Newbie 1912 Dead/Spectator Thread

[Nauci]

Hello all!

[Loopdan]

Nauci, thanks for the excellent modding!

Do you mind spoiling the setup info?

[Nauci]

I might keep this thread unspoiled for now; I'll pm you the setup though

[Loopdan]

Thanks. Just read it.

My IC PT reads were better than my in-game reads.

[Nauci]

Hahahaha

I thought you and most others had the game solved pretty early on

[Nauci]

But that your play also left a few vulnerable points that could be attacked

[Loopdan]

But that your play also left a few vulnerable points that could be attacked

Yeah this is fair. I like to play loose but it doesn't suit really this account. I always get scumread. My alt (TTTT) is loose but casual and has never been mislynched.

Loose = throwing out lots of thoughts even if they might sound scummy
Casual = having the appearance of not taking the game too seriously (through joking around all the time, shitty post formatting, etc)

Loose and serious don't mix, as I'm learning.

[Nauci]

I think the things that made you vulnerable was throwing out so many loose ideas without following them up later, so it looked scattered. To newer players, this often looks scummy.

I've usually opened games loose but switched to serious analysis halfway through the day.

[Nauci]

Wagon analysis should be super helpful for this game

[Nauci]

Please welcome Elements!

[Nauci]

You played well as always, Elements. It's unfortunate that town got onto the wrong track halfway through.

IMO, the scum players showed every single hallmark sign of scum this game: inconsistent viewpoints, lurking, lack of voting/pushing others, bussing, a lack of conviction behind their reads, etc.

[Elements]

Thank you Nauci, I've definitely learnt a lot from this game and you've been a good mod

[Loopdan]

sorry I thought you were scum

[Elements]

water under the bridge, i thought you were scum

[Nauci]

Haha

Meanwhile, since I may as well spoil the thread

Yeah maybe we don't let Enter lead the Lynch today.

VOTE: MunchMellow

Munch is confirmed scum now that elements and Loop have both flipped town, I'll go back over why on one of my breaks when I've got a bit of time.

I'm actually really surprised no one else is questioning their read on Enter after those flips. I'm not sure what that means yet but I'll think on it a bit more.

It could be slots hoping to avoid confrontation which is NAI for everyone else and slightly +town for Enter but I'm not sure. Remind me to gather my thoughts on Enter avoidance after my munch case.

Classic scum trying to shade multiple slots

[Loopdan]

@Skellen Why exactly do you believe that Thespio is aligned with Loop? I've either forgotten the details or you've never fully explained it.

#709

I don't see the necessity for scum-Thespio to act as he did. Unless he didn't believe into the Loop wagon anymore (despite incoming hammer by Elements) to save himself and he saw a better chance with Elements and he went with his scum partner after Elements. But on the Elements wagon were Loop (town), Munch (tried to lynch him) and well... you. So I don't find that scenario that likely.

What Skellen is missing here is that scum wants claims. They also would have had no problem with lynching another town and leaving me to be lynched later.

Someone voting a town counter wagon to the main town wagon is not a great reason to townread them.

[Loopdan]

I honestly could see an RCE/Thespio scumteam RN.

[Loopdan]

...and then I read the next few pages. Insert sad trombone.

[Nauci]

Even while he's not super accurate, he's probably the most dangerous player in the game for scum. He just has so much town equity.

[Loopdan]

Yep. The only player who isn't acting like Enter is conftown right now if Thespio.

I think scum will keep him around because they think he will derail the game, but that could backfire.

[Loopdan]

ooooh.... Muh is moving from Magik to RCE. I don't envy Thespio if this wagon gains momentum. It could be pretty hard to move off RCE given what he's been saying about him today.

[Nauci]

Scum have space to fake claim tracker here if necessary.

[Nauci]

Lol Thespio

It takes some gall to claim that a replaced players posts can no longer be evaluated

[Loopdan]

The RCE wagon just kind of fizzled out. Pretty much everyone was FOSing him and then Thespio quietly moved away. I'm reading it and yelling "why don't you see this?" but that's a hard thing to really make much of when you are in-game.

Muh is starting to make some real solid posts here, but I think it's gonna be too late. He's the lynch today. But I think they'll get scum tomorrow. Neither scum is heavily TR'd by town.

[Nauci]

RCE has been playing exceptionally well, but the slot should have been indicted for his predecessors.