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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:05 pm

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With a semi open setup it seems less likely that boon would provide cover. Which leads me to think that as scum they'd fake a role better. I need to look at Nips flip real quick.
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Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 3249, Nev and Max wrote:I mean either way, I think that a. If provided boon wouldn't give them something immediately identifiable as a fake, and b. Think that as scum they would fake something better.
It's not immediately identifiable. None of
you
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Profii claimed it day 1 and we don't know for sure if scum have daychat. Him claiming was of his own accord, probably not his scum buddies.
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 pm

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Nips flipped one shot. I doubt he is going to be the only 1 shot on the scum team, and they would have been able to figure out something was off with a joat claim. Profii wouldn't know that before he made the claim. Unless your thought is that he claimed that because TLK claimed SS and wouldn't know about the 1 shots, which would mean he's town.
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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:08 pm

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its only like 8 pages but I feel so behind.
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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:09 pm

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In post 3253, Nero Cain wrote:its only like 8 pages but I feel so behind.
You got this man. How you feeling?
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:11 pm

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Elsa why is TLK scummy to you? I see he's a newish player so I don't really expect a ballsy fake claim from him as scum. I also don't see why scum would claim the role if it were a scum role. Looking over his ISO I'm left feeling like he's towny enough to avoid a lynch at this stage in favour of others.

What changed for you to not mind hammering him today? Yesterday you jumped off after the claim and sat on Theta. Are you no longer scumreading Theta?

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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:13 pm

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better. Not as sore and I haven't had a headache today. Still a few bruises but eh....
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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:15 pm

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Why I dont mind hammering him is because I no longer want to fake claim, so I might as well die now if I'm wrong on TLK being scum and he's actually Town. Like people say, I'm a liability sometimes. We kill me, the SS did it's job. Win-win.
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:17 pm

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I don't see how killing two town is win-win

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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:18 pm

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In post 3255, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I also don't see why scum would claim the role if it were a scum role.
They wouldn't. SS and a few other roles are explicitly stated to be of one alignment or the other in the set up posts.
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:19 pm

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In post 3256, Nero Cain wrote:better. Not as sore and I haven't had a headache today. Still a few bruises but eh....
Glad to hear it wasn't more serious, that pic looked brutal.
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 pm

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In post 3, Boonskiies wrote:Town Only
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Named Townie, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful,

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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:21 pm

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Scum claiming SS is very viable strat since its not like you want your vote on them or you can die. Especially in a setup where you don't have an actual VC.

Remember: he is NOT a noob to Mafia. Boon made that very clear. It's just his first time playing forum mafia.
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Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:21 pm

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Only way scum says "I claim SS" is if they are betting on there not being one in the game.
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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 2849, mcqueen wrote:
In post 2820, profii wrote:Why is the 4th end of day person scum?

Why can’t it be that scum just didn’t use that power and Boon has to fill the slot ?!
Cause it would’ve been the 4th boonus round winner (remember group b had 2 winners)
I think this is really important to note. Especially since no one, including scum, had figured out how the other days reps were selected, it could have been something the scum overlooked when they decided to put one of their ranks as a day rep. So it's all the more likely that the wifom argument indicates the more obvious answer of scum choosing to be day rep.

Now, I think it would make more sense for only one of the winners from each BOONus round to be selected because we have learned that there can be as many as 3 winners in each round. But if this isn't the case and more than one rep
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be from a BOONus round, then we know for a fact that scum chose someone to be day rep. And that would have to be Ramcius.

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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 3263, Nev and Max wrote:Only way scum says "I claim SS" is if they are betting on there not being one in the game.
Then it's a win-win to claim it for your comrades to know who to avoid hammering. He wasn't in a good position before his claim. He was literally keeping the VC pointing to his death.
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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:23 pm

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Damn that changes things. I still don't see how he's scummy apart from the vague accusations of busy work so if people could elaborate on why he's scum that would be appreciated.

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Pedit is that a risk worth taking though? Seems very ballsy.
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:24 pm

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Go big or go home. You think a friend of Boon IRL wouldnt do that?
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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:26 pm

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True that.
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 3265, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 3263, Nev and Max wrote:Only way scum says "I claim SS" is if they are betting on there not being one in the game.
Then it's a win-win to claim it for your comrades to know who to avoid hammering. He wasn't in a good position before his claim. He was literally keeping the VC pointing to his death.
So your contention is that he fake claimed SS knowing there was a chance for him to be countered?

I feel like the much more likely situation is that he is SS and is town. I don't think this is the hill we die on today, not when there are bigger fish to fry.
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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:28 pm

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In post 3262, Elsa Jay wrote:Scum claiming SS is
very viable
idk about very viable b/c ppl will eventually want that out of the game. But I agree that scum could claim that as to buy them a few days. I don't care if a bunch of scummy slots want to vote him but I think everyone else would need to unvote so as to make sure the TLK wagon happens.
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:29 pm

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You wont die if your wrong. I do.

I'll do you one better. I'm actually a Miller. I'm saccing my life for the cause here. Vig me if I dont keep my wors and hammer TLK.
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:40 pm

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O_o did Elsa just scum claim?

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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:43 pm

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No, I claimed traitor awhile ago Cheeky. I bolded it.

Help me out here in dying and taking out TLK as a possibility of being a Scum. In this setup trusting a SS is horrible. Get rid of me AND him.
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:46 pm

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Traitor and Miller aren't the same thing. Optimal play for a miller is to claim in your first post...at least before the first night phase...seriously wtf?

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