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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:55 pm

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Hello.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 37, rb wrote:im going to bed

when i wake up joges should be lynched
I hope you're disappointed when you wake up.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:48 pm

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In post 89, or wrote:saudade can be town for now too
I would like you to town read me as well, thank you.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 92, rb wrote:if im lynched, dont lynch thespio

lynch or/joges/TTTT

thx 4 asking
You're L3, bit dramatic.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:03 pm

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Do you really feel like you're in danger of being lynched?
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Post Post #113 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:36 am

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Is that L1 now?
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Post Post #137 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:46 am

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VOTE: bittersweet

I'll take TTTT's word on it.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:47 am

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@TTTT you know you're voting me and not Bittersweet, right?
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Post Post #173 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:30 pm

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I appreciate the attention, however, I'm gonna have to ask you to not consider me for a lynch today. Thank you.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #9) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:02 am

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VOTE: stan

That's the first time Flavor has unvoted since their unvote of an RVS vote. I don't like the picture you wanted to paint here based on one instance. You didn't word it "It was really easy for you to unvote right now." You said:
stan1ey wrote:Its very easy to persuade you to unvote
Which makes it sound like a thing that has been happening all game.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #10) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:15 pm

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I don't flip scum this game.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:52 am

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I will be around the next few days for this game. Probably catch up later tonight.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:31 pm

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What's POE stand for on this site? I always have seen it as POI (Person of Interest), but POE?
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Post Post #381 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:14 pm

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Thanks.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:56 pm

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In post 441, TTTT wrote:@Ruby - how confident are you?
Hello, yes I'm trying to get caught up, I'm well far behind.

I do not like posts about confidence on D1. How confident can anyone who is town be? And by asking this, you make me feel you're town reading them, so how is asking them if they're confident when they have absolutely no info to go off of at all a good thing.
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Post Post #533 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 446, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 438, Slaxx wrote:Humor me and help me lynch Stan1ey, you should have no problem with that yes?
he's in my poe but i'm not really feeling it and i'm not compromising if it's not absolutely necessary
In post 441, TTTT wrote:@Ruby - how confident are you?
very
Ugh, really? Find a better way to explain it. It's not confidence.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:02 pm

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In post 451, Flavor Leaf wrote:Slaxx, you’re coming off more like scum pushing townies flaws moreso than town calling out potential scum.

Not saying that’s what it is, but that’s what’s coming off.
This is the second post now that's close to another post, that I also agree is a strong case of fence sitting.

Which is weird because I found Flavor to be very arrogant when I first read them. So them fence sitting seems weird.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 535, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 532, joges wrote:I do not like posts about confidence on D1. How confident can anyone who is town be? And by asking this, you make me feel you're town reading them, so how is asking them if they're confident when they have absolutely no info to go off of at all a good thing.
i will never ever agree with anyone who says that day 1s are useless or that you can't catch anything on d1
D1s are NOT useless. BUT saying you're confident on D1 is not sensible. I scum read confidence on D1 because they're usually the only people in place to not be paranoid about anyone.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:13 pm

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I like Slaxx and Ruby as town. I'm still fine with my Stan vote, and would settle for Flavor. Very interesting game with all these replace outs.

@Mod, can we get any extension on D1 with so many people replacing in?
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Post Post #546 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 541, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 539, Slaxx wrote:I guess. I read it more as making someone commit to a read like TTTT did with you pre-flip.
what
In post 540, joges wrote:D1s are NOT useless. BUT saying you're confident on D1 is not sensible. I scum read confidence on D1 because they're usually the only people in place to not be paranoid about anyone.
i am confident on day one when i have reasons that warrant confidence

this is one of those scenarios.
What does confident mean to you though, are you suggesting you "know 100%" or are you suggesting "you feel strongly"? Because, like to me I'm not confident until I know 100%, 1%-99% is a gut feeling/"I could see this being this way", perhaps I'm just making a big deal about something based on how I define it, but you define it different.

My original complaint though, is not someone saying they're confident, but rather asking someone on D1 if they are. Because it feels like a trap question.

Asking someone "Are you confident?" in this game shows there's a level of trust, which I don't have with any of you, and very likely will not have with any of you, D1.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:20 pm

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In post 544, Ruby Red wrote:why do you townread slaxx
In post 418, Slaxx wrote:Okay... Creature/Ruby/Or/Jibril town
Mumble TTT maybe town
Suadade Bittersweet need more pressure
Stan1ey scum

Whoever I missed is null
Because I'm town, and scum wouldn't forget a town player like this. They'd be sure to come up with something.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 550, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 548, joges wrote:Because I'm town, and scum wouldn't forget a town player like this. They'd be sure to come up with something.
no, i;m sorry. you're just wrong. this isn't a reason to townread him.
I can have whatever reason I want to town read someone.

From my point of view, I see this as something I wouldn't do as scum, and would do as town. So he gets my town read.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:26 pm

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In post 552, Ruby Red wrote:like you need more than that because i have cased this guy more than i've ever cased anyone before ever and this really small shit just does not outweigh everything i laid out
Maybe you're right about your case and I'm wrong? I don't know. But I would find it hard to lynch him today because of that post. It stands out to me specifically because I'm the one he forgot, and therefore I get to have my opinion about it. I don't expect people to share it, or see the logic to it because it's completely from my point of view.
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Post Post #566 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 562, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 559, joges wrote:
In post 552, Ruby Red wrote:like you need more than that because i have cased this guy more than i've ever cased anyone before ever and this really small shit just does not outweigh everything i laid out
Maybe you're right about your case and I'm wrong? I don't know. But I would find it hard to lynch him today because of that post. It stands out to me specifically because I'm the one he forgot, and therefore I get to have my opinion about it. I don't expect people to share it, or see the logic to it because it's completely from my point of view.
you're falling into the classic trap of basing your reads too much off of yourself and not taking an objective standpoint

i think it's a very town thing to do but i also think it's a pretty big mistake that people fall into and something that pretty often leads to them getting pocketed (not that slaxx was deliberately trying to pocket you with that post)
In post 561, Slaxx wrote:@Ruby, was it not implied in "Wolves don't do that"
no
I hope, if I'm around for it, that my D1 reads will differ from my D2 and so on. On D1 I like to find reasons not to lynch someone and reasons to lynch someone. D1 I take things a lot more personal, like you calling me stupid if I wasn't already feeling good about wanting you around D2 probably would have got you a scum read for the day because I would feel like I can't see a future working with you.

I really don't like going in to "I think they're town/scum" (on D1) personally, but do it for the sake of having this conversation every game. In D1 no one has made any decisions that effect the game until someone hammers. Then there's people who decided to lynch and didn't. That's when people being town and scum can truly begin in my opinion.

I look at it like, you can't solve a puzzle without the first clue. The first clue, in my opinion, is the first lynch.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:36 pm

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In post 567, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 565, Slaxx wrote:By the way Ruby, the shit you listed about not asking you for your reasoning or trying to sort your push...the stuff you thought would be townie for Thespio...I did all that before you listed it.
you're a different player than thespio and i would never read the two of you the same way.

like, the reasons i townread mumble for example would just not apply to anyone else.
And I don't freaking get why you can't maybe wrap your head around the fact that the slot was just disinterested.
of course i considered that. the overwhelming likelihood was that he was scum moreso than bored.
In post 562, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 559, joges wrote:
In post 552, Ruby Red wrote:like you need more than that because i have cased this guy more than i've ever cased anyone before ever and this really small shit just does not outweigh everything i laid out
Maybe you're right about your case and I'm wrong? I don't know. But I would find it hard to lynch him today because of that post. It stands out to me specifically because I'm the one he forgot, and therefore I get to have my opinion about it. I don't expect people to share it, or see the logic to it because it's completely from my point of view.
you're falling into the classic trap of basing your reads too much off of yourself and not taking an objective standpoint

i think it's a very town thing to do but i also think it's a pretty big mistake that people fall into and something that pretty often leads to them getting pocketed (not that slaxx was deliberately trying to pocket you with that post)
In post 561, Slaxx wrote:@Ruby, was it not implied in "Wolves don't do that"
no
Aren't you doing exactly what you're scolding me for, then?
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Post Post #576 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:44 pm

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In post 571, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 568, joges wrote:Aren't you doing exactly what you're scolding me for, then?
elaborate? i have no idea what you're getting at with just those two quotes there.
like, the reasons i townread mumble for example would just not apply to anyone else.
you're falling into the classic trap of basing your reads too much off of yourself and not taking an objective standpoint
This specifically, but let's not cloud the game up, I don't think it matters, I just felt it was hypocritical. Like you saying it's okay for you to townread someone for your personal reasons but not for someone else to do the same.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:47 pm

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I'm off for the night, but I'm off work tomorrow so we can all talk more then.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:52 pm

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In post 581, Ruby Red wrote:
In post 576, joges wrote:This specifically, but let's not cloud the game up, I don't think it matters, I just felt it was hypocritical. Like you saying it's okay for you to townread someone for your personal reasons but not for someone else to do the same.
You're misunderstanding me. Of course I'm not saying that you can't read someone based on "personal reasons". I have no idea how
else
anyone would read someone.

What I'm saying is a bad reason is reading people based
specifically on how they interact with your slot
: that is, if i were to say "Mumble is town because he townreads me" or something similar. My townread on mumble has nothing to do with me specifically: it's mostly objective. Like, if I weren't actually a player in the game and I were just spectating, I would still have the read because it doesn't depend on anything that relates specifically to me.
In post 578, Slaxx wrote:Oh god it might just be better to lynch me today

I don't like the company I'm in anymore.
sorry if i'm making this hell
I understand you now.

This is my last post for the night, but what is your opinion of the replace outs? Seems like a lot to me, but I've been gone a long time, so maybe it's more common now.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:53 pm

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In post 586, Slaxx wrote:Stan's ISO is so scummy but the three people that joined the wagon were FL, Joges, and Jibril and I had a townread on the jibril slot but the blatant reluctance to give a reason is ew. I don't like that, any of that.
You joined my wagon on Stan.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:29 am

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Hey, Alonzo. Are you town?
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Post Post #729 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:06 am

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I don't see anything wrong with your current vote, Or. Have a fun trip.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #31) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:30 am

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In post 894, Alonzo wrote:
In post 885, Flavor Leaf wrote:Or, joges, Alonzo, mumble. There’s 1 or 2 scum in there.
Town Flavour never votes Alonzo here tho...
Are you saying Flavour is town since they didn't vote for you then?
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Post Post #897 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:46 am

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In post 896, Alonzo wrote:
In post 895, joges wrote:
In post 894, Alonzo wrote:
In post 885, Flavor Leaf wrote:Or, joges, Alonzo, mumble. There’s 1 or 2 scum in there.
Town Flavour never votes Alonzo here tho...
Are you saying Flavour is town since they didn't vote for you then?
No.
Are you saying it would make no sense for town flavour to list you in those three since they would never vote for you then?
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Post Post #903 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:52 am

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In post 900, Alonzo wrote:What are you saying Joges?

Is Flavour conftown based on the Nippy NK?
No, to be honest I hate Flavour's post about it too.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:39 am

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In post 911, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 903, joges wrote:
In post 900, Alonzo wrote:What are you saying Joges?

Is Flavour conftown based on the Nippy NK?
No, to be honest I hate Flavour's post about it too.
This is probably coming from Scum who was going to use the flippynips wagon to flip on me. He just thought about it incorrectly.

I’ll keep saying it. In no world do I kill FlippyNips as scum here.

The much better play from scumFL would be to kill TTTT and eventually setup a mislynch on flippy, while still defending him on like Day 3.

I want him to be able to play a town game. :lol:
I am conftown too, because I want to be.
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Post Post #930 (isolation #35) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:45 am

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In post 914, Flavor Leaf wrote:Hmm. On one hand, it kinda can seem townie, but that’s why it could be scummy.

It’s also annoying how he talks about himself that way, but didn’t like when I brought it up about me being town for an actual reason, and then I event said don’t actually use that, but just have it there.

I think it’s NAI, at the moment, but in conjunction with more later, it might turn scum AI.
If you want to tell me you're town, that's fine, but don't try to tell me the reason I should believe you are town is because a certain player has died. That's ridiculous. When I see your "LOLOLOLOLOLOL" it comes across as "I need to make this stand out as much as I can so everyone reads it and sees that this person is dead and I wouldn't kill them" It makes no sense, either, that if you were scum that you would let someone town live simply because "I really want them to play a town game" How does that even make sense? When has any scum ever looked at the player base and went:

"okay let's kill town player b" -scum

"NO! They've been scum a lot, and they're town this game, I really want them to play a game." -scum partner

Has anyone ever had this stupid of a conversation in a scum PT?
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Post Post #945 (isolation #36) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:22 pm

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In post 932, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: joges

For the ignorance.

I specifically stated multiple times not to use that to conftown me.
Why even bring it up then? Why bother? WHY POST SOMETHING AND SAY "Listen to me speak, but ignore that post just me live blogging in thread"?

What does town Flavor Leaf have to gain by posting something like that for any of us to read if we're not supposed to care about it?
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #37) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:29 pm

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VOTE: Alonzo

Hello, Alonzo.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #38) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 1059, Alonzo wrote:Do I know you ?!
I don't believe so. Do you know me?
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:43 am

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In post 1062, or wrote:
In post 1057, joges wrote:VOTE: Alonzo

Hello, Alonzo.
ehy joges?
ehy or?
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:16 pm

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In post 1099, Weiss Schnee wrote:Okay well let's do the thing

VOTE: Alonzo
I'm cool with this.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:50 pm

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I work the next two days, and then I'm off Tue Wed Thu.. Deadline is Thu and I'll be on a lot more during my days off. In the meantime, my wagon on Alonzo has room for others. Join it, we have cake.
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:45 pm

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I feel like everyone is posting hoping something will happen.
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #43) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 1167, Alonzo wrote:I'm gonna break out the reads tomorrow so everyone can stop pulling my chain.

Still voting for Joges tho.
I would be upset, if you were town.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:51 am

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What's everyone's opinion on lynching mumble?
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:33 pm

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Or, why are you attacking Creature for activity when he's been here 6 less days than you and has over twice as many posts?
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:48 am

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In post 1231, or wrote:
In post 1226, joges wrote:Or, why are you attacking Creature for activity when he's been here 6 less days than you and has over twice as many posts?
because i usually post this amount as town (or as scum), but creature is known to have post count as alignment indicative?
So he posts a lot as scum?
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:10 pm

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In post 1249, Alonzo wrote:Joges is my strongest scumlean. The art of pushing without pushing is strong in this one. Still dont recall his reasons for wanting my lynch but I'm sure hes been re enforcing them since his push on me began..
You're not more concerned, perhaps, with the people who followed me when I've given absolutely no reason? I could understand this reason if I was the third, fourth, fifth vote... Maybe... But I'm the first vote on you, and others went along with me. And I provided no reason at all.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #48) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:32 am

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This is the wrong path to take.
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #49) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:59 am

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Creature and Weiss both voted Alonzo with me. I will trust their judgement.

VOTE: Ruby Red
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #50) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 1309, TTTT wrote:^scum
You're wrong.
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #51) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 1352, Alonzo wrote:Hello Joges
Hello
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #52) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:49 am

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I'm not scum, I'm a shitty Vig though. I would say this, N1, if there were to be someone who protected someone, they might have stopped a scum kill, unless scum and I both went after same person. I shot Nips and FL. I crumbed in 543.

I shot both of them because they were off the Slaxx wagon. Nips posted after Slaxx's vengful claim, and I thought maybe it was scum avoiding the wagon. I shot FL because I will always hate any post like they started D2 with and because they weren't on the wagon.

I'm claiming now because I've done a poor job.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #53) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:45 am

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In post 1396, Creature wrote:joges, can you still vig?
Yeah, I can vig every night.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 1502, stan1ey wrote:They might not even hace a roleblocker? Neither you nor joges have been blocked so far right
I guess I could have been blocked N1 if scum also went Nips. But so far both my targets died, so unlikely.
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:50 pm

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In post 1579, or wrote:donde esta joges mis amigos
Busy day at work yesterday, busy day with wife today, finally getting a chance to catch up.

Or and Stan are town to me. If that needs to be said.
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:57 pm

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We should finish claiming today, I feel, before we lynch.
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:31 pm

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In post 1596, Creature wrote:maybe boil down the massclaim to PR/VT?
I would be happy with this and think you're town for the suggestion.
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Post Post #1622 (isolation #58) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:40 pm

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VOTE: alonzo
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Post Post #1793 (isolation #59) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:09 pm

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gg town
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #60) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:10 pm

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I owe Stan a TY. I just listened to that one post and shot Jibril. Sorry I was a bad vig.
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Post Post #1796 (isolation #61) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:38 pm

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Well when you put it like that lol

I never did get invited to the dead thread :(
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #62) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:25 am

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In post 1799, Creature wrote:Redacting PTs is completely crap, just don't talk shit and you should be okay.
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