:That's fine with me. I'm a hider. Flavour is some LOL person.

Hid behind ??? N1, nobody N2 (I forgot to), Kuroi N3, Creature N4 (was blocked), and Meme N5.
How do you get blocked as a hider?
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Post Post #7354 (isolation #464) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:07 pm

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[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=10602010#p10602010]post 7322[/url], Nero Cain"]Gamma ur up.[/quote]
Lol k
I’m the damn loud babysitter. My flavor is Norman from Pokémon RSE, which I crumbed a few times
I targeted Kuroi n1 because he was inno’d by mastina but if I died I dont think I would have caused him to die
I targeted Jingle n2 because I felt like he was shady and I think there was something else that made him a good target imo
Targeted firebringer n3 for the same reason, plus I voted him in the event so I wanted to follow through there
Targeted Nico n4 because I felt like the connection to mastina was worth pressing. And yeah I’m aware I forgot about this, I have a private PT and my actions are split between there and PMs so I ended up confusing myself.
Targeted Creature n5 because I was considering targeting MEME MEN, didn’t want to so I wouldn’t give away my identity, and decided to target the other investigative to possibly see what was up there. I think this was probably a bad plan for that night’s actions but I stand by the rest
And FYI recall all that attempting to bait that shot Fire claimed he could give d2? My role was why.
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Post Post #7359 (isolation #465) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:14 pm

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In post 7356, jjh927 wrote:Why have you been using your ability in scummy ways
Is it scummy to try to get my suspects killed?
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Post Post #7364 (isolation #466) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:17 pm

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In post 7360, jjh927 wrote:
In post 7359, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7356, jjh927 wrote:Why have you been using your ability in scummy ways
Is it scummy to try to get my suspects killed?
The issue is that you basically haven't used your protective role
Well the thing is this was the first time I’d played the role and I’d recently seen Gustavo use it this way in mini 2023 when the game was in the earlier days so using it in that way was on my mind.
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Post Post #7365 (isolation #467) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:18 pm

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In post 7363, jjh927 wrote:Your targets make more sense from a scum perspective, targeting town on the offchance you get vigged except for the night when it seems most likely that NicoRobin will get vigged
Bear in mind I crumbed the fuck out of my role
Do you not think I act more scrupulous if I intended to play this way as scum?
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Post Post #7512 (isolation #468) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 am

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In post 7385, Jingle wrote:I mean...
Nero shoots Gamma.
Ari hides behind Gamma.
Gamma protects LA.
Should flip 3/4 of the scummiest slots, and if it doesn't then we have guilty based on not playing ball with the gamesolve.

If scumflip and game not over, Nero prob SK. If all townflips I don't even fucking know. If two scum/3P flips, Shoshin has to be scum if game's not over.
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Post Post #7514 (isolation #469) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:45 am

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In post 7414, Jingle wrote:Also, my plan doesn't work, Gamma is the 5th highest posting player in this game. Somehow.
Maybe if I go inactive it’ll work?
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Post Post #7515 (isolation #470) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:51 am

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In post 7450, Jingle wrote:I mean... He also claimed to have targeted profii's slot. Just like the babysitter. So profii could come in and corroborate or guilty either of those slots.
profii already denied receiving anything btw
What I think happened was the mod forgot to relay previous mod comms to profii
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Post Post #7518 (isolation #471) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:52 am

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In post 7473, Nero Cain wrote:Still, think scum has a protect b/c I have bullets. so in order Gamma>>>Vecna>>>JJ>>>Shoshin contains a scum.

Although I very very much dislike Jingle suggesting that I should suicide on Gamma.


22) Aristophanes
6) Gamma Emerald
14) Vecna
21) jjh927
18) Jingle
20) Creature
15) Lady Angel
12) Porkens
23) Shoshin
1) The MEME Men


So from top to bottom is my flip list
Wait how would killing me kill you?
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Post Post #7519 (isolation #472) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:53 am

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Also, Nero: turnabout is fair play fatherfucker
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Post Post #7520 (isolation #473) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:56 am

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In post 7487, Vecna wrote:
In post 7354, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 7322, Nero Cain wrote:Gamma ur up.
Lol k
I’m the damn loud babysitter. My flavor is Norman from Pokémon RSE, which I crumbed a few times
I targeted Kuroi n1 because he was inno’d by mastina but if I died I dont think I would have caused him to die
I targeted Jingle n2 because I felt like he was shady and I think there was something else that made him a good target imo
Targeted firebringer n3 for the same reason, plus I voted him in the event so I wanted to follow through there
Targeted Nico n4 because I felt like the connection to mastina was worth pressing. And yeah I’m aware I forgot about this, I have a private PT and my actions are split between there and PMs so I ended up confusing myself.
Targeted Creature n5 because I was considering targeting MEME MEN, didn’t want to so I wouldn’t give away my identity, and decided to target the other investigative to possibly see what was up there. I think this was probably a bad plan for that night’s actions but I stand by the rest
And FYI recall all that attempting to bait that shot Fire claimed he could give d2? My role was why.
So if you targetted scum, and they know your identity, why didnt you die alongside your target N5?
I’m 99% sure my name isn’t attached to the loud message, I asked about this when I got my role
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Post Post #7522 (isolation #474) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:05 am

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In post 7516, Vecna wrote:If youre town, why are you agreeing to be shot, which is terrible for town?
Because I’m a common suspect
And I personally feel being vigged is less shameful than being lynched
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Post Post #7523 (isolation #475) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:06 am

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In post 7521, Vecna wrote:Hasnt jingle been claiming he knew your identity, or have I been misunderstanding this all this time?
Maybe? I can see what he was saying D3 as that
Jingle, can you confirm which is correct?
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Post Post #7543 (isolation #476) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:05 am

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I have only seen LoL being played by others but that sounds OP af
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Post Post #7546 (isolation #477) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:18 am

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Which game was it he modded that has that again
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Post Post #7561 (isolation #478) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:11 am

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In post 7553, Creature wrote:Okay I realised my result on Lady Angel is now compatible
eh
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Post Post #7601 (isolation #479) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:05 pm

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This is interesting and I have nothing to add.
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Post Post #7641 (isolation #480) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:42 am

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If NSG is the roleblocker things are extremely fucky
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Post Post #7644 (isolation #481) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:17 am

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Yes, and it's your turn
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Post Post #7647 (isolation #482) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:57 am

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In post 7645, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im
a flipless villager
who sends messages to people who visit me
Gross.
fyi RC has implemented this role in the past as a scum role
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Post Post #7717 (isolation #483) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:30 pm

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In post 7683, THE MEME MEN wrote:
In post 7680, Jingle wrote:
@mod: Is hider a miscellaneous, blocking, or commuting role by your definition?
a.
I'm not RC but I want to offer my insight on this - if the hider is simply hider (normal hider), then it's just going to hide behind the target.

If the target gets targeted, they both die.
If hider is targeted, just the hider dies.



b.
From what I understood from my skim catchup, aris is a normal hider? Yet he hid behind us , and that's not optimal play because what if we were nked, then he would've died too. So, that's fishy on aris.
I also find it suspect that jingle sent pizza to aris on n5 and aris said he never got it. One of them is scum.

And what do you mean by blocking property??....


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That is like, NOT how hider works at all
And he is NOT normal hider unless the term weak is written out in his role as Normal hider is not weak without the modifier
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Post Post #7722 (isolation #484) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:56 pm

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Wow ok I missed the point where he realized it wasn’t that
My last two brain cells when...
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Post Post #7724 (isolation #485) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:57 pm

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Hwat
I didn’t say that
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Post Post #7731 (isolation #486) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:12 pm

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When I had spam dayvig in Weeb Waifu Wars it was based on posts in the phase iirc
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Post Post #7740 (isolation #487) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:39 pm

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In post 7738, THE MEME MEN wrote:
In post 7717, Gamma Emerald wrote:That is like, NOT how hider works at all
And he is NOT normal hider unless the term weak is written out in his role as Normal hider is not weak without the modifier
I know you were dead by the point he claimed, but you were ALSO just in a game with a normal hider (Nero Cain in Children of Hurin)

-rh
I don’t count that as recent, somewhat recent maybe, not recent though
And I don’t think me being in that game changes anything about what I said there
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Post Post #7744 (isolation #488) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:03 pm

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In post 7741, Jingle wrote:RC answered, Ari is scum.

Hider shows up as a Hider action.
VOTE: Aristophanes
Who did Ari claim to target again
And what was your result
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Post Post #7824 (isolation #489) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:22 pm

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I checked and I know I targeted you so ask the mod again but maybe make it broader? It’s possible he thought you meant investigative results
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Post Post #7826 (isolation #490) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:27 pm

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I used a loud babysitter
In exact terms it’s informing babysitter
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Post Post #7829 (isolation #491) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:28 pm

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hwat
It sounded like you got nothing at all
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Post Post #7830 (isolation #492) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:29 pm

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Lol good one
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Post Post #7962 (isolation #493) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:44 am

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With 13 alive it's 8 to lynch.
Nani the fuck
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Post Post #7972 (isolation #494) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:22 am

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Lynching has been consistent with players alive up til now though iirc
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Post Post #8002 (isolation #495) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:19 am

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Is lynching Shoshin upon a scumflip that doesn't end the game a bad idea? I see minimal reason not to.
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Post Post #8005 (isolation #496) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:45 am

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In post 8004, jjh927 wrote:You know how Vecna's perspective literally includes him failing to jailkeep porkens by his own admission
where?
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Post Post #8014 (isolation #497) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:05 am

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You don't wanna play the mechanics game, play a mountainous.
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Post Post #8021 (isolation #498) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:48 am

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Nero never stated the criteria for his ability
What determines what a lurker is for your ability? I have a vague idea based on past games but a full clarification would help. And if you target someone who qualifies and are redirected to someone who doesn’t what happens?
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Post Post #8120 (isolation #499) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:54 pm

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what the duck
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Post Post #8129 (isolation #500) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:36 pm

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Didn’t you say that before
Someone hammer it now
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Post Post #8130 (isolation #501) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:36 pm

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Lol nvm
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Post Post #8131 (isolation #502) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:37 pm

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Still profii, stop being difficult
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Post Post #8133 (isolation #503) » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:37 pm

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Yeah I remembered he is conftown
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Post Post #8165 (isolation #504) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:01 am

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In post 8139, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 8119, RadiantCowbells wrote:meming in my game thread is banned and anyone who does so will be promptly modkilled
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That Fry is scaring me
What did you do to him
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Post Post #8181 (isolation #505) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:53 pm

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You can open mine RC. All spoilery things (that I care about) I’ve posted are marked.
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Post Post #8213 (isolation #506) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:09 pm

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In post 8192, Krazy wrote:Was very weird getting Shiro as a role lol. In Supp I was Firebringer and I ended up liking Firebringer once I actually played with him. Now I kinda wanna play with Shiro to see what she's like in game lol.

Nero, thanks for "correcting" my read on Wheme ;) I'm assuming you were gated?

Creature, always a pleasure solving these large messes with you.

Vecna, Jingle, Lady Angel, jjh, nice meeting you all this game. Definitely appreciated all the work you did in sorting the crazy night actions Jingle :)

Aristophanes, Varsoon, Nicorobin, Mastina, Wheme, thanks for putting up such a fight :)
Maybe you should do what mastina does and just submit mafiascummers as your picks all the time
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Post Post #8231 (isolation #507) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:46 am

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Btw if mastina tries wave meta clout as a reason to trust her read on me I’m auto-killing it
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Post Post #8321 (isolation #508) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:30 am

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In post 8316, Varsoon wrote:
In post 8308, Creature wrote:Featuring masons that must survive with non-masons to win
**Quickly deletes all his files and furiously erases the setup design whiteboard, muttering, "Damn, they figured out the gimmick, damn damn damn!"**

Coming Soon (tm)
Mweh-hehe...
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Post Post #8393 (isolation #509) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:24 pm

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In post 8382, Aristophanes wrote:
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to it not being released sooner
I miss ur old avi tbh
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Post Post #8405 (isolation #510) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:10 pm

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In post 8394, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 8393, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 8382, Aristophanes wrote:
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to it not being released sooner
I miss ur old avi tbh
It had actually grown on me too!

Perhaps this is just because you'd gotten used to it though. I mean, it was donned for 6 months after all!
It fits your personality so well though!
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Post Post #8408 (isolation #511) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:18 pm

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:D
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