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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:27 am

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Lol I stopped Por Flavor when Chara asked. I'm signing properly now!
Unlike Chara's other head, which seems like a double standard I was gonna be really snarky about but sad on for a bit so it would gcome out like this rather than really dickishly.

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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:28 am

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@MOD: Did we ever get an answer to this? :

In post 322, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 146, Alchemist21 wrote:
@Mod; Is there going to be a record of previous Days’ player list orders or do players have to manually keep track of previous orders?

I also find it somewhat wild that no one had a single vocalized response to my fake triple-vote.

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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:30 am

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In post 451, Varsoon wrote:I also find it somewhat wild that no one had a single vocalized response to my fake triple-vote.
I just assumed it was fake.

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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:30 am

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In post 384, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Wait, no, Mephisto is a top poster and you don't even have a read. What is your read on him,
Bono (U2)


-The left head, maybe? (Brass)
“Bono” :lol:

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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 449, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:One of the dumbest mistakes scum makes in any game is pushing me. I always wind up making them regret it, one way or another.
Challenge accepted, whenever I roll scum against ya. ;)

I'm kinda happy with my URAP vote still, I still felt his posts were fake-ish upon skimming through them.

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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 382, u r a person 2 wrote:I don't like the two posts spent questioning proflavor about an obviously nonsense/joke scum read. @MS what's the deal w/ this?
I assumed it was a joke at first too, but pressing on it and providing "proof" indicated otherwise, and I could see it as scum encouraging a quicklynch off poor logic.

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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:39 am

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In post 448, Varsoon wrote:Not a fan of how people sloughed off the STW wagon.
I'm not entirely sold by the URAP2 wagon; feels too easy.
What's your scumcase on STW apart from their lack of signing?
Why does URAP2 feel too easy? Do you mean in the sense of them getting votes without much resistance?

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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:49 am

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In post 402, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 399, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 398, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 296, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 245, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 238, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 234, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Since this never got a good point to be brought up, I am townreading Alchemist rn. His solving looks genuine and he’s quite present. Matches my concept of town!Alchemist over scum!Alchemist.
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PEdit: I’m assuming that’s Shoshin asking me that since I’ve played with tw a lot recently. Idk about U2, I’ll figure it out and post it in a full readlist later most likely.
Also, if tw and U2 form a hydra it should be called Detroit Become Human.
I was wondering why you hadn’t mentioned me yet. It was getting weird.
Alchemist, as someone who has no experience whatsoever in playing with you: how would you be reading yourself, if you were another slot in this game? (Sorry for the annoying question. I'm going somewhere with this I promise.)
Town.
Could you throw me a couple of things which you think are unlikely to come from scum!you this game so we can tighten up our read?
Scum me these days gets nervous and avoids posting, especially if someone like Gamma or RC who I know can read me well is present. As it’s been said to me before there’s a certain thoughtfulness in my Town posting that my scumgame lacks. My Townread on Ari is a good example of that.
Nice, we had an almost identical conversation about that post. At first we weren't entirely sure how to parse it (the reasoning was a bit abstract compared to the more commonplace meta townclears) but the more we spoke about it the more we started to think there's probably no reason to make that post at all, as scum. The timing was also nice.

One of our heads has a habit of tunnelling experienced players who haven't played for a while
but you still came out as "probably town".
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Sho referring to Duck, obviously.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:01 am

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In post 432, NicoRobin wrote:Baa, baa, black shiiiipppp
This slot is locktown, NOT. :lol:
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 433, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 233, Shoshin the worst wrote:Hey Gamma, nice to play with you again. Any thoughts on U2's alignment?
I can confidently assure you they're Irish aligned. :P

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:22 am

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In post 440, Almost Chara wrote:@Nephistophanes: Elemental Large <<Town!Taly (not in a hydra)
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:24 am

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@Michael Slott:
The appeals they made while I was pushing them were not the kind of appeals that I associate with town.
The whole 'stretch your mind' appeal is one that I've only seen them make as scum.
When confronted with this piece of meta that wasn't even all that damning, their defense was to handwave that the hydra has no meta, which isn't really an argument that I'd see either Shoshin or TW making, as town, when confronted this way.
They produced a Taly scumread when under pressure, but when asked to elaborate on that scumread, they failed to be able to do so and instead defaulted to a position that I hard scumread--that they have some sort of info/tell that they can't share and are waiting to reveal. This is a scum position because they can just either; 1. Come up with a convenient lie later, once they've had time to think on it and Taly has more content or 2. They can just never reveal it if people forget about it.
The way they handled my pressure in regards to the Taly scumread isn't forthright as Shoshin usually is as town and reads as scummy to me.
Since then, they've largely done nothing of note and seem to have basically taken my pressure on them as an excuse to duck out for a 'cooling off' period where they can let suspicion on them subside/die entirely. Town doesn't do this, in my experience.
Their resistance re:signing isn't something that I townread.
How they handled the signing thing isn't something I see coming from a town mindset, either. Obviously, there's the WIFOM that stubborn town just wouldn't concede to signing or that scum wouldn't back down to try to seem like stubborn town or that backing down would be survivalist from a scum PoV but honestly

I just don't like it.

Couple that with people finding a lot of quick reasons to wagon someone who had, up to that point, phoned in pretty easy-to-attack play and the general way the wagon was abandoned and I can come to one of two conclusions:

1. STW slot is scum.
2. If not, STW slot isn't playing in a pro-town manner and had scum on their wagon.

Out of all of the players in the game, STW has the most amount of content that I scumread, so I'll be keeping my vote there and still working for a lynch there. The natural discrediting tactic that you're going to see happen is that scum will try to call this a tunnel, despite me being engaged with other slots, reading the game, and trying to figure it out beyond STW. They'll try to act like having a scumread you want to get lynched is a tunnel, somehow, and therefore unlikely to produce a flip on scum; it's important that you know this is absolutely a discrediting tactic and dismiss it as such.

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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:25 am

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In post 441, pinturicchio wrote:I'm back.

Already50 is making me want to bang my head against the wall indeed.

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That’s just the initial reaction, further exposure makes you want to upgrade to a brick wall.

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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:27 am

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Furthermore, they've been really reductive in saying that the only reasons people have for scumreading them are the signing thing, which, as you can see, is hardly the case.

I don't know if that's scum-indicative, but I hate when people are reductive in that way and I don't think it does town any favors to be like that, so, again, occam's razor, it's not a town slot. Both players in that Hydra are far, far better town players than this.

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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:32 am

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In post 444, pinturicchio wrote:About your long post about me:

- I think you're trying to depict me as crazy ol' Jenkins in order to discredit my scumread on you. You basically talked about how you read me instead of defending yourself about your scummy progression.

- I like Tibor and Lumia, I know pretty well both of them and I usually read them correctly. I think they're town. Gonna ask Pin what he thinks but I'm pretty sure he'll say town too.

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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:33 am

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Varsoon, how confident are you that the slot is scum?

Also while you are at it, do you have other scum reads?

If you've answered these already, feel free to just link, by the way, I am a bit behind since last night I was going to catch up and then played Civ VI instead, go figure!

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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:39 am

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I'd say about 80%. They haven't done anything that absolutely damns them, but they've played in a way highly contrary to expectations from them both as players and from the site standards for what qualifies as town play and from my own standards for what I qualify as town play. I'm more confident I am than any other slot so far; that's why I continue to vote there and campaign for that lynch.

As far as other scumreads go, I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but there are definitely slots I'd be more or less critical of depending on STW's flip, independent of that:
I find Mephisto's play really curious but I'm hesitant to say it's scum play.
I think that at least one scum player is certainly lying low; odds are very good that we'd hit scum in one of Mewtaph, Nico Robin, and Kokichi Oma--all of which have checked in but largely avoided commenting on anything game-related besides vanity.

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:42 am

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In post 450, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Lol I stopped Por Flavor when Chara asked. I'm signing properly now!
Unlike Chara's other head, which seems like a double standard I was gonna be really snarky about but sad on for a bit so it would gcome out like this rather than really dickishly.

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You could always do what Math did in DnD mafia and sign your posts, ~Not Nancy. Not recommended. :lol:
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:43 am

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In post 451, Varsoon wrote:
@MOD: Did we ever get an answer to this? :

In post 322, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 146, Alchemist21 wrote:
@Mod; Is there going to be a record of previous Days’ player list orders or do players have to manually keep track of previous orders?

I also find it somewhat wild that no one had a single vocalized response to my fake triple-vote.

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*shrug* I thought it was fake.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:44 am

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For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.

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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:45 am

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In post 466, Varsoon wrote:I'd say about 80%. They haven't done anything that absolutely damns them, but they've played in a way highly contrary to expectations from them both as players and from the site standards for what qualifies as town play and from my own standards for what I qualify as town play. I'm more confident I am than any other slot so far; that's why I continue to vote there and campaign for that lynch.

As far as other scumreads go, I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but there are definitely slots I'd be more or less critical of depending on STW's flip, independent of that:
I find Mephisto's play really curious but I'm hesitant to say it's scum play.
I think that at least one scum player is certainly lying low; odds are very good that we'd hit scum in one of Mewtaph, Nico Robin, and Kokichi Oma--all of which have checked in but largely avoided commenting on anything game-related besides vanity.

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Thanks.

And I will say that I definitely did not remember two of those three being in this game, good keeping track.

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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:45 am

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In post 454, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 449, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:One of the dumbest mistakes scum makes in any game is pushing me. I always wind up making them regret it, one way or another.
Challenge accepted, whenever I roll scum against ya. ;)

I'm kinda happy with my URAP vote still, I still felt his posts were fake-ish upon skimming through them.

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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:46 am

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In post 469, Varsoon wrote:For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.

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I thought it was a joke.

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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:48 am

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In post 456, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 448, Varsoon wrote:Not a fan of how people sloughed off the STW wagon.
I'm not entirely sold by the URAP2 wagon; feels too easy.
What's your scumcase on STW apart from their lack of signing?
Why does URAP2 feel too easy? Do you mean in the sense of them getting votes without much resistance?

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:48 am

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Nah, my jokes usually have punchlines

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