Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]


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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:01 am

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In post 1308, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1300, mbaki wrote:First of all, this is a very personal attack (as is this whole post, such as with the constant use of bullying) and I don't appreciate it.
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In post 503, mbaki wrote:I have great disdain for your style of play
In post 503, mbaki wrote:I much prefer MU to this site, the quality of games is signficantly higher in my experience.
In post 522, mbaki wrote:but I am bored of this interaction.
In post 586, mbaki wrote:I possibly think you're obnoxious and childish
In post 1049, mbaki wrote:I am not going to bother interacting with Fish because I think I will rage sub if I continue.
In post 1051, mbaki wrote:Please stop talking to me. I do not like you nor respect your play
In post 1077, mbaki wrote:You didn't do shit, and I dont know why getting reads out of you is like pulling hairs.
In post 1141, mbaki wrote:I think he's just awful
In post 1255, mbaki wrote:You are in la la land


Pot calling the kettle black much? But I'll tone down my rhetoric from now on.
(While I appreciate this)

He never responded to any of the post other than the addendum. Lol.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:09 am

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vorkuta says he wont claim unless there is an intent to hammer i think

dont think any questions were directed at me but i skimmed the past few pages because thats a lot of reading im kinda busy but i want to play
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 1568, Vorkuta wrote:Then why would rb breadcrumb scum if it goes against rb's wincon?
crumbing is important to traitor so scum knows who you are

otherwise might as well be playing with one less player on scum team, and setup probably not balanced around that
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:12 am

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even if u ignore rb crumbs, i still think there is enough reason to lynch mbaki
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:17 am

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honestly dont think there are any lylo liabilities in this playerlist because lurkers step it up in lylo

as long as u dont troll, dont do anything dumb, and can string together thoughts, that's enough reason to take to lylo
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 1627, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1568, Vorkuta wrote:Then why would rb breadcrumb scum if it goes against rb's wincon?
crumbing is important to traitor so scum knows who you are

otherwise might as well be playing with one less player on scum team, and setup probably not balanced around that
You're still assuming rb thinks the same as you do.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1629, OkaPoka wrote:because lurkers step it up in lylo
I wouldn't townread someone who started doing things just in LyLo, so there's that.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1628, OkaPoka wrote:even if u ignore rb crumbs, i still think there is enough reason to lynch mbaki
The self vote is the only other explanation I've seen from you.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:24 am

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i guess that rb might have been thinking diff but shouldn't it be standard for traitors to crumb?

yeah but im just saying i dont think anyone is a large enough liability to be lynched

only for yyotta

@dannflor should be enough
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:26 am

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I've played traitor before and I didn't crumb once. But maybe I'm just bad.
In post 1633, OkaPoka wrote: @dannflor should be enough
It's not.
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:26 am

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look at mbaki's iso again

tell me why he got mad and is it actually justified
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:27 am

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In post 1469, Dannflor wrote:Scum just doesn't self vote, not experienced players. It never plays to their win condition unless it's a hammer. Rarely, town can self vote and it does play to their win condition.
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:28 am

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when does town self voting play to their win condition


scum self votes to AtE
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 1104, mbaki wrote:prior to that Vorkuta crumb, I legitimately had no idea who was scum, I was wrong about one of my top townreads (it was sliding because rb can be read by engagement because he hates scum but still), and there are legitimately implicating things in rb's iso that people here are too new to not follow. I think the town wincon is followed by me getting lynched here, I'm not helping.
In post 1147, mbaki wrote:I voted myself because I had no confident reads (useless to town), I am not an important role (if I am a pr it is not something like a cop), and rb's posts to me looked the most like crumbing* (meaning I'd be a liability later on if we didn't hit scum) (*before Nero brought up Vorkuta essentially scum claiming). The fact I was not enjoying this game, combined with the fact I thought it actually might be optimal for town to get rid of me; my self-vote was not out of rage, hence the "Good luck town."
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:33 am

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ok

so why self-vote and not let others vote u up instead? let it happen naturally
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 1633, OkaPoka wrote:i guess that rb might have been thinking diff but shouldn't it be standard for traitors to crumb?
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:50 am

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In post 1627, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 1568, Vorkuta wrote:Then why would rb breadcrumb scum if it goes against rb's wincon?
crumbing is important to traitor so scum knows who you are

otherwise might as well be playing with one less player on scum team, and setup probably not balanced around that
This isn't true though. Traitors can easily just be antitown and disregard their partners, and/or fake a guilty mid game to secure a mislynch when necessary.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 1628, OkaPoka wrote:even if u ignore rb crumbs, i still think there is enough reason to lynch mbaki
Tunnelling is not a reason.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 1637, OkaPoka wrote:when does town self voting play to their win condition


scum self votes to AtE
I already answered this. Dann also pointed out where my frustration grew from the start of the day.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:54 am

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In post 1640, Creature wrote:
In post 1633, OkaPoka wrote:i guess that rb might have been thinking diff but shouldn't it be standard for traitors to crumb?
No
Is the tally 4 people that have told Oka this now?
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:03 pm

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@Dann

What I'm saying is that I feel a bit ignored. I'd argue that I've prob had the most impact on this game but you came in and talked about everyone else and then I and BEF were kinda "POE" scum. "Oh but Nero is townier than BEF." I'm townier than
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! If you wanna call BEF scum fine but he's not going to be the only scum in here so FMPOV it looks like you are pushing a LHF and then just leaving your options open to push wherever you want.

The paranoid part of me thinks that I'm going to be dead soon and you avoiding me feels like scum that knows they are going to shoot me so why risk getting into an argument with me?

Who else is scum besides BEF?
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:18 pm

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like it just feels weird that you haven't ISO'd me yet.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:37 pm

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Dann is town Nero. His scum game is markedly less analytic than what we've already seen. Also, you could try and argue you're townier than me in this player list, but you definitely haven't impacted the game as much. Pissing contest aside though, town bloc with Dann and start sorting other slots.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:44 pm

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In post 1640, Creature wrote:
In post 1633, OkaPoka wrote:i guess that rb might have been thinking diff but shouldn't it be standard for traitors to crumb?
No
Even considering the case where rb is not crumbing, you also have to rule out that scum is hunting for traitor crumbs which is exactly what vork seems like doing.

I think someone else asked me why else vork is scummy: vork shows up mainly to defend himself. his play added no value on day 1, cf some quotes by Nero, and today his reads (iirc) is basically omgus on everyone on his wagon.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:50 pm

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I didn't think he has any scumreads?
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