[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery


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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 am

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BBmolla (L-4)
: Lamees, Egix96
Malakitty (L-5)
: Something_Smart
Auro, Nako, Succinct, Malakitty, rb,
BBmolla, Thor665
Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 1849, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
I don't think the way BBmolla played that is more likely to come from scum. If he was scum planning to fakeclaim cop, he'd have just done it, and if he was scum who had planned to fakeclaim cop but then realized that his claim was a direct CC to Lamees, he'd have hard retracted the claim and said it was a joke.
We don't know what scum bbmolla would do. Whatever alignment he is he has faked and we need answers.

And why does scum malakitty defend town bbmolla?
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:51 am

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In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
Disagree.
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:57 am

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In post 1851, Lamees wrote:
In post 1849, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
I don't think the way BBmolla played that is more likely to come from scum. If he was scum planning to fakeclaim cop, he'd have just done it, and if he was scum who had planned to fakeclaim cop but then realized that his claim was a direct CC to Lamees, he'd have hard retracted the claim and said it was a joke.
We don't know what scum bbmolla would do. Whatever alignment he is he has faked and we need answers.

And why does scum malakitty defend town bbmolla?
Why do scum ever defend town? Whiteknighting for towncred. I can see scum thinking that BBmolla will be an easy mislynch... and if he is town there's certainly scum in the people who pushed him today or yesterday. Especially since she'd know he was fakeclaiming, and she'd know that he'd get a backlash if he admitted he wasn't a cop.
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In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
Disagree.
It definitely makes both Nako and rb look better.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:02 am

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If you look at creatures last post, it definitely adds to bbmolla suspicion. The angle he was pushing was to go further into the claim.
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:10 pm

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bbmolla isn't scum smh
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm

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In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
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VOTE: Lamees
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:12 pm

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Bragging about how you scumread a town player and then voting another town player and expecting to be townread for it...?

Not seeing it.
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:15 pm

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The Creature NK makes Nako better because he said she was town, not because she said he was scum. Pretending to scumread a widely townread player and then NK'ing them is not uncommon, and Creature was not going to be lynched as long as a few people familiar with his meta (which I think is most of us) were alive.
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:17 pm

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garbage tier NK analysis
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:18 pm

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until we have a scumflip let's not wifom ourselves into oblivion

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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:33 pm

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There's a flip side to that though. If you let yourself get too scared of WIFOM, you'll miss valuable information. You can just play off the probabilities and ignore the WIFOM, and by definition you'll be right a certain proportion of the time.

In any event, it's about the most concrete information we have to work with here. Creature was probably the strongest voice keeping rb alive, and he was (I think) the only person with an actual towncase for Nako. Does that mean they'd never kill him? No. But it means they're less likely to.
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:36 pm

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VOTE: thor
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:48 pm

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Based off the last few pages Lamees is very likely town. I'm TRing Something_Smart too.

Mala+RB+Molla/Succint is the correct solve I think.

Note the resistance to the Mala wagon.

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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:52 pm

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VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:53 pm

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but actually wanna lynch auro
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 1856, Succinct wrote:
In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
.

VOTE: Lamees
lol this vote

as bad as lamees is playing, they aren't scum

would have been a godlike D1 policy lynch to conftown me but I don't think it's worth it anymore
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:58 pm

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how about day3 ends the way day2 was supposed to end

with a thor lynch

wow so true imo
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:12 pm

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Yeah I’m not claiming. If you all can’t tell that Lamees is just awful than honestly idc. I soft claim shit all the time as town.

I still haven’t read Thor’s posts he linked but very likely my vote will be on him or Auro
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:46 pm

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10656762#p10656762]post 1869[/url], Michael Scott wrote:^Scum.

I love this whole "One of Thor/Auro, walljerking yee" agenda everyone's pushing, without an actual case.

I'm hard-claiming NOT-COP right now. You guys can stop the continued Lamees shade, she's one of the only few players here who actually UNDERSTANDS the mechanics. While sure, you softclaim all the time as town, this was a terrible softclaim to pick since it's mechanically impossible unless Lamees is scum, and your refusal to retract the claim is scummy, doubly with how your buddies were reacting as well.

Turns out, if you're cop, and Lamees' claim is true, the total PR points add up to 10, when 9 is the maximum - thus, making one of you or Lamees a liar. Soft-claiming cop and shading the crap out of Lamees (who accurately called it out) is a terrible look.

Describe your case on me, case on Thor, and why Malakitty is town. Also, nice flip-flop on your Lamees read.
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:30 pm

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10656762#p10656762]post 1869[/url], Michael Scott wrote:^Scum.

I love this whole "One of Thor/Auro, walljerking yee" agenda everyone's pushing, without an actual case.

I'm hard-claiming NOT-COP right now. You guys can stop the continued Lamees shade, she's one of the only few players here who actually UNDERSTANDS the mechanics. While sure, you softclaim all the time as town, this was a terrible softclaim to pick since it's mechanically impossible unless Lamees is scum, and your refusal to retract the claim is scummy, doubly with how your buddies were reacting as well.

Turns out, if you're cop, and Lamees' claim is true, the total PR points add up to 10, when 9 is the maximum - thus, making one of you or Lamees a liar. Soft-claiming cop and shading the crap out of Lamees (who accurately called it out) is a terrible look.

Describe your case on me, case on Thor, and why Malakitty is town. Also, nice flip-flop on your Lamees read.
Cases are scummy

Lamees's attack on me if awful town, I don't believe someone would fake being that bad

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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:35 pm

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VOTE: Auro

Thor's analysis on himself was right, I don't get his whole rb attack (?), but that's on par for Thor-town.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:36 pm

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In post 1863, Auro wrote:Mala+RB+Molla/Succint is the correct solve I think.
there is no humanly possible way someone is town and has these reads
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:38 pm

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In post 1873, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1863, Auro wrote:Mala+RB+Molla/Succint is the correct solve I think.
there is no humanly possible way someone is town and has these reads
Uh huh. If I'm town, what's the best solve in your eyes?
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:48 pm

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In post 1874, Auro wrote:
In post 1873, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1863, Auro wrote:Mala+RB+Molla/Succint is the correct solve I think.
there is no humanly possible way someone is town and has these reads
Uh huh. If I'm town, what's the best solve in your eyes?
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