Open 74 - C/9ths (Game Over!) before 601

[donkeyz12212]

random vote: Mokina

I love the Fritz link. pretty intense game that was it seemed.

[donkeyz12212]

That puts Mokina at a L-4

I think it takes 7 to lynch correct?

Still time. Are you nervous at all Mokina? How are you feeling.

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How is that suspicious? I'm just indicating the obvious

12 players, 7 players to vote mokina to lynch. Simply it.

Just questioning Mokina and her thoughts, thats all at this present time since she is the one with the most lynch votes against her (3)

[donkeyz12212]

ack im here. Been busy for a bit. Will reply later tonight.

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I find Snix to be more suspicious than Eldritch lord. Like Mokina said, there is a lot of analytical town read from Eldritch and I truly agree with her on that.

Snix, on the other hand, just gives off this weird vibe for me. Don't know what it exactly, perhaps just a hunch.

unvote: Mokina

I don't believe that Snix and Eldritch could be scum buddies since their open hostility towards each other in the posts on page 3.

vote : Snix

That puts him at L-3.

So basically the same thing I did to Mokina. Feeling nervous Snix?

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I have been overwhelmed with work as of late and haven't had a chance to reply or respond to the games I am in. I owe the host and the players an apology for sure.

I would ask for a replacement, but I just asked to be replaced in another game so it should limit the games I am able to focus on.

Sweatpants

Right, I was the third on the bandwagon on Snix. When he questioned me, what I was doing by putting pressure on Mokina, I was confused as to why he found my action scummy. Eventually he was called out by other players and his response was lackluster so I just put a vote on him to put pressure as I did with Mokina.

I assume this is what Darla is doing to me now;

I will say I am seeing some suspicious signs from Donkeyz as well, but I am not ready to take my vote off EL yet, I want to see what pressure will do to him, and how he will convince me otherwise.

1. Please indicate what signs you are seeing from me. Is it because I'm lurking, fine. I am lurking simply because I haven't had time.

2. But you noted "signS" with an s. That means its plural. What other signs has there been that has shown some suspicions.

In regards to the Lowell bandwagon, I'm not completely sure I understand it. It was started by Eldritch who a lot of people were suspicious of and apparently made a faulty case on Snix?

Mokina defends Eldritch and his pro-town behavior, causing people to suspect that they are scum buddies.

As I learn in my other game, looking for scum buddies is not the way to go but instead look for individual actions that make someone a scum. I think there were a couple of posts dedicated to quesitoning Mokina's defense.

I don't know if my case on Snix is as strong as it was before so I will just

unvote

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I can't vote Lowell without a clear head and conscience of what is going on.

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UNVOTE

There we go.

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I just went back and read all of Lowell's posts - 8 posts total.

He gives a bunch of one-liners like someone indicated earlier..

Post #1 - Random vote for TSN

Post #2 - Random post

Post #3 - Vote because Mokina corrected him

Post #4 - Vote Snix to support Eldritch ideas

Post #5 - Desire to keep talkative newbies alive i.e. Eldritch

Post #6 - Insistence to keep talkers alive

Post #7 - Goes back on what he says. Wants Snix and Eldritch gone because they are annoying

Post #8 - "wants a drink" - random post

All of these are one liners pretty much. To me, these don't seem like suspicious posts. These seem more like redundant posts which really doesn't show any signs of scum searching or desire to play the game. I don't really find him suspicious, just rather not contributing.

So I don't know what the case against him is if we only have like these 8 posts to judge lol. I don't find anything substantial in em but its more because he doesn't seem dedicated at the moment or interested.

Just my opinion

[donkeyz12212]

I think Lowell exerts this aura about him that screams "LYNCH ME, I DARE YA" and then turn up townie. I think he's more unhelpful than anything so I don't know if he is scum material. At any rate, the person most suspicious for me right now is Darla Blue Eyes

She makes 15 posts and changes her suspicions so many times that its confusing the heck out of me. Let's begin shall we with

Post 1 - Darla questions why TSN votes for Lowell on D1
Post 2 - Votes Iron Man
Post 3 - Votes Eldritch - Doesn't like his play style
Post 4 - Revotes Eldritch - Forgot to bold
Post 5 - Update post. She says she will post later
Post 6 - Asks Mokina why she defends EL. Indicates IC's not needed since this is not a noob game
Post 7 - Says she will read later

Post 8 - Understands that EL is new and thus his reaction to things.

- This post confuses me. She states

[quote] You don't handle the pressure well, which makes me want to keep my vote on you until I see more scummy actions from someone else.

Also you have been jumping around alot on your stance of players such as Mokina.

I just don't like how you are playing, thus my vote stands for now. [/b]

her reasons for keeping vote on Eldritch?
1. She wants to keep pressure on him
2. He jumps around on player's stances
3. She doesn't like how he's playing.

Reasonable suspicions? I don't know

Post 9 -Doesn't know why she's considered a lurker
Post 10 - Not in favor of a Snix bandwagon. Thinks EL and ZS could be linked but unlikely
Post 11 - Suspicious of EL, ZS, Donkeyz. Still not unvoting EL until pressure is done. Doesn't explain why donkeyz is suspicious except for seeing signs.
Post 12 - Concerned about Mokina - Another suspect.
Post 13 - Trying to draw more heat on EL
Post 14 - Suspects are EL, Mokina, and Dcorbe. Apparently ZS and Donkeyz dropped off the list.

I think Darla is giving options to the town as to who to lynch. She doens't offer any strong or concrete cases. She kind of plays with EL by keeping her vote on him continuously and just using reasons such as "I want to put pressure on him." After a couple of days however, the vote is still on him and there been plenty of people harping at him. So isn't that pressure enough?

It's highly suspicious her gameplay. And how she constantly jumps from suspect to suspect, at least going with how the village is doing. Only exception is Snix who she doens't think is scum.

My vote

unvote, vote: DarlaBlueEyes

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Where are the other players in on this. It seems its been

Mokina, myself, Darla, and Eldritch for the longest time.

I'll respond to Darla later on.

I'm nervous as to how quickly this bandwagon has picked up. Sure i think Darla is scum but Eldritch, Mokina's and TSN jump makes me worried considering it hasnt been 24 hrs since my post on Darla yet i believe?

[donkeyz12212]

I wasn't accusing you. I think you...misread...again lol.

[donkeyz12212]

Will respond later on.

been busy. That said, I don't know if Eldritch should be the lynch.

Seems like a mislynch and I can't believe how quickly things change.

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I'm a bit lost in the thread as to how things turn out the way it does.

The votes are so different and just all over the place all the time. I would prefer a lynch that would give out the most information as opposed to anything else.

I still favor a Darla lynch as she seems to be on most wagons or started a bunch of wagons. Also if Darla seems to turn up scum, it would make Eldritch more townie in my opinion.

There is a bunch of wishy washness.

unvote, vote: DarlaBlueEyes

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I still don't favor a Eldritch Lord vote. I do think he is a new person who is trying to justify his actions and I just seem to think he's pro-town more than anything else.

Snix is someone I suspect, along with Mokina but the fact that Snix is voting Mokina just confuses me.

I still think Darla is suspect in my view but I'll

unvote, vote Mokina

If Mokina turns scum, it'll relieve my suspicions of Snix that was pretty much set at the beginning of the game but died off.

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Graduation this weekend, be back after

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If I were to compare dcorbe and ED, I just think Dcorbe is more suspicious. I think EL is pro-town and has been ganged up on by people in my belief.

I have to read Darla's posts over again but she just really seem to spearhead EL's lynch and if EL does in fact turn up scum, it really proves her innocence to me. Something just doesn't seem right but I like to see dcorbe's flip.

Plus the way that dcorbe is talking right now, claiming and all this jazz, it really is scum lingo as they are about to get lynch. maybe it's just me reading too deep into it and what I've been used to.

unvote, vote dcorbe

[donkeyz12212]

Sigh this is all too tough -_-.

I don't favor lynching someone who is lurking at the moment because it won't give us information right immediately. So far it has come to EL and Dcorbe and Mokina. I think EL is town. I'm a bit iffy on Dcorbe and Mokina. So I don't really know myself.

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I think it's very unlikely that Mokina is scum because hammering at that time was such scummish behavior that put her in the spotlight SO much.

And is there a need for 4 people to give her an FOS? I think after the first time, it's pretty much understood, look at Mokina for her actions but it doesn't have to repeated. Her actions stand for themselves.

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I don't know if Iron Man is the right vote. It just doesn't make sense to me to target someone who hasn't been vocal but then again, do scum really lurk a lot? I don't really know the answer to that yet but I am really comfortable with voting Mokina for her hammer.

That was one of the more suspicious acts I've seen so far. And she was a suspect in the last round as well.

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Again with the bandwagon guys. I still consider that we shouldn't target someone who wasn't that influential on the last vote. Iron Man had just been lurking but don't you think scum would have pushed for dcorbe knowing they were scum? I just kind of see Iron as like...there. lol

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Okay , well reading that list Iron Man...all I really gathered from that was that you don't think anyone is scum really <_<

Even your eyes on the two people...

Eldritch - You don't think he's scum.
TSN - You're unsure.

It just seems that the list is redundant.

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TSN, you are switching on and off a lot on votes. Jumping from one to the other? Why? Are you trying to merely put pressure is that why?

I think scum is more likely to be active on a wagon because they themselves know who is scum and who isn't, so by being early on a wagon, they can at least try to get people to target someone they know is innocent.

I don't think on D1 scum would vote for each other as there are so many choices.

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My case on Darla wouldve been her flip flopping as I indicated on D1 as well. I prefer one of the big names to get lynched over someone like Ironman who relatively doesn't seem to have that big of an impact

[donkeyz12212]

Well considering how everyone is switching to Darla, wouldn't that make it seem like I am joining the bandwagon?

[donkeyz12212]

Wait what? So I look like I'm not town by withholding my vote because I thought people were quickly jumping on a Darla bandwagon? Granted I think she's suspicious but I'm not calling for everyone to jump on her so adamantly.

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Where are signs that I worry about what other people think? I tried to push for Darla on D1. Only argument was that I was a newbie and my arguments were newbish.

And I'm not really aggressive to be honest. I try to see as much as possible.

So what are those signs TSN?

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I wish I could reply lol but I think I know what your talking about. Whole different situation dude.

[donkeyz12212]

vote DarlaBlueEyes

Based on my first round suspicions...and the jumping around of votes.

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Mokina, care to tell me how I have jumped around in votes?

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Okay, So sidney, what is your case again me?

I accuse Darla of jumping on votes on D1. She calls me newb and that I mean good but its a wrong vote?

And she's gaining suspicions this round and I refer back to D1 and I'm scum for that?

And Lowell, what are you voting me for? It just seems you just hopped on in order to start the wagon against me.

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Explain your case against me TSN.

All I gathered from you is that I "worry about what people think."

How so. I just dont understand still.

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I indicated that voting Mokina or DBE would give the most information on D1. Mainly because Mokina was defending EL a lot at first then quickly against, and DBE for hopping onto different votes.

I still feel that EL is not scum because of the way he played at the beginning.

Lowell, didn't care about the game at all in the beginning but has picked up. I don't know where he stands on things since he was at first against me and now supports a DBE lynch. Seems like a hopper as well.

[donkeyz12212]

Unvote, Vote EL

I think he's a noob to be honest but I hope I am wrong and my hammer is justified!

[donkeyz12212]

you guys are hypocritical.

"donkeyz is scum buddies with EL, kill him if EL flips scum"

donkeyz is scum, because he laid the hammer on EL

[donkeyz12212]

Vote: Lowell

I think he's scum. Basically it.

DBE stop gunning for me yeesh. I'm already confirmed town psh.

[donkeyz12212]

unvote, vote sideny

I kinda think sideny was trying to get me lynched in order to protect EL. I was the next easy bet to get lynched after EL so it makes that they jumped on me.

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Sidney is the final scum. I'm positive.

vote: sidney

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If you guys notice and look at sideney's posts...

all he does is FOS - EL and other players. he only votes for TSN and myself, both of whom are cleared. The fact that Sidney was at first against EL and then backed away from it, just made it seem like he was against EL and then slowly try to draw attention away. Just my belief.

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Sidney is the last scum

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sidney's inactivity makes me think they aren't the scum. Iunno just my opinion

[donkeyz12212]

I'm pretty sure the town has this one in the bag.

I know for certain, 100% that scum is DBE or Knight (Sid).

It sucks that farside was cop and wasn't saved by doc. Oh well.

Everyone follow my vote on this one.

vote: DBE

TSN is cleared. I am cleared.

I'm 100% positive Armix is Town.

If you guys trust me follow my vote. If DBE flips town, Knights of Cydonia is the last scum.

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actually looking back at DBE's posts and her reaction to Eldritch in the beginning of the game, i'm more inclined to

unvote, vote Knights of Cydonia

This should be an easy win for town because if one of them flips town, the other is automatically scum.

It's a win win situation.

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If you notice, Sideney never actually votes for EL did she?

I know DBE did but Sideny jsut jumped on the EL accusation bandwagon but never went fully on it?

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Armix should not be lynched over Darla by any means. I am 100% positive.

Vote Knight and then Darla if Knight turns out to be town.

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yeah lol. No need to beat around bush.

I saved Armix night 1 after Eldritch's lynch.

So Armix is cleared.

Post 678. no one died.

I didn't think the scum would target the cop knowing full well there was a doc in the game after I saved Armix. I tried to save one of the clears instead hoping to fool the scum but guess not lol.

Sorry Farside! I also didn't believe farside at first so I was hesistant as well.

So if I saved armix, TSN and me cleared, it only comes down to Darla or the Knight.

That's why im positive, thats all.

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In the end its a win-win situation as if the knight isn't scum, then Darla must be. Unless TSN is scum and farside lied and ddint' really exam tsn <_<.

Otherwise I know armix is cleared more than anyone else.

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Thanks for the game Elmo!

had a great time.

Sorry Farside, I didn't believe you for some reason and like Elmo said, I was playing with WIFOM.