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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:04 pm

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VOTE: GuiltyLion

Hello again :cool:
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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:30 am

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[vote]Player[/vote]

Alternatively

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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:54 pm

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@GuiltyLion - I'm BulletNLynchproof :)

Speaking of which, is the reasoning for your Jumble vote partially due to experience?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:51 pm

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GL I'm now slightly better at sensing sarcasm :P

Also I'm going to sheep you for now
VOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers[/b]
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:52 pm

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VOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers
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Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:16 am

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Post Post #42 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:52 pm

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In post 29, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 24, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 22, singletonking wrote:@GuiltyLion - I'm BulletNLynchproof :)

Speaking of which, is the reasoning for your Jumble vote partially due to experience?
oh hey!

if it wasn't clear I'm playing up the "perfect scumtell" thing but I do have a very minor real reason for voting him

p-edit: the reason I can't answer the question is because if someone decides to sheep me without knowing what I'm talking about, I am obviously unable to speak for them on why they decided to do that. I do not want to share my reason for voting you at this time. Maybe if you're good you'll get it later, but you're not off to a strong start with these questions
Not a fan of your responses to the question tbh
Why not? I kinda townread it.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:44 pm

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The fact that he has a scumtell, and he appears to be using the developments from it to scumhunt even more. I understand your viewpoint here but completely disagree with it, I see it as a valid town strategy
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Post Post #47 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:37 am

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Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:54 am

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Ugh whatever I'm going to tryhard now

Ceejay I actually have a semi-decent townread on because I appreciate his efforts to scumhunt in , and backing up with reasoning in . However, I'm actually double guessing myself on this read here because I know ceejay isn't usually this towny early game.

GulityLion I'm not actually townreading him as much as I stated but still leans more town than scum for me.

Not_Mafia has only one post but I'm actually slightly sussing him for it, I feel the use of punctuation and capitals is uncharacteristic of him.

Jumble I actually slightly scumread unrelated to GuiltyLion, idk why but pings me, the experience thing just feels off

InfiniteSoda I don't really see anything wrong with him

Suka has 1 naked RVS vote but it puts ceejay at L-2 so I do kinda dislike this

pirate mollie while being one of highest posters (!) has not much in content, but I think this is still NAI for now. Some posts I find awkward but did mirror my thoughts

Gamma Emerald I also have no clue
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Post Post #49 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:59 am

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That... was a lot more inconclusive than I wanted it to be :roll:

Alright, I'll ask some questions to put this game forward:

@Gamma what did you not like about GL's response? And were you referring to his response to me or to Jumble?

@mollie why did you find it important to say that your "hi" was directed at me?

@Ceejay why were you not a fan of Soda's OMGUS as an RVS vote?

@Not_Mafia are you scum?

@Jumble does Soda's experience of Mafia affect your read on him?
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Post Post #51 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:27 am

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Yeah pretty much, and even the saying that we have gotten out of RVS is debatable. I really needed to find something to get the game going

Is there anyone you have a slight scumlean on?
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Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:37 am

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Oh no!
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Post Post #70 (isolation #13) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:51 pm

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In post 54, pirate mollie wrote:see, I knew if I picked a fight with some1 things get interesting.
In post 48, singletonking wrote:Ugh whatever I'm going to tryhard now

Ceejay I actually have a semi-decent townread on because I appreciate his efforts to scumhunt in , and backing up with reasoning in . However, I'm actually double guessing myself on this read here because I know ceejay isn't usually this towny early game.

GulityLion I'm not actually townreading him as much as I stated but still leans more town than scum for me.

Not_Mafia has only one post but I'm actually slightly sussing him for it, I feel the use of punctuation and capitals is uncharacteristic of him.

Jumble I actually slightly scumread unrelated to GuiltyLion, idk why but pings me, the experience thing just feels off

InfiniteSoda I don't really see anything wrong with him

Suka has 1 naked RVS vote but it puts ceejay at L-2 so I do kinda dislike this

pirate mollie while being one of highest posters (!) has not much in content, but I think this is still NAI for now. Some posts I find awkward but did mirror my thoughts


Gamma Emerald I also have no clue
I am just going to focus on the read you have on me for rn

so which post(s) do you find awkward? what is awkward about them?

the only thing that really stands out in this readslist is that this:

InfiniteSoda I don't really see anything wrong with him


so what exactly is
right
with soda person?

catching up as I go
Actually the only post I saw as awkward was the one where you felt the need to specify that your 'hi' was directed at me.

You're actually right that my Soda read was the one I was the most lazy one, I tried semi-analyzing everyone's posts but skimmed his iso without analyzing much.
There's nothing right with Soda either, it's that because I had more than average number of scum in my list it inclined me to lean town on him at that point. However, his new post is pinging me a bit.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #14) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:52 pm

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In post 57, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kinda liking mollie for town rn
Yeah I can sheep this, I can see Mollie as town
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Post Post #72 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:01 pm

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In post 63, GuiltyLion wrote:alright, the time has come then! I didn't like how he entered the game with four players already being voted and decided to put his RVS vote on a fifth player. Could be someone too afraid to make waves by putting a second vote on someone.
Ok I'm definitely not going to follow you on this one, I disagree town won't necessary do what you described, and furthermore 5 is quite an arbitrary number. Do you have statistal evidence backing this up?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #16) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:25 pm

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I still think that's quite arbitrary, what's the significance 5 being just more than half the players?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:43 pm

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mollie - my current townpool is you and GL only. Pathetic, I know. I don't actually feel comfortable putting Ceejay in my townpool.

Agreed Suka's second vote was bad and I in fact think the same of their first vote, but I'm not going to L-1 this early, especially because NM is in the game
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Post Post #88 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:53 pm

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I guess for now I'll
UNVOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I can get more from that slot, also I didn't like his GL push.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 102, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: InfiniteSoda
so anyone got a reason NOT to lynch this?
if
he's town then he's super easy mislynch bait for scum to do nothing today and coast into LYLO

I still think Jumble is scum
That's a very big if, I still want to lynch Soda, but I want to hear a claim from that slot first.

I'm actually townreading Jumble right now, but I'm finding it hard to explain why. I guess tone?


Also, NM was a weird kill and I think it points at one of the consensus townreads being actually scum.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:51 am

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Prodge

I think we need to wait for Soda/replacement at this point
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Post Post #118 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:43 am

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Oh hey Alisae, I didn’t know you still play Mafia

Your slot quickhammered D1 btw
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Post Post #139 (isolation #22) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:57 am

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Sigh idk what to do at this point
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Post Post #140 (isolation #23) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:00 am

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Like the NM kill was so weird it confused me so much that I'm doubting my D1 townreads
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Post Post #141 (isolation #24) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:13 am

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I'll expand on my thought process here:

No one kills NM for being towny, he simply wasn't and there were townier players
No one kills NM for being especially good at the game because he simply isn't the best player (no offense NM)
No one kills NM for scumreading them, or for framing, because NM didn't state any scumreads

So these are the possibilities I'm thinking right now:
Maybe scum are too inexperienced with NM to avoid killing him, which points to the team being Alisae/Jumble
Maybe scum were the towniest players in the game so they had to kill non-towny players, which points to Guilty/mollie

But I think the most likely explanation is that scum were looking to kill a PR. This suggests experienced players in the team, so I think at least of Gulity/mollie/Gamma is scum.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:26 am

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Although one thing I want to say is this?
In post 114, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wanna kill the pirate
Like that looks c/p’d from scumthread ngl
In post 122, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thing is I think that post fuckup by mollie comes from scum c/p’ing something from their thread
So like if you’re town the Dream is prolly dead
You also haven’t answered my question
How did you come to this conclusion? This is such a weird read it makes me feel that you're scum TMIing your partner
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Post Post #144 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:40 am

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Do you have anything better, though? Because I felt that the NM kill was one of the biggest events in the game.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:04 am

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In post 145, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 142, singletonking wrote:Although one thing I want to say is this?
In post 114, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wanna kill the pirate
Like that looks c/p’d from scumthread ngl
In post 122, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thing is I think that post fuckup by mollie comes from scum c/p’ing something from their thread
So like if you’re town the Dream is prolly dead
You also haven’t answered my question
How did you come to this conclusion? This is such a weird read it makes me feel that you're scum TMIing your partner
It looks like something scum would post in scumchat too
And the broken tag looked like what happens when I try to c/p text with tags on my phone sometimes
What

I see people messing up tags all the time. mollie even messed up the spoilered image tag
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Post Post #150 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:08 am

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All things considered, though, if I set aside my paranoia, I think I still want to lynch Alisae. Other than the quickhammer yesterday, Alisae hasn't very little scumhunting since replace in, less than I like.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 152, Alisae wrote:
In post 150, singletonking wrote:Alisae hasn't very little scumhunting since replace in
I want mollie to show up
we got time chill

I came to play with Moliie not satisfy whatever the fuck your needs are.
We don't have time :(
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Alisae (2) -
Gamma Emerald, NotAJumbleOfNumbers

Not Voting (5) -
GuiltyLion, singletonking, pirate mollie, Alisae, ceejayvinoya

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-01-04 13:30:00).


pirate mollie is V/LA until 1/5.
Prodding GuiltyLion.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:35 am

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And sadly mollie's V/LA ends past deadline
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Post Post #157 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 156, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:There’s one factor I think you’re missing here: Alisae’s active in a game that is lacking in activity.
I kinda expect replacements to do a good catch-up
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Post Post #180 (isolation #32) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:07 am

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Buddying to who?
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Post Post #183 (isolation #33) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:48 am

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Idk

I want to give Alisae a pass but I feel I probably shouldn't

I thought Jumble's jump on Suka was quite opportunistic but tonally I liked them
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Post Post #184 (isolation #34) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:49 am

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But yeah the "guys" is definitely not copy pasted
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Post Post #200 (isolation #35) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:52 pm

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Hi I'll be here
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Post Post #201 (isolation #36) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:09 pm

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On reread I see Alisae's point on Jumble having no reads, except consensus scumreads
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Post Post #204 (isolation #37) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:41 pm

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Wow, cool art you made, Alisae!

I'm here but I'm tired so I want to rest for a while, even though I know deadline is up soon.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #38) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:45 pm

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I mean I guess I still don't have a reason to doubt my townread on mollie
I can sheep on the Ceejay townread which I had earlier
And maybe GuiltyLion is still town

Gamma hasn't done anything townie
And I can get behind your Jumble scumread

I think my lynchpool is you/Gamma/Jumble but I will need to decide on who I want to lynch most
And what's noticable is that my reads list is similar to yours (?), despite you leaning scum for me, but it's something I'll need to reconsider
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Post Post #214 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:00 am

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Actually I remember part of the reason I disliked that quickhammer is that it looks accidental. If he said he was hammering intentionally, while it would have annoyed me more, it would make me scumread the slot less because I feel that scum are less likely to want to have their hammer seem intentional, while town really love to yolohammer these days and I don't think Soda would accidentally hammer as town given his claimed experience.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:03 am

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All things considered though I think I want to lynch Gamma? He's the only one I don't have a townvibe from.

But this feels wrong somehow, and if my PoE pool is correct this means the team is Alisae/Jumble, which I don't think makes much sense given their votes today.

Maybe I should wait for the replacements...
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Post Post #216 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:05 am

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@Alisae why aren't you townreading mollie?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:59 am

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Eh I'll sheep you for now
VOTE: NotAJumbleOfNumbers

Keep in mind that we have an extension so we're in no rush for a lynch.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:55 am

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Hi Persivul :) nice to see you again
Also hi TTTT

I want to see what Jumble says when he comes back
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Post Post #258 (isolation #44) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:06 am

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UNVOTE: Jumble

I wanted Jumble to come in and state his stances given how much he has contributed to the game, but really Gamma is my preferred lynch, and I don't think Jumble is coming back.

Although one thing I remembered is that Gamma may be somewhat lynchbaity as I remember Gamma being mislynched quite often in the Micro queue quite recently, and this somewhat makes me hesitant on this. I'm not going to look over those games, but
@Gamma is the above true, and do you remember why you were mislynched in those games?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #45) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:04 pm

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Ari I'm thinking you and Gamma are partners and I don't like your townread on Gamma
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Post Post #295 (isolation #46) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:27 pm

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Gamma you are my top suspect but I hesitated because I remembered you being lynched more than normal
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Post Post #296 (isolation #47) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:31 pm

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In post 291, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 290, singletonking wrote:Ari I'm thinking you and Gamma are partners and I don't like your townread on Gamma
:lol:

Okay, why not?
I was thinking if Gamma was scum who would his partner be, because everyone iirc scumread Gamma. Then I remembered Jumble didn't, so I was thinking Gamma/Jumble made sense.

And your townread on Gamma was so safe: it's the only townread you didn't elaborate on.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #48) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:32 pm

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Speaking of which, I didn't like TTTT's vote on Gamma
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Post Post #323 (isolation #49) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:56 pm

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Nothing over the last few pages has changed my mind over who I want to lynch, and deadline is coming soon so...

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #325 (isolation #50) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:10 pm

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In post 324, Alisae wrote:
Intent to Hammer
Please no until Gamma claims
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Post Post #327 (isolation #51) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:17 pm

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Why not?
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Post Post #328 (isolation #52) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:24 pm

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In post 289, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was suspecting your slot but you’ve definitely been an improvement
I don’t like how TTTT seems to be hardcore double talking the me vs Alisae situation
This is the only place you've stated a townread(?) on Ari so you're definitely going to have to expand on this.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #53) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:22 am

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In post 332, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, Gamma Emerald wrote:Claim VT
Don’t lynch Ari after this though
Okay now Gamma dies for sure.
VOTE: Gamma
This is probably a wolfclaim.
This read makes absolutely no sense and is just a wolf throwing wine at this point.
It’s
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Like Idunno I have a hard time seeing town write something like this it’s because I expect there to be more to it.
Agreed
I don't see town posting this and leaving
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Post Post #338 (isolation #54) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:23 am

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But I think if Gamma is indeed scum I think it leads to Ari being town, because looking at the Gamma/Ari interactions they are so bad I think Gamma is intentionally setting Ari up.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #55) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:25 am

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Btw I won't be at deadline and I'll probably be here for 1-2 hours at max
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Post Post #343 (isolation #56) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:34 am

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In post 340, Alisae wrote:Anything else asides from that last post?
Also how would that explain Ari's reads, who seem like they're kinda trying to work with Gamma.
Eh
I dislike their mutual townreads, but that was a red flag to me as trying to intentionally form bad associatives
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Post Post #344 (isolation #57) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:35 am

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In post 342, Persivul wrote:What do you think about TTTT's vote change with less than a day to deadline?
In post 329, TTTT wrote:VOTE: Ari

I'll be back before EOD to hammer

but I'd like Pers to take a stand
like I asked before
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Post Post #346 (isolation #58) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:37 am

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But TTTT's someone going into my lynch list if Gamma flips town
His vote on Gamma was the worst
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Post Post #347 (isolation #59) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:39 am

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In post 345, Alisae wrote:Single I'm down to talk but I want you to drive the conversation since I feel like most if not all of my cards are pratically flat out on the table so I'm not exactly sure where to start.
Aside from my GL read and strongly believing in the fact I feel like I solved the game now, I feel like practically everything I feel like I've had to say I've practically said.

pedit: I honestly don't care dude.
He probs just wants more information out of the day.
Like I get it he's weird but like
Idunno I just don't feel like its scummy weird
Idk my reads line up with yours

Except I still have a bit of paranoia of you, while you have been towny I feel you may be able to do this as scum given my perceived experience of you, and there's lingering thoughts of that quickhammer
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Post Post #353 (isolation #60) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 am

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In post 348, Alisae wrote:
In post 343, singletonking wrote:
In post 340, Alisae wrote:Anything else asides from that last post?
Also how would that explain Ari's reads, who seem like they're kinda trying to work with Gamma.
Eh
I dislike their mutual townreads, but that was a red flag to me as trying to intentionally form bad associatives
Okay but from Gamma's PoV, he thinks he is going to die for sure.
So he's either going to make you think that to either protect his buddy or setup bad associatives.
It's wine, so I'm ignoring it. But I'm wondering why you think he's moreso just trying to setup bad associatives over using something like that to protect his buddy.
Like usually when I see scum state a terrible townread on a scummy player that scummy player turns out being town.
I have seen only one exception to this in my games though and the scum were new/inexperienced mutually stating obvtownreads
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Post Post #354 (isolation #61) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:50 am

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I'm not super 100% on this though because Gamma hasn't defended Ari enough to be sure on the tell
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Post Post #355 (isolation #62) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:52 am

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In post 351, Aristophanes wrote:Lol Gamma is town.

But lynch away I guess.
And based on hydraing with Ari I can tell you that this is something town!Ari would say, or at least have the mentality of. Though I don't know if scum!Ari does this as well.

Ari there's no hammer yet btw, so please make your towncase on Gamma
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Post Post #359 (isolation #63) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:09 am

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In post 349, Alisae wrote:
In post 347, singletonking wrote:scum given my perceived experience of you
Putting alignment aside, what are those?
I'll say this: I feel you're probably experienced enough to make these posts as scum but I can't actually say these things because I don't have other experience with you.

I think I'll be putting aside my paranoia and call you town for now though.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #64) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:11 am

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Also I don't really remember anything I particularly disliked from you
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Post Post #361 (isolation #65) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:14 am

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Actually though I struggle to think who Gamma's partner would be if it's not Ari
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Post Post #362 (isolation #66) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:23 am

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Alisae you here?
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Post Post #365 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:31 am

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Eh I still think Gamma/Ari is the most likely
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Post Post #366 (isolation #68) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:43 am

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I'm thinking if TTTT/Ari makes sense
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Post Post #369 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:49 am

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It's quite superficial but everyone else wants to lynch Gamma
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Post Post #370 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:55 am

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In post 284, Aristophanes wrote:k, game thoughts.

GL's "RVS Tell" is obv BS and I can't believe Numbers played into it.

This game is moving slowly. Which I love! But that explains the replacements and low pagecount. I wish people did more when they were actually here.

Singleton being
BnL
BNL (They prefer the caps this way...) is neat and leads to an early townread.

I'm glad I don't have to sort N_M this game because that's always a nightmare!

Mollie-slot and Gamma read town early on as well.

Like, this
In post 76, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 69, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
In post 51, singletonking wrote:Yeah pretty much, and even the saying that we have gotten out of RVS is debatable. I really needed to find something to get the game going

Is there anyone you have a slight scumlean on?
Not really. I was a bit miffed at mollie’s “5 post combo”, but I don’t think that says anything. Like I said before, it’s a bit early to have any substantial reads.
what at odd thing to get ImagemiffedImage at.

this reads like you are getting actually pissy that I am trying to move the game forward. that is a weird as fuck thing to pick out, out of all of my posts.
is good sorting. Even if it in on my bad slot :lol:

This leaves Alibae/Soda, TTTT/ceejay, and GL as possible scum.
Reading them more carefully as we continue to D2.
In post 107, ceejayvinoya wrote:I would love to know where he got his experience. I thought his hammer vote yesterday was accidental.
OH SHIT IT"S SODA/CJ AKA ALIBAY/TTTT!!!!

EASY GAME GUYS! =D
In post 286, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can’t believe you didn’t know Singleton was BNL
It’s in singletons sig man.
But one thing that pointed me to seeing Gamma/Ari are these posts. was bad, accusing Ari over nothing??? But what's worse is that Ari didn't show anywhere in the post that he didn't know I am BNL, which possibly indicates communication between them.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:57 am

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Idk being able to come up with only one partner for Gamma makes me feel worse about lynching Gamma
But idk anymore
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Post Post #372 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:57 am

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Sorry I think I have to go now, likely won't be back by deadline
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Post Post #419 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:22 pm

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Hi

I think massclaim may be a good idea? I don't know though
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Post Post #420 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:25 pm

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In post 409, GuiltyLion wrote:We should massclaim today IMO

I stopped the kill so I would like to claim last and get everyone's reads first before I drop some juicy knowledge bombs on ya
:(
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Post Post #422 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:35 pm

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Actually yeah I support a massclaim.

And no, I'm not claiming early unless everyone else insists.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:46 pm

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Eh maybe it'll be better for me to claim early

I'll think about it
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Post Post #429 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:54 pm

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Ok

VCA points to Alisae's slot being scum. While it points to you as well I don't think you're scum.
I disliked Ari's WK of Gamma in light of Gamma townflip
And TTTT's vote on Gamma was the worst with little reason backing up.

Guilty and Persivul I townread.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:55 pm

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I remember start of Day 2 pointing Alisae/Ari probably not a team but I need to reread
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Post Post #438 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:04 pm

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In post 435, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 284, Aristophanes wrote:OH SHIT IT"S SODA/CJ AKA ALIBAY/TTTT!!!!

EASY GAME GUYS! =D
I still like this and while I want to play with Alisae for as long as possible I also think they should be the lynch today.
Why would you ask Persivul to claim if TTTT is your top scumread other than Alisae?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #80) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:25 am

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Alright. I'm Bulletproof, and I believe I was shot last Night. I have a modifier but I'd like to conceal it unless you want me to claim it.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:26 am

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For the record I think it's Ari and TTTT but will need to reread.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:28 am

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Eh but VCA points to Alisae
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Post Post #450 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:15 am

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As dumb as this sounds, I still want to hear Ari's towncase on Gamma
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Post Post #469 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 451, Aristophanes wrote:....

I mean, I can do that I guess?
That is an odd request though I get that it is to glean my motivations
I want to know if you had actual reasons to townread Gamma and were not WKing Gamma for towncred.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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Alisae would you feel better about me if I claim modifier
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Post Post #471 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:28 pm

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Alisae I would like to talk about this because I'm not confident that you're scum here.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:51 pm

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Eh actually scum will not be killing me anymore so I have no reason to hide modifier

I'm 2-shot bulletproof.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:50 am

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Current reads:

Town
Alisae
TTTT, Persivul
Aristophanes
Scum

I still think Ari is scum and I surprisingly think Alisae is town here. Among TTTT and Persivul, I think TTTT is more likely to be town but I'm not sure of this.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:08 am

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I'll explain my reads:

I really townread Alisae because I feel like her (his?) paranoia into scumreading me is genuine, and I don't see her doing that as scum given how everyone else is locktowning me and it was also her stance from yesterday.

Ari is scum for putting no thoughts into who is scum. Like "I don't really have a read on Pers" - really? While they've said that they want Alisae lynched I don't see any efforts into scumhunting.

Reads on Pers/TTTT I'll not say for now because not confident but I also want to see if how their play rolls out is in line with my thoughts on them.
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Post Post #487 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:06 am

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First paragraph - what are you trying to say?

And yes, I am resetting my reads as well. And I've already concluded you're probably town.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #91) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:13 am

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Like I get the concern that everyone else is scumreading Ari but I don't think it's unlikely that scum are bussing their scummier partner at this stage of the game.
In post 493, Aristophanes wrote:I was thinking of NL actually
And this is a terrible post by Ari. If he's town I don't see him trying to win here. This is even taking into consideration that he is often lynchbait as town.

On the other hand, I don't like TTTT voting a consensus scumread early in the Day.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #92) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:24 am

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Also Alisae your entire case on TTTT/Persivul looked like you were forcing yourself and trying to throw everything you have to support your theory rather than analysing everything and I don't like it.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #93) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:30 am

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Eh I think overall the scumteam is still Ari/Persivul

I still have Ari as strongest scumread, and I dislike some of Persivul's posts on the last page.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #94) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:34 am

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Alisae (or anyone, really), do you have any experience to show that Ari will do this as town in MyLo?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #95) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:30 am

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In post 519, Alisae wrote:
In post 505, singletonking wrote:Like I get the concern that everyone else is scumreading Ari but I don't think it's unlikely that scum are bussing their scummier partner at this stage of the game.
ITS MYLO
Hmm that's a good point I think(?), in the sense that the games I experienced this the game was not in MYLO but one Day before. I'm not sure how applicable that is here.

The point here I am making though is that I have been in several games where reading people individually it's not hard to figure out who the scum are but if you think about the associations they throw you off. I used to believe in scumhunting by associations but now I think it's best to just ignore them.

And is it really strong enough for you to be locktowning Ari based on this?
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Post Post #524 (isolation #96) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:37 am

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Ehhhhh I don't know

I get what you're saying but I feel like Ari's real life factors play into how he's playing right now

I just want to stall the game to get a better read on Ari who may come back.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #97) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:38 am

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In post 523, Alisae wrote:It’s more so I considered the options of him being town and drawn a conclusion that I think makes sense based on how the two people in question are playing.
Eh I'll take a look into that
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Post Post #526 (isolation #98) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:39 am

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Plus I'm scumreading him for a reason not related to being lynchbaity: his WK on Gamma
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Post Post #528 (isolation #99) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:41 am

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Yes I should probably be more careful as well
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Post Post #530 (isolation #100) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:44 am

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Do you scumread TTTT and Persivul independently though? Or is a bulk of your scumread their associatives?
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Post Post #534 (isolation #101) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:07 am

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Eh I reread the game
I just want to believe Alisae town

I can see Persivul scum but I need to make sure I'm not confbiasing here
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Post Post #535 (isolation #102) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:10 am

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In post 460, GuiltyLion wrote:N1 I jailed Jumble-now-Aristophanes
I should probably keep this in mind

But I don't think scum submits their scummier member to perform the kill
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Post Post #536 (isolation #103) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:37 am

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I need to actually case Persivul at some point but these are some posts I disliked:
In post 478, Persivul wrote:
In post 447, singletonking wrote:Alright. I'm Bulletproof, and I believe I was shot last Night. I have a modifier but I'd like to conceal it unless you want me to claim it.
Makes sense - you're the towniest person in the game. Did you play it that way
because
you're BP, or is that just a fortunate draw?
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In post 460, GuiltyLion wrote: ah well this sucks. was really hoping we had an investigative

I jailed Persivul last night and was figuring he was lock scum for that but now anything is possible.

N1 I jailed Jumble-now-Aristophanes
Why lock scum? Why can't you see me as the
target
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In post 475, TTTT wrote:all I've deduced from this is that if single is scum then pers is his partner
Interesting - how did you come up with that?
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Post Post #544 (isolation #104) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:22 am

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In post 539, TTTT wrote:
In post 537, Alisae wrote:UNVOTE:
Single and GL, how do you feel if we force Ari Persivul and TTTT to place votes?
I already placed my vote.

This isn't that complicated
We are lynching today in Ari/Alisae/Pers
and I'm not losing this game bc we failed to lynch the scummiest slot of the entire game when we were in mylo
Who's your other scumread?
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Post Post #545 (isolation #105) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:26 am

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In post 535, singletonking wrote:
In post 460, GuiltyLion wrote:N1 I jailed Jumble-now-Aristophanes
I should probably keep this in mind

But I don't think scum submits their scummier member to perform the kill
I misremembered who replaced who.

I definitely now think that Alisae/Ari are not buddies. There are many reasons, but the biggest one is that if scum were Soda/Jumble (now Alisae/Ari) they would've probably submitted Jumble to do the kill, and we now know that wasn't stopped.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #106) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:28 am

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I also am starting to dislike TTTT. I now think that Alisae was right that Persivul/TTTT are scum and planning a mislynch on Ari.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #107) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 489, TTTT wrote:GL was my other strong SR but
he was really town at EoD
and I'm treating his claim as truth
One thing I find scummy about TTTT: Town doesn't say the bolded here.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #108) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:35 am

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In post 543, GuiltyLion wrote:also I thought Persivul's Page 21 posting was good and townie
What did you like about it? I disagree.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #109) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:41 am

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I'm not certain Ari is scum here, I think it's plausible that RL factors are affecting his play here.

But I don't like how TTTT is playing the Ari lynch.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #110) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:59 am

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In post 550, Persivul wrote:
In post 539, TTTT wrote: I already placed my vote.

This isn't that complicated
We are lynching today in Ari/Alisae/Pers
Trying to keep as many options open as possible?
Are you now asking this given that I'm now supporting Alisae in a you/TTTT theory?
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Post Post #556 (isolation #111) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:15 am

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I should probably be more open about my reasons

Eh maybe you aren't scum
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Post Post #557 (isolation #112) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 554, Persivul wrote:
In post 547, singletonking wrote:
In post 489, TTTT wrote:GL was my other strong SR but
he was really town at EoD
and I'm treating his claim as truth
One thing I find scummy about TTTT: Town doesn't say the bolded here.
Why not? If you asked him why he said that that's one thing. Just a blanket
Town doesn't say X
is simplistic.
I should have explained this earlier: Guilty is lock-town now because of claims, I think it's pretty obvious the setup isn't 6VT + 2-shotBP vs whatever Mafia. Which makes me dislike the bolded because I expect TTTT to realise this and town do not add reasons to a locktown read, but scum do for towncred.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #113) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:24 am

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In post 553, Persivul wrote:
In post 546, singletonking wrote:I also am starting to dislike TTTT. I now think that Alisae was right that Persivul/TTTT are scum and planning a mislynch on Ari.
Yes, TTTT looks bad, particularly how he's noncommital and is now throwing Alisae into the mix.

Regarding my slot:

- Remember that it's a slot. I believe you were town reading Mollie. Do you have real reasons to scum read me after that, or is it just due to playstyle?

- Why do you think Ari's a mislynch? His content is shit. RL issues can excuse lack of posting, but even the posting he's done is bad. Alisae created the
Ari's too easy so must be town
narrative out of thin air. More often than not, the obvious answer is the correct one.
1. I was townreading mollie, but that was really just lazy on my part. Someone said their posts look town and I read it and mentally said "ok fair", then you later repped in and posted stuff and someone said you looked town and I was like "ok fair"
But these were weak reasons overall and I reset my reads when mylo hit and I started scumreading your posts.

2. I don't particularly think Ari's a mislynch, but for the argument that you and TTTT are scum then Ari is town so his RL stuff is a reconciling point.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #114) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:25 am

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I guess I can kinda see TTTT/Ari
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Post Post #561 (isolation #115) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:34 am

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Ok Persivul I'll tell you one reason why I scumread you:
In post 478, Persivul wrote:
In post 447, singletonking wrote:Alright. I'm Bulletproof, and I believe I was shot last Night. I have a modifier but I'd like to conceal it unless you want me to claim it.
Makes sense - you're the towniest person in the game. Did you play it that way
because
you're BP, or is that just a fortunate draw?
Like the question is not really scumhuntingy which I dislike, although it's my personal dislike and probably not actually scummy

But what I dislike is you just straight up say I'm the "towniest person in the game" - like seriously, not an ounce of paranoia here before the BP claim in MyLo?
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Post Post #563 (isolation #116) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:53 am

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Ok the second sentence makes a lot of sense and I appreciate talking you.

And I'll happily answer it: I don't force myself to obvtown in games, but I play the game naturally. The BP role did not affect my play here.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #117) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:15 am

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Ari, why is Persivul scum over everyone else who wants to lynch you?

Still want to hear your towncase on Gamma
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Post Post #581 (isolation #118) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pm

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GL why is TTTT town I'm not seeing it
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Post Post #589 (isolation #119) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 570, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 568, Persivul wrote:
In post 564, Aristophanes wrote:Persivul, why are you pushing so hard for my lynch.
I'm not. I don't have a vote on you. I'm not saying
Come on people, let's lynch this
or anything like that. I will be doing that later in phase if nothing changes, but for now:
- I'm giving you a chance to change things because single said you have some RL things going on, and
- I'm trying to figure out if anyone other than TTTT (basically Alisae at this point) could be your partner

Frankly you're not helping the first point with this. Yes, I scum read you. No, I'm not pushing hard for your lynch right now. Why did you spin it that way?
In that case I am bad at skimming the thread lol
The posts Ive stopped to read were all pushes towards my scumminess so it sure seemed to me that yku were the main propogator here.

I'll do a full dive asap but yeah, irl is stupid and I shouldn't be joining games lmao
Can someone, particularly GL, tell me if this comes from a town or scum mindset?
Specifically the "I'm only reading the pushes against me" part
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Post Post #603 (isolation #120) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:40 am

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Ari who's the other scum
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Post Post #606 (isolation #121) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:04 am

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I am so confused
I don't particularly scumread anyone of the four more than the others

Based on individual scumminess, I'm thinking TTTT/Ari, but that makes the least sense based on interactions
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Post Post #607 (isolation #122) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 am

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Like TTTT today is "Easy lynch on Ari no need to discuss"
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Post Post #608 (isolation #123) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:06 am

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Does anyone think it'll be a mistake to lock Alisae as town here?
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Post Post #630 (isolation #124) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:11 pm

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GL why are you townreading TTTT

He’s singlemindedly lynching Ari today
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Post Post #633 (isolation #125) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:24 pm

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Last day today

I'd better reread everything
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Post Post #635 (isolation #126) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:25 pm

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I think now Persivul may be my strongest townread?

But IDK
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Post Post #647 (isolation #127) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:38 pm

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Sorry I'm back I had stuff to do
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Post Post #648 (isolation #128) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:39 pm

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This game is much harder than I'd like it to be
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Post Post #651 (isolation #129) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:41 pm

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Ugh these Ari/Ali interactions are now appearing scummy
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Post Post #653 (isolation #130) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:42 pm

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In post 646, Aristophanes wrote:
GuiltyLion wrote:okay assuming you're town for a second, you do completely understand how you've given virtually no readable content, right? you called gamma obvtown but didn't bother to explain why right as he was the inevitable lynch also as YOUR MAIN COUNTERWAGON. you barely gave any strong reads on anyone today, instead repeatedly promising content and catchups later. then you just scumread the slots that finally got tired of waiting and put votes on you

like how am I supposed to feel good about townreading that? can you give me anything other than AtE here?
Honestly the catchups aren't going to happen. I did some rereading and I feel better about these reads since. Gamma was obvtown and I stand by that. And why, as scum, would I call my main counterwagon obvtown?? That makes no sense!
Because it's not enough to defend your counterwagon from lynch, and it gives you towncred
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Post Post #657 (isolation #131) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:50 pm

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In post 461, Alisae wrote:VOTE: single
I think this is a 1v1 I'm willing to do, I'll spend more time on it later but EoD yesterday made me feel very uneasy about it, and I kinda don't buy the BP claim.
Would scum!Alisae do this given no one else scumreading me?
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Post Post #658 (isolation #132) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:04 pm

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In post 572, TTTT wrote:
In post 545, singletonking wrote:I definitely now think that Alisae/Ari are not buddies. There are many reasons, but the biggest one is that if scum were Soda/Jumble (now Alisae/Ari) they would've probably submitted Jumble to do the kill, and we now know that wasn't stopped.
this is the most valid argument I've seen for town!Ari

UNVOTE:
TTTT how is this an argument for town!Ari?
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Post Post #659 (isolation #133) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 pm

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In post 586, Aristophanes wrote:We've got like 3 days guys relax
3 days
>Relax
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Post Post #662 (isolation #134) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:11 pm

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I'm going to see if it makes sense for Ari to be a disengaged townie
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Post Post #663 (isolation #135) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:17 pm

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Sorry scumhunting is very tiring
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Post Post #664 (isolation #136) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:18 pm

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Atm still thinking TTTT/Ari but doesn't make sense with associations?

I guess it could make sense if TTTT already thought Ari was a goner?
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Post Post #669 (isolation #137) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:56 pm

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I think I'm now getting a fever from playing this game

Alisae you still here?
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Post Post #670 (isolation #138) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:01 pm

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Towncase on Persivul first:

I thought he was planning something because he seemed to be playing around a mindset of Ari/Alisae scum. But the more he posts the more I realise he's trying to figure things out.
I also think Alisae is town and I don't think TTTT and Ari have done towny things.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #139) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:02 pm

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Alisae reply ASAP when you see this
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Post Post #673 (isolation #140) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:13 pm

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Alright tell me when you're ready again

There's a question I want to ask you and have it answered immediately instinctively
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Post Post #674 (isolation #141) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:15 pm

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As soon as you get back I'm dropping the question immediately
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Post Post #676 (isolation #142) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:22 pm

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In post 673, singletonking wrote:Alright tell me when you're ready again

There's a question I want to ask you and have it answered immediately instinctively
In post 674, singletonking wrote:As soon as you get back I'm dropping the question immediately
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Post Post #678 (isolation #143) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:25 pm

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In post 363, Alisae wrote:
In post 362, singletonking wrote:Alisae you here?
I got sidetracked sorry, let me read up 1 sec
What were you sidetracked with?
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Post Post #680 (isolation #144) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:27 pm

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Huh?
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Post Post #681 (isolation #145) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:27 pm

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Anyways I'm starting to get confident in TTTT scum
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Post Post #682 (isolation #146) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:32 pm

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TTTT has made absolutely no effort into thinking whether Alisae or Persivul is scum. I can kinda buy him lockscumming Ari, but I don't see him trying to find out who last scum is.

Sure he has thrown out a few theories on why Alisae could be final scum, or Persivul could be final scum, but I don't see him
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Post Post #683 (isolation #147) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:36 pm

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In post 610, TTTT wrote:my greatest fear is spiders
second is Alisae/Pers
Also why does TTTT ever say this while voting Ari?
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Post Post #684 (isolation #148) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:36 pm

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I'd lynch TTTT over Ari right now
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Post Post #685 (isolation #149) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:39 pm

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In post 615, TTTT wrote:there's this weird site-meta thing
where everyone in mylo stops wanting to lynch obvscum players because it would be too easy
just because we are in mylo doesn't mean scummy behavior on previous days is no longer scummy
My hesitance to lynch Ari isn't because he's obvscum
It's because you look like scum trying to push a mislynch
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Post Post #686 (isolation #150) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:42 pm

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Whatever this isn't instant loss if I'm wrong
VOTE: TTTT
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Post Post #687 (isolation #151) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:45 pm

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In post 571, TTTT wrote:
In post 544, singletonking wrote:Who's your other scumread?
I don't know
like I said GL was my only other SR yesterday and it's pretty obvious I was wrong there
>I don't know
>Doesn't give his current thoughts
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Post Post #692 (isolation #152) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:14 pm

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Eh honestly I don't feel too bad about lynching Ari, he's my second scumread

But GL doesn't it concern you that TTTT isn't deciding who's scum between Alisae and Persivul?
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Post Post #695 (isolation #153) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:17 pm

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In post 693, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 96, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.03
Suka (5) -
pirate mollie, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, GuiltyLion, Not_Mafia, InfiniteSoda
GuiltyLion (2) -
ceejayvinoya, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (1) -
singletonking
singletonking (1) -
Suka

Not Voting (0) -


With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

ceejayvinoya is V/LA until Jan 1st.
also the biggest reason not to lynch TTTT is that he wasn't on the D1 lynch

I'm town and Not_Mafia is town. 3 of the other players are still alive. I'm townreading Persivul. That means pretty close to 50/50 shot of scum between Ari/Alisae if not greater odds in the event both of them are scum
Why does that matter?
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Post Post #697 (isolation #154) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:20 pm

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Wait TTTT was off both the first and second lynches, I must have miscounted
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Post Post #698 (isolation #155) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:21 pm

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If TTTT isn't scum, who's scum between Alisae and Pers?
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Post Post #699 (isolation #156) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:22 pm

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And Pers was on both the first and second lynches

Hmmm
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Post Post #701 (isolation #157) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:23 pm

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It's weird, Alisae and Persivul were on both lynches, but are my two townreads right now.
Am I doing something wrong here?
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Post Post #703 (isolation #158) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:24 pm

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UNVOTE: TTTT
I need to think
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Post Post #704 (isolation #159) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:27 pm

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Has TTTT done anything townie at all?
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Post Post #705 (isolation #160) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:28 pm

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Town
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TTTT
Scum

Is what I'm thinking right now
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Post Post #706 (isolation #161) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:28 pm

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GL is there a world where Alise is scum but Ari isn't?
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Post Post #707 (isolation #162) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:31 pm

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I think Alisae is just having a lot of paranoia rather than actually scum
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Post Post #708 (isolation #163) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:33 pm

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GL don't leave on me :(
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Post Post #710 (isolation #164) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:24 am

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Lack of paranoia doesn't make you scum
Whatever Ari's scum as well we're lynching him today
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Post Post #711 (isolation #165) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:19 am

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w/e I don't see anything changing at this point
VOTE: Aristophanes

Alisae if you're scum with TTTT or Persivul you've probably won but otherwise don't quickhammer to allow GL to announce his JK target
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Post Post #715 (isolation #166) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:31 am

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I am so relieved
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Post Post #719 (isolation #167) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:36 am

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The only non-Ari team possible at this point is TTTT/Persivul and while I think there's a decent possibility for it I don't think much can be done anymore
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Post Post #720 (isolation #168) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:40 am

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I may or may not wake up in time to change votes if need be
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Post Post #775 (isolation #169) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:19 pm

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Sorry I woke up a bit too late
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Post Post #783 (isolation #170) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:30 pm

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Wait did we lose
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Post Post #795 (isolation #171) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:43 pm

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Ari are you actually town?
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Post Post #807 (isolation #172) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:28 am

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GL <3
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Post Post #808 (isolation #173) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:29 am

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Please don’t insta end the Day, I want to discuss stuff
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Post Post #809 (isolation #174) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:37 am

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I’d never thought I’d live to see this Day

[inserts reference]
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Post Post #810 (isolation #175) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:45 am

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Wait actually I think this may be a lock win

Please Please Please don't quickhammer, I will think about this when I wake up but I don't have time to mechanically solve now
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Post Post #820 (isolation #176) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:21 pm

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Unvote now
I don’t want persivul to self quickhammer
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Post Post #821 (isolation #177) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:24 pm

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Sigh
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Post Post #822 (isolation #178) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:25 pm

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GL in case of quickhammer jail Alisae tonight
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Post Post #832 (isolation #179) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm

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Hi

I realised the game isn't really solved yet, it's contingent on me being conftown and while I feel like I'm conftown I'm not mechanically conftown
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Post Post #833 (isolation #180) » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm

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I don't know what I'm worried about honestly

Like we lynch Persivul today, and jail one of Alisae/TTTT. If scum kill, we lynch the non-jailed. If scum don't kill, we lynch whoever and jail the last person who is confirmed scum.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #181) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:57 am

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Lol ok challenge accepted
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Post Post #837 (isolation #182) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:05 am

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In post 834, TTTT wrote:1) trying to keep Alisae open as a scum possibility right now
It's funny that you're using that as a point against me given you've said this:
In post 758, TTTT wrote:
In post 756, GuiltyLion wrote:okay how about this

since we seem to be agreeing Alisae is only scum with Ari

we can no lynch and I will jail in TTTT/Persivul tonight

if I get it right that's great
if I get it wrong, or if Alisae/Ari is the team, then presumably I'm gone, and singleton has to decide between Alisae/Ari or TTTT/Persivul. My vote is still ultimately on Alisae/Ari most likely, but this gives us an extra chance to save ourselves in case that's wrong.
i don't agree that Alisae is only scum with Ari
also scum can nokill
you are trying to win this game with night actions instead of day reads

Pedit: exactly
In post 763, TTTT wrote:
In post 760, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 758, TTTT wrote:i don't agree that Alisae is only scum with Ari
TTTT, if you're here - you don't buy that scum!Alisae would have hammered a town!Ari by now?

also how does this jump in fit into your game state view at this point? Ari is scum, yet Alisae could be scum with Pers still? If that's actually a possibility to the point where you're disagreeing with me about it, then why are you leaving the decision to hammer Ari in my hands here?
I didn't make the connection that Alisae's no-hammer would make her conftown if Ari flipped town
FWIW, I don't think Alisae's lack of hammer makes them conftown here. It was likely that Guilty was already going to hammer so Alisae didn't need to, and it leads to less damaging outcomes if the kill was prevented. Having said that, I don't think Alisae is scum, I think you are.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #183) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:10 am

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In post 835, TTTT wrote:JK
X-shot BP
the scum team has a roleblocker in this setup like the old Matrix6
if they do, why was GL able to successfully JK last night?
the BP claim ain't right
Yes, scum don't have a roleblocker. How does that make me scum? The Maxtrix6 comparison doesn't make sense here.

Your argument is that because town have a Jailkeeper and scum don't have a roleblocker, then town doesn't have a BP. This objectively doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #839 (isolation #184) » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:13 am

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Honestly though I think TTTT is obvscum and I don't really feel a need to counter his arguments other than for formality or whatever
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Post Post #857 (isolation #185) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:13 am

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Ok

TTTT is the default lynch here, and is who I think is scum

But GL do you want to discuss a bit more in case TTTT isn't scum? If that happens you will need to jail correctly between me and Alisae tonight.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #186) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:10 pm

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GG we win
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Post Post #882 (isolation #187) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 879, Alisae wrote:
In post 878, Persivul wrote:Two games (other I was town) finished today and both heavily favored town. Really turning me off from this site. No point in playing anything but opens.
there’s a reason for this.
MS strongly believes that towns suck. So to deal with this, they give towns way too much.
What might be happening is there’s a shift in the meta where towns are actually getting better so they don’t need so much power.
I remember RC mention somewhere that towns needed to be loaded with power
The last micro normal I played that RC designed town was also heavily stacked
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Post Post #885 (isolation #188) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:24 pm

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But yeah the Neapolitan is unfair for scum with BP in the setup
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