Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!

[Tibor and Lumia]

Just got back into the game and saw this, what do you mean?

Taly and Varsoon signing their posts redundantly, while the STW hydra refuses to do so.

~Jimothy

r/woosh.

-Turicchio.

It’s whoooosh. With 4 o’s. Also I might post this to r/ihavereddit, though I’d prolly wait til the game ends
-dlaremE ammaG

[Tibor and Lumia]

@Alchemist21: That's why I said it's dumb reasoning and didn't even post it in the first place.
Town obviously didn't respond because they either
1. thought it was a joke
2. wanted to see STW's response
3. forgot about it/overlooked it

But yeah, as for why I'm hung up on it at all:

I just think it's curious that so many people definitely saw it and hard-dodged acknowledging it at all.
It's a creeping feeling like there's something there but I don't know what or how to suss it out.

But I will say that it's kinda been fruitless for me beyond what I said so far, so I'm dropping it.
Will be neat to see post-game, though, if it did mean anything.

-V

Honestly I might have seen it but I don’t remember it that well.
-Glitter Envelope

[Taly]

Alchemist is someone I want to sort more.

I can see scum take the positions he's had (namely the vote/rationality on STW 128 133, 153 and the vote/unvote onto UP2 734 and 736), but, alongside my other iffy/scumlean reads, a lot of people don't agree.

ProFlavor, Michael Scott, and Pint need an individual ISO for me to get thoughts rolling on them.

Mephisto reread / UP2 Wagon Evaluation / ProFlavor/Michael Scott/Pint are the areas of sorting I'm looking to absolve in the next 2 days.

[Almost Chara]

who is mewtaph?

Someone in this game, with a total of 4 posts!

~A50

[Taly]

a50, how have i been towntelling? >:

i wish i was more opinionated than i am right now

also, is T&L towntelling?

[Tibor and Lumia]

@STW: Alchemist, Taly, all the other Hydras, and Pint, all to some extent.

@Michael Stott: You're all gravy.

@Mephistophanes: Yeah, I think you're right, it was those Drealmerz 'games'. Time to shudder hard and purge my brains again.

Expand on your TRs on the non-stw hydrae and Pintu?
-The Real Slim Emerald

[Almost50]

a50, how have i been towntelling? >:

I don't remember, tbh. I mean, I could go dig it up if you insist, but it happened so early in the game that I just subbed you Town and moved on.

~A50

[Tibor and Lumia]

@STW: Alchemist, Taly, all the other Hydras, and Pint, all to some extent.

@Michael Stott: You're all gravy.

@Mephistophanes: Yeah, I think you're right, it was those Drealmerz 'games'. Time to shudder hard and purge my brains again.

Your first sentence implies we're a TR, "gravy" implies mixed feelings though, clarify for me?

~Blah

It's all Gravy, like it's all Good.
I'm from the deep South
It's all G


-V

Bruh where
Wouldn’t really be able to meet up anytime soon but it’d be cool to know what state you live in
-Emerald Dog

[Almost50]

also, is T&L towntelling?

If that was for me, then yes.. Gamma is slightly town telling now, but I had my TR on them via brass earlier. (As usual Chara developed their TR on the slot via Gamma, as they cannot read brass reliably. It's the case with almost 80% of our reads in every game. We come to the same conclusion via totally different ways. And don't get me wrong, we do not use similar ways on the other 20%. We just do not come to the same conclusion either. ).

~A50

[Almost Chara]

a50, how have i been towntelling? >:

I don't remember, tbh. I mean, I could go dig it up if you insist, but it happened so early in the game that I just subbed you Town and moved on.

~A50

also, is T&L towntelling?

If that was for me, then yes.. Gamma is slightly town telling now, but I had my TR on them via brass earlier. (As usual Chara developed their TR on the slot via Gamma, as they cannot read brass reliably. It's the case with almost 80% of our reads in every game. We come to the same conclusion via totally different ways. And don't get me wrong, we do not use similar ways on the other 20%. We just do not come to the same conclusion either. ).

~A50

[Tibor and Lumia]

If tw tr you only 50% of the time, then he sr you the other 50%, correct?

So, if that is the case, why is him not tr you here, scummy?

at least half the time, not exactly half, but yes

It's a probability thing. Obviously I don't know exact probabilities, so there is a feel component but here's the basic idea

Let's say I think this hydra signing stuff comes from town!TW only 25% of the time, and I think town!TW get's a scum read on me 40% of the time. The chance of town!TW doing both of these things is (1/4)(4/10)=1/10=10%

This isn't a perfect model, of course, and I don't assign actual values to these when I make the assessment.

All of this is a long winded way of saying that the more things someone does that are less likely to come from town than scum, the more scummy they are

Why are you assigning rigid probabilities to things anyways?
-A very tired Emerald, who is probably gonna stop for the night.

[Varsoon]

@STW: Alchemist, Taly, all the other Hydras, and Pint, all to some extent.

@Michael Stott: You're all gravy.

@Mephistophanes: Yeah, I think you're right, it was those Drealmerz 'games'. Time to shudder hard and purge my brains again.

Expand on your TRs on the non-stw hydrae and Pintu?
-The Real Slim Emerald

Mostly just how they were all approaching the game. Pint had this very cased out post against URAP2 that felt townie to me, though I'm curious where all that effort came and went.
I can write more on the specifics of this later, gotta catch some Z's. <3

@STW: Alchemist, Taly, all the other Hydras, and Pint, all to some extent.

@Michael Stott: You're all gravy.

@Mephistophanes: Yeah, I think you're right, it was those Drealmerz 'games'. Time to shudder hard and purge my brains again.

Your first sentence implies we're a TR, "gravy" implies mixed feelings though, clarify for me?

~Blah

It's all Gravy, like it's all Good.
I'm from the deep South
It's all G


-V

Bruh where
Wouldn’t really be able to meet up anytime soon but it’d be cool to know what state you live in
-Emerald Dog

Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
It'd be cool to meet up or hang out with other scummers. I coincidentally landed in a city in Florida for a year where another scummer lived and we kicked it from time to time, was very cool.

-V

[Michael Scott]

Just got back into the game and saw this, what do you mean?

Taly and Varsoon signing their posts redundantly, while the STW hydra refuses to do so.

~Jimothy

r/woosh.

-Turicchio.

It’s whoooosh. With 4 o’s. Also I might post this to r/ihavereddit, though I’d prolly wait til the game ends
-dlaremE ammaG

It's actually woooosh, no 'h'.

~Jim

[Shoshin the worst]

Quack. So much shitposting.
Should we wait for nullslots to do something?

~ Shoshin

[u r a person 2]

7. pinturucchio town

While I'm not ready to go all-in on pintu, this is the only read on your list I need to request an explanation for. Thank you.

~A50

I thought he was tunneling on me really hard (there's a big post in my iso all about this read you should look at, says pintu right at the top) in a way that I've seen town do far more often than not. Since then he hasn't really tunneled me which mitigates that read, but at the same time I haven't seen anything to give me an active scum read, so still town

[Mewtaph]

VOTE: Alchemist21

Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?

What answer were you expecting here?

It was an open ended question, so I wasn't expecting any answer in particular.

I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.

I didn't like the initial voting on UP2 when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting Michael Scott to explain why he thought UP2's posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on Nico. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like "where's the scum at"?

:/ I get my vote on Kokichi contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?

I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

Mmm, yes. This is how I feel too.

I'm not taking Pint having to push his content back as scum indicative but I'm saying it would've been bad if posts along those lines continued, which I guess is pointless now.

[u r a person 2]

Oh, and also much respect to UR2 for redeeming himself in my eyes. I would be first to acknowledge I'm stubborn and it's hard to change my mind on someone I SR early on (unless there was a mechanical reason to change that read), so UR2 managing to do just that without a mechanical reason is impressive.

golly thanks for the shout out <3

Why are you assigning rigid probabilities to things anyways?
-A very tired Emerald, who is probably gonna stop for the night.

I say right in the post that I don't assign numerical values. example was just for explanation. =)

[Shoshin the worst]

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

How so?

[Shoshin the worst]

AC is town and I think my deepwolf paranoia theory is fading.

[NicoRobin]

VOTE: Shoshin

[ProFlavor]

Quack. So much shitposting.
Should we wait for nullslots to do something?

~ Shoshin

I'm going to get myself in a tunnel but here is how I'm reading this:

There is a tunnel on STW and a large proportion of players are saying the gamestate is full of towny dudes - so there is no where for a counter wagon to form - therefore "should we wait for nullslots to do something" could equal "can we wait for the nullslots to do something scummy to take heat off me, as yet, there is no where for people to create a sensible wagon and I'm in a bit of a pickle"


FL said he will catch up soon so I'm just going to let that happen before I go as far as voting/diving down this tunnel, otherwise I would have already.

~ woof

[Mephistophanes 39]

I am in this game.

I believe you.

Why again? I wanted to replace later. Instead I got shangaied into this.

“Why again “ what?

Unhappy about something?

Baa, baa, black shiiiipppp

VOTE: Shoshin

Are you ever planning on answering my freaking question?

[NicoRobin]

Yes. I am unhappy about being forced to play when I wanted to be a replacement.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Yes. I am unhappy about being forced to play when I wanted to be a replacement.

Why do you care so much about being a replacement?

And why didn’t you just tell Krazy that?

~N

[NicoRobin]

I clearly said '/in to replace' in the sign-up thread.......