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Post Post #2900  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:46 am

In post 2891, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2888, Ramcius wrote:
In post 2877, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2876, Ramcius wrote:You using Occam's razor, when you can't prove anything? Either of other 3 can be scum, scum might chose not to use their ability (I don't see any advantage for scum having their day rep, especially, if this ability is public), there no confirmation that all 4 is from BOONus rounds. In short, you try to lynch me on some unconfirmed speculations

So, can we get TLK today? We need to deal with SS claim. No one want discuss his last second vote on Theta D1 either


Occams Razor is a method used to prove and/or explain something. And we do have confirmation on 3 of the Day Reps also being BOONus round winners.


"Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that essentially states that the simplest solution tends to be the correct one."

Your solution isn't simplest, you just want easy mechanical lynch


IMO, it's the simplest that has been presented so far. The rest is mostly WIFOM


Indeed, it's your opinion. IMO scum didn't used ability, because it would put all reps under pressure after this ability is revealed

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Post Post #2901  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:49 am

    Davesaz
    Ramcius
    DrewVa
    Karmeleon

    If there is a bullet point,
    that means they have voted
    to end day.
you know because if youre going to go in on that theory you need to be certain it actually works the way youre assuming it does
maybe boon served us scum on a platter
or maybe they can pick anyone
Last edited by Boonskiies on Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #2902  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:50 am

In post 2899, Xtoxm wrote:"opportunity to pick one of themselves"

could you highlight the part that precludes using it on someone that isnt themselves?


I don't get what you mean

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Post Post #2903  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:51 am

In post 2895, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 2889, Thanos wrote:
In post 2879, Cheeky Dancer wrote:BEF we're not lynching Ram. Ram is not scum.

~ C

If day 3 and 4 we find his theory is correct, you do know this confirms ram as scum right?

Pedit@ram, if we find out later that his theory is correct, how do you explain that? Or would you rather answer this when we find out if he's right or wrong


What's the theory?

~ C


In short:
The four day reps are chosen from the winners of the BOONus rounds. Ramcius is the only one in the four who wasnt even in a BOOnus round (the other 3 won BOOnus rounds). So that hints that the scum used their ability to select one scum player to be on the four day representatives.

We'll need more info from tomorrows boonus round to confirm. But Boon did say that "it would become obvious as the game progresses" on how the 4 day reps are chosen. So this theory isn't exactly a stretch.

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Post Post #2904  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:54 am

In post 2902, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2899, Xtoxm wrote:"opportunity to pick one of themselves"

could you highlight the part that precludes using it on someone that isnt themselves?


I don't get what you mean

Can scum nominate anyone of the 23 players or does it have to be scum? Does it specifically say so? I dont think scum would pick non scum as a day rep though, UNLESS, they knew how the day reps are chosen, which is doubtful.

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Post Post #2905  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:58 am

In post 2904, Thanos wrote:
In post 2902, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2899, Xtoxm wrote:"opportunity to pick one of themselves"

could you highlight the part that precludes using it on someone that isnt themselves?


I don't get what you mean

Can scum nominate anyone of the 23 players or does it have to be scum? Does it specifically say so? I dont think scum would pick non scum as a day rep though, UNLESS, they knew how the day reps are chosen, which is doubtful.


The way I interpret the factional ability post is that scum can just choose one member of the scum team. It's not obligatory for them to use the ability but if they choose to then they can only pick a scum member.

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Post Post #2906  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:59 am

In post 2904, Thanos wrote:I dont think scum would pick non scum as a day rep though, UNLESS, they knew how the day reps are chosen, which is doubtful.

thats fair
just checking people werent taking it for granted
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Post Post #2907  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:06 am

Day end doesn't have such an effect now, but in a scenario where there are fewer remaining players it's gonna be huge. If scum do well in their bonus games and then use their ability they could control 50 percent or more of the day end vote which would be huge..

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Post Post #2908  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:07 am

I am fully committed to lynching Ram today. But if there is not enough support from the rest of you then how about this.

Since Ram is now on suspicion of being scum, can we agree that he should go ahead and place his End Of Day vote so that it will render his End Day vote less powerful. That or we decide that he shouldn't use it at all and let the other 3 Day Reps decide when they want to end the day?

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Post Post #2909  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:12 am

VOTE: End day

as you wish, BEF

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Post Post #2910  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:13 am

In post 2907, Alonzo wrote:Day end doesn't have such an effect now, but in a scenario where there are fewer remaining players it's gonna be huge. If scum do well in their bonus games and then use their ability they could control 50 percent or more of the day end vote which would be huge..


This is assuming the BEF theory.

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Post Post #2911  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:13 am

I think him not using it at all would be most beneficial. This way if he does vote to end the day we can see that as a pure scum claim.

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Post Post #2912  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:14 am

EBWOP

Should Ram leave the vote or unvote and sit on it for the remainder of the day

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Post Post #2913  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:15 am

why does everyone have a hard on for ending days early
we had a deadline lynch and it only got 4 votes
its a terrible idea
putting a placeholder vote on ram while hes voting end
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Post Post #2914  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:20 am

In post 2909, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: End day

as you wish, BEF


The more I look at this vote, even though I asked for it, itfeels strange. He has been trying to discredit my theory and suddenly wants to comply with me without any input from anyone else...

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Post Post #2915  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:21 am

UNVOTE:

Either way works for me

Can you guys explain, why TLK is bad lynch for today? Cause I'm getting irritated, when everyone ignores my attempt to lynch him

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Post Post #2916  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:22 am

It depends on if you are lynching him b/c you think he's scum or if you are wanting to lynch him so you/some other lurker want to suicide on him.
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Post Post #2917  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:25 am

In post 2914, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2909, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: End day

as you wish, BEF


The more I look at this vote, even though I asked for it, itfeels strange. He has been trying to discredit my theory and suddenly wants to comply with me without any input from anyone else...


Yes, I disagree with your theory, cause I'm town. Why should I fight something that would lessen chance of my lynch? Anyway, nothing of it is AI, tbh, I wouldn't make anything that proves me as scum as either alignment

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Post Post #2918  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:27 am

In post 2916, Nero Cain wrote:It depends on if you are lynching him b/c you think he's scum or if you are wanting to lynch him so you/some other lurker want to suicide on him.


I haven't seen anything to change my read on him, so I still believe he's scum. Also, sorting out SS is in town interests too

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Post Post #2919  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:32 am

I'm getting here so late b/c

This happened.


Spoiler:
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I'm ok, thanks for asking but gonna have a heckva bruise tomorrow. I was in the white truck.
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Post Post #2920  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:34 am

Eh, SS said they'd do things later. If they don't we lynch him. I won't support a TLK lynch except for you or a lurker to suicide on it.
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Post Post #2921  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:38 am

In post 2920, Nero Cain wrote:Eh, SS said they'd do things later. If they don't we lynch him. I won't support a TLK lynch except for you or a lurker to suicide on it.


SS I mean super saint

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Post Post #2922  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:39 am

In post 2915, Ramcius wrote:UNVOTE:

Either way works for me

Can you guys explain, why TLK is bad lynch for today? Cause I'm getting irritated, when everyone ignores my attempt to lynch him

well i won't talk for others but
1. i havent found him scummy particularly
2. we can get better info from how his wagon ends up if our numbers are such that it can be coordinated sensibly
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Post Post #2923  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:42 am

In post 2896, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:
Last Night Tomorrow FACTS!!!

Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!


@xt
They can only pick one of themselves.


I don't get how this makes Ram scum??
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Post Post #2924  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:42 am

In post 2922, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 2915, Ramcius wrote:UNVOTE:

Either way works for me

Can you guys explain, why TLK is bad lynch for today? Cause I'm getting irritated, when everyone ignores my attempt to lynch him

well i won't talk for others but
1. i havent found him scummy particularly
2. we can get better info from how his wagon ends up if our numbers are such that it can be coordinated sensibly


He won't get lynched normally due to his claim

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