Time to End the Blacklist Insanity!

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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:23 am

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so who is blacklisting you?
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Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:29 am

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I mean I get your frustration with them because they are annoying but the thing you should recognize is that you are being excluded from games that you don't want to be in to begin with.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:41 am

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like look at it from this perspective if you are joining a game run by a mod who is enforcing a bad blacklist.
1) they have poor judgement.
2) the person you will be playing with is not someone you want to really play with.

you are winning out by being rejected by a bad mod and not playing with a unpleasant person.

and if you have a legitimate blacklist (rare) and the mod doesn't enforce, you should leave because you don't want to be playing with the person to begin with or the mod doesn't care about your enjoyment and can't see a time bomb potential unless you point it out and if they ignore then again poor judgement.

Like I have been on every side of the blacklist portion. I think more on the receiving end for a long time, but yeah. The best attitude with it is realization that some games are not worth playing and some mods/players are not ones who you want to be in their games anyway.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 5, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3, Firebringer wrote:I mean I get your frustration with them because they are annoying but the thing you should recognize is that you are being excluded from games that you don't want to be in to begin with.
I am not being excluded from anything, precisely because I don’t subscribe to a rogue practice, that isn’t endorsed according to site rules.

My point was differentiating between a mod blacklisting a player, which actually IS allowed and players trying to stop other players, from joining games, they DON’T mod.

There aren’t any game mods to my knowledge, who have blacklisted me, the only blacklist that is actually recognized as valid on this site. The other kind is about as real as Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy but some unfortunate individuals are unfairly gaslighted and manipulated into thinking it’s real, when it isn’t. That’s my whole point. Hence, the “insanity” portion of the title.
I mean it is allowed and a direct extension of the mod discretion.
so you arguing it is some outside force that can't exist is just odd to me.

do you want a rules change that states that players can't tell a mod who they don't want in or out of the game?
cause where is the line there? if they state "i am not telling you who to have in this game but i am not playing with x" is that not pushing the mod to do something?

if multiple people do this same thing is that okay?
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:09 am

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I would be willing to intervene and fight all my playerlist.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #15 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:09 am

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especially u rc, you smell.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:14 am

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In post 11, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I obviously don’t think that’s cool but I’m more referring to some players telling other players, that they are bannned from signing up for games, that they are in and they actually lack the awareness of how gross and ethically unpalatable that is, so they aggressively either threaten or attempt to guilttrip other players from participating in games they very much would love to be a part of.
yeah that's bad. seen it too often, I don't think I have ever told someone they are banned from my games but have said something to effect of "don't sign up for games with me again" which isn't very charismatic.

but the answer to that is to go, "okay, you do you".

let the mods figure it out.

when someone is being unreasonable the best place to be is the reasonable the one.
they have the problem, you don't. You aren't causing issues or escalating, as soon as you start escalating because someone started with saying you are banned is now when they have ammo to prove a case against you.

Just like when someone calls you scum the best defense isn't "NO I AM NOT AND HOW DARE YOU!", answering a blacklist should be met with "Cool, anything else?"
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #20 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:17 am

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okay when r u gonna change ur avi, I cant get used to warren
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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