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Post Post #925  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:59 pm

Can I be a part of this viral chorus?
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Post Post #926  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:06 pm

In post 924, Varsoon wrote:I was gonna keep it up all game, you bunch of villainous cowards.

-V

You're a vehement chap indeed. I'll try to follow your pace then.

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Post Post #927  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:54 pm

In post 829, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Would this have something to do with the whole ordering and positioning mechanics, maybe?


That's exactly what I had in mind.

At first I thought we were being trolled by our role PM. What exactly is the benefit of having a role that can move up and down the players list? That's why I said we have a mega strong role. :lol:

Then I thought maybe some actions will be targeting "numbers" rather than players? Loke "shoot player #4" or "investigate player #11", but that didn't make much sense too.

Then it hit me when people brought up land and air units and I started thinking of the game I play, and having also played other PC games such as Dune, Red Alert, Civilization, European Wars .. etc.. and I figured special units have special effects and some have a definite range and stuff, so that's when I started thinking our role actually may have some mechanical effect (like if someone can only kill/investigate/protect the adjacent slots and we end up placing ourselves in between the source and the target?), and when Varsoon insisted it was a real Vig shot that failed on STW I voiced out the idea I had been contemplating on.

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Post Post #928  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:38 pm

In post 868, u r a person 2 wrote:7. pinturucchio town


While I'm not ready to go all-in on pintu, this is the only read on your list I need to request an explanation for. Thank you.

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Post Post #929  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:50 pm

In post 888, ProFlavor wrote:The last page where a load of people (inc me) have all come out and said “not really got any scum reads” makes me consider the scenario = there is a good scum player amongst the seemingly town bunch and scum are happy if we go Koki/Nico

Perhaps - could the redirect to a lurk lynch be a counter wagon to the heat on STW? In terms of no real counter wagon formed away from STW therefore scum are trying to get town to policy lynch a lurker?


Food for thought


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Oh, God! This is where profii upgrades from good.town.play to too.convoluted.thoughts.he.will.admit.were.over.the.top.post-game. :lol:
(I saw that first hand most recently) :lol:

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Post Post #930  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:55 pm

@profii:

Like, I don't want to out my full read list (as in the order/strength of each TR from top to bottom) for a reason, but I can see what you're saying being the case with 2 slots.

That said I have a solid Town core of 5 slots, so scum are going to have to remove us early to prevent the town coordination we are going to lead. :P

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Post Post #931  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:09 pm

@pintu: Game aside, you know I love you like a brother, right? It was never my intention to add pressure on you IRL. If that happened accidentally, then I sincerely apologize.

Back to the game: I didn't call you out "for not having SRs" per se. That would be over-simplifying it. I called you out because your posts are mostly hollow and you have no reads.

If you had given me some TOWN reads with some sort of reasoning I would not have been too suspicious (and you did now in #889, so I think I'm feeling a bit better about you).

The thing is you're one of the most underestimated skillful players I know of. People don' pay much attention to you when I know for a fact you are most capable as either alignment, so when people pass you by and dismiss you just because you appear to be lurking or "innocently" being low effort I have to be a bit wary.

Anyway, top 3 lynch candidates for me are: Nico/Koki/Mewtaph. You know Chara has a weak town lean still on Nico (I've posted something in the PT that may or may not change their mind), and Mewtaph is actually a true null (which is a bit scummy because he usually does stuff, and I have been at the receiving end of his fury as TvT before).

So, Koki is a fine vote by me for now.

Oh, and also much respect to UR2 for redeeming himself in my eyes. I would be first to acknowledge I'm stubborn and it's hard to change my mind on someone I SR early on (unless there was a mechanical reason to change that read), so UR2 managing to do just that without a mechanical reason is impressive.

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Post Post #932  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:10 pm

who is mewtaph?
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Post Post #933  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:16 pm

VOTE: Mewtaph

I agree, who is he? Some vacant chasm in the playerlist, gotta be. Dude was fairly non-extant in the first game, too.


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Post Post #934  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:20 pm

Continuing the march through the thread. FYI brass is in a bad mood from work and won’t be posting much rn.
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Post Post #935  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:24 pm

In post 420, u r a person 2 wrote:TW, you asked me to analyze a very thin iso, and then a very thin post. I know that you and I both think there is value in taking close looks at otherwise inconsequential posts, and I gave you a full faith effort for precisely that reason. It's pretty sneaky to then turn around and read my response to that thought experiment as if I claimed those thoughts were engraved on stone slabs from god.

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I voted him over those others because I think I can read Pintu, so him moreso than those others I want to play.

I'm still voting him because I'm working through both my read of his big catchup and how I want to approach the slot.

Damn can a person get some space to play

I'm not asking for much time. I'll be on it this afternoon here. let it breathe

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Post Post #936  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:26 pm

In post 63, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21


Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?

In post 253, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 142, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 137, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Varsoon posted 2 links, one to Starcraft 1, where you encouraged everyone multiple times to “stretch their mind” and the second, to TAZ, where you didn’t do that even once.

This is sound.

My vote's on there in spirit as well.

Also Alchemist feels town.
UNVOTE:

~Jimothy

Okay, so you wanted to vote them in spirit but you couldn't. Did you have any other leads outside of Shoshin the worst that you would've liked to pursue at the time of making this post or was that the only slot you received scum vibes up to ?


+1

In post 765, Mewtaph wrote:Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?


What answer were you expecting here?

In post 772, Mewtaph wrote:I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.


I didn't like the initial voting on UP2 when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting Michael Scott to explain why he thought UP2's posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on Nico. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like "where's the scum at"?

:/ I get my vote on Kokichi contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?
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Post Post #937  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:29 pm

I'm tempted to play overtly scummy solely to get scumreads going, and worthwhile interactions.

Vars, a lot of people say Mephist, Alchemist, and T&L are town, but they're low confidence reads for me.

What are your reads there?
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Post Post #938  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:29 pm

In post 435, u r a person 2 wrote:I have no idea which one of you made the last two posts

I’d assume it’s A50
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Post Post #939  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:32 pm

In post 439, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 253, Mewtaph wrote:it would've been somewhat entertaining if you "breadcrumbed" that you were an SK -ahem- I mean town vigilante.


That's nothing compared to the MIGHTY POWERS we have here. We are a WMD (Weapon of Mass Destruction for those unfamiliar with the abbreviation), Once we detonate EVERYONE dies (including the mod). :P

Feels on point flavorwide tbh
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Post Post #940  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:36 pm

In post 933, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Mewtaph

I agree, who is he? Some vacant chasm in the playerlist, gotta be. Dude was fairly non-extant in the first game, too.


-V


Where did that STW scumread go?

And why did you vig them when I had a townread there? >:c

Part of the "null"-feels I think that's gone on in this thread, is because there's multiple pages of just pointless back-and-forths that disregard the playerlist.

There's not many in the game that have interacted with more than a select few people.
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Post Post #941  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:38 pm

In post 449, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:One of the dumbest mistakes scum makes in any game is pushing me. I always wind up making them regret it, one way or another. :twisted:

Was this why you flipped out when I suspected you in Excalibur?
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Post Post #942  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:40 pm

In post 903, pinturicchio wrote:vc as vote conspiracy?


In post 905, Varsoon wrote:Victory Cream

-V


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Post Post #943  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:41 pm

@Pint

ISOing you, there's two distinctions in our reads.

Why are you paranoid about Almost Chara?

And I'm not feeling the argument you had for UP2.
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Post Post #944  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:43 pm

:roll: I'm going to feel like some dumb, vanilla, passive ho if I'm asking so many questions with none posed to me.
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Post Post #945  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:43 pm

In post 909, u r a person 2 wrote:this thread direction has me very concerned


I can see this in various colours

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Post Post #946  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:45 pm

@Taly: I don't know why people are townreading Mewtaph--might have to do with their play in Starcraft 1. I'm not townreading them.
Alchemist21 is town but needs to commit more of that good content.
T&L's lean town for me but I have my suspicions about the slot and I'm not high confidence either way.
STW absolutely should be lynched at the end of the day if we can't come to some conclusion--I still heavily scumread the slot.
Right now, though, I'm not 'tunneling out' and I'm trying to keep from bombarding the thread with my posts/vanity crap there since it's not going to help us solve anything atm.

What are your thoughts on Mewtaph and, in general, what do you think should be done in this kind of a game (lurker slots a problem but also current wagons/attention d1)?

-V

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Post Post #947  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:48 pm

In post 911, u r a person 2 wrote:we've devolved into vapid conversation


Why did you feel the need to say that? I am very certain it was virtually clear.

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Post Post #948  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:50 pm

In post 946, Varsoon wrote:What are your thoughts on Mewtaph and, in general, what do you think should be done in this kind of a game (lurker slots a problem but also current wagons/attention d1)?


Everyone should actively engage with the people they've least engaged with.

That makes content less predictable and runs the game more smoothly without pages of the same shit going on.

I need more of Mewtaph for a confident read - hence my post toward them, but their posts did feel inclined to push the game forward. I'd like to know why they haven't contributed more, if it's RL stuff or just uncertainty.
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Post Post #949  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:51 pm

In post 914, Varsoon wrote:Well you're not getting any Varsoon Credit for keeping this nonsense going

-V


Varsoon Credit is a vague concept to me. Elaborate?

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