Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!

[Elsa Jay]

Lady Angel returns! and is appearantly salty I memed on her bring away from the game.

I didn't see you complaining in the game earlier to tell me to cut it down a little, I think. You could just admit you you forgot. Mistakes happen after all.

Dang, now I also gotta keep my word. Be with that after I take a shower,

[Elsa Jay]

Alright, here's my promised opinion on Angel and Creature: They're both alright. Pretty null to me.

There we go.

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 1.3

Maki Harukawa (4): Wisdom, Pink Ball, Nikk, Firebringer
Wisdom (3): Maki Harukawa, Kaito Momota, davesaz
Elsa Jay (2): Alchemist21, sheepsaysmeep
Nikk (2): Elsa Jay, Clemency
Kaito Momota (1): Chara
Creature (1): Frozen Angel

Not Voting: Creature, Lady Angel

With 15 alive it’s 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-14 08:51:00)

vla for like 48 hours

Noted.

[Elsa Jay]

what just happened

I stopped shitposting and the game started to get a move on, that's what.

[Maki Harukawa]

Town Wisdom would

"Town Wisdom would" statements are for newbies who think its possible to meta me
Not for someone with lots of games with me
Chara has fewer games with me than you have yet she gets it
And given youre not dumb, it follows youre an insincere scum

So you think it's impossible for town me to think you're scum for the thing you're doing? What would town me be doing here then wisdom. You've played enough games with me to give an answer.

[Maki Harukawa]

chara is townish

Agreed

Would any of you scumread me for voting Wisdom despite me townreading him hard? Probably, but imma do it anyway.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because 5 is better then 4.

k elsa is town

Would any of you scumread me for voting Wisdom despite me townreading him hard? Probably, but imma do it anyway.

VOTE: Wisdom

Because 5 is better then 4.

this is sort of why Elsa needs a bullet.
and voting any wagon that moved was his survivor play.

I think this is trademark Elsa I don't think it makes them anymore obv scum if anything it's towny.

UNVOTE:

Woah now.

Did you unvote because of Elsa? This is extremely normal for them.

here's the situation with Kaito. he caught my attention early on, caught my vote a bit later.
he voted Maki early on, never elaborated though i kept asking. agreed with her Wisdom vote and changed to that wagon, and has also been calling me scummy all game. no vote on me though. 194 is just a bad post, and his meta on Wisdom is weak, because he's capable of not playing this weakly as scum. he doesn't have links for it either, and the justification is just vague
also awkward that Maki was who he was voting earlier with no explanation.

"trying too hard to show i'm town", i thought this might be a thought that came from town Kaito, but susbsequent interactions cleared that pretty quickly. now i just think he's avoiding a battle he knows he'll lose and hoping i lose interest/give up.

I like this thought process the read I can somewhat get behind. I'd need to focus more but for now it's not bad

[Maki Harukawa]

And why are you discrediting the idea so early, then? I mean, a game of Millers is surely something that doesn't come up everyday.

Mafia being informed seems viable enough unless you know for sure they're not. Which means your close minded on the idea, or are absolute positive it's not true because of your role.

Which is it?

PREACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ELSA

Here's where I am at now...

1. Wisdom appears to just be this way, and focusing on players who always act suspicious is bad town play
2. IF Maki flips town there is a decent reason to circle back to Wisdom and perhaps even Chara at that time.
3. IF Maki flips scum Elsa Jay is a decent next run.

I don't see us learning as much from flipping Wisdom. It just seems more flimsy then what we learn from a Maki push.

VOTE: Maki

Your reads are just outright wrong and your push is even worse. The people who you're setting to lynch is really gross. This makes me think you could be scum and I'm wrong on wisdom. Your play around his slot has been ? The fact you went back on me is very opportunistic.

@Wisdom

Hey I was wrong let's lynch the real scum who's been making us fight half the day.

This is a shockingly defensive response to me basically saying I read Elsa and Maki as scum team.

Do you feel I have enough sway to lead town?

More like someone is trying to explain one point to you and you're taking it as another so it's getting super annoying.

[Maki Harukawa]

VOTE: Nikki

[Maki Harukawa]

I feel like mafia informed Maki wouldnt bring up the option of mafia being informed about the millers. Seems stupid to even mention the possibility and fuck over your teammate claiming it.

Here's what I mean by the wrong assumption / missing conclusion.

Maki, if Mafia, could bring up the miller thing if all of the claimed millers are town (unfounded assumption is that one or more miller is scum). This is true whether informed of the multiple millers or not. In fact this leads to a pretty strong missing conclusion that if Maki is mafia, the millers are much more likely to be all town. Not strong enough to consider anyone conf, but still pretty strong.

My opinion:

Maki, if Town, is absolutely correct to state that if mafia were informed of multiple millers then even the first miller claim is suspect. Since we don't know that mafia aren't informed, we can't consider any of the millers to be beyond suspicion based solely on the miller claim.

Here's why scum might push Maki as town for having the above correct suspicions.

Scum might push town!Maki if all of the millers are town, to try to force us to lynch Maki and a majority of the millers.

I can't tell if I like this post or not. It's an objectively correct post but is it worth townreading? I don't know

How are your reads going my sweet sweet Clem?

i'm very paranoid about being pocketed by elsa like usual, but i'm gonna say that's a townlean for now
so by that i'm scumleaning nikk by principle
uh
you're 100% town because of the mambo incident
i'm not kidding
i will never vote you
uh
fa is still a townlean
i'm more passive with reads than i look

we have a hydra and he pockets me a lot, it's kinda force of habit

Clem can be town based on town.

[Clemency]

is that a new townread i see
p-edit; post made before i got praise

[Elsa Jay]

Maki saw what I saw, Clem. I'm not crazy. Maybe they'll take it seriously if she says it and not me.

[Maki Harukawa]

i skimmed through maki iso and i agree with wisdom that it is scummy.

VOTE: maki

Still can't read me and you'd be townreading me if I was scum. We both know this to be true I also know you townread me when I make posts like this so let's skip the whole part and you unvote me. K? Ok.

Maki is also boring

I have a fever and very likely a cold and I've been sick all day plus I had a lot of stuff to do irl hence my absence today.

Its very likely similar tomorrow unless if I feel better

so

vla for like 48 hours

Get better loser <3

Alchemist, how much did you actually read?

All of it, though I was doing other stuff too for parts of it so it's possible I missed something important but I don't think I did.

I find it hard to believe through that whole read. What to me was if not the most telling pages yet. You thought it was all noise?

[Clemency]

^
i swear i'm getting a soft scumlean on anyone who tried to claim the past 10 pages or so were noise

thats exactly when we started getting real

[Firebringer]

So you think it's impossible for town me to think you're scum for the thing you're doing? What would town me be doing here then wisdom. You've played enough games with me to give an answer.

probably not make this post.

[sheepsaysmeep]

fa take a step back for a second

you should know that really creature doesnt engage you like this as wolf

[Elsa Jay]

Sheep, I think this is less about being wolfy and more of a personality clash.

[sheepsaysmeep]

yeah i think her reaction to/switch on creature was genuine just affected by emotions/confbias in the moment

[Chara]

chara, can we talk about ur townread on Frozen. Cause I don't get it.
I have no read on frozen here.

the first miller claim is very towny.
the rest is... alright. if she hadn't claimed miller i wouldn't be townreading her, maybe a townlean? not sure.

[Chara]

The worst part is Creature had me more as town when I was shitposting, and when I finally take the game seriously, he goes "put Elsa and Clem on ignore". Holy fuck bro, if Clem ain't townreading you, then somethings wrong here.

Clem, pocket me back and tell me if this is Town Creature.

i've liked your posting a lot once you started taking it seriously!
the problem is i don't townread you for that. but i still like it!

[Nikk]

VOTE: Nikki

Shocked, shocked I say.

Not that shocked.

[Chara]

I think this is trademark Elsa I don't think it makes them anymore obv scum if anything it's towny.

that post was more about Elsa's commitment to not being useful, which is now no longer an issue to me.

[Chara]

^
i swear i'm getting a soft scumlean on anyone who tried to claim the past 10 pages or so were noise

thats exactly when we started getting real

i feel this, you were noise earlier but certainly not now. the last several pages are a lot but they've improved my read on you considerably.

[Chara]

yeah i think her reaction to/switch on creature was genuine just affected by emotions/confbias in the moment

no, i'm townreading FA on her play too, i'd say. (quote is a relevant contributor, but not the only thing.)

i find LA's pop in pretty scummy, she's just parroting "Elsa/Clem" noise as a reason to not be posting.

[Elsa Jay]

Chara, if I really was clogging up the thread and you were reading, wouldn't it make more sense to confront me on it and try to get me to stop instead of disappear for 3 days?

[Chara]

yes.