Micro 843 - Pop Goes the Nightkill (Game Over!)

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I am town, ask me anything

why are we voting?
when it's useless and it's more fun to...
HURT: RECK

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also I nominate Pengy to be the unofficial VC compiler
bc someone should really do it and it ain't gonna be me

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I'm strangely intimidated and intrigued by T..

that's disappointing to hear
I was going for soothing and uninteresting

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Why do you ask

why didn't you answer?

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yep me too
but imma just stay quiet here for a bit...

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Probably town tbh.

y?

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for whatever it's worth I immediately went to check if my role PM had color when I read your question

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and I would have said "black" if you'd asked me that question

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i used to have a different color scheme for different alts
but mafblack looks too sketchy when I'm on my work computer

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@T, why did you reread your role pm when Ari initially asked his question. That seems odd. I reread mine, but I didn't do it until Ari pointed out role PM's had no color.

I assumed there was a reason behind the question
and I was like wait did my PM even have color
and the lightbulb went off that if it didn't then the question was a trap
so I was interested in how it played out
23 and 29 are in this context
and now everyone townreads me and scum makes me their first kill
should be a fun game

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Why me?

bc otherwise you won't do anything until the end of the game

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Though too many townreads on reck has me paranoid.

count me as not TRing Reck

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there's actually a bit of stuff going on in this game that you could be commenting on
and that's your hot-take?

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@Pengy- viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77896

I knew I should have said the reason was because everyone trusts in your integrity
but I couldn't help myself!

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Why would you assume there was a reason?

bc there often is
sorry not really sure how else to answer that

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like I just assumed it
I wasn't thinking hmmm I wonder if there's a reason behind this let me weigh the pros and cons and analyze the probabilities
it was like hey this looks like there's a reason for this
and yep there was one
and now people are more interested in me noticing this than they are in Reck's response or Ari's TR of that response

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Though too many townreads on reck has me paranoid.

count me as not TRing Reck

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I don't agree with Ari TRing Reck for his response
sry thought that was clear

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but I do think Ari asking the question is more likely town
bc scum maybe doesn't take that risk not knowing for 100% that the town PRs are not green

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Both Role PMs are in the first post...

I know
there's always a chance the role PMs sent to players are not formatted the same as the role PMs in first post
especially when they are unusually formatted in the first post
that's kinda my point about scum not taking this risk

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Not a good reason to townread him alone.

Though I do currently have one on him.

your reasons?

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Maestro talk to me about Chickadee plz

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@Pengy - you are probably right about role PMs
and it really hurts to admit that

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and also I like the way you are reading the game
and that makes the woo-woo hairs on the back of my neck stand up

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mmh...

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does this look like the face of someone who has ever pocketed anybody?

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I've also never been mislynched
which is not what I expected

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like I could try and explain why I like the way you are reading the game
but you'll just think it's me trying to pocket you
so we'll just give it time
and someday you will TR me
maybe not this game
and maybe not the next
but someday
and for the rest of your life

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What a surprise! Does this aid in the townread or is it just a fun note?

are you asking if I TR Pengy bc I like how he's reading the game?
if so, yeah it contributes to viewing him more favorably when he sees things in a similar way

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This is relevant because??

he mentioned my avi and how it impacts my game
sorry dad I'll stay more on topic

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{CoA}
{Cheeky, PP}
{Ari}
{Chick, Maestro, Tx4} - Null
{Reck, Majiffy}

these aren't bad at all
Move Chick down to that bottom group
and I'm with you

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That's an oddly specific callout. Did you have something specific in mind?

nothing specific
but I didn't just pull it out of my ass either
for whatever that's worth

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I feel like you're conflating a few different things here. Is it that you "like how he's reading the game", or you think he's reading the game similarly to you? Both? I also don't see what him being right about sample role PMs has to do with how you think he's reading the game, or your thoughts being similar.

no the role PM thing doesn't have anything to do with why I like how he's reading

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Why do you scumread Chick?

when others were like what the hell TTTT you are an idiot
she looked to be subtlety throwing shade at me but without committing (40 and 71)
also looks lazy from start till now

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Is this something you plan on elaborating on?

sure but it's nothing exciting
like me checking my role PM for color

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Oh man...you skipped me.

I was TRing Cult and Cheeky
then you said both were town
last game we never agreed on any reads
yet both town
that's why my woo-woo hairs stood up

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plz for the love of Prof Hamm T Smiggles III
can we make "woo-woo hairs" a thing?

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I'm down if I get 5% of royalties once it takes a hold on MS.

deal

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@Maestro - do you have any reads at all you would like to share?

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These pockets feel less fuzzy than the last pair I was in

I'm including TTTT's inclusion of Chickadee

Literally the only TR we share is Ari and he's obvtown

What happened? I assumed from the first quote here that you weren't really town reading me.

Just prodding you to interact with me more.

hold on a sec...
you shade Chicka in 99 and 102
but Chicka doesn't interact with you after that
and you make no further effort to engage Chicka in convo
but now you say the purpose of the shade was to get Chicka to interact with you more
like chicka

does

keep telling other people that you are town (101, 148, 151)
but I see no effort at all from you to interact with Chicka in your 7 posts between 102 and 174.

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guess I didn't read it that way

Just prodding you to interact with me more.

interact with me more

with me

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like I really expected your response to be
relax TTTT I can't do everything at once and I'm getting to it!
that would have made more sense

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tell me why Chickadee is town

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got it thanks

@Chicka - how reliably can you read Majiffy?

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So far 100% accuracy...but the sample size of games is rather small.

and how reliably does he read you?
and remember, this is for posterity, so be honest

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I think scum Chickadee avoids the shit out of me this game and she's not being very shy about my slot.

I like this answer more than I want to admit
I mean it could come from scum!Majiffy just knowing Chick is town
but if Majiffy is town I think I can ride with this

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Also, still this...

@Maestro - do you have any reads at all you would like to share?

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VOTE: M
VOTE: A
VOTE: E
VOTE: S
VOTE: T
VOTE: R
VOTE: O

iso so ugly

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y this game so bad?
maybe it's the game set-up
maybe it's the playerlist
maybe it's maybelline

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I doubt voting him will have any effect...
Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.

you are not wrong
especially here
when voting does nothing more than share your takes

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y this game so bad?
maybe it's the game set-up
maybe it's the playerlist
maybe it's maybelline

No, it's you. Definitely you.

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so maybe everyone should declare their intended vote before Discussion1 ends
and obviously you aren't 100% locked in bc the impending kill could change things
but if someone changes from their intended vote based on the kill at least they have to explain during Discussion2
I have no doubt you all will find ways this is a terrible idea so have at it

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I'm not sure of the usefulness of town obfuscating in this set-up

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^I like this post
not the part about me being scum
the part where it looks like Chickadee is town

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^that be me

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I like Majiffy and Chick both more now
than I did a couple days ago

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TTTT are you familiar with anyone here?

just Pengy recently
I've been in games with Ari, Reck, and I think maybe Majiffy, when I played a couple years ago
but not enough to really have any kind of meta thinking on them

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As far as I can tell, two things happened really early on that turned me right off, and one of them was T4 talking to me like a child, while the other was people misusing the words "lurking" vs. "inactive" or "not around" or whatever, because they're very different and one implies I care a lot more than I do and was trying to antagonize the playerlist and the mod when I would hope it's clear I had no intention or desire to do that.

So let's fucking stop? Lurking is being around and planning posting times or some bullshit. Not posting is not posting. If yuo have a problem or think I'm doing the former, fine! But it's New-Year-new-me and it's annoying as hell so I'll call you on connecting dots where there are none.

• T4 is stil an edgelord. Seemingly taking stances that, to me, not many others are taking (45 69 116 does not make one town, even if he seems to think it does (43 and other posts seem to be along this line, mentioning "town wouljdn't do this, too risky" - literally puts forward the philosophy he thinks makes scum look town... which we can figure he would try to buck if he was scum trying to look town, makes sense to me) ALSO wik, he pushes Majiffy and Chick on how well they read eachother, and calls Chick town... but says almost nothing about Majiffy. I also don't like how much nhe comments on other ppls' readlists. Skeevy. "Woohoo hairs" gimme a break, you sound like a Sim or a Mii
  
  
• Ari's ISO is awful, not sure how he's been allowed to skate by on it so far; every single post without fail is either a joke or a question (no follow-up in sight), and he talks to people like he's a happy-go-lucky-0couldn't-be-less-serious-or-more-innocent-guy and cI basically agree with Reck's first post about notl etting that go because it's likely to bite us up the ass. Like, same kind of shit from above here, tho, and idc if I look too butthurt about it at this point, inactivity as reaction test is what I'll consider the last few days: (from 204)
  

  I doubt voting him will have any effect...
  Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.

  That, to me, does not read like somebody going "I am also interested in Maestro's alignement and I think we should pressure him" that reads as "meh, let's see if I can cast doubt both on the tactic being employed and the target of said tactic - maybe the game will stall even more, or Maestro will feel I've done him a favor by potentially letting up pressure and I will be seen as doing something even tho this isn't a Newbie Game and I'm not an IC"
  
  ugh
  
  OH I found another tidbit as I was finishing:
  

  TTTT is probably where my vote is going.

  This is the first mention of anything serious, and the first direct mention of T4 to somebody else, while his only interaction with T4 has been to joke about MafSilver (
  hint: it's the best, it's the first, MafBlack burns eyeballs
  ) and to, in his own words, "just be snarky" about the Role PM bs which was all NAI to begin with because most of the playerlist is SMART ENOUGH that this "my role PM is this color" thing means NOTHING - I should say about half of the list is smart enough that it means nothing, to the other half apparently it means enough to talk about it for 7 pages, more-or-less/on-and-off
  
• The only other
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  posts I had time to truly parse was the first bit of Cheeky, then Reck is scum with neither Cheeky norMan jiffy based on pages 3-5, and I don't think Reck/Majiff are super Town
  from their interactions with eachother specifically
  , but I definitely would agree that they're Scum together because of those. But honestly, literally anything can be faked if you're experienced enough, and yes, I fucking say that shit as either alignment because it's true anbd people who don't agree are wrong or not experienced enough to realize that it's true, one or the other.

thanks
It's helpful knowing which of my obnoxious behaviors bother you most
skip-diddley-do!

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We can argue over semantics after the game or you could give it a rest because I don't care? Terminology aside, if I get PM prod from mod that brings me back to the game, eez diffrent from sitting on my phone going "HA HA I KNOW I will sit here and force everrybody to wait around for all the NOTHING that I refuse to comment on right now"

nope
eez no diffrent for the other players in the game

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I think Maestro might just come across as naturally scummy tbh. I'm feeling less confident with TTTT.

tell me where our love was lost

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so maestro has outed exactly zero TRs

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T4 is stil an edgelord. Seemingly taking stances that, to me, not many others are taking (45 69 116 does not make one town, even if he seems to think it does (43 and other posts seem to be along this line, mentioning "town wouljdn't do this, too risky" - literally puts forward the philosophy he thinks makes scum look town... which we can figure he would try to buck if he was scum trying to look town, makes sense to me) ALSO wik, he pushes Majiffy and Chick on how well they read eachother, and calls Chick town... but says almost nothing about Majiffy. I also don't like how much nhe comments on other ppls' readlists. Skeevy. "Woohoo hairs" gimme a break, you sound like a Sim or a Mii

this is superficial and shows no real attempt at sorting
I'm a lightening rod for this kind of "lynch the weirdo" scum strat
tell me if I'm reading maestro wrong and he's always this aggro

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36 hours

@Pengy - other than the prodging thing, what you make of Maestro's posts?

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Ari, plz follow thru on your proper post on scum!me

I got scumvibes off of a bunch of their posts. I can do a proper post about it after work if you like!

You've PoE'd them as town? Meaning they are null but you have enough scumreads to place them as not scum?

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so I think if you are town you are probably viewing me the same way I am viewing you right now
which is "I really want him to be town and kinda think he is but I really can't say with much certainty so Imma just treat him like town until one of us dies or starts looking super scummy or we hit lylo."
is that accurate?

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I think I'd vote CheekyTeeky probs, eventually

but Ari dies first imo

have you played with maestro?
if so plz share thoughts

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doesn't matter vote ari

convince me
like this is all you've said about him...

I'm not letting jokey ha ha im so casual now lemme lurk away Ari get away with anything here

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that's correct

i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing and people always shout me down about it and then the last game we played town went full pants on head stupid and let ari cakewalk to victory because he lurked out early game and/or contributed nothing but jokes and shit

not having it happen here

if your standard is "lynching people that lurk and do nothing" then maestro is your lynch
this just sounds personal

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surely it ain't gonna be this easy

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i swear to God nobody better say that stupid Airplane movie quote!!

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someone remind me to post my saved draft later on as we get close to the end of Discussion 1

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since nobody else is commenting on Ari's case on me
I will
he's wrong
but he's wrong in a way that looks good

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I'm voting maestro
change my mind

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I think Chickadee is town
just saying that before I forget since I don't thikn I've said it before

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but the way he made a case on me is the way town makes cases on me
it was all "TTTT is trying to look town with all these posts and he's a fake fucker"
scum cases on me are more like "TTTT has bad reads and bad reasons for stupid things he does"

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but you are right that is his only content post

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VOTE: Alisae

Next: Alisae

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Because I still wanted Ari gone and thought I could get at least one vote on him, possibly two

Who did you think might also vote Ari after you?

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I think PP is actually pinging my tinglies the most right now but CoA's hammer was uhhhhhh superbad

why was CoA's hammer so bad?

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i would've probably voted for TTTT because he gave me weird vibes D1

"weird vibes" ^is _my ^town-tell

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I thought I would like this setup a lot more
than I do

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i have no idea where tttt stands on anything

then we are in agreement

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so I kinda wanna replace out and let someone else do my slot justice
I can't get into this game
I think replacing-out because you don't like the game is kinda douchey to the other players
and Mrs. TTTT didn't raise no douche-boy
so if anybody thinks this is cheap just say so in your next post and I'll stay

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omg I altslipped on my replace-out post
lol