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Sorry, my memory on who was what in Undertale is fuzzy.In post 281, Taly wrote:Spoiler: Replying to the presumably Nancy head
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Spoiler: Replying to the presumably Ari head
...I really wantSTWto jump into the thread and explain their read on me AND reply to my spoiler to them, because at the moment, I can't find a town-motivated reason for anyone else to push a scumread on me UNLESS they actually give THEIR OWN opinion.
I wanted to know if his then read on you was different than stw, because I tend to tr people if they mindmeld with me. So, if Varsoon shared stw’s then read on your slot, it should logically affect his then read on stw. Makes sense?
I respond to whatever portion(s) of a post that interest me for whatever reason. Sorry-not-sorry if you disapprove.
You were clearly ignoring my play in both games, since you obviously know nothing about my meta.
I don’t have anything “strong”, this early in the game, besides coffee.
I already mentioned a few trs that Ari and I both agree on. HINT: you currently aren’t one of them, for EITHER of us but no reason to give up hope yet, we’re still trying to sort you.
Again, when you have bothered to actually take the time and ISO me, we’ll talk. You want to push a bs scumread on us, while ignoring our meta, go for it but don’t expect either Ari or myself to take you seriously.
Oh and fyi Sherlock, All I said was I would vote you before stw, that’s it, so where the hell is this overreaction even coming from? Yes, I definitely think they’re currently townier than you. That’s hardly even remotely a shade or a push. Also, not impressed by that AtE either. Sorry. Do better.
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Probably obvious because Ari is much nicer than me.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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lol you keep dismissing all of my posts as either AtE or an overrreaction but that only reads as minimizing any point i make on you. could it be because im correct?
2 games is NOT enough to have any reliable meta read, and considering your Undertale memory is SO fuzzy; you've NEVER seen me as town.
So I don't understand the mindmeld you're having withSTWhere, and I don't care if it's in your meta to "not be as nice" asAri. -_-*..."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- Varsoon
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dont patronize me eithernancy"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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The thing is, I made a COMPLETE reply on ANY meta-scumread about me in myIn post 303, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, I really don't understand the scumreads on Taly.
Mephistophane's isn't all that well articulated and lacks venom and STW's has been "Just trust me I gotta figure out some trajectory" excuse for waiting until later in the game to explain their read.STWspoiler textwall. 193
And their 301 leads to me thinking their read on me is meta-based.
Mephistois actively ignoring any posts I've made to explain my thoughts.
If they're really town, they need to actually step back and talk their thoughts out together because it doesn't read as consistent or productive to gamesolving"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- Taly
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Like, I'm honestly wanting an explanation forMephistotown, not people just saying"yeah thats town wtf>_>taly""Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- Taly
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town is going to lose if meta is the only read people want to make"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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I think you sincerely believe this but I have a pretty good idea how town!Shoshin thinks and so far, their posting seems to be lining up with that. In last game, I was weirded out by all of the disconnects scum!Shoshin had - like pretty much NGAF about mislynches for example. In Labrynth, she would get extremely upset about that, so no, I’m not townlocking anyone yet but what I’m currently seeing from them is currently in line, with what I’d expect to see from town!Shoshin. But we know Shoshin is really good at that, which is why we should have powerlynched her after Kokichi mislynch. IOW, she obviously figured out not only who the scum were but also who to pocket.In post 298, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, Taly's town.
Alchemist is town.
Need to sort:
Kokichi, who should be more present and who's IC claim only makes sense one way that I can figure
Pint, who seems to really be slipping under the radar.
I'm still good for a STW lynch, all that said.
@Mephisto: Keep in mind that Shoshin was 3P that actually had to scumhunt in Starcraft 1, whereas here Shoshin would just be hard scum having to fake scumreads.
Like I said, my reads are fluid but once they actually started playing, as opposed to just being annoying - everything they’ve posted so far looks townie. If that changes, I’ll obviously reassess. But for now, I think they’re fine.
I think that you are probably town, since I feel the sincerity in your frustration. MS, is probably town as well - even if it is a sign of the apocalypse - that Auro is correctly reading me. He thought I might be scum in Excalibur.
I do understand where you’re coming from and this is where the whole signing thing can come into play, and this is why I 100% agree with AC on this, because it really hurts stw, that they synchronize their posts first, which makes them seem less natural than if they just posted more off the cuff. So, I can understand why it’s much harder for you to see what I do and it sucks that they’re making it more difficult than it needs to be but that doesn’t make them scum.
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these were my most recent completed mafia games... both of which were several months ago so meta there isn't too reliable within itself.
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here are 2 compeleted towngames... which is not 100% accurate meta anymore
>_> I'm focusing waaaaay too much on a read with me but this is annoying AF
...I'm done with entertaining ANY meta-stated read on me after this point, and I'm not replying toMephistountil they actually develop a unique read or respond to whenever the fuckSTWdecides to post"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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I kind of got the feeling that Nico wasn’t exactly happy about this game. I asked her why and I’m still waiting on an answer.In post 300, Varsoon wrote:Nico, talk to me.
Let's play ball.
Don't be like White Diamond and spend all day isolated from the people who need to talk to you.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Heya, I obv-towned you in Jester till you went all anti-strategyIn post 311, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:MS, is probably town as well - even if it is a sign of the apocalypse - that Auro is correctly reading me. He thought I might be scum in Excalibur.
And I townread you in Excalibur!
Also... "Aurocalypse"? Or is that too much
Also, you're not worried I'm trying to pocket you?
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Gut, felt he was advancing the game, blah.In post 282, Taly wrote:Could you explain the Alchemist townread?
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No, you’re definitely not correct. If sure you love this response even more. Amirite?In post 302, Taly wrote:lol you keep dismissing all of my posts as either AtE or an overrreaction but that only reads as minimizing any point i make on you. could it be because im correct?
2 games is NOT enough to have any reliable meta read, and considering your Undertale memory is SO fuzzy; you've NEVER seen me as town.
So I don't understand the mindmeld you're having withSTWhere, and I don't care if it's in your meta to "not be as nice" asAri. -_-*...
I made an earlier post asking anyone for a link to one of your town games. Did you miss that?
That isn’t at all what I said. *headbang*
I was responding to your question about my asking Varsoon about his then read on you wrt to stw, to determine whether THEY - him and stw - not me and them - were mindmelding on that or not.
Noted.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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How are we not articulate and I was spewing “venom” in the last game, because so many people were wrongly sr me. Had tw not beat me to hydraing with Shoshin, you’d probably have seen a lot more of it, since you’d probably be sr me. I don’t get upset without cause - unless I’m actually misunderstanding you here and you meant something else?In post 303, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, I really don't understand the scumreads on Taly.
Mephistophane's isn't all that well articulated and lacks venom and STW's has been "Just trust me I gotta figure out some trajectory" excuse for waiting until later in the game to explain their read.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Sorry, I find it difficult to be nice to anyone who fmpov, has a ludicrous sr on me. *shrug*
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Who the fuck is White Diamond?In post 300, Varsoon wrote:Nico, talk to me.
Let's play ball.
Don't be like White Diamond and spend all day isolated from the people who need to talk to you.
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Yes, I do wish they would explain that more. @Stw, is there some reason you are holding back in explaining your srs/votes?In post 305, Varsoon wrote:It's more than just that I disagree with them;
I fundamentally do not understand where either slot is coming from and the basis that either has for a scumread there.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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Sure, once I win the lottery.
Or also, if you start a youtube channel.
Like I honestly don’t mean to be rude but Taly’s reason for sr us, is just out there to me, for want of a better phrase, so I just can’t take it at all seriously.ShowHydra of Aristophanes and Nancy Drew 39
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I'm not really sold on this play being in line with their previous towngames. I've never seen Shoshin be this furtive about a read and, in my experience, when people are that dodgy, it's because they are scum.
It's also important to note that it's not just Shoshin driving that hydra; theworst is in there, too. If we're to believe their posts are jointly written and they are posting as 'one entity' or whatever, you should take that into account as well.
Regardless, I'm basing my reads (as much as I can) on this game and its contents, independent of anything else. In this game, I don't like how the STW slot has played. Their appeals when I was pressuring them strike me as really egregious, too.
P-EDIT: I wish Nico would be more present in games. Nico joining games, then getting frustrated and lowkey ducking out makes it really hard to read the slot.
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@Tibor & Lumia : White Diamond is a character from Steven Universe and is relevant in the current arc that's being shown. She's highly secluded--Steven throws a ball just to get a chance to talk to her, but she doesn't show up.
@Mephisto: I mean that I'm not seeing a lot of articulation about why Taly is scum here. I'm not seeing real passion in your read against Taly; when I say it lacks venom, I don't mean frustration or expletives, I mean that your read there is without much of a push; if you scumread them, it's not like you're doing anything to wagon them or get them lynched, etc.
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I might start a youtube channel, but I dunno what I'd put on there. :/
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OoooooooohIn post 303, Varsoon wrote:lacks venom
The last time Varsoon said this was about my TvT push on DVa on Excalibur, where he was scum. ("Like you v auro feels venomless", "That's why it feels venomless")
Another time Varsoon said this was in viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75314&hilit=venom, where he was also scum. ("like it's lacking venom")
One more instance; viewtopic.php?f=84&t=38199&hilit=venom, also scum. ("lacked the typical venom")
There's a towngame where he says "I'm used to town Mac having a lot less venom", but contextually feels different.
There's one more where he says "you lost a good bit of the venom", which also doesn't exactly match directly calling something venomless.
Possible scumtell?
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