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Post Post #325  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:12 am

:facepalm:
NEW GTKTaly!

"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
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Post Post #326  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:13 am

In post 314, Michael Scott wrote:Also, you're not worried I'm trying to pocket you?

Nancy's ignoring me, I see. :roll:

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Post Post #327  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:15 am

In post 307, Taly wrote:
In post 303, Varsoon wrote:Yeah, I really don't understand the scumreads on Taly.
Mephistophane's isn't all that well articulated and lacks venom and STW's has been "Just trust me I gotta figure out some trajectory" excuse for waiting until later in the game to explain their read.


The thing is, I made a COMPLETE reply on ANY meta-scumread about me in my STW spoiler textwall.

And their leads to me thinking their read on me is meta-based.

Mephisto is actively ignoring any posts I've made to explain my thoughts.

If they're really town, they need to actually step back and talk their thoughts out together because it doesn't read as consistent or productive to gamesolving


Look, I don’t do things that way - EVER and if that is your only means to sort me, then you will be incorrectly reading me, in ever game we play together.

If you seriously can’t see why others are tr us, then it most probably because you are tunnelled. Do a metacheck on me, as I already advised you. Until you do, this line of conversation is pointless.
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Post Post #328  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:17 am

In post 310, Varsoon wrote:I don't really have a good one.
People seem to be pointing to how Mephisto chainsawing STW might be a town mindset but I'm not sure that it's really all that alignment indicative, just a bit of a confusing position (from my PoV) to hold.


Well after some flips, I think that would become a lot more apparent.
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Post Post #329  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:21 am

Sorry to let ya down, Jimothy, but I use that phrase regardless of alignment. :P

I agree, we should get some FLIPS
VOTE: Shoshin the Worst
FLIP IT

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Post Post #330  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:22 am

Triple Vote : Shoshin the Worst

That'll do,
That'll do.

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Post Post #331  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:25 am

In post 312, Taly wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76341

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=76098

these were my most recent completed mafia games... both of which were several months ago so meta there isn't too reliable within itself.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75978

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76441

here are 2 compeleted towngames... which is not 100% accurate meta anymore

>_> I'm focusing waaaaay too much on a read with me but this is annoying AF

...I'm done with entertaining ANY meta-stated read on me after this point, and I'm not replying to Mephisto until they actually develop a unique read or respond to whenever the fuck STW decides to post


Thanks for these. In your case meta isn’t terribly reliable. I can see examples from your posts here that I similar examples in both your scum/town games. So, I was starting to tl you but after reading these, it’s a complete null.
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Post Post #332  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:29 am

In post 329, Varsoon wrote:Sorry to let ya down, Jimothy, but I use that phrase regardless of alignment. :P


Sure, 'soon, but I dug up all the instances and you've only ever directly called something "lacking venom"/"venomless" as scum :cool:
Correct me if I'm wrong, with proof. :P

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Post Post #333  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:30 am

In post 332, Auro wrote:
In post 329, Varsoon wrote:Sorry to let ya down, Jimothy, but I use that phrase regardless of alignment. :P


Sure, 'soon, but I dug up all the instances and you've only ever directly called something "lacking venom"/"venomless" as scum :cool:
Correct me if I'm wrong, with proof. :P

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Gahhh Hydra slip!
@Mod, delete plizz. I'm quoting it again here

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Post Post #334  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:31 am

You looked at every single game I've ever played and searched the word 'venom'?

Stay in your Hydra, detective.

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Post Post #335  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:31 am

In post 314, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 311, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:MS, is probably town as well - even if it is a sign of the apocalypse - that Auro is correctly reading me. He thought I might be scum in Excalibur.

Heya, I obv-towned you in Jester till you went all anti-strategy :P
And I townread you in Excalibur!

Also... "Aurocalypse"? Or is that too much :lol:

Also, you're not worried I'm trying to pocket you?

~James


I’m really digging that name. If we ever hydra together, I want that name. :lol:

I only tend to worry about that, when it either seems A) to come out of nowhere. B) makes no sense. C) reads disingenuous or fake somehow.

Generally if I’m suspicious of a tr on me, I usually have a damn good reason for it and am more often than not, correct.

James? What happened to Jimothy? :lol:
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Post Post #336  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:31 am

@ProFlavor what are your reads?
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Post Post #337  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:37 am

In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I’m really digging that name. If we ever hydra together, I want that name. :lol:

Sure. :3

In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I only tend to worry about that, when it either seems A) to come out of nowhere. B) makes no sense. C) reads disingenuous or fake somehow.

Generally if I’m suspicious of a tr on me, I usually have a damn good reason for it and am more often than not, correct.

I thought you'd take my townlean to be both A) and C), I haven't even explained why I townlean you though..?
In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:James? What happened to Jimothy? :lol:

It's a joke in The Office. ~00:50
Spoiler:


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Post Post #338  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:37 am

In post 251, ProFlavor wrote:I don't like u r a person 2 pushing pint - the push has a lot of stuff that pint hasn't done (e.g. promise of catch up) and less stuff along the lines of "pint is scummy because he did X"

why is activity now AI?

~ woof


This is their only serious post and there’s no comment about other stuff that’s happened.
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Post Post #339  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:39 am

In post 323, Varsoon wrote:I'm not really sold on this play being in line with their previous towngames. I've never seen Shoshin be this furtive about a read and, in my experience, when people are that dodgy, it's because they are scum.

It's also important to note that it's not just Shoshin driving that hydra; theworst is in there, too. If we're to believe their posts are jointly written and they are posting as 'one entity' or whatever, you should take that into account as well.

Regardless, I'm basing my reads (as much as I can) on this game and its contents, independent of anything else. In this game, I don't like how the STW slot has played. Their appeals when I was pressuring them strike me as really egregious, too.

P-EDIT: I wish Nico would be more present in games. Nico joining games, then getting frustrated and lowkey ducking out makes it really hard to read the slot.

P-PEDIT:
@Tibor & Lumia : White Diamond is a character from Steven Universe and is relevant in the current arc that's being shown. She's highly secluded--Steven throws a ball just to get a chance to talk to her, but she doesn't show up.

@Mephisto: I mean that I'm not seeing a lot of articulation about why Taly is scum here. I'm not seeing real passion in your read against Taly; when I say it lacks venom, I don't mean frustration or expletives, I mean that your read there is without much of a push; if you scumread them, it's not like you're doing anything to wagon them or get them lynched, etc.

P-P-PEDIT:
I might start a youtube channel, but I dunno what I'd put on there. :/
I stream from time to time, when I find time for it.


Taly is the one who keeps insisting I’m sr him. All I said was that I’m not currently tr him. I never push unless I’m really confident like I was with Mitilos, because I caught him in a lie and knew he was confiscum. It is extremely rare for me to have confident hard scumreads on D1. Usually when that happens, scum is being blatantly obvscummy.

Based on the games Taly linked, he can show similar levels of frustration as either alignment. I don’t know how closely you were paying attention to Labrynth but I incorrectly wrong townread him for much of that game. My metareads based on play > to reads based off of metachecks.
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Post Post #340  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:40 am

In post 334, Varsoon wrote:You looked at every single game I've ever played and searched the word 'venom'?

Stay in your Hydra, detective.

I just went to your profile, searched "Venom", and it showed me your entire usage of the word in all posts.
I went into each of the games it was mentioned in and checked your alignment.
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=20928

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Post Post #341  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:44 am

Taly I’m a bit lost on why you’re scumreading Mephistophanes. What was the original reasoning before this 1v1 started?
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Post Post #342  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:49 am

In post 326, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 314, Michael Scott wrote:Also, you're not worried I'm trying to pocket you?

Nancy's ignoring me, I see. :roll:

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No, I’m not. I was just catching up.
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Post Post #343  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:52 am

In post 337, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I’m really digging that name. If we ever hydra together, I want that name. :lol:

Sure. :3

In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I only tend to worry about that, when it either seems A) to come out of nowhere. B) makes no sense. C) reads disingenuous or fake somehow.

Generally if I’m suspicious of a tr on me, I usually have a damn good reason for it and am more often than not, correct.

I thought you'd take my townlean to be both A) and C), I haven't even explained why I townlean you though..?
In post 335, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:James? What happened to Jimothy? :lol:

It's a joke in The Office. ~00:50
Spoiler:


~Jim


Okay, why do you townlean us then?

Yes, I get it now.
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Post Post #344  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:54 am

In post 340, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 334, Varsoon wrote:You looked at every single game I've ever played and searched the word 'venom'?

Stay in your Hydra, detective.

I just went to your profile, searched "Venom", and it showed me your entire usage of the word in all posts.
I went into each of the games it was mentioned in and checked your alignment.
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=20928

~Detective Michael Scarn / Jimothy / Auro


Oh, I was town in Antihero, Mini 1574, and two of the Touhou games.
Anyway, speaking of context, I'm criticizing Mephisto's apparent scumread on Taly (which, now I see, isn't actually a scumread, so of course it's venomless) rather than defending myself by trying to undermine someone pushing me (which was the case of the use in Civilzation Mafia, at least) :3

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Post Post #345  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:54 am

It's cool that I've got 4 pages of posts using the word idiot.

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Post Post #346  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:55 am

In post 343, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Okay, why do you townlean us then?

Your reaction to someone SR-ing you. I imagine as scum you'd prolly be a bit more pacifying dealing with one.

I kinda found your reaction to my declared townlean a bit towny as well, gut.

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Post Post #347  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:56 am

Spoiler:
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Post Post #348  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:57 am

Does remind me that while I have an obscene amount of posts, I'd still have to double it to get in the top 5.
How the shit did Titus cinch the top posting position on-site?
Wild.

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Post Post #349  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:59 am

Spoiler: Flagrant hate on RC
Wanna take this time to admire that Radiant Cowbells has 50,000 posts;
dude's title should be 'Shitposts Frequently'
Actually, dude shouldn't have a title
Dude should be sitebanned.

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