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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 1899, Trekkie99 wrote:Thank God for deadlines in normal games...

At this point I'm in for lynching gamma or sheep but not flavor. I like having him around
What's your arguments for Gamma and Sheep? You might be able to convince me since I'm not voting anywhere else.


Also, there's too many people in this game. I've got a town read on Trekkie, but I kinda forgot his existence...
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:08 pm

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someone give me a reason to care rn
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:09 pm

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In post 1901, light_ganski wrote:someone give me a reason to care rn
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:17 pm

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In post 1902, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1901, light_ganski wrote:someone give me a reason to care rn
This feels fake considering how sheep reacted to the case on him.
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:23 pm

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votecount 2.104 players voting for Flavor Leaf (light_ganski, sheepsaysmeep, vonflare, Party Boat)
4 players voting for sheepsaysmeep (Purrcocet, Jingle, Jingle, Jingle)
3 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Flavor Leaf, Xtoxm, Wisdom)
2 players voting for Xtoxm (Ausuka, Gamma Emerald)
1 player voting for Vaxkiller (Kokichi Oma)
1 player voting for TheBrie (Wagonomics)
1 player voting for Nancy Drew 39 (Saudade)
1 player voting for Saudade (Nancy Drew 39)

6 players not voting (hebichan, Theta Alpine, Trekkie99, singletonking, TheBrie, Vaxkiller)

with 23 votes, it takes 12 to lynch.

mod notes: searching for replacements for hebichan and Theta Alpine.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 1903, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1902, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1901, light_ganski wrote:someone give me a reason to care rn
This feels fake considering how sheep reacted to the case on him.
those past two pages are some of the most aids ive ever seen
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 1666, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: gamma
@Mod - Wisdom voted Gamma after he voted me and prior to me voting Gamma.
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:20 pm

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I get why people are willing to let Flavor continue living for now and given that trekkie at least is a town read of mine I can deal with it at least until we finish getting replacements in I guess

For the record I think that boon/Flavor would throw out about the same amount of AtE and and self-meta and a lot of the kind of minor manipulation I think he's doing with pushing people away from his wagon as either alignment b/c it works and he can get away with it and I think that people are letting it slide too easy at the moment given that his predecessor fakeclaimed a godamn cop guilty but I do get it

I very much dislike Brie's last two posts and looking back and looking back some of her earlier stuff felt more posturey than scumhunty and wagonomics is prob town and also has a gutscum read on her so she can be my next filler vote while nobody gets lynched for another 2 weeks

VOTE: TheBrie

also does anyone want to reread things and post about it with me like over the weekend
b/c I'm aware that I'm currently being lazier than I should be about rereading but I am also tired now but very capable of doing things either sat. night or sunday early afternoon
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:34 pm

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xyzzy why do you keep not counting my votes

VOTE: gamma
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:59 am

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Sorry prodge, I'm kinda detached from this game
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 am

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In post 1897, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1896, Saudade wrote:wish girls irl would give me as much attention as Nancy does
Why do I get the feeling this is a town post
this post is like not even game related though? why is it towny to you?
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:16 am

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In post 1905, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1903, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1902, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 1901, light_ganski wrote:someone give me a reason to care rn
This feels fake considering how sheep reacted to the case on him.
those past two pages are some of the most aids ive ever seen
Why? What specifically is bad about the pages? What are you doing to solve that problem?
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:40 am

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what am i supposed to do


im done pretending i shouldnt have subbed out weeks ago

more than half the game and i clearly and rightfully do not want to play right now
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:40 am

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someone needs to be majed

i would be wiliing to maj myself right now and it would help the gamestate
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 1516, xyzzy wrote:2019-01-09 -
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new post because honestly nesting several quotes with conflicting info is way too confusing but I want to make sure it's clear that replacements are still needed for this.
I cancelled the replace out. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 1912, sheepsaysmeep wrote:what am i supposed to do


im done pretending i shouldnt have subbed out weeks ago

more than half the game and i clearly and rightfully do not want to play right now
In post 1913, sheepsaysmeep wrote:someone needs to be majed

i would be wiliing to maj myself right now and it would help the gamestate
How?
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:46 am

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In post 1915, sheepsaysmeep wrote:nancy

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I told him, I had changed my mind, so I was legit shocked to read that.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:52 am

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something really really wacky is going on with the votes?? jingle has 3 votes, wisdom has 0, there are 24 votes in the game? what's going on there?

xyzzy is a they btw.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:56 am

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Spoiler: Read Walls for the Wall God, Skulls for the Skull Throne
Mechanical Solutions:
Kokichi Oma
Theta Alpine

Town:
Flavor Leaf
Vaxkiller
Purrcocet
light_gansk
Nancy Drew 39
Trekkie99
Wisdom

Town Enough for Government Work:
TheBrie
Gamma Emerald
Wagonomics
hebichan

Null:
Ausuka
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vonflare

Scum:
Party Boat
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I'm perfectly aware I'm probably wrong on a few townreads, but that's where I is today after I finished reading the thread last night.

A few slots I feel merit the additional discussion:

SoonLeaf: Anyone scumreading this slot, explain to me the scum motivation behind fakeclaiming cop early game in presumed multiball. Alternatively, link me to a case that isn't "Varsoon wasn't efforting"/"Flavor Leaf has a big scum range."

PB: AFAICT this is as close as there is to a universal townread slot and I don't know why. All of his pushes are low effort {Varsoon, Leo, Jaylow}. I don't see anything ubertown in his ISO, he's skirting around the edges of the NancyLeaf fight, and there are a few posts that are just really blegh. is pretty garbo considering he hasn't really done any work to push/sort Theta since the danny flip. is waffly about the Leo lynch. comes across as looking for a reason to lynch potato and not trying to read potato.

Xtoxm: Why you posting reads in the Neighborhood and not the real thread? Apparently your neighborhood content is what makes PB townread you, so why isn't it relevant for mass consumption? Also, what is your neighborhood content?
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:58 am

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Well... I'm a triple voter.

I'm pretty sure that xyzzy just keeps missing Wis's vote change.

Not sure where the other extra vote comes from.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:58 am

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In post 1918, Ausuka wrote:something really really wacky is going on with the votes?? jingle has 3 votes, wisdom has 0, there are 24 votes in the game? what's going on there?

xyzzy is a they btw.
Well, my accidental hydra slip got a prodge, no joke. :lol:

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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 1920, Jingle wrote:Well... I'm a triple voter.

I'm pretty sure that xyzzy just keeps missing Wis's vote change.

Not sure where the other extra vote comes from.
Yes, I noticed and you are only the 2nd vote on sheep, who I feel pretty confident is town here. But he doesn’t semm to care anymore, so meh?
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:03 am

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Spoiler: @Nancy
In post 841, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 177, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 46, Leodanny wrote:Hi I’m here not lurking just V/LA
this self consciousness that it might be interpreted as lurking sort of bothers me

and i v read varsoon outing the neighborhood on the belief that at least one of the people in it is a wolf
In post 212, sheepsaysmeep wrote:meh all this mechanical tlak that's happening makes it hard to get real alignment reads off of tbh

also im roughly at top of page 6 and sort of uncomfortable with how much mechanical talk varsoon has and the thread presence that comes with it but ive seen like no real sorting/reads off of posts in the game and getting pretty strongly paranoid that it could just be scum skating by past my radar by putting out mechanical role talk that isnt that hard to fake
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In post 235, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Questions for Varsoon voters. Why does scum!Varsoon out the hood in the first place? Why not encourage all 4 of us, to keep it hiddden?
as i said earlier i think hoods are never-rarely ai

my original reaction was that it was likely villager motivated to out it with the reasons he used, but sort of decided it wouldnt really be hard to fake at all as wolf

it still slightly? holds me back but im comfortable voting him rn
In post 243, sheepsaysmeep wrote:looking at postcounts this game, gamma and varsson lead substantially yet (acknowledging that i rushed my read and prolly glossed over quite a bit) i remember no real solving content from either of them which is a pretty good simplification of my varsoon w read
In post 383, sheepsaysmeep wrote:varsoon's heavily slacked off since game start tbh
In post 513, sheepsaysmeep wrote:meh im reading up and leo's posts still feel sort of panicky/tryign to force something out to hopefully survie this day phase



i still just cant really put away the concern that this wagon suddenly appeared in like the span of a page and the varsoon wagon totally disappeared

sort of want other peoples thoughts on what they think that means if that wasnt a topic of discussion while i was gone
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In post 518, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Sheep, you’ve been agreeing with Varsoon’s stance wrt the hood. I really don’t understand how he is your biggest scumread?
a) my read on him has nothing to do with agreeing on the hood

if you read my posting on him or open my iso and command f, it shouldnt be hard at all to see where im coming from or trace my progression clearly which should be a pretty sufficient summary from what i remember that i posted while reading his posting

this is a simplified compilation of things ive essentially talked about at points, but

look for like, actual reads or sorting from varsoon
not mechanical talk, but actual reads

anyone who townreads him is essentially letting him slip by off of his mechanics talk, and i originally townread? it but it's not hard to fake at all once i think more about it

and when you read more deeply into his mechanics stuff it's basically just "oh here's the neighborhood, i outed because i think there's a wolf in here i think, actually, there's a chance that there arent any wolves here and here's the probability and here are 20 reasons why" or smtg which is basically just useless and i cant even tell what he's supposed to be trying to say so no i dont see a stance to agree on

wagonomics ish talk below

b) i want to note for clarity that he might not even be my current scumread rn as im switching back and forth between leodanny and varsoon

but in terms of general stuff thats happened leodanny is like a varsoon 2.0 of this game

i scumread them off a similar premis where they were posting a lot and had a pretty noticable thread presence but after a more in depth look no content or solving
a wagon suddenly appeared on them after i tried pushing my uncomfort there for a bit, and soon they were really high up in votes
that original high posting high impact at point 1 is gone and they immediately drop in activity/wim/confidence and panic and go into posting to try to survive mode

the leodanny wagon is great and i support it, but varsoon was pressured, he responded terribly, and the pressure just went away and i think it's very important and am officially asking that some of the peopel who were originally on his wagon and ditched to at least maintain some of that pressure

(also while on the topic of wagons, the way his wagon just disappeared when another started emerging is nagl imo)

c) also if there's anything that stops me from just totally trusting you/putting you in the town core it's your unwavering defense and confidence in varsoon? like his wagon has been a prominent thing and youre arguing against it without budging and i'd expect you to at least reconsider or be somewhat paranoid or have at least some doubt with the amount of reasons that are being put forth against him because the basis for your defense on him is fairly weak from what ive read and if he flips wolf i turn straight to you
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i scumread them off a similar premis where they were posting a lot and had a pretty noticable thread presence but after a more in depth look no content or solving
a wagon suddenly appeared on them after i tried pushing my uncomfort there for a bit, and soon they were really high up in votes
that original high posting high impact at point 1 is gone and they immediately drop in activity/wim/confidence and panic and go into posting to try to survive mode
this is the textbook wolf response to pressure when theyre getting by with a majority being comfortable/v reading them until a wagon suddenly appears

and it's exactly what varsoon did
In post 587, sheepsaysmeep wrote:the varsoon wagon was still a large thing earlier, i never saw anything or any reasons supporting the fact that it just disappeared, and ive argued multiple timesi for another wagon and it's just been ignored


the resistance to wagoning varsoon is so tangible
In post 797, sheepsaysmeep wrote:tbh if leo is v he at least gets easier to sort down the line? while varsoon is blatantly just not going to do anything


just read this literally what came up when i command f'ed varsoon in my iso

can everyone at least read through this once because it's really frustrating and demoralizing that no one is really acknowledging my tunnel or arguing against anything ive said here except like one person and ive already given them an obligatory townread for doing that
In post 1075, sheepsaysmeep wrote:individual of who he was tunneling, I found it not hard to buy that kokichis tunnel was genuine

leos posting was very very tunnelable and I was part tunneling him at one point


im ok w/maybe v leaning kokichis tunnel there
In post 1765, sheepsaysmeep wrote:also after flavor's self vote im basically going to tunnel this slot to flip

yes im acknowledgly going to tunnel try pushing that if you want


Nancy, when you get a chance could you reconcile ^ with your nontunnelly sheep is town read for me?
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 1919, Jingle wrote:SoonLeaf: Anyone scumreading this slot, explain to me the scum motivation behind fakeclaiming cop early game in presumed multiball. Alternatively, link me to a case that isn't "Varsoon wasn't efforting"/"Flavor Leaf has a big scum range."
it was clearly fps from the start

the rescind was terrible
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