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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 am

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In post 195, northsidegal wrote:brassherald you have no idea how unbelievably anti-town that intent was from you in a game that is essentially white flag masons.
What makes you think it's white flag masons?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:14 am

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well, i guess "white flag masons" is the wrong term, but that's just the way that i know how to say "a setup in which there are masons and town loses when all of the masons are dead"

which as far as i was aware, was this setup, with the crewmen being the masons.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:17 am

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In post 201, northsidegal wrote:well, i guess "white flag masons" is the wrong term, but that's just the way that i know how to say "a setup in which there are masons and town loses when all of the masons are dead"

which as far as i was aware, was this setup, with the crewmen being the masons.
Okay, thanks for clarification, and I still don't see how it was anti-town, but I do want to drop this line of discussion for reasons.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:04 pm

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Fine.
UNVOTE: Bambi Jay
I'm going to trust NSG, because her meta reads are usually right, but I'm still FoSing Jay because this is like the easiest behavior to fake - ever.
VOTE: TonyMontana
I don't like your posting. Seems fluffy and useless.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:39 pm

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In post 189, Allomancer wrote:
In post 153, Bambi Jay wrote:You assume I'm playing Mafia, when in reality I'm playing connect 4.

You assume my actions mean something day 1.

You assume I even read your post just now.
In post 158, Bambi Jay wrote:The difference between Allomancer and me is that im honest in not wanting to do shit for town. He tries to not do stuff but make it look like he's working.

I'm not scum, just a bored terrorist with nothing to lose.
Excuse me, what the fuck? The point of playing Mafia is to actually, ya know, play Mafia. You can't just claim whoever hammers is scum and be done with it. Even if you are town-aligned, you are completely useless to the town if you don't even intend to
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to help. While yes, there probably is some scum on your wagon, the wagon built so quickly because you appear to not even be trying, and if you're town, that's not helping your wincon.
Who do you think are the scum on the wagon?
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:42 pm

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NSG I believe you but do you recall what game you mislynched Jay? And do you have any other games with Jay? Scum or town, either would be helpful.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:50 pm

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it was open 714. yes, i do – why do you ask?
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:04 pm

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Votecount 1.05:

Robert2424: 1 (Allomancer)
TheGoldenParadox: 1 (Bambi Jay)
Amor: 1 (Northsidegal)
TonyMontana: 3 (Brassherald, Robert2424, TheGoldenParadox)
Bambi Jay: 4 (TonyMontana, Amor, Darth Vader, RCEnigma) L-2


Not Voting:

Leading Wagons are in bold.

With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

The following players have yet to post and will be prodded if they do not post before the next votecount:

TonyMontana has been prodded. He will be forcibly replaced if she does not post within 24 hours of this post.

Day 1 ends on Wednesday, January 23rd at 6:00 PM PST, or 14 days, 22 hours and 56 minutes from this post.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:46 pm

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In post 206, northsidegal wrote:it was open 714. yes, i do – why do you ask?
He trying to find patterns, if he acts and posts certain ways when he's scum vs. when he's town.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:46 pm

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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:32 pm

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In post 193, northsidegal wrote:and let's flip this around: what is the case for bambi being scum? that she's "not playing the game"?
Refusal to play the game is a case, yeah. I see your point about him having fun or not, but I don't think even scum!him would have fun being wagoned and near lynched.

I wasn't too worried about the wagon since it was more of a threat to make Jay play the game, and Brass wouldn't ITH without everyone else chiming first. Something he said which I prolly shouldn't discuss makes me believe he's town, however.

If Jay's town I think TGP's vote there is most suspect.

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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:47 pm

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In post 210, Darth Vader wrote:I wasn't too worried about the wagon since it was more of a threat to make Jay play the game, and Brass wouldn't ITH without everyone else chiming first. Something he said which I prolly shouldn't discuss makes me believe he's town, however.
no, i definitely agree that a hammer was realistically unlikely, it just alarmed me in the first place that a wagon was at l-1 that i disagreed with when i didn't even really understand the reasoning there.
If Jay's town I think TGP's vote there is most suspect.
i think i might agree.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 am

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In post 162, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: Bambi Jay
L-1. Bambi please try to read the game and examine.

If this slot is scum, great. If it's not, it's a policy lynch that really needs to happen. Bad posts, bad reactions, terrible for town if town. This slot needs to be lynched.
By the way, I was busy not pointing this out to try to get Bambi to engage in the game, but I've seen TGP make this sort of post before. It's very much reminiscent of a post where he made big bold letters on an L-1 in a newbie game a while back.

Guess what faction he was with there?

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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:30 am

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So....that happened UNVOTE:

I'll read through that game in a bit, unless that's the lovers game in which case I've been through Bambi's iso.

Besides that a few things, I don't agree with Bambi clearing slots that didn't vote. If there are only 2 scum it's very likely they will vote one on one off on wagons that could end in a lynch. I think Bambi's could have so I also don't agree with slots saying a lynch was unlikely.

This may be a playstyle thing but don't join a wagon for the sake of it. I voted Bambi because I intended to lynch there. This voting for pressure thing always rubs me the wrong way.

Still feel Allo is a good lynch, it may not be Allo/Bambi but Allo's poor grasp on the game seems like lost scum to me.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:51 am

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In post 212, brassherald wrote:
In post 162, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: Bambi Jay
L-1. Bambi please try to read the game and examine.

If this slot is scum, great. If it's not, it's a policy lynch that really needs to happen. Bad posts, bad reactions, terrible for town if town. This slot needs to be lynched.
By the way, I was busy not pointing this out to try to get Bambi to engage in the game, but I've seen TGP make this sort of post before. It's very much reminiscent of a post where he made big bold letters on an L-1 in a newbie game a while back.

Guess what faction he was with there?

VOTE: thegoldenparadox
So wait... you're voting me because I clearly showed an L-1 AFTER you asked how many votes there were on Bambi, and that's somehow reminiscent of a post I made a year ago in a newbie game
What the ....?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 am

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In post 213, RCEnigma wrote:So....that happened UNVOTE:

I'll read through that game in a bit, unless that's the lovers game in which case I've been through Bambi's iso.

Besides that a few things, I don't agree with Bambi clearing slots that didn't vote. If there are only 2 scum it's very likely they will vote one on one off on wagons that could end in a lynch. I think Bambi's could have so I also don't agree with slots saying a lynch was unlikely.

This may be a playstyle thing but don't join a wagon for the sake of it. I voted Bambi because I intended to lynch there. This voting for pressure thing always rubs me the wrong way.

Still feel Allo is a good lynch, it may not be Allo/Bambi but Allo's poor grasp on the game seems like lost scum to me.
Voting for pressure is a great way to get people engaged in the game
I could as easily see Allo as lost town. Scum would have buddies to guide them.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 am

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It's the absurd big font that you do.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:58 am

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I'd like to hear from NSG on Amor and Allomancer on Robert some more.

If you'd please expand on these vanity wagons, that would be great.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:12 am

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Brass, if you thought that TGP's vote to put Bambi at L-1 was scummy, did you actually not intend to hammer? Or do you think this was bussing?
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:19 am

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In post 218, Amor wrote:Brass, if you thought that TGP's vote to put Bambi at L-1 was scummy, did you actually not intend to hammer? Or do you think this was bussing?
I was not actually intending to hammer at the time, I was hoping it would motivate Bambi to engage more.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:31 am

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It more motivated me to growl and refuse you while waiting for someone I found more reasonable to join, which is why I stalled and am currently shutting up to let the proper conclusion be reached.

You motivated me more to spite you, honestly.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:47 am

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In post 220, Bambi Jay wrote:It more motivated me to growl and refuse you while waiting for someone I found more reasonable to join, which is why I stalled and am currently shutting up to let the proper conclusion be reached.

You motivated me more to spite you, honestly.
Good on you, I guess?

Like, I don't really care if you spite me for trying to get you to participate in the game you signed up to play. I'm not losing sleep over this.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:51 am

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That was more of a dig at your horrible play of claiming intent so damn early. Guess you really can't understand a word coming out of my mouth anyway, huh?
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:53 am

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In post 222, Bambi Jay wrote:That was more of a dig at your horrible play of claiming intent so damn early. Guess you really can't understand a word coming out of my mouth anyway, huh?
I'd like to unsubscribe from the service of your evaluating the quality of my play, please.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:00 am

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Too bad, you'll get more when I'm off work.
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