Open 742: C9++ (Game Over)

[PenguinPower]

That's quite an undeserved, and inaccurate, personal attack.

Glad to be here.

[PenguinPower]

I kinda want to just lynch A50.

[PenguinPower]

As I recall...Open 668, but I was scum and you replaced in and ruined it for me.

So...

[PenguinPower]

As I recall...Open 668, but I was scum and you replaced in and ruined it for me.

So...

[PenguinPower]

As I recall...Open 668, but I was scum and you replaced in and ruined it for me.

So...

There you go. So, IF you're Town you are following a trend of SRing me anyway.

My advice is for you to ISO me and point out (to yourself) what scummy things I did so far, and IF you can find any, try to think why Town!me could do them too. If you can't find a Town motive, then and only then can you come back to me with your homework and if you're not satisfied with my answers you can glue your vote on me for the rest of the day.

Did you really just emphasize "if" I'm town?

[PenguinPower]

Why not vote A50?

[PenguinPower]

Because he's a null read, as I explained in my post. Going after the leaning scum read who has not contributed and who everyone let feign activity the whole day today.

It was a waffly read, and easy to pass off as null. I don't like it.

VOTE: A50

[PenguinPower]

Also, Gnelf is the one in the voice call, what are you talking about

This is true though...

[PenguinPower]

@mod:

Sorry. I’m v/la until Saturday.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Almost50

[PenguinPower]

I mean...it's in your best interest right now to go ahead and give your reads.

[PenguinPower]

That’s obnoxious. If you have a guilty, what good is his readslist? He can manufacture and falsify anything he wants. Just out it.

If you don’t have a guilty, I’m going to tunnel you after A50.

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@Oka

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Lovebird is in this game? Not posting?

Scum.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

I got an innocent on gamma

[PenguinPower]

Like...that does nothing to explain your actions wrt Egix.

[PenguinPower]

I really just want to lynch Gnelf right now.

Gonna see if that feeling passes.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Gnelf

The feeling didn't go away.

[PenguinPower]

Gnelf is definitly town here, im not vote them.

Why is Gnelf definitely town?

[PenguinPower]

Guys, Gnelf is saying he declared he will investigate in the upper half of the table (as it appears on page 1)

No it's not, and now I really want to lynch you again.

My gut...it is a fickle thing.

[PenguinPower]

Then why give Gamma a clear while "gambitting" on Egix?

[PenguinPower]

But if he's in your potential GF/SK pool, why give him a clear?

You said to let him and me lead the game.

[PenguinPower]

If you think Gamma has the potential to be GF, then why post this:

This is the part where gamma and pp take over the game k thx bye

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: A50

Still don't like the Gamma clear, but I'll lynch you tomorrow if you're still alive.

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Maybe read Gnelf's posts.

[PenguinPower]

Missed the retraction and resubmittal where he changed reference to your post and not post 0.

Still want to lynch him.

[PenguinPower]

A50, not you.

[PenguinPower]

Lovebird is likely goon.

[PenguinPower]

Hmm...

VOTE: Egix

[PenguinPower]

I think A50 meant that Gnelf's "top-half minus Gnelf" became Gnelf's bottom half for Gnelf's purpose.

Top half of the player list - Gnelf is Gnelf's bottom half for reference when it comes to copping and GF discussion.

I could be wrong though.

[PenguinPower]

Does anyone disagree that Lovebird is scum?

I really want to go there right now.

[PenguinPower]

Fairly consistent meta...but ok.

Why Reaper?

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Yeah...early scum flips are bad.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not completely sure.

But I'm more sure than any other slot atm.

[PenguinPower]

I'll move on for reasons, but the slot is likely scum.

Why Reaper?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: ReaperOfSouls

Bonzai

VOTE: Reaper
For your sake I hope this is correct

VOTE: Reaper

3 dead townies voted reaper yesterday *yawn*

Only 1 was on at eod.

[PenguinPower]

Is the Lovebird scumread meta-based?

Fairly consistent meta...but ok.

[PenguinPower]

Oh god.

That avatar is back.

[PenguinPower]

Again, that's the bloody problem. Your predecessor was never really here. She faded into a dark corner early in the game and I didn't even remember she was in the game until recently.

This is true. I didn't even know Lovebird was in the game until it was called out.

[PenguinPower]

We just finished that game...

What does that do to your Gnelf read?

[PenguinPower]

Barring hammer memes I don't think I've ever gambitted.

Me Gambit.

[PenguinPower]

Ok...

[PenguinPower]

I mean, I said Lovebird was scum...

VOTE: TTTT

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

I actually want to reserve my vote for now. Still think Lovebird slot is scum though.

[PenguinPower]

Pengy plz jump on one of these wagons
scum is happy stalling out the game until we get these closer to lynch

atm I'll reserve my vote for the hammer.

[PenguinPower]

I don't really want either atm though.

Sell me on one.

[PenguinPower]

whatever

Intent to hammer Egix

Claim.

[PenguinPower]

Ugh...Lovebird meta and TTTT play are clashing.

Brain hurts.

[PenguinPower]

How is it not?

[PenguinPower]

Um...no.

[PenguinPower]

I mean...from Gnelf's POV you should be confirmed Godfather/IISK...so...

[PenguinPower]

He suspected GF/SK in here:

Gamma Emerald -

Hmm

mmm

...
ReaperOfSouls -

VT

Egix96 -

Goon

MariaR -

VT

Dunnstral

Doctor

Why is it [dumb] to state that from his POV, given the setup where there is a confirmed GF or SK, that you are confirmed GF or SK?

[PenguinPower]

Because vig has been a bad shot if vig?

Still...not sure massclaim is good either. Still thinking.

[PenguinPower]

Someone could have called out or confirmed Gnelf on his claim if they were town-aligned unless my brain is completely broken (completely possible atm). So...I don't think massclaim is beneficial.

[PenguinPower]

Are you referring to me?

[PenguinPower]

Stop it.

[PenguinPower]

I have a problem reading A50 reliably.

I actually am having a tough time because I have no strong town reads right now, which shouldn't be the case at this point.

Mechanically, I want to lynch you. Meta-wise, I want to lynch TTTT. Play-wise, I want to lynch Gamma.

I'm confused atm, so I'm going to let things happen.

[PenguinPower]

You should clarify that since you've already claimed.

[PenguinPower]

Locks you in to your claim and clarifies the setup more.

Unless you want to give us another inno or a guilty.

[PenguinPower]

I thought I could dictate? No?

[PenguinPower]

Is there a Vig or a SK?

[PenguinPower]

If Gnelf is 1-shot it's most likely SK

How do you figure?

[PenguinPower]

No.

[PenguinPower]

Correct.

Gnelf. Please claim your full role.

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Also correct.

[PenguinPower]

CCCCDMT

With Cop, Doc dead. Inno on Gamma. RB, GF, SK still alive.

Doesn't explain why you weren't RB'd.

I mean, you're dead or RB'd tonight soo....

[PenguinPower]

do you want last night's results or nah

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

I'm assuming he has a guilty or he wouldn't have full-claimed

I think I want to lynch you right now.

[PenguinPower]

Argh...that is yuck.

I'm breaking for tonight. Revisit in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

I really don't like TTTT slot - removed from my nostalgia from the player.

Again, reassessing in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

Thank you. Finally an outside opinion.

Next up, 0verki11.

[PenguinPower]

Urgh - liking A50 more now.

0verki11 needs to provide some content.

I stop the passive bullshit late game

[PenguinPower]

In 1122 you said three on my list flipped town so I don't know what the hell you are talking about...

You have NO DOUBT that Gamma could be Scum when Gnelf wasn't RB'd on N1 and all the other 4 on his proclaimed check list have flipped.

[PenguinPower]

Oh wait...

(and I find it overly amusing that the kills follow your read list)

[PenguinPower]

Can we lynch both of them?

[PenguinPower]

Yes.

[PenguinPower]

Can we lynch both of them?

[PenguinPower]

I don't actually.

I'm not really going to do anything else until I hear from 0verki11.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not really going to do anything else until I hear from 0verki11.

[PenguinPower]

Like...Clem and 0verki11, if town, are making this a lot harder than it should be...

[PenguinPower]

What is it that makes TTTT seem more townie?

[PenguinPower]

We have time.

I'm not opposed to that (obviously given my statements in this game), but we have time. I want more from Clem and 0ver.

[PenguinPower]

I kinda feel that way about either of them right now, which is why I want more.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t really want to think right now so someone explain what happens to Clem if we lynch him and he’s town.

[PenguinPower]

I do the bidding of the Penguin.

Stop it, or we're lynching you.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t really want to think right now so someone explain what happens to Clem if we lynch him and he’s town.

Um.. erm.. he join the dead thread?? Same as in if he flips Scum, actually.

You know what I mean.

[PenguinPower]

I want you to vote who you think we should lynch today.

[PenguinPower]

And also your reads should Clem flip town.

[PenguinPower]

Look at 740/741/and this game. Tell me why Clem's scum based on activity.

[PenguinPower]

My problem is that I don't have good town reads. I usually have at least a few, but there is to much interference atm.

[PenguinPower]

Yes. I broken image.

Just like my heart.

[PenguinPower]

If we get it wrong today, we have one more day right?

[PenguinPower]

Not lynching a lurker then.

clem/0ver may be scum, but they aren't SK.

TTTT slot is probably not sk given it is Lovebird slot.

Gnelf is either Cop or scum with Gamma.

Guess I want to lynch A50.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: A50

[PenguinPower]

I don't think A50 would gamethrow

I would hope not...

[PenguinPower]

Meh.

Gamma's right. No lynch today and see what happens. It's the same as lynching town.

We lynch Mafia. SK kills one town. 1v1. SK wins.

We lynch SK. Mafia kills one town. 1v1. Mafia wins.

We lynch town. Same result as a no lynch, unless SK/Mafia hit each other.

I'm on glass number 2, so tell me if my logic is wrong here.

[PenguinPower]

Btw...disappointed in A50, but we can discuss that post game.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: no lynch

[PenguinPower]

Haha.

Unexpected, but appreciated.

[PenguinPower]

Not according to A50.

[PenguinPower]

Kinda crazy the mod confirmed inno made it to the end

PenguinPower replaces VeridianCleric, thanks!

Scum will never shoot the IC this game. PP doesn't do shit when he's unconfirmed, so I would expect him to not even be reading as IC.

Guessing A50 was leading the scum team.

[PenguinPower]

Glad you’re back TTTT. Sorry for the skepticism...it was more your predecessor than you.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

My read on you wasnt a “lynch A50 because he’s A50” read. Sorry if you think that.

You were scummy to me and your whole blacklist ate actually impacted that towards a town read, which I though was fairly lame after your lynch tbh.

[PenguinPower]

So what’s your definition of blacklisting if it is not “won’t play in the same game as you?”

Because that’s my understanding of blacklisting.

This seems like a sore loser more than anything else, but ok.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry that correctly scum reading you leads to that, that but you do you.

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Wow....