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[Invisibility]

i win with the cult or the town, not sure about u tho
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junko you pedited me thats not nice

[Enter]

no it is

i win with the cult or the town, not sure about u tho
afjdlfjasldkfjdsalkjfds
junko you pedited me thats not nice

The longer the game goes on, the more likely you are to get culted => you should want to end game early to increase chances of survival => you should push for non-survivor lynch d1

[Invisibility]

i mean the town could fess up but thats not necessary
i just need to either live when the cult takes over or i become a cultist, either way i win
though i'd prefer the former because i'd rather keep my current wincon

[Invisibility]

no it is

i win with the cult or the town, not sure about u tho
afjdlfjasldkfjdsalkjfds
junko you pedited me thats not nice

The longer the game goes on, the more likely you are to get culted => you should want to end game early to increase chances of survival => you should push for non-survivor lynch d1

i
win
with
the
cult
no
matter
what,
okay?
why
not
take
the
instant
guaranteed
foolproof
nonmeddling
win,
huh?

[Invisibility]

DAE enter is the townie?

[Invisibility]

the plan i've presented is only bad for the town because the townie has a chance to just straightup lose

[Annadog40]

In that case, Eraser is at l-1 last I checked if you'd rather go for a survivor win con.

[Enter]

winning w/ cultist is against survivor wincon. it might be for future you's wincon, but current you wincon (if you're survivor) is to not get culted or lynched

[Invisibility]

winning w/ cultist is against survivor wincon. it might be for future you's wincon, but current you wincon (if you're survivor) is to not get culted or lynched

it is?

[Korina]

No, survivor wincon is to live till the end.
Doesn’t matter who the hell wins the game. A fucking jester could win the game, and as long as the survivor is alive at the end, they win.

It’d be pro-surv to try to assisst the cult (or town) to win the game because that means

the game ends sooner

[Invisibility]

indeed

[Enter]

indeed

so then vote for FA

[Korina]

I think Enter is confused surv or town trying to look surv.
Regardless, can we please hammer him?

[Invisibility]

enter you're acting like survivor is a group faction. its not. this isnt a regular game with a cult thrown in the madness. in this set up, survivors must take into account being culted because they are not currently in a group.

[Invisibility]

brb need to pet dog

[Korina]

FA is also surv or cult to me.
I’m not gonna support their lynch regardless.

[Korina]

ALSO

the post was:

That was not a survivor post. I think Junko is either the cult leader or the townie.

Not:

I don't think Junko is a survivor.

Also wtlf is this post?
“Junko is either cult or town”
That means Junko is either cult or town,

not

surv to FA

[Enter]

No, survivor wincon is to live till the end.
Doesn’t matter who the hell wins the game. A fucking jester could win the game, and as long as the survivor is alive at the end, they win.

It’d be pro-surv to try to assisst the cult (or town) to win the game because that means

the game ends sooner

I think Enter is confused surv or town trying to look surv.
Regardless, can we please hammer him?

enter you're acting like survivor is a group faction. its not. this isnt a regular game with a cult thrown in the madness. in this set up, survivors must take into account being culted because they are not currently in a group.

FA is also surv or cult to me.
I’m not gonna support their lynch regardless.

someday i might meet a more contradictory person. it will probably be a long time before that happens though, and the chances are pretty low that it does.

ALSO

the post was:

That was not a survivor post. I think Junko is either the cult leader or the townie.

Not:

I don't think Junko is a survivor.

Also wtlf is this post?
“Junko is either cult or town”
That means Junko is either cult or town,

not

surv to FA

it's almost like.... wording matters.

[Enter]

the invis quote in that first stack doesn't belong there. it belongs here. My response is: No, i'm not thinking of survivors as a group faction.

I will try to explain this as simply as possible:

Invis: If you become culted, you lose as a survivor. Getting culted = failed survivor wincon. Being dead or culted = not winning as a survivor.

When you become culted you another wincon and things get messier. Town could turn and start lynching cultists because the other survivors decide to start lynching. In order to stop this you should find town as early as possible to achieve a victory. It's almost like cultist wincon is similar to survivor wincon

[vonflare]

Vote count

5 to lunch (4 to no lunch)

Enter 3 - junko, korina, FA

Frozen angel 1 - enter

No lunch 1 - invis

[Enter]

game gets weird when people don't play to their wincon firebringer, invis

and super weird when people just lynch people cuz they don't like thme, not cuz they want to win :bigeyes: korino

[Annadog40]

the invis quote in that first stack doesn't belong there. it belongs here. My response is: No, i'm not thinking of survivors as a group faction.

I will try to explain this as simply as possible:

Invis: If you become culted, you lose as a survivor. Getting culted = failed survivor wincon. Being dead or culted = not winning as a survivor.

When you become culted you another wincon and things get messier. Town could turn and start lynching cultists because the other survivors decide to start lynching. In order to stop this you should find town as early as possible to achieve a victory. It's almost like cultist wincon is similar to survivor wincon

What insentive would the survivors have for siding with the one town as apposed to the two cult? The greater numbers would achieve a more likely victory as survivor. That is if cult can recruit survivors.

Oh and enter is at l-2, junko's post got me confused.

Lynching a survivor today would put the one town at a greater disadvantage since cult would have a greater plurality. I think the best bet for survivor and cult if cult can recruit survivor is for erasure to be lynched unless he is the cultist.

Eraser, are you the cult? If not than survivor and cult has no incentive not to lynch you.

[Korina]

Ok, so, my current reads are:
{FA*, Invis, FB, Me} - Surv
{Enter} - Non-Surv
{Anna, Junko**, Selynee} - ???

*FA could be cult, however, I’m unsure of this.
**Re-evaluating Junko has lead me to be unsure of their alignment.

Regardless of this, I’d like to lynch Enter the most today.

Pedit:
Getting culted increases a surv’s chances of winning. It’d be better for survs to cultside this game.
If recruited, they have more vote-power, therefore less likely to get lynched in the first place. Past a certain point, cult takes majority and can powervote no-lynch each day until the townie is recruited.
For example, if d1 we lynch surv and surv gets recruited: 1v2 + 3
D2 cult lynch, surv recruitment: 1v2 + 2
D3 cult lynch, surv recruitment: 1v2 + 1 - Surv is forced to cultside, cult has two people v 1 player, otherwise cult powervotes nl, recruits and wins.

Survivors have a better chance of winning if they cultside and/or are recruited.

[JunkoChan]

@enter This comes directly from the mafiascum wiki: A Survivor is a lone player whose goal is to live until any other faction achieves their Win Condition, be it Town or scum. If the Survivor dies, it loses.

Survivors are not known for getting any kind of compensation to help them achieve their Win Condition.

[Enter]

the invis quote in that first stack doesn't belong there. it belongs here. My response is: No, i'm not thinking of survivors as a group faction.

I will try to explain this as simply as possible:

Invis: If you become culted, you lose as a survivor. Getting culted = failed survivor wincon. Being dead or culted = not winning as a survivor.

When you become culted you another wincon and things get messier. Town could turn and start lynching cultists because the other survivors decide to start lynching. In order to stop this you should find town as early as possible to achieve a victory. It's almost like cultist wincon is similar to survivor wincon

What insentive would the survivors have for siding with the one town as apposed to the two cult? The greater numbers would achieve a more likely victory as survivor. That is if cult can recruit survivors.

Oh and enter is at l-2, junko's post got me confused.

Lynching a survivor today would put the one town at a greater disadvantage since cult would have a greater plurality. I think the best bet for survivor and cult if cult can recruit survivor is for erasure to be lynched unless he is the cultist.

Eraser, are you the cult? If not than survivor and cult has no incentive not to lynch you.

wait does cult not win when town is dead? if not then i was mistaken in my previous approac to game and it's more important to find and murder cult, because town can't do anything to survivors at night. unless cult can't recruit survivors and then i guess it doesn't amtter