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Post Post #1550  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:34 pm

In post 1548, Theta Alpine wrote:i am afraid i just do not have the capacity to play this game for the time being
i have been getting over an addiction and for the past few days my mind has felt like it is falling apart
xyzzy please replace me out


Hope you feel better soon, Theta!

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Post Post #1551  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:35 pm

Gonna post this again on the next page so it isn’t missed

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In post 1431, Flavor Leaf wrote:Vonflare’s probably town from what I saw. He probably saw a wagon and just decided to jump on. Scum Vonflare would have done the same, but I expect Vonflare to move his vote soon, so

In post 1432, Flavor Leaf wrote:Ausuka and Wisdom being away from Varsoon wagon implies town. They’re on the wagon Varsoon is going after, and Varsoon would have been a high profile lynch. Both of them can carry a scum game single handedly, and I don’t see them not allowing Varsoon to go through.

They might stay away from it, sure, but I don’t see them adding pressure away from it.

In post 1434, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was going to say I actually was scum reading Gamma based on his varsoon exchange, but his Unvote on replace made Gamma realize it was emotions speaking into reads.

Scum Gamma is robotical. More mechanic and logic’s based than emotion.

I’ll soul read him as town for now. Plus, I like working with Gamma, so that’s a plus, alongside him already on sheep. I think

In post 1439, Flavor Leaf wrote:I just won a town newbie game where Trekkie was scum, and I don’t think she’s scum here. She was very timid, and became incredibly obvious scum. I thought it could have been newbie hesitation, but it was newbscum, and it’s just a little different here. I actually would have found it scummier had they posted and not been on Varsoon.

In post 1479, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1448, Kokichi Oma wrote:I dont like his opening. :/

But I don't like vax more


Don’t focus on Vax. He gains nothing from town reading me the way he did and retracting a claim.

I think this is most likely coming from town you, though, regardless if you’re lying about your stuff.

In post 1484, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m reading Alonzo as town.

In post 1509, Flavor Leaf wrote:Varsoon’s an excellent scum player; the fact that he was being pushed for fake guiltying someone like that is ridiculous imo.

He had 8 votes on him while in a 1v1 with Gamma, Gamma i voted with Wisdom and Ausuka on Gamma shows how ridiculous that wagon on Varsoon was.

In post 1511, Flavor Leaf wrote:Let’s see...

Gamma
Xtoxm
Trekkie
Vaxkiller
Nancy for the most part
I guess Kokichi
Alonzo

Those are the town reads I’ pretty solid with right now.

In post 1512, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Singleton/BNL - you seem to be fence sitting a lot. You’re pretty passive, I get it, but I am getting paranoia from you. I felt like you were waiting around to see where the consensus on me was going before committing rather than trying to get a read on me, so I am lean scum reading you, however I know it’s in your personality anyways, which is why I’m not fully committing, but you did become my strongest opinionated read.

In post 1513, Flavor Leaf wrote:Light Ganski, you’re scummy too.

Pretend I’m 100% town confirmed to you, who’s scum?

In post 1514, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 967, light_ganski wrote:Town
ganski
theta alpine
hebichan
wagonomics after the claim
Weak town
the brie
sheep
nancy drew
singletonking (I guess? this is barely more than null)
ausuka (my gut was scum but I don't trust my gut)
Eh
vaxkiller
wisdom
kokichi
Weak scum
purrcocet (again... barely more than null)
party boat
gamma emerald
0verkill
xtoxm
Scum
jaylow (his one post was godawful)
vonflare (this one is for the death miller claim then disappearing, should policy lynch if we don't decide on anyone else)
varsoon



Puts Varsoon, Vonflare, and a lurker as the scum, and then has xtoxm, Gamma, and party in lean scum.

Vonflare is lynchbait, party vs Varsoon are going at each other while in same neighborhood, xtoxm doesn’t make sense as scum with varsoon, that’s way too buddy buddy, and Gamma is the counter wagon.

VOTE: Light

I’m going to here. I await your response.

In post 1517, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 876, Wisdom wrote:theta probably doesnt cc as scum

VOTE: gamma



Catching up on the game, and this post here gives some town credit to both Theta and Wisdom.

I agree, Theta likely doesn’t cc as scum, and Wisdom then goes to gamma, not who theta CC’d, meaning he wasn’t even trying to mislynch someone.

Wisdom is someone I try not to throw out a town read on, because I’m always paranoid of him.

I’m going to look into Wisdom a bit more.

In post 1518, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 890, light_ganski wrote:Scum!varsoon outs the hood for towncred and to raise the overall likelihood of one of his townie neighbours being lynched?

Town!varsoon outs the hood for... what reason? Its useful to know who's in it but surely that negates it's usefulness to a town player for in-hood reads. Someone hmo on this one


I hard disagree with this.

I’ve done so much damage as scum in neighborhoods by keeping it closed off.

Ask Gamma.

I had a mod create a day Neighborizer role, and they Neighborizer scum me Day 1, and the mod in the spectator thread goes “well, there goes my unique role.”

This was just Light trying to create some weak mislynch case way back then.

It is completely NAI to put a neighborhood like that. Especially considering Varsoon didn’t even go after his neighborhood. He was actively giving the rest of the game more information.

In post 1519, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wisdom/Ausuka are a step below my other town reads because they actively were going against Varsoon wagon, albeit indirectly.

I think either of them would have played in a way to let that go through, even if they were doing it nonchalantly.

I have a bad feeling in my stomach that Hebichan is scum. </3. Especially with her early talk about reluctantly town reading Sheep.

I’m going to make an estimated guess of Light, Sheep, Hebichan. I feel I’m getting pretty close with the money.

@Hebi - you’ve been off site for a bit, so you probably won’t see that for a while, but let’s do this buddy system thing again. This time, you can be the last scum standing.

In post 1532, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1522, Wisdom wrote:why is gamma town


I just don’t think gamma acts the way he did towards Varsoon as scum. He even unvoted near the end which meant he knew it was more personal. ScumGamma isn’t controlled by emotions.



You said I haven’t done anything but talk about your loltunneling, right? You literally brought up the ratio of content.

I had one post about you guys tunneling.

All these posts hasn’t nothing to do with anyone tunneling on me. At all. This was actively me analyzing elsewhere, regardless of what you think my alignment is, this is a fact that I was putting content out there.

You have blatantly misrepped me and attempted discredited me for the last time.

You wanna know how you discredit people? You show them definitive proof. You are caught scum.

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Post Post #1552  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:41 pm

In post 1539, sheepsaysmeep wrote:your analysis is ~nai idt anything outside of your scumrange


Literally nothing is out of my scum range, this can’t really be used as an excuse. You gotta actually analyze and do the work.

Why is it more likely to come from scum than town? Explain this stuf. Stop being lazy if you’re actually town.

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Post Post #1553  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:48 pm

In post 1225, Xtoxm wrote:ive seen gamma a few times now and this is the only game he's look even somewhat in a town direction to me
are people scumreading him taking meta into account? i dont think ive seen anyone give an actual reason for voting him

sheep is scum because he's posturing. he's done a ton of it in this game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10639320#p10639320
on D1 he didn't care about this, he wanted to lynch the JK claim. he was eager for it, even before the 2nd claim came out
this post is fake, its posturing for towncred. because its diametrically opposed to his behaviour on d1.
this is the extent of the effort im going to put into explaining my read on him but this isnt the only time hes done this
scum make fake posts.
sheep is scum.



Gonna quote this because it was a solid case that people brushed off.

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Post Post #1554  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:53 pm

thanks flav.

to add to that, i think sheeps refusal to reconsider his read on flav despite his towny entrance is scum indicative.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Post Post #1555  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:53 pm

A reason Xtoxm was being lean scum read was because he was defending Varsoon, which was another discrediting attempt.

Sheep’s playing a hard discredit game this game, and at the end of the day, town doesn’t need to discredit offensively the way Sheep is doing this game.

Defensively, sure, discredit away, but everything Sheep is doing is offensively discrediting. He’s ignoring the stuff made against him, and just pushing it aside because that’s how things get forgotten. You don’t bring them up.

Xtoxm made a solid case on Sheep, regardless of what you think of Sheep’s alignment, and it wasn’t brought up at all.

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Post Post #1556  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:40 pm

In post 1531, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1523, Purrcocet wrote:I was hoping flavor leaf would grant me the death i have been longong for


You haven’t pinged me as scum.

If you side with me, you have a better chance at dying in the night, though, because scum are going to kill within the people who aren’t scum reading me to weaken me.


to kill me u need all 7 dragon balls and a pack of newport 100s


VOTE: sheep

Its like, Sheep, Wisdom, Kokichi that's where im comfy rn

also hebi
come back please
you are the light that this town was missing

besides light ganski

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Post Post #1557  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:02 pm

Hebi’s always the light missing within me.

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Post Post #1558  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:20 pm

dude if nothing in your villa game is outside of your scumrange then you should literally jsut never be villa read

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Post Post #1559  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm

ive never said anything about not doing anything


ive acknowledged multiple times that youre doing things outside of talking about the votes on you i just dont find it ai

the only time ive said anything like "not doing anything else" is abt varsoon

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Post Post #1560  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:23 pm

sidenote last game we played together before my ban all i did was lazy tunnel you and you were wolf so i do feel pretty confident in my ability to read you

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Post Post #1561  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:24 pm

you cant assume that if my read doesnt change that means i'll never reconsider my read that's bullshit

i dont post every thought i have


i'll respond to a case if anyone cares about it
i havent seen anything agianst me that isnt crap

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Post Post #1562  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:25 pm

if you want actual tunneling look at xtoxm

all he's posting is about me and it's blatant confbias to where ive actually accepted that it could be genuine but will be relaly pissed if it is

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Post Post #1563  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:27 pm

In post 1560, sheepsaysmeep wrote:sidenote last game we played together before my ban all i did was lazy tunnel you and you were wolf so i do feel pretty confident in my ability to read you


You were my scum partner...And one game isn’t enough to base how you read me.

And you aren’t lazy scum reading me, you’re stuck on your Varsoon wagon. There’s a difference.

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Post Post #1564  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:27 pm

i wasnt your w partner


it's the game where mulch was lost wolf chara was roelcop and hawk was confirmed miller and you got gamma to vote him in lylo

half a year ago or smtg

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Post Post #1565  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:27 pm

Explain why it’s bad then.

I think everything has been valid.

If something is wrong, that doesn’t mean it’s crap.

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Post Post #1566  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:28 pm

In post 1564, sheepsaysmeep wrote:i wasnt your w partner


it's the game where mulch was lost wolf chara was roelcop and hawk was confirmed miller and you got gamma to vote him in lylo

half a year ago or smtg


Oh, that game. LOL.

I didn’t even play that game until the very end. I put zero effort there until I realized I could probably win.

Creature as a scum partner was rough.

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Post Post #1567  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:29 pm

That was also during the time when I rolled scum like 7-8 times in a row and was completely burnt out

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Post Post #1568  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:34 pm

In post 1225, Xtoxm wrote:sheep is scum because he's posturing. he's done a ton of it in this game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10639320#p10639320
on D1 he didn't care about this, he wanted to lynch the JK claim. he was eager for it, even before the 2nd claim came out
this post is fake, its posturing for towncred. because its diametrically opposed to his behaviour on d1.
this is the extent of the effort im going to put into explaining my read on him but this isnt the only time hes done this
scum make fake posts.
sheep is scum.

i think youre referring to this

my defense of kokichi is for the claim because it's an inno child claim not a jailkeeper claim

i wolfread the way leo claimed and villa read the way theta claimed and my defense for theta as a jailkeeper claim isnt actually for supposedly being a jailkeeper

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Post Post #1569  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:38 pm

Well, you’re scum or town with a terrible tunnel. :shrug:

As town, you should never not be considering the fact that you are wrong.

I am actively trying to work with you if you are town to try and get you to see that i’m Town. What can I do to show this?

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Post Post #1570  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:54 pm

In post 1561, sheepsaysmeep wrote:you cant assume that if my read doesnt change that means i'll never reconsider my read that's bullshit

i dont post every thought i have




also i honestly dont know what you can do after you literally just said nothing is out of your scumrange

just know that when i tunnel it's conscious and i really dont think i currently and im acknowledging that you can be town; dont worry about what im thinking about your slot and do your own thing and if youre vilalger it will prolly just show

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Post Post #1571  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:56 pm

im like 95% sure that xtoxm/leaf are wolves rn though


individually both scummy but associations look terribly w/w esp with varsoon

honestly it feels correct for the lynch today to be inside us 3

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Post Post #1572  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:15 pm

I’m not worrying about your read on me.


I’m worrying about figuring out if you’re scum or town or not, and your deflection of me is why I believe you to be scum here.

You’re trying hard to discredit me, but you’re just getting Third Degree Boon’d. :shrug:

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Post Post #1573  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:17 pm

In post 1571, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im like 95% sure that xtoxm/leaf are wolves rn though


individually both scummy but associations look terribly w/w esp with varsoon

honestly it feels correct for the lynch today to be inside us 3



In what world do Varsoon/Xtoxm act the way they do together as W/W.

That’s scum you trying to connect multiple of us together to set up a multiple mislynch path.

You are bringing up Xtoxm now as a scape goat to get the Sheep vs Flavor relief.

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Post Post #1574  (ISO)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:17 pm

And why would you ever be one of the correct lynches if you are town.

This is ScumSheep.

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