Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[Clemency]

hey mr scott whatcha gonna do
whatcha gonna do make our dreams come true

[Clemency]

do i gotta
i was hoping to like, play the game

[Clemency]

town lovers with uh, whats his face

[Clemency]

muh316
thats the one

[Clemency]

this game is big dumb doodoo

[Clemency]

i can do that, arch nemesis

[Clemency]

VOTE: dongempire

[Clemency]

i think we're doing this nemesis thing wrong

[Clemency]

i think michael's way of doing things is boring and boring people smell

[Clemency]

also consider the fact that this could just be an easy way for mafia to take the town leader role

[Clemency]

"hey guys we have a 66% chance if we do this follow me whoo heyyy"

[Clemency]

also the fact that he was so willing to just call the easiest lynches the scumteam

[Clemency]

i can play this route
VOTE: michael

[Clemency]

but doesn't it feel a little convenient to you

[Clemency]

like, i understand - and agree with the strategy and i'm ok with going along with it
i'm just critical about how michael spearheaded this campaign

[Clemency]

make sure you dont hurt a muscle reaching for all those narratives

[Clemency]

make sure you dont hurt a muscle reaching for all those narratives

By not lynching in the VT, you're gamethrowing.

thats so fucking scummy lmao
i'd know because i say that all the time

[Clemency]

i can't tell if michael is bad scum or just town with extreme confirmation bias

[Clemency]

What does the third mafia lover do? is there a love triangle in mafia

is that an attempt at a townslip

[Clemency]

okay it is an attempt at a townslip lmao

[Clemency]

i can't tell if michael is bad scum or just town with extreme confirmation bias

Confirmation bias about?

all of your arguments against me are centered along the idea that me being scum is a fact
"i'm scum therefore i'm scummy"

[Clemency]

yeah kill this

[Clemency]

If you guys derplynch me because "Strategies that maximize town wins are SCUMMY and I HATE logic" then here's an appeal to emotion,

LYNCH CLEMENCY/MUH

while I laugh at you guys in the dead thread.

scumclaim

[Clemency]

Good to see you here Dong and 2ndStory.

I agree with my Lover. VOTE: Michael

This is so hilariously scum.
Bambi's partner wouldn't do the "Good cop bad cop" play here, as it's directly disadvantageous.

If you guys derplynch me because "Strategies that maximize town wins are SCUMMY and I HATE logic" then here's an appeal to emotion,

LYNCH CLEMENCY/MUH

while I laugh at you guys in the dead thread.

^scumclaim
this is a desperate attempt to claw their way out of being lynched by pretending to be okay with getting lynched

[Clemency]

What does the third mafia lover do? is there a love triangle in mafia

is that an attempt at a townslip

ISO him it’s literally all that’s in there are these contrived townslips

If you think they’re forced get back on the wagon with me

i'm going with michael first thanks
unless he stops pretending that the only reason people want him dead is because they "dont wanna go for their win con"

[Clemency]

nope he's not stopping
lynch this

[Clemency]

nope he's not stopping
lynch this

No. You're prob scum, Bambi is just derp.
Muh wants to quicklynch cos partner.
0verki11's gonna vote me the moment he arrives as well.

Lolwagons looks like the only reasonable person here, and Egix too -- which Bambi has already called him a 'shit partner' for.

i like how you only give credibility to the one person who's defending you and is suspect as your scumpartner, as well as the one guy who's irrelevant to the whole argument

[Clemency]

But

- if idiot town derplynches me, he gets auto-cleared because of this.


I know Jay's opposed to logic and reasoning and likes trolling around, too.

these fucking attacks on character lmao

[Clemency]

holy shit he's just given up by now

[Clemency]

crazy strawman bro

[Clemency]

holy shit he's just given up by now

Hell na, pretty sure the correct solve is {Clemency, Muh316, 0verki11} and it's also painfully obvious.
You flip me, town lynches you. So I'm relatively fine with my death.

^scumclaim
^scumclaim
^scumclaim

[Clemency]

crazy strawman bro

What was the argument that I strawmanned, and what was the strawman?

Much salt. Such fun.

On the plus side, next time you try going "He's using logic therefore scum", no one's gonna listen to you.
"He may be correct but that doesn't mean right" one more thing you said.

When I'm dead, do you think Clem would be scum?

[Clemency]

Pedit: Well obvious itd have to be Clem and meh if you flip town. But you won't.

Woah, you used reason

fucking lmao

[Clemency]

crazy strawman bro

What was the argument that I strawmanned, and what was the strawman?

Much salt. Such fun.

On the plus side, next time you try going "He's using logic therefore scum", no one's gonna listen to you.
"He may be correct but that doesn't mean right" one more thing you said.

When I'm dead, do you think Clem would be scum?

"Much salt" isn't an argument

wow it's impressive how you could fixate on the exact least important part of that entire post

[Clemency]

wow it's impressive how you could fixate on the exact least important part of that entire post

Which part was that, "Such fun"?

are you pretending to play dumb or are you actually just that clueless

[Clemency]

fine i'll try it again

[Clemency]

crazy strawman bro

What was the argument that I strawmanned, and what was the strawman?

Much salt. Such fun.

On the plus side, next time you try going "He's using logic therefore scum", no one's gonna listen to you.
"He may be correct but that doesn't mean right" one more thing you said.

When I'm dead, do you think Clem would be scum?[/quote]

[Clemency]

is this more visible to you

[Clemency]

if you want i can neatly underline and highlight it for you too

[Clemency]

^this is such a blatant attempt at shifting attention off of themselves

[Clemency]

Hellz na.

VOTE: Michael Scott

Now,

lynch Clemency after my flip.

stop scumclaiming we get it already

[Clemency]

i'm just gonna go play super meat boy until you lynch michael

[Clemency]

Clem and meh aren't even posting anymore ATM and there's still chaos. No way scum just shuts up here, right?

Clem posted six minutes ago.

i made a single post and it was about how i'm gonna bail for now but ok

[Clemency]

Clem and meh aren't even posting anymore ATM and there's still chaos. No way scum just shuts up here, right?

We're more intent on solving the game.

no you're fucking not lmao
you were giving me shit for trying to lynch scum rather than follow your set in stone lynch order

[Clemency]

you were giving me shit for trying to lynch scum rather than follow your set in stone lynch order

Quote my lynch order.

vt's

[Clemency]

crikey

[Clemency]

wrfwjipwnäpsifndgäpasirnbgäpasibgâbrg

[Clemency]

i'm bored

[Clemency]

imagine getting scum to l-1 and then everyone starts listening to him

[Clemency]

because i'm a threat to him

[Clemency]

because you're working your way on sowing the seeds of doubt right now so you don't get lynched day 1 and i dont have the energy left to keep telling people

[Clemency]

no you cant give up i'm giving up

[Clemency]

whatever the new ets2 dlc is out

[Clemency]

bless

[Clemency]

i'm excited to see the narrative michael derives from this

[Clemency]

holy fuck vote michael

[Clemency]

ruby red vote michael

[Clemency]

vote michael he's scum

[Clemency]

i'm gonna be so pissed at all of you if you actually fall for this shit

[Clemency]

i will remove all of you from my myspace friends list

[Clemency]

fear me

[Clemency]

or how about we lynch scum

[Clemency]

UNVOTE:

instantly asked to replace in once i saw the shitwagon on obvtown MS

so what's going on

is obvtown ms always this scummy

[Clemency]

wait is this game nightless

[Clemency]

oh shit

[Clemency]

wait is this game nightless

just to clarify this isn't a townslip attempt i just actually didn't notice

[Clemency]

wait... you... can't be town?

it's me or michael since i townread bambs

[Clemency]

because i like you

[Clemency]

and i like the gem

[Clemency]

i feel like you guys wouldn't even bother trying to mediate me vs ms if you were scum

[Clemency]

and i'm hella tunneling ms and there's only one scum lover so

[Clemency]

tunneling is just a nice way to say conf bias but ssh

[Clemency]

no

[Clemency]

problem

[Clemency]

buddy

[Clemency]

yeah thats what i was trying to say
thanks mike

[Clemency]

oh right i'm supposed to be acting mad at you

uhh

fuck you mike

[Clemency]

[Clemency]

that's what i'm doing

[Clemency]

anyone here speedcube
what's your times

[Clemency]

https://lichess.org/NvTiNVfy
play me

[Clemency]

The fuck is a speedcube.

rubik's cubes
solving them
like
nyoom
fast

[Clemency]

well then the question wasn't directed at you, was it

[Clemency]

https://lichess.org/NvTiNVfy
play me

offer still stands

[Clemency]

it's okay they're boring anyway

[Clemency]

@humble request to town:

pretty please hang Michael now? 70 percent chance the game ends here and now, and 30 percent chance me and Clem get to enter Mortal Kombat with each other and be entertaining AF.

It's a win-win for everyone. Well, except Micheal and McQueen and probably lolwagon.

If you suspect me vote me and lynch between VTs

ms is more likely to be scum than you

[Clemency]

you're better than i expected
even with that weird queens gambit accepted opening

[Clemency]

[Clemency]

guys
stop arguing
just vote mike

[Clemency]

So @Bambi and @Clemency, do either of you have a truly

legitimate

argument for why town shouldn't strive to have that 5:3 town:scum ratio on day two rather than a 4:3 town:scum ratio via lynching a claimed VT today rather than a claimed town lover pair?

Both of you have been shading our slot all game long for extremely bad reasons, and yet neither of you have made an

intelligent

argument as to why lynching a claimed town lover pair over a claimed VT is the optimal strategy that gives the town the greatest chance of winning the game on day two in the event that the day one lynch is a mislynch.

There is simply no logical reason to fight the strategy of lynching within the claimed VT pool as town.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

we're not fighting any strategy
we're lynching scum
when there's a scumclaim, you don't keep voting vts, you vote the scumclaim

[Clemency]

Gg clem
That castle throw made me feel bad though lets play sometime again

yeah dang i thought i had you so bad
late game is my weakness

[Clemency]

yeah lolwagons this is really obvious

[Clemency]

[Clemency]

the screams of jake peralta fill you with determination

Save LV1

[Clemency]

Save LV5
god knows you didn't spare toriel
you monster

[Clemency]

vote mikeyboy

[Clemency]

if bambs is scum i can beat her

[Clemency]

put me in
put me in coach
why i oughta

[Clemency]

ruby pls
there's no point following theory when we already have one scum

[Clemency]

VOTE: Dongempire

Bless.

Now we need two of Ruby/Mcqueen/Bambi and this nightmare will end.

VOTE: dongempire

[Clemency]

i'm okay with this

[Clemency]

if it's scum, i was most likely wrong
if it's town, we have the scumteam

[Clemency]

VOTE: Dongempire

Bless.

Now we need two of Ruby/Mcqueen/Bambi and this nightmare will end.

VOTE: dongempire

You don't get to outdo me in being spontaneous and weird.

VOTE: Dongempire

Only I get to do that.

but that's the only reason i get universally townread every game

[Clemency]

[Clemency]

i think i'm gonna start using these

[Clemency]

opinions

[Clemency]

if it's scum, i was most likely wrong
if it's town, we have the scumteam

Can ya explain this slightly, Clem?

if it flips town, lolwagons + ms is scum in my eyes
if it flips scum, i was probably wrong about ms

[Clemency]

Are you stealing my brainwaves or are we literally just thinking the same thoughts, Clem?

maybe i'm just one of your many many alts gone rogue

[Clemency]

saving this for bambs one day

[Clemency]

crikey

[Clemency]

While he shitposts in every game he's in, he's not dumb.

someone gets it
you're still probably scum

[Clemency]

lmao

[Clemency]

dude i wish i was scum this game
my scumgame is not nearly this good

[Clemency]

fucking lmao
okay

[Clemency]

so let me get this right
town
-everyone supporting you
scum/dumb
-everyone not supporting you

[Clemency]

it's fine
dong flipping town is all the proof i'll need

[Clemency]

my methods are an enigma

[Clemency]

VOTE: michael scott
by attempting to vote me you have debased your entire defense
lynch this while i sleep so i can come back to a sweet red flip and everyone calling me a genius

[Clemency]

nah, you dont get to make excuses

[Clemency]

by you, voting a lover is against theory, therefore scummy

[Clemency]

and yet you want me voted

[Clemency]

why is that?

[Clemency]

could it be the same reason i wanted you voted all of day 1 despite what theory says?

[Clemency]

you dont have an excuse

[Clemency]

lynch this
i'm out

[Clemency]

(man i could feel that backtracking all the way over here)

[Clemency]

can i have that in english

[Clemency]

the moment lolwagons puts his vote on overkill we've confirmed the scumteam

[Clemency]

We wanted you dead but look where were at.

Sad for you, that Red's a good player?

more casual discrediting everyone thats against you and crediting everyone thats for you

[Clemency]

you're using every scum tactic in the book and i dont know how many times i need to point them out to have people lynch you

[Clemency]

sigh
keep blaming me for going after the scummiest player

[Clemency]

How would I get Clemency to listen to me though? He was extremely tunneled throughout and I can't think of anything I could say to make him listen.

Impossible situation

Townhunting, getting correctly townread, and getting your townreads to work with you really come with experience

What would you have said to Clemency in this particular game that you think would get him to listen to you?
Shitposting?
Cause then, nah

not using a plethora of scum tactics as town
if you're town, you wouldnt need constant shading, reverse psychology, trying to get the town to follow you rather than hunting scum

[Clemency]

i kept tunneling you because you kept doing scummy shit

[Clemency]

but sure, blame me for "not listening"

[Clemency]

by all means, the first lynch should have been you based off policy if nothing else

[Clemency]

and as if you ever fucking considered bambs in the first place
you kept tunneling me for the shit i kept calling you out on

[Clemency]

holy fuck its post game
you can stop drawing your own misconstrued narratives now

[Clemency]

next time please play town to your win-con

[Clemency]

there's no jester in this game

[Clemency]

i'll admit the fact that i let my emotions take the best of me somewhat

[Clemency]

^he's right