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Post Post #2925 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:43 am

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  • Davesaz
    Ramcius
    DrewVa
    Karmeleon

    If there is a bullet point,
    that means they have voted
    to end day.
Ram, you have my full support to suicide on him.
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2926 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:45 am

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In post 2903, Thanos wrote:
In post 2895, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 2889, Thanos wrote:
In post 2879, Cheeky Dancer wrote:BEF we're not lynching Ram. Ram is not scum.

~ C
If day 3 and 4 we find his theory is correct, you do know this confirms ram as scum right?

Pedit@ram, if we find out later that his theory is correct, how do you explain that? Or would you rather answer this when we find out if he's right or wrong
What's the theory?

~ C
In short:
The four day reps are chosen from the winners of the BOONus rounds. Ramcius is the only one in the four who wasnt even in a BOOnus round (the other 3 won BOOnus rounds). So that hints that the scum used their ability to select one scum player to be on the four day representatives.

We'll need more info from tomorrows boonus round to confirm. But Boon did say that "it would become obvious as the game progresses" on how the 4 day reps are chosen. So this theory isn't exactly a stretch.
Oh this makes more sense. I don't see why the mod would do that though?

Where does it say that the winners from the boonus round become the day reps? If there are only 3 boonus rounds then it makes sense that one of the reps will be choosen randomly.

Were the winners told that was part of the prize?
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Post Post #2927 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:48 am

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Another thing is that there was one round where there were 2 winners - so how was that decided? Do they get the option of being a rep or are they just selected without their knowledge.
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Post Post #2928 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:49 am

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In post 2926, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 2903, Thanos wrote:
In post 2895, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 2889, Thanos wrote:
In post 2879, Cheeky Dancer wrote:BEF we're not lynching Ram. Ram is not scum.

~ C
If day 3 and 4 we find his theory is correct, you do know this confirms ram as scum right?

Pedit@ram, if we find out later that his theory is correct, how do you explain that? Or would you rather answer this when we find out if he's right or wrong
What's the theory?

~ C
In short:
The four day reps are chosen from the winners of the BOONus rounds. Ramcius is the only one in the four who wasnt even in a BOOnus round (the other 3 won BOOnus rounds). So that hints that the scum used their ability to select one scum player to be on the four day representatives.

We'll need more info from tomorrows boonus round to confirm. But Boon did say that "it would become obvious as the game progresses" on how the 4 day reps are chosen. So this theory isn't exactly a stretch.
Oh this makes more sense. I don't see why the mod would do that though?

Where does it say that the winners from the boonus round become the day reps? If there are only 3 boonus rounds then it makes sense that one of the reps will be choosen randomly.

Were the winners told that was part of the prize?
Not necessarily, there were actually 5 BOONus round winners and only 4 Day rep spots.

The winners were not told it was part of their prize. Boon simply said that the method for choosing Day Reps will become "obvious"
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Post Post #2929 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:49 am

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In post 2927, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Another thing is that there was one round where there were 2 winners - so how was that decided? Do they get the option of being a rep or are they just selected without their knowledge.
Those 2 winners are both Day Reps. Dave and Karm.
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Post Post #2930 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:50 am

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The issue comes from the 3rd game. We don't know who won that round we just know Ram wasn't in that group but is somehow a Day Rep.
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Post Post #2931 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:53 am

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Maybe there's another pattern we're missing. Surely Boon wouldn't out scum like that without forwarning. Also scum may have chosen not to select a dayrep OR scum choose a dayrep from scum in the winners.

To add gas to the fire I will say it bothers me that ram acts like he wants to die/doesn't care about the game but seems intent on lynching the unlynchable player to the extent of complaining about being ignored.
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Post Post #2932 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:53 am

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The two theories we have right now as to how Ram became a Day Rep is:
1. Scum used their factional ability to place Ram as a day rep.
2. Boon randomly selected him.
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Post Post #2933 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:55 am

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Like I said, tomorrow we will get more information and samples
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Post Post #2934 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:55 am

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Ok so say we lynched him - what would we learn from his flip as either alignment?
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Post Post #2935 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:58 am

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My votes not on ram atm. I think it's still too early to go on that theory. But if we find it to be correct later on, this does make ram highly likely scum.
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Post Post #2936 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:59 am

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In post 2934, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Ok so say we lynched him - what would we learn from his flip as either alignment?
We get our 2nd scum lynch in a row and a better understanding of the game mechanics. Also if Ram flips scum then we can throw TLK in the scum pile.
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Post Post #2937 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:02 am

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Ram could easily be scum with Flippy but I don't think that the day thing makes him scum.
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Post Post #2938 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:03 am

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In post 2849, mcqueen wrote:
In post 2820, profii wrote:Why is the 4th end of day person scum?

Why can’t it be that scum just didn’t use that power and Boon has to fill the slot ?!
Cause it would’ve been the 4th boonus round winner (remember group b had 2 winners)
Interesting point



Just to be really clear - I take it game winners were not told they were going to be day reps because they won their games?

Leading question: ie if scum were within the game winners and knew they would be a day rep because of their victory , they don’t need to use their power to get control of the day

Ooooor I guess if the answer is yes they could use their power to get 2/4 votes
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Post Post #2939 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:04 am

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In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:
Last Night Tomorrow FACTS!!!

Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
Since scum aren't multitask does this take the place of a role ability when used?
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Post Post #2940 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:07 am

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I don't see benefit in scum taking a dayrep spot tbh. Those players are under the highest scrutiny.
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Post Post #2941 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:10 am

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It gains scum utility the later the game gets I think. Really the only thing I see getting a day rep would be good for is to blitz one of the days. Secure the win maybe? Or essentially force a lolhammer out of town.
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Post Post #2942 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:12 am

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Are we assuming the original day reps were chosen at random?
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Post Post #2943 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:13 am

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I agree with Thanos that we should wait until at least another phase has passed to see if winners are usually dayreps.

Pedit - nah you can't get away with a bliyz or lolhammer in this game. If you look at how people jumped on the last day reps who voted and how we ended because of deadline/not the reps - it's easy to deduce that you can't stick your neck out pushing for a fast day as a scumrep.
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Post Post #2944 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:16 am

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In a Mylo situation yes you very well could. I'm saying I don't see a ton of use outside of long gaming it.
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Post Post #2945 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:17 am

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Most slots are going to assume winners become day reps but what happens if it's an alternating pattern?
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Post Post #2946 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:17 am

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I assumed there wouldn't be dayreps at mylo/lylo for some reason.
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Post Post #2947 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:18 am

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Oh you may be right actually.
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Post Post #2948 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:22 am

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So of the original day reps only Alonzo participated in a boonus round. We did Lynch one if the day reps so that could change things.

All but 1 day rep on day 2 participated in the boonus round, all of these were also winners of their respective games.

Does the theory winners become reps hold up as the playerlist shrinks? Once we get down to 12 only two boonus games will be played. Does that mean there will be a decrease in day reps as well? If not, how would the other day reps be chosen?
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Post Post #2949 (ISO) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:25 am

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In post 2948, RCEnigma wrote:So of the original day reps only Alonzo participated in a boonus round. We did Lynch one if the day reps so that could change things.

All but 1 day rep on day 2 participated in the boonus round, all of these were also winners of their respective games.

Does the theory winners become reps hold up as the playerlist shrinks? Once we get down to 12 only two boonus games will be played. Does that mean there will be a decrease in day reps as well? If not, how would the other day reps be chosen?
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