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Post Post #350  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:00 am

In post 346, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 343, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Okay, why do you townlean us then?

Your reaction to someone SR-ing you. I imagine as scum you'd prolly be a bit more pacifying dealing with one.

I kinda found your reaction to my declared townlean a bit towny as well, gut.

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I wish I had trusted my gut last game. Like I had scum!Ducky nailed dead to rights, then he suddenly pocketed me, and I forgot all about it. :facepalm:
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Post Post #351  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:00 am

In post 345, Varsoon wrote:It's cool that I've got 4 pages of posts using the word idiot.

:lol:

About the context thing, I mean using it as a direct address ("the case lacked venom", or "the push lacked venom"), independent of whether the case was on you or not. In Excalibur, you called my TvT venomless.

I'll do a deeper study into it later since I'm off my computer. :P

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Post Post #352  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:02 am

In post 350, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I wish I had trusted my gut last game. Like I had scum!Ducky nailed dead to rights, then he suddenly pocketed me, and I forgot all about it.

I'm trying a different style this game and seeing where my gut can lead me, not just cold hard logic.

Let's see where it goes.

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Post Post #353  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:02 am

In post 349, Varsoon wrote:
Spoiler: Flagrant hate on RC
Wanna take this time to admire that Radiant Cowbells has 50,000 posts;
dude's title should be 'Shitposts Frequently'
Actually, dude shouldn't have a title
Dude should be sitebanned.


:(

You two just completely misunderstand each other. Seriously.

But this thread isn’t the place to discuss that.
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Post Post #354  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:03 am

Yeah, let's keep this thread... Venomless, amirite?

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Post Post #355  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:07 am

In post 352, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 350, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I wish I had trusted my gut last game. Like I had scum!Ducky nailed dead to rights, then he suddenly pocketed me, and I forgot all about it.

I'm trying a different style this game and seeing where my gut can lead me, not just cold hard logic.

Let's see where it goes.

~Auro


I rely on gut, logic, tone, mechanics, VCA and of course meta, in combination to try to form the most accurate reads.

But it’s not easy when you suggest to someone that they replace out if they lack the time to make decent reads, then you get called “rude” for that. That slot fipped scum.
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Post Post #356  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:07 am

Sa'll good, Jimothy, this game will serve as proof I can use the phrase in direct address as town. :D

Spoiler: Yup
But yeah, I'm probably biased. Dude's compromised more than one game for me. I've never had a pleasurable experience playing with him. The attitude he espouses is not what I envision as something representative of this site or one that should be allowed. We're definitely fundamentally different in how we think of things. More on that outside of the game, but whatever.

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Post Post #357  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:08 am

In post 354, Michael Scott wrote:Yeah, let's keep this thread... Venomless, amirite?

~Jimothy


+1

The only real venom - maybe - was in that U2 video I posted.
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Post Post #358  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:11 am

So if you don't scumread Taly, Mephisto, who do you suspect?
Who do you think needs more focus put on them and how are you/do you plan to do that?

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Post Post #359  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:16 am

In post 70, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 38, NicoRobin wrote:I am in this game.


I believe you.

In post 39, NicoRobin wrote:Why again? I wanted to replace later. Instead I got shangaied into this.


“Why again “ what?

Unhappy about something?
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Post Post #360  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:45 am

I don't, uh
I don't get how that answers my questions.

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Post Post #361  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:53 am

In post 355, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:But it’s not easy when you suggest to someone that they replace out if they lack the time to make decent reads, then you get called “rude” for that. That slot fipped scum.


O.o Watcha talking about?

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Post Post #362  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:35 pm

In post 360, Varsoon wrote:I don't, uh
I don't get how that answers my questions.


You asked me who I suspect. I want to see what she answers.
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Post Post #363  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:37 pm

That makes more sense.

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Post Post #364  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:39 pm

In post 361, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 355, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:But it’s not easy when you suggest to someone that they replace out if they lack the time to make decent reads, then you get called “rude” for that. That slot fipped scum.


O.o Watcha talking about?

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Oh sorry. In the last game on D1, tw kept insisting he put me as a scumlean, while saying that he didn’t have the time to sort me properly, so I suggested he replace out in that case and another player called me “rude” for it and as we all know, Ducky flipped scum.
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Post Post #365  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:42 pm

I mean, it is rude to tell other people to replace out, I feel.
I really hate replace-outs. They compromise game integrity.

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Post Post #366  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:07 pm

In post 365, Varsoon wrote:I mean, it is rude to tell other people to replace out, I feel.
I really hate replace-outs. They compromise game integrity.


Not when they deserve it imo. If you’re actively pushing wagons in a game, you had better have the time to properly sort those wagons you’re pushing. I truly adore tw but I stand by what I said in that game. If you’re not too involved in a game, that’s entirely different.
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Post Post #367  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:08 pm

Game integrity is also compromised by shitty reads, so there’s that too,
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Post Post #368  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:14 pm

In post 336, Alchemist21 wrote:@ProFlavor what are your reads?

I posted them in our hydra thread and FL said he pretty much agreed so here

As of p11

1.Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra) - could go either way - I feel like TW has lurked it out because he knows he could get speed lynched haha
2.Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra) - prob town
3.Varsoon - prob town
4.Almost Chara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra) - dunno yet
5.Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra) - dunno yet
6.Kokichi Oma - dunno yet
7.Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra) - prob town
8.nicorobin - would lynch
9.Mewtaph - dunno yet
10.alchemist21- dunno yet
11.ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra) - hallelujah
12.u r a person 2 - would lynch
13.pinturicchio - dunno yet
14.Taly - probably town


On reflection of Nico - I played a game with Nico and everyone made a meta comment about her lurking - so obviously she is lurking but the reason I put “would lynch” rather than dunno yet is that the 2nd post was like someone dragged her into the game - ie - setting up an excuse to not bother posting

But then I think the lurk meta might have been Town indicative and I can’t remember (someone confirm???)

I’ll read the last few pages

I’ve never hydra’d before - I’m not sure how much I’m supposed to post or confer in private :lol:

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Post Post #369  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:16 pm

In post 368, profii wrote:
In post 336, Alchemist21 wrote:@ProFlavor what are your reads?

I posted them in our hydra thread and FL said he pretty much agreed so here

As of p11

1.Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra) - could go either way - I feel like TW has lurked it out because he knows he could get speed lynched haha
2.Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra) - prob town
3.Varsoon - prob town
4.Almost Chara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra) - dunno yet
5.Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra) - dunno yet
6.Kokichi Oma - dunno yet
7.Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra) - prob town
8.nicorobin - would lynch
9.Mewtaph - dunno yet
10.alchemist21- dunno yet
11.ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra) - hallelujah
12.u r a person 2 - would lynch
13.pinturicchio - dunno yet
14.Taly - probably town


On reflection of Nico - I played a game with Nico and everyone made a meta comment about her lurking - so obviously she is lurking but the reason I put “would lynch” rather than dunno yet is that the 2nd post was like someone dragged her into the game - ie - setting up an excuse to not bother posting

But then I think the lurk meta might have been Town indicative and I can’t remember (someone confirm???)

I’ll read the last few pages

I’ve never hydra’d before - I’m not sure how much I’m supposed to post or confer in private :lol:

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Post Post #370  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:23 pm

Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.
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Post Post #371  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm

In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.


No, I’m not suspicious of Nico for lurking, she does that a lot as town, especially on D1. It’s what she said, that is making me suspicious. That’s why I want to get her answer to my question.
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Post Post #372  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:43 pm

well my vote is because pintu is one of the few players here I have experience with, so I want to sort him, but I need him to play.

The "push" is a response to stw's questions which I wanted to give a full faith effort for them because they are some of the few players that have experience with me and I want to give them the best opportunity to find town!me.

my town leans right now are
STW -tone,play I think TW is trying to use his experience modding and playing with me to read me and that's why he's asking me for my thoughts about specific posts.
varsoon - sheeping taly
almost chara - town by play, thought process behind lynch pool
tibor and lumia i like the thought in gemma's play and brass i think sounds town, this is pretty light even for this list
taly - natural progression from his initial gambit to current play.

Let's take the leap of faith that these are correct. If there was scum on stw's wagon, i'd look first at pin, proflavor and alch

still like the pin vote
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Post Post #373  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:51 pm

URAP2's post above looks manufactured.
Current scumleans include FlavorPro, Varsoon and URAP2.

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Post Post #374  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:59 pm

In post 370, Alchemist21 wrote:Flesh out the difference between your scumread of Nico and U2’s scumread of Pint. They seem the same to me because you’re both pushing someone for not posting.

Nicos 2nd post came across like “ugh fine I’ll play if I must” - like a setup for later so she can be like “I’m lurking because I told you I’m already not really engaged in this game” (it’s a weak read on one sentence tbh)

U R is more like “I’m don’t see pint doing anything so I’ll just apply pressure” - I note his point that he knows Pint and wants to sort that slot - but I’m sure U r knows how to play the game in general so there are plenty of other dudes to sort - sticking on a read that basically consists of “he’s not doing anything” makes me think he wants to line up the rest of his reads to “fit in” with town - you can’t do that whilst (up to page 11 which I’ve read properly) most of the game has been about STW because you don’t know who is going to obvtown or scum it up

So I feel like U r is biding his time on an easy read

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