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Post Post #45 (isolation #0) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:21 am

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i'm also a miller.
did not expect to see any millers claiming at all, inclined to think it's part of the setup. not discounting that mafia might have also decided to claim miller.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:29 am

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FA, Alchemist, davesaz, Lady, and me. i'm much less excited to be miller now, but it's certainly unexpected.
Lady's claim looks kind of like a joke, so i'd appreciate her clarifying on that.

pedit: hahaha.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:32 am

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i've never believed miller claims should be auto-lynched. it's one of my favourite roles to be. here it obviously is serving a different function in the setup.
FA is right about the lateness of the claim making it less likely town; though. but i don't know about the utility of scum locking themself into a suspicious claim on day 1 just because they see a lot of millers.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #3) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:32 am

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five millers. :>

sheep: it's NAI with Elsa.

and happy new year FA!
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Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:34 am

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i'm considering just calling FA conftown from her entire opening this game.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:06 pm

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In post 62, Maki Harukawa wrote:At least 1 of the millers is fake but I doubt it's FA or alch
*or Chara
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Post Post #100 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:52 pm

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In post 87, Kaito Momota wrote:Chara claiming miller is suspect, especially since at this point claiming miller is akin to outting town power roles
this is an interesting take from you. the anti-town aspects of me claiming miller when i did (and i think the reasons for claiming are better than the reasons against, anyway) are only anti-town if i'm town. if i'm scum it doesn't hurt town to do so, and being the last one to claim makes me most suspicious.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:58 pm

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one thing i've learned about elsa is he's a great vigilante target. go nuts. :>
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Post Post #103 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:44 pm

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personally i would find not claiming miller to instead keep my role unknown in the hopes that i could better obfuscate PRs to be a dumb and unecessary risk to begin with, and you suggesting i should have done that for some reason to be a dumb point. :>
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Post Post #106 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:53 am

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it's always a good day for a no mercy run.
VOTE: Pink Ball
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Post Post #144 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:44 pm

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town Elsa
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i don't have any Elsa scumgames, just hearsay that he's capable of fooling town with charisma. don't have any firsthand experience.

Pink: why do you think i'm town?
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Post Post #145 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:45 pm

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In post 131, davesaz wrote:Oh gee, I love it when noise outnumbers signal 10:1. :roll:
i stand by my vig target suggestion.
(<3 you Elsa)
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Post Post #150 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:49 pm

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it's very applicable, Elsa! it serves as a great example of your chaotic nature being NAI, as well as how difficult it is to read you.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:20 pm

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townpoints for sheep for liking my posting and calling the consensus towniest miller "wolfy".
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Post Post #218 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:58 pm

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In post 194, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 185, Chara wrote:townpoints for sheep for liking my posting and calling the consensus towniest miller "wolfy".
Sheep doesn't understand what he's saying, 50% chance to be town isn't "null", that's easily in lynch range, 70% chance to be town isn't really "wolfy"
what does any of that have to do with what i said about sheep?
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Post Post #219 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:09 pm

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sheep and FA are town, Alch is probably town that posts things that ping me for scum. Creature's start is good.
Elsa/Kaito can go.
Maki is ???
VOTE: Kaito
not aligned with Maki, i think.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #16) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:10 pm

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Pink's Maki vote/reasoning isn't exactly towny but i wouldn't call it bad.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
why is this scummy if he's scumreading you?
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Post Post #249 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:39 am

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In post 222, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 219, Chara wrote:not aligned with Maki, i think.
go on
you were voting her at the time, what do i need to go on about?
you didn't answer my question about sheep.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:45 am

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In post 243, Kaito Momota wrote:Sorry but no, you're looking pretty scum rn, you say things like this but you're usually scum when your posting is weak like this
you need to back this up, Wisdom can do stronger posting as scum to get townread and barebones as town.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:52 am

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In post 225, Maki Harukawa wrote:What do you like about Creatures catch up
i find this kind of an empty thing to ask, Maki, when Creature's opening was fine and normal for town-him. i said the same thing about it.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:32 am

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In post 279, Maki Harukawa wrote:It wasn't bad but it wasn't something Creature can't make as scum that's why I asked why FA liked it so much
i didn't see her saying it made him 100% town, it was just a start. the way you took issue with a pretty harmless townread looked a little odd to me. nothing she said about his catchup was incorrect. and all she said was a single line about how it was towny.

pedit: that doesn't make it less true. :P
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Post Post #293 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:36 am

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Kaito, you have to respond to my posts at some point. and don't tell me to quote them when my ISO is twenty posts.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:39 am

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In post 278, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 248, Chara wrote:
In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
why is this scummy if he's scumreading you?
Because when I flip town the way Wisdom is playing he's gonna get pretty much the least blood on his hands for my wagon.
i don't know, the only content of his entire ISO is "lynch Maki". and he isn't the type of player one tends to ignore in a game, for better or for worse.
what would town Wisdom who scumreads you be doing differently?
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Post Post #301 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:50 am

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what's your read on sheep FA?
Maki's preliminary read on Kaito would help me out too.

pedit: i'd like to hear what Maki has to say first, so i appreciate you not answering yet. :>
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Post Post #406 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:21 am

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Dunn is Dunnstral, in this game Kaito.

i have no interest in voting Wisdom for being Wisdom. his meta is not that he does more as town, and less as scum. Kaito said it was, but has yet to back it up.

i do think that if he's town he needs to try coming out with more than one read.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 378, davesaz wrote:
In post 372, Wisdom wrote:dave you should know better
Usually the people I don't think are scumhunting end up being scum.
VOTE: Wisdom
you should be voting Elsa then.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:27 am

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i've seen scum Wisdom who efforts and gets far with that. i can't read this Wisdom yet because he's so low energy, but the wagon on him is weak.
and is a little towny.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:27 am

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Kaito, what's your read on Maki and when did it change?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 347, Elsa Jay wrote:Maki is a good girl. Chara is a good murderer. Clemency is null bad boy. Kaito is forgettable. Pink Ball is scum.
oh, i forgot about this. okay, Elsa does technically count as doing things.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:33 am

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In post 294, Chara wrote:
In post 278, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 248, Chara wrote:
In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
why is this scummy if he's scumreading you?
Because when I flip town the way Wisdom is playing he's gonna get pretty much the least blood on his hands for my wagon.
i don't know, the only content of his entire ISO is "lynch Maki". and he isn't the type of player one tends to ignore in a game, for better or for worse.
what would town Wisdom who scumreads you be doing differently?
In post 301, Chara wrote:what's your read on sheep FA?
Maki's preliminary read on Kaito would help me out too.

pedit: i'd like to hear what Maki has to say first, so i appreciate you not answering yet. :>
hey Maki? :D
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Post Post #416 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:54 pm

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yeah Maki, sorry that wasn't clear.

Kaito: ignoring my questions and dancing around voting me back is a bad look. square up.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:56 pm

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right, and thank you for the answer on Wisdom as well. i'm not about to meta-dive him further than my personal experience, but i do see what you're saying there.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:30 am

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what i get is that this is NAI.
i ended up looking over my old games with Wisdom. it's easy because his ISO is always short, and he keeps a list of everything.

he could be scum or town here. i don't think there are any good indications of either yet.
disagree that Maki's statements about your meta make her scum, Wisdom. she's the one you're voting so there'd be an element of bias no matter what, and if that's your only point against her it's kind of shallow.

and also Kaito has been trying to shade me without committing to a vote, and he's on Wisdom for meta he refuses to actually back up.
never mind that he's sort of just refused to interact with me since our one conversation earlier. i think it's because he doesn't want to get into it with me and distract from Wisdom wagon/make Chara vs. Kaito an actual thing.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 470, Elsa Jay wrote:Would any of you scumread me for voting Wisdom despite me townreading him hard? Probably, but imma do it anyway.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because 5 is better then 4.
this is sort of why Elsa needs a bullet.
and voting any wagon that moved was his survivor play.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:30 am

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In post 482, Elsa Jay wrote:Shit, Chara noticed I'm using my style 4 this game. Thought I had everyone convinced I was using style 2.
i barely read you in Excalibur, but i remember you saying something in postgame about being confusing enough with counterclaiming town that mafia just killed you.
i think treating you as 3p in any given game is valid. that's how you play regardless.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:33 am

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Elsa's sort of playing the game here. he's doing it strangely but i see him doing actual things.

he also didn't answer my question about Pink Ball scum. am i muted this game, or what.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:37 am

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speaking of thoughts, i seem to remember you having opinions on what town Wisdom would do here, dave.
i'd also love your opinion on everything regarding Kaito. some of my read needs context, but it's context Kaito and Maki absolutely have, hence my focus there.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:38 am

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In post 475, Nikk wrote:Why is chara townish? Or would you rather not say?
how are you reading me Nikk?
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Post Post #491 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 335, Clemency wrote:fa's probably town
elsa smells but that's usual
uh
chara feels towny
could vote Clemency. not for this post specifically, but for his general contribution.
i like his avatar, however. :>
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Post Post #493 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:42 am

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kind of getting bored of all of these townreads while everybody proceeds to not listen to me. :
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Post Post #496 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:50 am

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here's the situation with Kaito. he caught my attention early on, caught my vote a bit later.
he voted Maki early on, never elaborated though i kept asking. agreed with her Wisdom vote and changed to that wagon, and has also been calling me scummy all game. no vote on me though. is just a bad post, and his meta on Wisdom is weak, because he's capable of not playing this weakly as scum. he doesn't have links for it either, and the justification is just vague
also awkward that Maki was who he was voting earlier with no explanation.

"trying too hard to show i'm town", i thought this might be a thought that came from town Kaito, but susbsequent interactions cleared that pretty quickly. now i just think he's avoiding a battle he knows he'll lose and hoping i lose interest/give up.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:51 am

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In post 495, Elsa Jay wrote:Wisdom qualifies as this because this wagon on him has literally no resistance
i am going to scream, and then i will cry, and you will all never see me again because i
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Post Post #498 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:52 am

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you're still voting Wisdom, Elsa, you aren't fooling anyone. :>
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Post Post #501 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:01 am

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Pink: i don't think i've said your reads weren't valuable, or that you haven't explained them enough.
i like your Maki vote more than the Wisdom wagon, for one.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:03 am

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In post 500, davesaz wrote:@Chara, not quite sure what you're annoyed about in the quote that Pink Ball responded to.
not very annoyed. i seem to be pretty townread but no one has really engaged me on the Kaito issue.
it was a silly post to make, though, in hindsight.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:55 pm

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In post 605, Firebringer wrote:chara, can we talk about ur townread on Frozen. Cause I don't get it.
I have no read on frozen here.
the first miller claim is very towny.
the rest is... alright. if she hadn't claimed miller i wouldn't be townreading her, maybe a townlean? not sure.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 657, Elsa Jay wrote:The worst part is Creature had me more as town when I was shitposting, and when I finally take the game seriously, he goes "put Elsa and Clem on ignore". Holy fuck bro, if Clem ain't townreading you, then somethings wrong here.

Clem, pocket me back and tell me if this is Town Creature.
i've liked your posting a lot once you started taking it seriously!
the problem is i don't townread you for that. but i still like it!
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Post Post #720 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 705, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think this is trademark Elsa I don't think it makes them anymore obv scum if anything it's towny.
that post was more about Elsa's commitment to not being useful, which is now no longer an issue to me.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 712, Clemency wrote:^
i swear i'm getting a soft scumlean on anyone who tried to claim the past 10 pages or so were noise

thats exactly when we started getting real
i feel this, you were noise earlier but certainly not now. the last several pages are a lot but they've improved my read on you considerably.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 716, sheepsaysmeep wrote:yeah i think her reaction to/switch on creature was genuine just affected by emotions/confbias in the moment
no, i'm townreading FA on her play too, i'd say. (quote is a relevant contributor, but not the only thing.)

i find LA's pop in pretty scummy, she's just parroting "Elsa/Clem" noise as a reason to not be posting.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:12 pm

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yes.
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Post Post #769 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:55 pm

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In post 766, Alchemist21 wrote:You know I'm looking back at who was on the Maki wagon I don't like Kaito's posts. He threw down votes on Maki and Wisdom no problem but keeps dancing around voting Chara. There's some kind of scum hesitation there.

VOTE: Kaito
<3 for this vote, but why do you think he hesitates voting me, but not Maki and Wisdom?
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Post Post #774 (isolation #53) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:37 am

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In post 772, Kaito Momota wrote:This feels like a leading question, I don't appreciate it
how on earth is asking for your read on Maki at the time and why you unvoted her a leading question?
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Post Post #775 (isolation #54) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:43 am

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In post 770, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 769, Chara wrote:
In post 766, Alchemist21 wrote:You know I'm looking back at who was on the Maki wagon I don't like Kaito's posts. He threw down votes on Maki and Wisdom no problem but keeps dancing around voting Chara. There's some kind of scum hesitation there.

VOTE: Kaito
<3 for this vote, but why do you think he hesitates voting me, but not Maki and Wisdom?
I’m not sure; could be one of two things:

1) You’re both scum and he’s distancing.

2) He wants to sheep wagons instead of pushing one of his own to avoid negative attention.

Leaning more towards option 2 right now since an actual early vote on you would have helped it look better if he was trying to distance.
if we're both scum, wouldn't i also be bussing here?

option 2 does make sense.

i actually think the reason is because Kaito can't mislynch me, where he could mislynch Wisdom if Wisdom is town. and the Maki vote was early enough i no longer consider it an indication either way. thanks for the answer.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #55) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:45 am

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In post 780, Creature wrote:
In post 714, sheepsaysmeep wrote:fa take a step back for a second

you should know that really creature doesnt engage you like this as wolf
Thanks for the defense, but not buying the pocketing.
In post 256, Creature wrote:
In post 219, Chara wrote:Creature's start is good.
Pocketing noted.

Pocketing rejected.
hey Creature, recognizing your really easy meta as town you isn't pocketing. just a heads up. :P
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Post Post #792 (isolation #56) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 785, Frozen Angel wrote:Chara is playing conservative. I have issues reading him.
how so? i'm feeling pretty engaged this game and i'm trying to be more aggressive than i have in the past.

pedit: ironically, the above post is more pocketing-esque.
i've got Kaito, Maki is on the eh side of null, and there's you as well. :> a little paranoid of Alch at the moment but i think that's still me.
who are your three scum?
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Post Post #793 (isolation #57) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 am

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i really wish there was scum meta on Nikk, because i don't know what to do with him here.

is a monster of a post, and i'd kind of like to call it a miscommunication between what Nikk was saying and how Elsa interpreted it. i don't know if it's AI or if Nikk's distinct style here is, either, because the awkwardness could be simple newness or trying to be very logical and structured as scum.
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Post Post #830 (isolation #58) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:11 pm

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dealing with some things, i'll be around but less so. should only be for a couple of days.

note for me later: Alch is working with me or trying to pocket. i don't think he and Kaito are both town.

this game isn't all that noisy. Elsa's posting is also pretty good, i no longer want him shot. that isn't a townread, however.

Maki: how has Nikk been responsible for you and Wisdom fighting? as far as i can tell, Wisdom started it.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #59) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:17 pm

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if Maki's scum with town Kaito, i don't see her going after Nikk here. it's not a good idea, would be much better for her to join me on Kaito like she already said she wanted to.
i tend to forget these things if i don't save them in my ISO.

pedit: i'm not all that bloodthirsty, in the end, Elsa. i consider that fact a major character flaw and work to improve it daily.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #60) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:18 pm

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In post 806, Alchemist21 wrote:Hoo boy. Not sure if you genuinely don't know or if you're trying to poke the bear on that one.
what is this referring to?
you also said you didn't find some recent pages to be more than noise.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #61) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:46 pm

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ah, that makes more sense.
okay, i'm gone for the night. Pink should explain that Kaito townread.
i'm sort of getting the Maki scumreads.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #62) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm

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Pink, can you explain your Kaito townread, pretty please?
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Post Post #842 (isolation #63) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:59 pm

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thanks, Pink. that does help.
and here's my rebuttal, because of course i was lying about being done for the night.
pushing Maki being risky: he only voted her once at the very beginning, i don't consider that risky.
voting Wisdom: that's fair.
going under the radar: i actually think he's doing that. avoiding any engagement with me is good for scum Kaito. he wasn't able to explain his read change on Maki, either.
pushing me: he has no choice. scum Kaito hasn't made the choice to push me. the only time it was his choice was at the very beginning when he called attention to a few of my posts. he hasn't committed to pushing me and has only voted me to "get me to shut up about it", not out of any desire to get me lynched. he hasn't tried to. i'm pushing him, not the other way around.

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Post Post #845 (isolation #64) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 pm

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Kaito has played with me a lot. i don't expect him to know every little thing about my meta, but i
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i towntell when i heavily engage. i always towntell. he doesn't want to heavily engage with me, and is trying to use humour/his attitude to pretend like he doesn't care enough to. it's just a facade.

the only way Kaito is town here is if he's being so lazy he hasn't actually attempted to read me, but that "not going to be happy until Chara is dead" post pretty much discounts that.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #65) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:47 am

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you're aware the mason claim is fake, right?

is still a weird post and kind of a bad reason to scumread Wisdom. if you have knowledge that Wisdom plays in a way that you don't expect a nebulous ideal of town to, that isn't exactly a scumtell.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #66) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm

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it's the elsa who cried wolf. the story doesn't have to end with you getting eaten, though.
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Post Post #909 (isolation #67) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:48 pm

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it's obviously not my style to fakeclaim, but i know enough to be aware that if you keep doing it in the way you are, it isn't surprising that you gain such a reputation. and i don't see how it's saddening if you have no desire to change it. that's your bed you made, is it so bad?

oh, and.
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Post Post #912 (isolation #68) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 910, Kaito Momota wrote:I think what this game needs is more armchair psychologists to come in and explain what my thought process is and why I would care about them as town, and how how my scum play revolves around suiciding myself into them
this doesn't sound like you really scumread me. :>

i don't think you'd care more as town. what i think is this is just you pretending not to care as scum.

what part of your play is "suiciding into me"? it was minor discredits towards my slot and then basically ignoring me. none of that constitutes really attacking. and your vote on me was because i told you to. is that what you do as town, Kaito? if so, i apologize, i'll certainly reevaluate my opinion of your towngame in post. :>
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Post Post #913 (isolation #69) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:13 pm

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Kaito's still scum, by the way. i just think Lady Angel is also scum. Maki's another candidate for me, but i really want to see her reply to Wisdom (namely to him not buying her Nikk vote) before anything.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #70) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:30 pm

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did i say i wasn't going to show mercy? i always do in the end. unfortunately.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:57 am

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In post 932, Nikk wrote:
In post 931, Kaito Momota wrote:Lady Angel wagon is lazy at best and scum driven at worst, and anti-town fits in somewhere in between
I would agree with this. Chara and Sheeps votes in particular set of alarm bells.
this "scum never lurk" or "lurkers are always null" meta sucks, and leaves towns with multiple unreadable/useless slots in the endgame.
why's she town?
i'm scumreading her posting. the only good argument i've seen for her town is the miller claim, and she could have been told to do that.

i can compromise on Maki, but it's more of a lack of townread there than a scumread.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 am

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In post 928, Kaito Momota wrote:Can we move off of Maki onto one of these two? Wisdom? Pink Ball? Nikk?
what happened to your Wisdom scumread?
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Post Post #939 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:01 am

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i'd actually forgotten that Kaito was the one who said he was townreading the miller claim. that's on me, sorry.
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Post Post #940 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:07 am

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this game needs more frequent vote counts.

let's pretend i'm wrong on Kaito. why are scum sleeping on that mislynch? are they playing a backseat game where they wait for town to mislynch town? it's too early to really say. and it's always possible in a game like this that we just have lurker scum who simply aren't affecting the game much at all, so i'm not going to rely on that. that's for later when the game comes closer to the wire.

i've considered scum Alch, but if he's scum he's really committed to hiding in my pocket, and he also somehow predicted all of the miller claims. (his was second.)
i'm not willing to pursue scum Alch right now.

i have some reasoning for Kaito town i've been holding back to avoid weakening my own case/push.

the only reason to think of LA town is her miller claim, as Kaito pointed out. it was 4th, at that point i don't think it's outside the realm of being told to claim that/thinking it safe.
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Post Post #941 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:07 am

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In post 933, Creature wrote:I need a game to play.
there's a game right here. who's scum?
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Post Post #942 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:13 am

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on Maki scum: Kaito, why are you townreading her? please, no bullshit, i'm really sick of it. if you don't want her lynched you need to actually say why she isn't scum and why she's a bad lynch. this isn't a leading question, and it wasn't one when i asked it a damned week ago. defend your townread.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:05 am

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my read has nothing to do with that. i have a few things that have me sideeyeing Maki, but i'm waiting for her catchup first.

if you truly think she is incredibly towny (i don't think you are, though) that's cause for at least one raised eyebrow from me.
if Maki isn't caught up soon i'll just talk about the read.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:30 pm

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i'm referring to general meta that dislikes lurker lynches (i like lurker lynches situationally.)
not any meta about you specifically.
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Post Post #952 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:27 pm

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because it was relevant? Kaito was talking about lurker lynches and you quoted him in agreement.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #80) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:24 am

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Lady forgot to give a read on me. :<
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Post Post #975 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:25 am

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also 100% disagree with every miller dying before endgame. that's a silly rule. at
least
3 of the 5 millers are town.
modify your beliefs about setups based on the setup you're actually playing.
in class so haven't read all of it.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:56 am

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this is kind of a weird list and the reads surprise me. it's not survivalistic even a bit.
UNVOTE:
until i have time later.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:31 pm

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Lady: i have no idea about that, this is the first game i've seen this many miller claims. why a question instead of a read?
i think later miller claims are more suspect but i'm not discounting any scum that might have decided to hop on earlier, so i'm trying to independently read them.

as for avoiding mylo/lylo wifom: you can't. millers are also completely clearable. you can rolecop them, for one. there's no indication of if this game has a cop or a rolecop yet. if there's a rolecop, the miller claims are easier to sort mechanically than a PR or a VT.
and the odds of getting everybody who needs it in a game without miller claims the chance to have their alignment investigated is low, anyway.

miller is also one of my favourite roles next to traitor, so i acknowledge i'm biased.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:33 pm

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In post 979, Firebringer wrote:
In post 974, Chara wrote:Lady forgot to give a read on me. :<
i can pretend to be lady for a minute if you would like


*does best lady impression* "Chara is town because their playstyle is town and I always read into peoples playstyles their alignments".

:)
a surprisingly correct joke.

dave: going to sleep, if Maki hasn't posted game things by tomorrow i'll tell you exactly how i've been reading her.
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 1019, Alchemist21 wrote:How do y’all feel about a Wisdom lynch then? I seriously doubt Maki flips scum here.
why are you townreading her?
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 1038, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1036, sheepsaysmeep wrote:dunn feels obvious town

someone try to sell me
I don’t see why Town would dance around the Chara vote like he did. He was expressing a strong read on the slot, so why would he sheep onto two other wagons without voting Chara?
sheep, both Alchemist and i have gone into the read here. maybe tell us why Kaito is obvious town?
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:19 pm

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also i missed Alch's answer about Maria when i made that post. Alch, i don't like her wagon being a reason she's town. who are the scum who jumped on her wagon? it's not something you should be vague about. sure, Kaito was voting her, but not for long at all, so i'm not considering that. if she was really a mislynch that scum Kaito wanted (and i know you think he's scum) then why does he hop off, and who are the scum that stayed/joined and made the wagon feel too easy to you?
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:22 pm

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does remind me of scum Kaito, and is making me want the lynch more aggressively again. it doesn't need to be explained why jumping on bandwagon lynches is scummy. nor why the Maki defense that he's only explained now as being null on her, is scummy. it's blatant in being a discredit.
but let me go over the town possibility so i can see if it's valid or if i should discard it.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:27 pm

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In post 1046, davesaz wrote:
In post 1042, Chara wrote:who are the scum who jumped on her wagon?
Wisdom.
i was asking Alchemist, not you. Alch doesn't scumread Wisdom as far as i can tell.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:36 pm

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so here's why Kaito might be town: attitude, mainly. i could buy this attitude from town Kaito, and the fact he didn't want to take any of the opportunities to get me to townread him is another point in favour of town Kaito. scum Kaito has more reason to. i also think there's a lot of scum utility in not answering questions and discrediting everything that comes his way, though.

and the aspect of the possible townread that isn't based on tone is admittedly more WIFOM: scum Kaito tends to play it cool. he usually throws a townread at me and works with me. i'd thought that my attacking him early was the reason he felt he couldn't do this. i'm still wondering if that's right. plus, doing a similar thing as scum every single time is eventually going to stop working. considering he just fooled me as scum while doing exactly that, and i only caught on to it too late, i could very easily see him deciding to shake things up.
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 pm

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Maki isn't towntelling. and she's someone i'm always hesitant to lynch for a few reasons.

Maki's scumread on Wisdom isn't based on him incorrectly reading her, but on doing so without getting his hands dirty. i said this earlier, but he voted her and continued to encourage votes on her, and i don't see how that isn't leading a lynch. what else should he be doing?
he also isn't scumreading her for the miller comment. nothing in his ISO indicates that.

i didn't like her reach out to Wisdom either, like she wanted to springboard off of Nikk's to get a mislynch there and try to get him to change tracks. it didn't feel good to me.

she didn't bring up my Kaito read again after saying she liked it. it's posts like that that make me wonder if they're teamed, because their play around each other has felt strange on both sides.

felt dishonest, because Maki is saying she was digging at FA's Creature read, and that his catchup wasn't bad but could also have been performed by scum Creature. earlier she uses FA's Creature read as a reason to scumread her, like it's an odd one to have, but when i approached her about it felt like a walkback.
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 435, Wisdom wrote:
In post 414, Maki Harukawa wrote:Town Wisdom would
"Town Wisdom would" statements are for newbies who think its possible to meta me
Not for someone with lots of games with me
Chara has fewer games with me than you have yet she gets it
And given youre not dumb, it follows youre an insincere scum
In post 437, Wisdom wrote:I remember kaito blindly townreading scum maki when i was scum eith her, which is why im leaning towards the same thing happening here
In post 401, Wisdom wrote:because shallow

dunn has seen my game enough to know such things are not ai for me
i have this discussion in every game i play with dave, who thinks whoever doesn't explain everything they do is scum
And then there are the newbies who default scumread whatever seems weird
these three posts together are why i don't want to lynch Wisdom.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 1024, davesaz wrote:Going through d1 with an unexplained read on exactly 1 person is scummy no matter who it is.
i don't like your insistence on this, but it doesn't feel AI.
scumminess is relative and ultimate scumtells don't exist. come on, dave.

reading Wisdom specifically, that he has a title that refers to his tendency to tunnel and not listen to anyone else needs to be taken into account.
the fact that as scum he is perfectly capable of towntelling/controlling lynches is also relevant. not explaining himself isn't a scumtell, especially when he has explained himself.
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #94) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 1019, Alchemist21 wrote:How do y’all feel about a Wisdom lynch then? I seriously doubt Maki flips scum here.
ok, that's on me. i feel like this is the second time i've forgotten about one of Alch's posts. or something. so Wisdom would be the scum he doesn't like on Maki.

i know FA was scumreading Maki's miller discredit, who else was? i know it's not why Wisdom is on the lynch and it's not why i'm there either.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #95) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:27 pm

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Pink was the other one who has Maki scum for the miller thing, there we go. i don't like that reasoning but i'm townleaning Pink, so that's fine.

Wisdom: that would imply that you value my opinion enough that it would throw such a wrench in dave's plans. :>
but to be perfectly serious: it's true i like playing with you, and i have no problem with your style.

do you have scumreads besides Maki?
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #96) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:30 pm

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VOTE: Maki
not even on the wagon. what is wrong with me today?
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #97) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:40 pm

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i felt that Kaito committed more to the Wisdom vote than the Maki one. he actually gave reasoning for it, and hopped off of Maki pretry quickly. he continued to push Wisdom until i annoyed him into voting me.
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #98) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:43 pm

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scum Wisdom can do a lot better too. how are you reading the difference in town or scum laziness?
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #99) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:48 pm

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Maki's stated Wisdom meta and then her attempt to get him to join her on Nikk.

Kaito stated that this was Wisdom's scum meta.
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #100) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:49 pm

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In post 243, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 242, Wisdom wrote:
In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
yeah this is scum
maki has played like 10 games with me and has no excuse to say such bs
Sorry but no, you're looking pretty scum rn, you say things like this but you're usually scum when your posting is weak like this
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #101) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:50 pm

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In post 1067, Chara wrote:Maki's stated Wisdom meta and then her attempt to get him to join her on Nikk.

Kaito stated that this was Wisdom's scum meta.
first sentence here is answering why Wisdom is voting her.
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #102) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:59 pm

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none of the people who've said this is your scum meta and not you being you have been able to back it up with links or actually refute anything i've said about it. and Alchemist just admitted he doesn't even know your scum meta.
would appreciate an answer about your other scumreads instead of a cheeky question.

pedit: part of why i was even pushing Kaito was due to his lack of proof for that statement, Alch. and i questioned Maki about her assertion as well.
i suppose i didn't question Wisdom, but that would be because i also have meta on him and don't think the statements that this is his scumplay are valid.
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #103) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:10 pm

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here are two scum Wisdom ISOs. this is the only experience i'm drawing upon.

viewtopic.php?t=76296&f=84&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=68384&user_select%5B%5D=19897

you can give them both a quick look to see explanations and a variety of stances in the early game. it should be known the second is old.

here's a town ISO. (he was killed night 1, which is why it's short.)

viewtopic.php?t=74286&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

he doesn't explain any scumreads, with the exception of convincing himself out of a possible Kaede scumread. (she did end up scum, though that isn't very relevant.)
i couldn't find links of town Wisdom tunneling but he has a lot of games, sorry. it's common knowledge enough that it's brought up frequently and i doubt anyone is arguing he doesn't tunnel.

given dave's recent Wisdom experience i can understand where he's coming from. i still disagree.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #104) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:15 pm

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sheep: that's fair, and i sort of agree. i think he's scummy, but he's continued to not do things i would expect scum Kaito to do. i'm less inclined to lynch him except as a possible Maki partner.

pedit: that's true too.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #105) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:10 pm

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it's not impossible to reconsider, but i don't understand why you did. you mentioned Nikk's posting as a reason to change your read on Wisdom, do you still think the way he's been playing is indicative of scum Wisdom or no? and you haven't explained why Nikk was "making you and Wisdom fight all game".

as for your Kaito read: you don't need to mention him all of the time, when you said you had no read there i didn't ask again. but then you said you liked my reasoning and would revisit it: what happened to that?
and hypothetical you and scum Kaito teamed: what do you mean you'd make a confident stance? if it's a townread, you're right in that i would listen. i don't see what you're saying, though. that you aren't teamed because scum you would have given an explicit and confident read there?

it's true you're pretty good at scum, and i've mislynched you before. but i don't exactly think you're playing badly here and i haven't seen anyone say you are, so i don't know why you're comparing yourself to Wisdom being called lazy.
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #106) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:18 pm

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In post 1088, Maki Harukawa wrote:I really dislike the confidence in your posting about me Chara. You've never had a confident read on me ever. So you having one here is ???
are you referring to the post you quoted where i explain my bad feelings?
i honestly don't know how to respond to this. sorry if i'm wrong? i also don't feel all that confident so i'm wondering where you got the impression i was on you in particular.
i know i've mislynched you before due to a lack of confidence in a townread, i'm very aware of that.
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #107) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 1089, Maki Harukawa wrote:Also it is an odd read one to have (regarding creature) because it's a post scum creature can make lol
it's more the difference in treatment about the Creature read between FA and myself, considering i agreed with her read explicitly and brought that up to you. is it also a scumtell for me when i have plenty of experience with Creature?
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #108) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:29 pm

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In post 1097, Maki Harukawa wrote:I'm so sorry that I've been dealing with irl stuff that I forgot to revisit my Kaito read. Shame on me hang me up!
Yes I am saying that I'm not scum with Kaito (or at all) because scum me would give a very clear confident answer. I got mislynched because I didn't give a clear answer on dunn a few games ago ironically
there's no need to pretend i'm condemning you for not having the time to post when i've never done so. i know you've been busy and i waited for you to catch up. why do you think i'm talking to you now?

i'll reply to the rest later i guess. i don't know why i have to feel guilty about a scumread but that's on me, not you.
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #109) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:33 pm

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In post 1098, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think the fact you're so confident given you're history on me is the most stupid thing I've read and I don't know how you have this confidence rn it's like...you gonna ml me over and over until you get it right Chara?
i just said i wasn't confident.
UNVOTE:
i'll be back later, sorry.
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:44 pm

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i know you aren't mad, that would be silly.

why are you thinking i'm not second-guessing the read on you at all? (before i unvoted, obviously.) you were busy by the time i came around to the read so i never had time to talk to you about it, and i wanted to see your catchup before i did. (that didn't work out due to wanting to talk about it without rushing the end of day.)
this is the first chance we've had to talk and this is also the first time i've actually talked about why i'm scumreading you with the thread.

and feeling guilty is entirely a me thing, it's not on you, so don't worry about that.
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:49 pm

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can you talk more about why Nikk's positioning on Wisdom is bad. (i did read what you said, but you didn't explain why.)
he was voting Wisdom, asked him some questions, and then eventually unvoted him saying that 'it seems this is usual for Wisdom'. i get that if you're town you don't like that he decided to vote you instead, but i don't really have a problem with his Wisdom progression.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1111, Maki Harukawa wrote:I feel like you were hinting at thinking I was scum before in the thread or at least said you'd vote me. The way you posted your mini case on me I was reading in a way that had a lot of confidence in it. So it didn't feel like you were second guessing anything at all.
ok, i guess i can see where you're coming from.
there isn't a lot of time left and i'm not scumreading Nikk. his response to your case especially doesn't feel like how i would expect scum trying to mislynch you (with you as the largest wagon and Nikk as the next popular option) to act.
and i did read your case.

about Wisdom: what was bad about his response to pressure? insulting the players scumreading him seems in character to me, but it sounds like you have more experience.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 1123, Elsa Jay wrote:Chara is a nice lad, and Creature seems nice as well.

Total rating: nice/10.
i think you're nice too!
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:49 pm

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Maki, i've decided to townread Kaito being unhelpful and snarky because he's seemed more logical and careful as scum in a few games, and "rougher" as town.
would you consider that an okay metric or a terrible one? i was going to vote him again due to being fed up but it doesn't feel right anymore thanks to that. +1 for pushing me more aggressively. relatively speaking.

Wisdom, no scumreads besides Maki? i'm just assuming no because you didn't answer, but what the hell i'll ask again.

Maki's whole line about mislynching her over and over again until i get it right hit me pretty hard, but she's still my preferred lynch out of what's currently on the table. it's true i've townread her as scum but what's more notable to me is i townread her when she's town also, and the mislynches were due to paranoia.
i could compromise on Nikk too. i don't believe there's enough time to be picky now, and i don't have any confident scumreads.
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:54 pm

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don't feel like pursuing this today but now that i look, Elsa is playing survivalistically out in the open again (he was hunting for a bit but doesn't seem to have continued) and i choose to believe it's something scum Elsa would do with no proof whatsoever. no proof but my soul.
i'll keep it in mind either way.

pedit: mind linking the game?
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:59 pm

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In post 1148, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1146, Chara wrote:Maki, i've decided to townread Kaito being unhelpful and snarky because he's seemed more logical and careful as scum in a few games, and "rougher" as town.
would you consider that an okay metric or a terrible one?
Terrible he did the exact same thing in a scum game a bit ago it's not something you should tr him based off of
and: do you think Kaito's badposting here is scummy or null, then.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:15 pm

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In post 1152, Maki Harukawa wrote:It's on a dif site do you mind?
oh, never mind then. i don't think you're lying but i also can't use it for myself. thanks for the answers.

wow, a Wisdom readlist. Clemency scumread is fun.

okay i'll finally sleep.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #118) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:15 am

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In post 1240, Kaito Momota wrote:Chara might even argue that it's preferable to lynch town over scum today, though I don't subscribe to such logic
of course i would, day one scum lynches are anti town.

Kaito's funnier when his snark isn't directed at me, so i'm willing to admit some bias.
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #119) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:19 am

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In post 1255, Alchemist21 wrote:I don’t know. Dunn probably meant getting rid of bad Town is +ev but I’m just saying that the idea of a Town lynch being better might not be wrong.
Kaito was making a joke.
town mislynches are better than no lynches, that was Kaito's argument. the joke was about how i usually say that town lynches on day 1 are preferable to scum lynches.

it has to do with towns getting complacent in their day 1 scum lynches and then getting more and more off track as they get a string of mislynches off of bad associatives/whatever else that brings down morale.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #120) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:22 am

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at the risk of explaining the joke, i don't actually think it follows that we should try and lynch town.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #121) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:24 am

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oh, and i'm town because i am.

not surprised Wisdom pivoted onto Clemency after that read list. a little surprised dave joined the wagon, because his vote post looked like it was leading in the opposite direction.
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #122) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:34 pm

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In post 1326, Nikk wrote:If my math is right, me and clem were within 1 (4 and 3) at the time of your vote. Why not vote me in that situation? Seems like you took an opportunistic vote based on momentum and now that momentum has changed you backpedaled and spun to the next wagon.
her explanation of not knowing the count makes sense. the momentum barely changed, both of you were so close in votes that it wouldn't have mattered. Maki corrected her vote to her actual scumread as soon as the votecount was posted.
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #123) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:43 pm

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i'm scumreading Nikk more of the two, but Clemency has more of my townreads on it.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #124) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:45 pm

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VOTE: Clemency
i'll be here at deadline to hammer if necessary.
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #125) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:18 pm

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i wasn't voting Nikk, so i'd think still L-1.
i might not be here at deadline after all so i'm considering hammering now.

and Elsa: i appreciate being referred to as "thing". you're alright. :>
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #126) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:24 pm

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with dave it'd still just be 6 votes on Clemency, is the problem.
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #127) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:32 pm

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look on the bright side. either we get a scum lynch, or a town lynch. scum lynches are good, and town lynches are good because day 1 scum lynches are anti town.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #128) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:34 pm

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night. i'll be here to hammer at deadline if necessary but i've decided i don't like Clemency's argument, and also i'm incapable of going against Wisdom's wishes, even if i know he isn't always right.
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #129) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:49 pm

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i just get so much mileage out of that one.
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #130) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:44 am

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VOTE: Nikk
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Post Post #1461 (isolation #131) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:31 pm

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reverse?
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #132) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 1464, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1461, Chara wrote:reverse?
Can only hide behind people who would show up as "Aligned with the mafia." on cop reports. If I target someone who would show up as town I die
ah, so you can find scum or millers, and die if you hit town.
who did you pick last night?

pedit: what's the name?
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #133) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:46 pm

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In post 1484, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 1472, Maki Harukawa wrote:The modifier is called Desperate
What you're thinking of is called "disloyal" - you're lying
disloyal roleblocks actions taken against allies, it wouldn't straight up kill a hider.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #134) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:47 pm

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oh, Creature got me first. pedits.
i'm surprised nobody's said it.

pedit: never mind, Pink said it.
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #135) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:51 pm

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In post 1501, Kaito Momota wrote:Maki isn't going behind anyone suspect because she's scum who will lie about her results to get out of being lynched for another day

Clemency needs to claim his role today or die
if Maki survives and is lying scum she gets a free mislynch out of it.
except she doesn't, because we would never act on a report from Maki until she's suicided on actual town at night.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #136) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 1508, Kaito Momota wrote:She doesn't want to live

She wants to make it to day 4 alive
that's fair, but does it hurt us to get her to get a report tonight, and then have her die?
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #137) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:57 pm

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In post 1514, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 1513, Chara wrote:
In post 1508, Kaito Momota wrote:She doesn't want to live

She wants to make it to day 4 alive
that's fair, but does it hurt us to get her to get a report tonight, and then have her die?
I'm voting Clemency, I suggest you do the same. But if Maki claims a guilty tomorrow we're lynching HER first
it sure is a good thing i claimed my miller role, hm? can't imagine what could have happened if Maki was town and tried to hide behind an unclaimed miller.

but yes, anyway. i'm considering Clemency. and no, the town isn't that dumb. Maki can't live with her claim, but i prefer her dying at night and conftowning somebody than being lynched.
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #138) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:01 pm

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going behind someone sketchy is what we want. if mafia has to nightkill somebody i'd rather it be a slot who'd be mislynched. there's entirely no reason to volunteer to be murdered to save scummy town' life.
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #139) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 1536, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1531, Chara wrote:going behind someone sketchy is what we want. if mafia has to nightkill somebody i'd rather it be a slot who'd be mislynched. there's entirely no reason to volunteer to be murdered to save scummy town' life.
Nope, because that gives the chance to scum!Maki to lie and claim a guilty. If she doesn't die this night, she's lynched, no questions asked.
no it doesn't, because we kill her if she claims a guilty.
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Post Post #1571 (isolation #140) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:12 pm

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In post 1552, Clemency wrote:
Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1538, Clemency wrote:i'm a 2-shot Doctor 2-shot Roleblocker
WHY'D YOU CLAIM WHEN KAITO WAS OBV SCUM ALREADY NOOOOOOOOOOOO
its the only way i could try and fucking convince someone
you didn't even see any reactions to Kaito's fakeclaim before you fullclaimed.
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Post Post #1578 (isolation #141) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:13 pm

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In post 1557, Clemency wrote:defensive? i caught you in a lie and i'm calling you out on it
how did you catch him in a lie? he already knew you'd claimed PR yesterday, of course Kaito would know you'd say he was lying if he claimed a Vanilla Cop on you.
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #142) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:18 pm

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In post 1582, Clemency wrote:kaito/chara/wisdom
you think day 1 was theatre? all theatre?
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #143) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 1585, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 1580, Firebringer wrote:kaito can you explain to me why you think clemency reaction was scum defensive versus town defensive?
Town roleblocker knows I'm lying there

Town reaction: "I cc" - nothing else needed in his position

Scum reaction: He's counter claiming me so I either go all in and claim and try to sway public opinion and then die tomorrow, or say I was faking being a pr which will probably get me lynched
this.

"you're lying, i roleblocked you". that's something. why claim the doc shots?
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #144) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:21 pm

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In post 1586, Clemency wrote:VOTE: clemency
i'm voting myself with full intent to die so i can prove my role and two scum at the same time
this wouldn't even prove anyone is scum. if you're town calm down. there's no reason to be angry at a scum for being scum, from your perspective.
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #145) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:25 pm

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then i'll ask again, why did you fullclaim? if it's not because Kaito wanted it.

even though you literally just said it was because of Kaito.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #146) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:27 pm

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i don't think Clemency is scum.
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #147) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:37 pm

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In post 1638, Clemency wrote:
In post 1637, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 1635, Clemency wrote:we're sure as fuck not voting elsa right now
I thought you were going to sleep btw?
with all this pent up emotion? please
this isn't a place to vent either.
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #148) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 1644, Clemency wrote:sorry, it just feels like nobody's listening to anything i'm saying
to be blunt, it's because you're upset. if you can't sleep i'd suggest doing something else besides this. no good gameplay comes from this.
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #149) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 1657, Kaito Momota wrote:Chara come on

This isn't town

Why aren't you concerned with her pushing on me btw?
i don't feel like making a decision about it right now, i've scumread you both this game at different points. some things came up so i'll see you all tomorrow.
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #150) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 1673, Wisdom wrote:elsa/sheep/someone

im starting to consider chara
put me back in your townlist, i can win a 1v1 with you but i'm townreading you and would rather that not come to pass.

Clem, i see you haven't listened to me. that's fine.

pedit:
VOTE: Elsa
i don't really think Maki would be unable to recognize Kaito town while Wisdom would.
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #151) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 1681, Wisdom wrote:then why do you listen to me and not her
i'm not townreading Maki.
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #152) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 1682, Chara wrote:
In post 1681, Wisdom wrote:then why do you listen to me and not her
i'm not townreading Maki.
she has to be town with that claim though, i just spent enough time arguing that.
so i gess she was right and i'm being paranoid.
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #153) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:57 pm

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i think Alch died because no one was really scumreading him, and he had the towniest miller claim aside from FA.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #154) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:01 pm

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In post 1686, Wisdom wrote:chara youre worrying me.
reread day 1 and don't be worried about it.

i probably should have left the thread when i told Clem too, being stressed does nothing good for my posting.

but besides that, with Maki being town (conditionally) i really think you need to take another look at Kaito, Wisdom.
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #155) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:02 pm

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why?
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #156) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:04 pm

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i don't see a world where Maki and Kaito can both be town, becausw that's how much i trust a confident read on Kaito from Maria. so if you think Kaito's town, Maki is lying.
it sounds like a dumb way to make some reads but her record is that good. it's not perfect but it's very good.

pedit: i know.
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #157) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:07 pm

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In post 1693, Wisdom wrote:maki is town and is tunneling

acting like that's not a possibility is bs
i've never seen town Maki tunnel town Kaito.
it'd be different if you had games to tell me about.
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #158) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:10 pm

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In post 1693, Wisdom wrote:maki is town and is tunneling

acting like that's not a possibility is bs
and convince me Kaito is town. because my proven best measuring stick for Kaito's alignment is in this game, is town, and is telling me he's scum.

being paranoid of me because of that is bull, and you should figure out how to read me better if you really find it strange i trust her opinion on the situation more than yours. the reason i haven't voted Kaito yet, by the way, is because i'm a dumbass.
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #159) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:13 pm

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Alch flipping town is another thing. i was paranoid he was just trying to pocket me, but he was the only other voice for why Kaito was scum when i was trying to get anyone to listen.

pedit: Kaito, links? i asked earlier.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #160) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 1705, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1702, Kaito Momota wrote:Maki's read me wrong in the last 2-3 games we've played together anyways

but ok
Wrong. The closest to me being incorrect was saying 'gun to my head he's town' when I had you at null in an off-site game.
can somebody please link them? if i have to go searching through your alts i will cry. :<
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #161) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:18 pm

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unless they're offsite, which is a possibility. blah.
if Kaito's at L-1 i'm

UNVOTE:
because i don't want any day ends for stupid reasons.

pedit: i see. considering the amount of content here i'm still willing to trust it, then.
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #162) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:21 pm

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i was thinking about Excalibur. it's true she never did say you were town, i just thought she'd been implying it because she didn't contradict that post where i said "Kaito is locktown because Maria isn't scumreading him". which would have been nice to have her contradict, but that game's over.
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #163) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:25 pm

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it was my kneejerk desire to be suspicious of Wisdom for putting me in his lynchpool, but he's misread me before and i don't think scum Wisdom decides to cut off one of his pocketed town here to set up a later mislynch that might not even pan out for him.
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #164) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:30 pm

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In post 1722, Kaito Momota wrote:Maki is scum
She claims to avoid being lynched today (regardless of what she would have you believe, that's where the day was headed)
She gets me lynched today
She claims to hide behind someone during the night, she doesn't die
She gets someone else lynched day 3
Day 4 she gets lynched, meanwhile 4 town have died and mafia are about to win.
if you flipped town, Maki's credibility is gone and nobody is lynching anyone she says is guilty. and then she gets lynched. at least that's how it should be for anyone paying attention. and don't just say "this town is dumb".
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Post Post #1735 (isolation #165) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 1727, Kaito Momota wrote:He had right to be suspicious of you because you were kind of letting things play out instead of taking stances
you're right, i was doing that. when i'm unsure about what to do i have a problem where i just don't post. i also do it as scum, but in that case it has to do with fear of looking scummy and not fear of being wrong.

speaking of, what's your read on me now?
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #166) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:36 pm

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In post 1732, Kaito Momota wrote:Chara you don't get to talk for all of town, She claimed power role so they're going to lynch who she says and try to get another result from her the next night
i'm choosing to believe town won't grab the idiot ball here.

and i can talk for who i like as long as i'm still alive. which i will be because there are still a lot of players who erroneously believe i'll be mislynchable at some point.
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #167) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:43 pm

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by the way, Pink's town too. like town enough that any mislynch there should never happen.

pedit: if my read on Elsa matters (and it shouldn't if you know me) i'm not comfortable townreading him here and think he's a candidate for PoE scum and null. if we actually had a good PoE.
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #168) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:44 pm

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the above has to do with my inability to read Elsa. he's just batshit and he likes it that way. maybe i should put in more effort since he's actually hunting today?
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #169) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:37 am

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if you're an avatar loyalist, then i am. /s

pedit: even scum Kaito wouldn't have made a claim like that with any expectation it would be anything other than a reaction test.
there's a part of me that wants to wait on flipping Kaito until Maki is resolved, but it's also important information to have. i trust Maki's read and obviously Kaito can be scum while not doing anything specifically illogical, but there's the fact that Kaito hasn't... really done anything i don't think town Kaito could do.
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #170) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:01 pm

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In post 1809, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1807, Chara wrote:if you're an avatar loyalist, then i am. /s
No Chara, we're
character
loyalists. We change the avatar sometimes but keep the same character.
damn it, you're right!
except i'm not. i have a Phos avatar i love.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #171) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 1816, Elsa Jay wrote:I still trust Chara
why's that? i know you have reason to townread me, but for a few other reasons i'm surprised you're confident.
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #172) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 1824, davesaz wrote:Reviewing myself to bring this game back into memory.
In post 1261, davesaz wrote:Kaito suddenly hyperposts despite being in no personal danger.
Why did that happen?
I don't remember if I was satisfied that we understood this.
who
was
in danger at the time you noticed this, in your opinion? and why is this bothering you?
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #173) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 1835, Kaito Momota wrote:
In post 1834, Elsa Jay wrote:Are you or are you not pocketed by Wisdom, Kaito? Just want to see where you stand with him.
Nulltown - possibility of him being scum exists but I think likely town
Wisdom scum would only make sense if he's scum with Kaito, otherwise his plays have been subpar for scum. (i'm aware Kaito could be scum but i'm also interested in pursuing other options here and letting PRs work.)
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #174) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:09 pm

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In post 1840, Elsa Jay wrote:I townread both Clem and Maki, and they both turn out to be PRs. Right now I feel like I deserve the confidence I got in my reads.
hm. why townread me at all? i'd like to hear about Pink too, but with his recent townspewing the answer is less interesting.
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #175) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:28 am

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town: FA, Wisdom, Pink Ball, davesaz, Creature

gut town but Maki certified scum: Kaito

the PR void: Maki Harukawa, Clemency

leftover: sheep, Elsa Jay, Fire, Lady Angel

good enough for now. waiting on VC and will vote after, likely sheep or LA.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #176) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 am

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VOTE: sheep
let's do this instead.
Lady didn't hold it up but she still towntold at some point. though i was townreading sheep early game i feel like he's coasting.

Lady's ok, she's in my PoE too, but i'm getting a compromise vibe and those tend to flip town.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #177) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:07 am

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i'd lynch anyone in leftovers. sheep is my preference because i see his actions (or lack thereof, except for the unexplained turnaround on Nikk from towny to lynchable) as having scum utility.
between Elsa and Lady i have no preference. Fire i want to lynch slightly less than that, but not by much.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #178) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:27 am

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actually, Elsa's a better lynch than Lady.
but you should vote sheep with me.
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #179) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:45 am

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oh, i remember. but you're who Wisdom wants dead, so it's all the same. i'm getting Perpetual MyLo deja vu, which is more evidence to me that Wisdom is town, and that i can safely ignore him for the most part.

i prefer sheep over you, so this is where i'm voting. if it became a LA wagon vs. Elsa wagon, i'll vote you. not voting outside of leftovers today.
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #180) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1887, Wisdom wrote:its already la vs elsa
stop pretending otherwise
oh, you're right!
look at all of those players who want to lynch Elsa!

oh wait, the only player who's even scumreading him is me.
it's not LA vs Elsa, it's LA vs. your vanity wagon.
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #181) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 190, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 179, sheepsaysmeep wrote:@elsa why did you assume that fa was a real miller page 1
elsa can you answer this
In post 191, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: elsa
In post 197, sheepsaysmeep wrote:that was mostly just a random vote on someone active

rn kinda think he has some good takes post-post 100 though
In post 269, sheepsaysmeep wrote:idt elsas w game or v game was this wolfy

idk whether this is just really wolfy or twtbw
In post 309, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i somehow missed nikk's posting first time reading but i really dislike that slot
In post 587, sheepsaysmeep wrote:elsa still feels wolfy/like posting to post and defend/be townread

fire is still pretty villagery by meta i think


idrk about either of claire or wisdom
wait no, sheep also scumreads Elsa.
which is funnier than it being just me.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #182) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:16 am

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i wonder about sheep/Elsa as scum together, considering sheep's spent the whole game parked on Elsa/inquiring about his meta/etc. it looked more like distancing to me until i did a re-ISO.
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #183) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:20 am

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why dave? he has the amazing power of third miller claim. come to think of it that might be the only reason i'm townreading him.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #184) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 1892, Wisdom wrote:i think ill replace sheep with dave in my scumreads
this is shallow, you know that if i was scum here i wouldn't be trying to pull away from the LA mislynch to a completely different mislynch no one has explicitly said they're interested in.

pedit: hey Wisdom, go back and reread the two towngames you played with me where you misread me both times.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #185) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:48 am

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i'm bringing it up because you scumread me in Perpetual MyLo for avoiding the Wicked lynch because i wanted a different lynch that also turned out to be scum.
and because i know you aren't bad enough at mafia that you'll see me do the same thing three times as town and scumread me for it every one of those times.

LA wagon died after her reads post, where i unvoted and said it didn't feel like scum, and then Maki added that LA's posts were towny. Elsa also townread LA after that. Nikk also unvoted here. the only player who could be scum protecting her there is Elsa.

LA wagon isn't as consensus as i thought, in Kaito's post on it he's right that only 4 players are interested in voting her and that a lot of the list is letting the lynch happen. so i'm fine with her staying in my PoE, but with the way she feels inevitable due to a lack of consensus elsewhere she still isn't my favourite for scum.

i'd be happy with any lynch in those four, i suppose, but i'd maintain that LA's readslist at the time of the unvotes kn her doesn't fit with survivalistic scum, while Elsa's play is very survivalistic.
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #186) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:04 pm

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not really, i think you're town. it was more like a slightly charged appeal to get you to reconsider and fix your reads somewhat. you making the same mistake more than once as town isn't exactly surprising to me when i don't have any prior experience of you being able to read me well. none of what you're doing is helpful to scum Wisdom, it won't get me mislynched or discredited and it doesn't make you look better.
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #187) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:06 pm

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if you're not stuck in a tunnel i think you can figure out the game a lot better than i could, so you scumreading me is a distraction and it'd mean whatever other reads you come up with are useless to me. considering i rely on my townreads reads when i'm lost, that's important to me.
and you can listen to that or not.
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #188) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:10 pm

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also i'm pretty happy with my townlist here. the only slots that give me major pause are Clem and Kaito, which is why neither are in it. and Maki being town is conducive to her suiciding at night, unfortunately. if we don't force that then it's the same as scum Maki guessing correctly that we wouldn't make her.
but i do think she's town and i'm not lynching her.
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #189) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:11 pm

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conducive was the wrong word to use there. maybe reliant?
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #190) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:16 pm

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In post 1908, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1907, Elsa Jay wrote:That's kinda ignoring Chara's contributions as well as mine, but okay. I give you a pass on me since I'm me, but surely you want to interact with Chara or something?
Yeah sure I was semi V/LA during this weekend but now I'm here so I could interact with anyone. Thing is, the gamestate right now is demotivating
i feel the same way as Elsa, i feel like i've been here and contributing just fine, and so has he. not to argue with you being demotivated but Kaito and Wisdom aren't the only ones here.
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #191) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:42 pm

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this makes my Wisdom townread sound less credible, but if Kaito ever flips scum i'm lynching Wisdom. if Kaito's town this obviously doesn't apply.
is scummy. i don't agree with sheep's stance that it was because of Kaito's wagon that he's gotten aggressive, but i could see that from someone who hasn't been keeping up with the game closely like sheep has. it sounds counterintuitive but scum like to rely on being objectively correct. and Kaito just said sheep hasn't been reading properly, so it's pretry easy to have missed davesaz.
sheep should reply to that regardless.

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Post Post #1944 (isolation #192) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:27 pm

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that's a good point.
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #193) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:10 pm

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come to think of it, saying town Clem shouldn't have refuted Elsa's mason claim is weird. fakeclaiming masons can be a bad idea to begin with depending on who it is, even if you have a townread on that player. why is saying "no, we aren't" so much stranger than doing some pointless hedging like you suggest town Clem who is townreading Elsa should do?
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #194) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:11 pm

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above was to davesaz.
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #195) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:23 pm

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In post 1933, sheepsaysmeep wrote:creature what are your reads right now
hey sheep, would you tell me about what prompted you to ask this?
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #196) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 1979, davesaz wrote:You must have misread something.
Someone you townread calls you masons with them, you act like it's a joke.
Someone you scumread calls you masons, you refute it immediately.
Going along with it and then dropping it is scummy.
The above presumes playing town like I do -- honestly and putting thought into it. If Clem is town, my mistake is expecting him to play like me.
this is rather egotistical, isn't it? expecting people to play like you is exactly your mistake here. if someone pretended to be masons with me i would likely also be unsure of how to respond.
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #197) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:38 am

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why does acting like it's a joke require some sort of response from Clem? he ignored it until Elsa tried to give some legitimacy to a claim nobody was buying, at which point he did deny it. Elsa fakeclaims all the time, why would Clem even bat an eye until he felt it was necessary to to make the state to clown as clear as possible?
you're giving this very specific response that is the town response to you and saying Clem has to fit into your box, and if he does not then the action is scummy.
you're doing the same with Wisdom and willfully ignoring all who say otherwise. even if Wisdom is scum your argument for it is terrible because of that behaviour. i don't like it and it's narrow-minded.
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #198) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:44 am

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Clem's own explanation at the top of this page makes sense, he wasn't sure. what about that do you find strange for town to do?
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #199) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:39 pm

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and was referring to that point in time too, not now. what i was questioning was the reads existence at all.
not to mention that you said "my mistake is expecting him to play like me", a statement in the present tense.
so don't roll your eyes at me.
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