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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:04 am

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In post 703, Shoshin the worst wrote:I see why people blacklist you. :facepalm:
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Just ftr, blacklists are totally fucking stupid and reveals likely arrogance and entitlement feelings on the player, who lowers themselves by resorting to them. I have 0 respect for the ludicrous idea, that anyone has the God-given right, to tell ANYONE, what games they’re allowed to play in. If I was in charge of this site, I would temp ban every single player who relies on this bs, to grossly and unfairly intimidate and manipulate other players.


This post has nothing whatsoever to with Stw but is an entirely ACCURATE view, of how I view this garbage attempt at game bullying, in general.

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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 am

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@Mephisto: No, mod didn't tell me why the kill failed, just that it did. I made double sure that it wasn't just because of flavor of submission, too. :/

VOTE: Nico

I'm fine going down this rabbit hole.
Nico, if you're town in a game, you need to produce content in order to be accurately read.

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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:40 am

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In post 726, Almost Chara wrote:@TWS: Could you also calm down a bit? Let's try to figure things out
mechanically
. Between you and Varsoon I'd say he's townier than you, but I could see you both being Town. Chara probably sees it the other way around, but I'm sure I can convince them this is Varsoon's Town game.

Som anyway.. do you have any knowledge of Starcraft?
Yeah, I think this is town!Varsoon, there is a kind of tell - the exact same reason that SK! Flavor ironically fooled me with in Overkill 2 - about the realness of his role. This doesn’t read fake to me, like it did in Overkill 2.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:41 am

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In post 728, Tibor and Lumia wrote:I'm a little confused as to what more information they can get from your flavor. But, I'm not even sure if a flavor claim would help me specifically anyway. I know so little that unless you are Artanas, Kerrigan, or Arthas I'll have no clue anyway.

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I think you may have SC 1 and 2 confused. :lol:
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:43 am

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In post 729, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 725, Varsoon wrote:@AlmostChara: There are definitely units in Starcraft that can only affect air or ground. The Protoss Reaver, for instance, can shoot out scarab bombs across the ground, but it can't hit flying units. Many of the zerg ground units only have claws and can't attack air units. Shuttles that fly can pick up and transport ground units. So on and so forth.
OK.. good. Now, would it be conceivable at all that someone on the list has that type of effect (targeting your type of action)? Because, when I looked at the list of today EVERYONE is between you and STW, with the exception of Michael Scott. So if ANYONE has a working ability that intercepts your specific type of action then your action will fail and STW won't know why it failed. (Please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm using my imagination now)
Would this have something to do with the whole ordering and positioning mechanics, maybe?
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:51 am

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In post 757, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 275, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 205, Shoshin the worst wrote:VOTE: u r a person 2
Why?
Could you guys give the rest of the thread a chance to post? It’s nice to see you active but I think the last page was all you.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:53 am

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In post 759, Tibor and Lumia wrote:
In post 301, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Sorry, my memory on who was what in Undertale is fuzzy.
Me, A50, B&M, and Venmar/Firebringer were the scumteam
All else were town
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:57 am

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In post 785, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 784, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 574, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 571, Almost Chara wrote:based on Nico's meta, i'm townleaning her slot for now. slightly.
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You're really townleaning a HARD lurker slot... For meta reasons?

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What is remotely townie about Nico’s opening post?
Absolutely nothing, I'm surprised at the "meta townleans" there and hence a bit suspect as well. Especially when the slot has a grand total of 3 posts (or had, at the time of those reads).

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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:59 am

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In post 798, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 789, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 586, Shoshin the worst wrote:
We honestly can't apply BoP because we have no idea what people's alignments are. More that we think the subconscious mindset you've presented with some of your reads has been scum indicative.

We really don't believe in reading people via bop at all. Categorically.

I was looking for some stuff in this game which I should townread. Sorry if this felt like a breakthrough but I'm not sure how to see anything AI in the BoP argument. It might be slightly towny because of the disconnect maybe? But then scum who are caught for the wrong reason often react the same way. So I'm quite net null on it :(
Can you please explain BoP, thanks. And yes, I know it stands for burden of proficiency but I don’t know what that means?
Burden of proficiency.
Basically, the idea that "because Player X isn't proficient, they must be scum". For example, saying "because
Nancy mislynched scum
and had bad reads she must be scum". It's a nonsensical argument.

Here URAP2 is suggesting I'm BoPing him because I'm saying "because you didn't have the same read as us on a lurker post, you must be scum".
Thanks. :)

Mislynched scum? :lol:
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:01 am

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In post 799, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 791, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 599, u r a person 2 wrote:ProFlavor's game is remarkably light.
They are scum reading one person for lurking, me for voting a lurker, and T&L because they always town read them early, as far as I can recall.

They also have a bunch of naked town reads. Currently trying to engage that slot, but I don't have any reason to town read them

I'm still reading almost chara as town. They had that lynch pool early and I could understand the worldview they were living in to have that pool. Since then they have not stood out much to me, which means nothing pinged me.

Alchemist, I am currently sheeping a town read on. He's on the list to dig into. I'm sure you can see that I've been slowly hopping from one slot to the next
Agree on AC and Alchemist21.

Your posting in here, kind of lowkey reminds me of Mewtaph in SC 1 for some reason.
This is a very towny take.
Urap2 is a lot more present than Mewtaph was tho tbf
Yep, Bono’s posts are also a lot easier to understand as well.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:03 am

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In post 801, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 798, Shoshin the worst wrote:because Nancy mislynched scum
Nancy, let's MISLYNCH scum!

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:04 am

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In post 802, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 796, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 607, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 600, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 592, Shoshin the worst wrote:This is STW. There's no reason you can't talk to TW through this hydra and you're still tunnelling our signing thing.
you're not one person, you just have aligned reads. you can't play as one person while referencing different heads like they're different as you have been.

there is a reason. the reason is it's confusing. listen to the other players in the game.
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I'm making the point that casually shading it as "scummy" is nonsense.
Anything directed at TW will be answered the same as if he were a solo slot.
Don't understand what's confusing about this.
How is AC shading this as “scummy”?

All they’re doing is reiterating what everyone has been thinking the entire game, which is that your hydra dynamics are confusing af.
AC didn't shade it as scummy - we didn't use pronouns but we were referring to URAP2 shading it as scummy, not AC.
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:09 am

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In post 821, Michael Scott wrote:Need to check if she used that phrase in SCM1 but not in her towngames. :P

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I don’t care about anything eise, other than mislynching scum. :lol:
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:16 am

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In post 70, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 38, NicoRobin wrote:I am in this game.
I believe you.
In post 39, NicoRobin wrote:Why again? I wanted to replace later. Instead I got shangaied into this.
“Why again “ what?

Unhappy about something?
In post 432, NicoRobin wrote:Baa, baa, black shiiiipppp
In post 788, Michael Scott wrote:I'm feeling less confident on my URAP2 read right now, I'm up for a wagon on Nicorobin. It does look like unhappiness with her role PM, and the "meta" townleans there I find stupid -- more like made-up reasons not to vote there, so I think it's a good wagon.

VOTE: Nicorobin


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In post 826, Varsoon wrote:@Mephisto: No, mod didn't tell me why the kill failed, just that it did. I made double sure that it wasn't just because of flavor of submission, too. :/

VOTE: Nico

I'm fine going down this rabbit hole.
Nico, if you're town in a game, you need to produce content in order to be accurately read.

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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:51 am

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Many posts incoming - apologies in advance...
In post 469, Varsoon wrote:For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.

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I think I have played with you once (Overkill) and you day vigged me so you are liable to fake gambit thingys. Applying BoP I don't think you are someone who unilaterally decides to lynch someone without the usual intent/claim etc process. I could be wrong but I don't think I am...


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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:53 am

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In post 839, ProFlavor wrote:Many posts incoming - apologies in advance...
In post 469, Varsoon wrote:For people who thought my triple-vote-hammer was fake; why did you stay silent about it?
I'm curious.

-V
I think I have played with you once (Overkill) and you day vigged me so you are liable to fake gambit thingys. Applying BoP I don't think you are someone who unilaterally decides to lynch someone without the usual intent/claim etc process. I could be wrong but I don't think I am...


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That doesn't actually explain the reason for ignoring you - if I reacted, I'd probably give away that I thought you were messing about, therefore we wouldn't get the right reaction so I just stayed out the way (I did see it but not had much time to post this week... hence this incoming spam !)

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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:00 am

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In post 539, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 381, Varsoon wrote:
In post 367, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Game integrity is also compromised by shitty reads, so there’s that too,
Shitty reads are an inherent part of mafia. Players swapping at the table in long-form play is not a design element of the game.

Anyway.

I heard that the lurk-meta on Nico indicates scum there but I don't really know if that's true or not.
Wow where did you hear this?
I played a game with Nico where Nico insisted lurk meta was town indicative but then Nico lurked and flipped scum :@
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:08 am

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In post 559, Varsoon wrote:Shooting you confirms me as town.
hate when people say stuff like this.... tell me why because I'm thick

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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:12 am

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In post 599, u r a person 2 wrote:ProFlavor's game is remarkably light. They are scum reading one person for lurking, me for voting a lurker, and T&L because they always town read them early, as far as I can recall.They also have a bunch of naked town reads. Currently trying to engage that slot, but I don't have any reason to town read them
interestingly phrased, are you saying you don't town read therefore it's null or are you saying you don't town read me therefore you scum read ?
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:16 am

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In post 674, Shoshin the worst wrote:#stillalive
#stilltown
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:18 am

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In post 686, Krazy wrote:
In post 680, Varsoon wrote:@MOD: If someone has a hypothetical day-vigilante role with flavor tied to the ability name, would you, as a mod, accept the action if the user had just written Day Vig: Playername
That would depend on the range of acceptable parameters I established with the player in the role PM, and if in doubt I would clarify the issue by PM.
which means any real day vig would not need to ask this question
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 705, Varsoon wrote:Literally no one has ever blacklisted me.

-V
to be fair when I blacklist people I don't tell them, I just don't join games they are in - like I already saw a post from nancy about how blacklists should be banned and I fully agree - however, if I think someone is a numpty who cant behave I will avoid them and because I'm old and boring I just keep it to myself.

not directed at you as I'm not blacklisting you but I just wanted to add my comments on this as it's like a really easy problem to solve - be civil and if you cant shut up and don't play :lol:
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:27 am

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In post 726, Almost Chara wrote:@TWS: Could you also calm down a bit? Let's try to figure things out
mechanically
. Between you and Varsoon I'd say he's townier than you, but I could see you both being Town. Chara probably sees it the other way around, but I'm sure I can convince them this is Varsoon's Town game.

Som anyway.. do you have any knowledge of Starcraft?
so far I'm reading it like Varsoon is trying to manufacturer the fact that he is the declared town aligned person and inventing that he is the vig...

but saying that, if that's the case, Krazy wouldn't give it away with the way he responded to Varsoon so idk...


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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 727, u r a person 2 wrote:I sincerely doubt that the mod would be so... trolly

but in starcraft 1 there is a high ground advantage mechanic

where units firing up hill have a roughly 50% chance to miss

and stw is above you in the player list ;P
interesting that Varsoon is actually bottom and ground have some advantage (taking your word for that bit idk anything about star craft)

although less interesting the list was randomised - was theorising that Varsoon has power so was put at the most difficult spot if bottom is somehow bad - not relevant though.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:32 am

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In post 751, Almost Chara wrote:@Michael Scott: You answered your own question. Any experienced player wouldn't claim Vig knowing there IS a Vig that would shoot them, except if they were @L-1 maybe (and it still would have been a bad move), and Varsoon wasn't even under pressure.
This is a good point - I think the only caveat to that is you'd be gambling on getting protection somehow so :|

I think however Varsoon should day vig someone today.
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