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Post Post #1767 (isolation #200) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:49 am

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If he claims cop he is the obvious lynch. Use your head. His predecessor would have obviously spoken up already and got me lynched easily. This is obviously a newly subbed in player who doesn't fully understand the mechanics of the game and might have missed that there cannot be a cop at this stage and therefore slipped up.
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Post Post #1770 (isolation #201) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:58 am

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I have been telling you guys DVA and DLA is scum since say back. Now bbmolla made it easy. I dont expect a reply soon from him. He needs to read up and consult his mafia team.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #202) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:01 am

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VOTE: bbmolla
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #203) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 1773, Something_Smart wrote:Also, stop talking about what we will or won't do if BBmolla claims cop. Let him explain himself first.
I was going to ask who he investigated but it's too late now. The lack of response is enough for me.
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #204) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:08 am

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Are you reading my posts? It's too late.
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #205) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:16 am

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Because he soft claimed cop and also said he was going to investigate me. Which proves he didnt know that if he's cop, it confirms me as scum, until auro pointed it out.

DLA was around when I "confirmed there cannot be a priest in the game" multiple times. You think me vs DLA was TvT?
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #206) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:18 am

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With three scum in the game, it's not like scum won't be informed to retract the cop claim or twist it.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #207) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:19 am

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I think auro is immortal btw.
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #208) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:58 am

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Immortal is a mafia role.
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #209) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:59 am

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In post 1799, BBmolla wrote:Can we please be smart and just ignore my soft claim like you’re supposed to do until I actually claim
Nope. Cannot ignore scum slip.
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Post Post #1843 (isolation #210) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:08 pm

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VOTE: bbmolla

Literal scum slip. Malakittys defense of him is also a bit suspicious. But then again she's proven with her posts she doesnt understand the mechanics and what is going on in the game. So not sure.
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #211) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 pm

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Oh, wait, who'd you get a guilty on bbmolla? Lol yeah right. You ain't cop. As I said, there's no cop left in the game.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #212) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:23 pm

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Reading the top of page 73 is weird. Bbmolla says nothing about a fake claim but malakitty is super defensive and acting as if he is fake claiming. Even saying he fake claims as town. (Again, bbmolla didnt say anything about faking).

Auro then has to spell out to her why exactly bbmolla needs to claim. She then just tries to brush it away by saying she's losing brain cells, even though she is the one that is clearly wrong and has no idea. But the weird part how does malakitty know bbolla fake claimed while he didnt say he fake claimed?

Also what's weird is rb even encouraging him not to claim. This is either the worst scum team ever of rb/malakitty/bbmolla, or we have 1 or 2 troll town in these 3. But if bb flips scum (which he will). We can def go malakitty next.
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #213) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 1849, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
I don't think the way BBmolla played that is more likely to come from scum. If he was scum planning to fakeclaim cop, he'd have just done it, and if he was scum who had planned to fakeclaim cop but then realized that his claim was a direct CC to Lamees, he'd have hard retracted the claim and said it was a joke.
We don't know what scum bbmolla would do. Whatever alignment he is he has faked and we need answers.

And why does scum malakitty defend town bbmolla?
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #214) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:51 am

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In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
Disagree.
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #215) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:02 am

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If you look at creatures last post, it definitely adds to bbmolla suspicion. The angle he was pushing was to go further into the claim.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #216) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:57 pm

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In post 1795, Creature wrote:
In post 1760, BBmolla wrote:Let’s just lynch Thor so I can get a
guilty report on Lamees
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #217) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:02 pm

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Tbh bbmolla slot was the D1 lynch too but then that whole exchange between rb and the slot. And all of a sudden everything was forgotten lol.

Anyways by the looks of how this is going we again will get a no lynch. I think another approach is to policy lynch succint. It's almost as if that slot is open trolling or is scum. Creature was correct. Someone was bored and made an alt to troll the game.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #218) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:11 am

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In post 1879, rb wrote:yes they might be a troll but are they scum
It's possible
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #219) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:28 pm

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In post 1888, Malakitty wrote:Idk I just despise how we are basically D2 all over in D3 and there’s people stating we will vote XYZ and we no lynched
Hopefully your health and schedule will be good D3 so we can actually lynch you :lol:
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #220) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:40 am

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We don't need more scattered votes at the moment.
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #221) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:54 pm

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Quoting posts and attaching scum reasons to them are easy. But it just looks silly when they're wrong. For example, 1765 was to see if he was actually claiming cop. Had he claimed to investigate someone on night 1 it would have confirmed to me he's fake claiming.

In the beginning of day 2 (way before BB even joined the game) I specifically pointed out multiple times to DLA and everyone that I can confirm there's no cop in the game right now.

VOTE: succint
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #222) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:56 pm

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And there's always going to be posts that look like active lurking in a very lurky player base when I myself am a pretty active player. Case is garbage and clearly scum driven.
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #223) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:09 pm

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...i repeat, I said myself way before BBmolla even joined the game that I CAN CONFIRM THERE IS NO COP.

My post/question to BBmolla about who he inveatigated was a test.
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #224) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:13 pm

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Actually nvm, I agree. Lynch me so I can smite this unholy *censored*

VOTE: Lamees
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #225) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:19 pm

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Actually rb is right for once. I will be cleared based on claims. Let's be honest here I'm already clear, and we only have 7 ascension points in-game. If scum are brave and decide to only counter claim in LyLo that could be a bit problematic because we have players like bbmolla who fake claim and somehow still alive.

So my confidence in this town pool is not that great atm. Sorry if I seem rude, it's just the last game I finished I had such an amazing town pool, we lynched scum D1 and D2 and we won easily, so in comparison is a bit frustrating.
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #226) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:25 pm

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In post 1925, BBmolla wrote:
Lamees (L-3)
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In post 1920, Lamees wrote:Actually nvm, I agree. Lynch me so I can smite this unholy *censored*

VOTE: Lamees
You’re one of the worst players I’ve ever encountered.
This is totally not like omgus-y or anything but even before you joined this game, I often use you as a reference on bad town play in my games. That one newbie game you lost us always scars me forever (since it was like my second game that I subbed in). After your play in that game you should consider making a new account and abandoning the BBmolla account...
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #227) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:40 pm

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What are you compromising on?
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #228) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:59 pm

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I think the least we can do is try to get a lynch.

VOTE: thor665
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #229) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:17 am

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Two "no lynch" in a row. I can see it coming :lol:
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #230) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 1952, BBmolla wrote:Please do whatever you can to kill me or inno me Lamees ty
The role cards are on page 1, I got angel.
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #231) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:45 am

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I'll assume there are 7 points in the game. Which puts mafia at 4.
My predictions on scum power roles:
-Immortal (2 points)
-Ghost (2 points)
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #232) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:27 am

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Because you've been dodging prods and playing the game with a troll mindset.
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #233) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:44 am

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How does getting lost in disney world for like 4 days have any alignment indications a all
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #234) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:20 am

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Egix I have to confess I opted to shoot you last night. But they didn't night kill me. Don't ask why. Just ponder about that fact.
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #235) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:32 am

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Auro, ss, anyone. Hammer please.
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #236) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 1972, Auro wrote:I'm not hammering a townread, and it looks *obvious* to me how the scumteam is pushing for lynches and setting up future mislynches.

Lamees, you scumread Mala and RB, right? What does that say about their Thor push?
This is not a joke, I scum read everyone. I tried and I cannot put together a decent case on anyone as to why they're town.

So right now I need more info. I can work with a thor lynch, or anyone else's lynch. But no lynch again would be the final nail in the coffin.
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #237) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:12 pm

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There's this role called immortal.
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #238) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 1983, rb wrote:oh wtf it doesnt kill immortal
What... I've been preaching about immortal since day 1.
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Post Post #2006 (isolation #239) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:33 pm

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Egix what's your read on Malakit
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #240) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:06 pm

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There's not enough numbers for that CFD thing you're trying nako lol. Sad.

I guess it's the current wagon or no lynch. Make your choice egix.
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #241) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:10 am

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Not dead anymore. It's now L-2
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #242) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:59 am

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VOTE: nako
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #243) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:14 pm

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Time is ticking. I think nako is an ok lynch. Better than nothing.
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #244) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:57 pm

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In post 2076, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1370, Something_Smart wrote:It hasn't changed that much, here is my most recent scumgame. I replaced in late but it's still pretty representative of how I play.
I think Lamees is town, irrespective of the fact that scum know town's roles, angel is a bad fakeclaim and I thought the way she played around the claim was genuine.
I have a confession, on night 1 elected to venge kill you were I night killed. Egix night 2. It sucks because now that I read day 3 you and egix actually had the most faith in me as town. Fortunately I wasn't night killed on those 2 nights.
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Post Post #2091 (isolation #245) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:56 am

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Nako's getting lynched, there's nothing we can do about it. You probably know this. If nako flips town I guess that gives you plenty of town points.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #246) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:01 am

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This is just screaming for a no lynch.

VOTE: malakitty
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Post Post #2111 (isolation #247) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:31 pm

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It's ok it'll be no lynch.
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #248) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:26 am

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Lol
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #249) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:29 am

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All 5 townies need to be voting for the same scum player.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #250) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:13 pm

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If he is town, scum don't even need to bus. They have the numbers. Why would they lessen their chances of winning by bussing today.
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #251) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:52 am

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Idk, he said he's willing to change vote. We'll see.

Since everyone is probably gonna claim VT can you tell me your best case scenario
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Post Post #2147 (isolation #252) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:16 am

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Remember when bbmolla claimed cop.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #253) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:38 am

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So we have 3 options.

-1 No lynch
-2 Lynch scum
-3 Lynch me and I can kill scum

The way this game went we can forget about ever lynching scum. So option 1 or 3 is looking the most reasonable.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #254) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:38 am

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VOTE: lamees
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #255) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:14 am

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In post 2150, Something_Smart wrote:
Lamees (L-3)
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Ruby Red
Immortal is a huge issue though.

How confident are you in your ability to hit scum?
You already know random dot org is the way I'm going.
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #256) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:16 am

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In post 2151, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2147, Lamees wrote:Remember when bbmolla claimed cop.
You think that's why he died?
That's not a reason for him dying since scum know the roles, and would have already known he was faking.
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #257) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:37 am

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In post 2155, Something_Smart wrote:I guess it could be because they thought he was a different PR, but idk what that could be.

Guess we'll see how massclaim goes.
I don't think so. They know I'm angel so them killing him had nothing to do with power role.
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #258) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:19 am

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Plenty of days left. We can try to scum hunt.

Also let's leave the nominating part. Anyone should just claim when they post. Egix what's your role?
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Post Post #2167 (isolation #259) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:45 am

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Did you have any comments when bbmolla faked?
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #260) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 2168, Something_Smart wrote:Okay.

Time for some math.

Spoiler: Skip this if you don't like math
First of all, if a 3-point role is picked last, the probability is just all the role probabilities multiplied together, because any role was available until the end.
If a 1-point or 2-point role is picked last, the final probability must be modified because 3-point roles (and possibly 2-point roles) weren't available to pick last.

Probability of getting Priest/Witch Hunter/Angel with 7 points:
2 ways with Priest last: 2 * (20/100 * 10/100 * 25/100)
2 ways with Witch Hunter last: 2 * (25/100 * 10/100 * 20/60)
2 ways with Angel last: 2 * (25/100 * 20/100 * 10/60)
(These last two work out to be the same.)
Total probability = 1/100 + 1/60 + 1/60 = 13/300.

Probability of getting Priest/Witch Hunter/Angel/Trickster with 8 points:
6 ways with Priest last: 6 * (20/100 * 10/100 * 10/100 * 25/100)
6 ways with Witch Hunter last: 6 * (25/100 * 10/100 * 10/100 * 20/60)
6 ways with Angel last: 6 * (25/100 * 20/100 * 10/100 * 10/60)
6 ways with Trickster last: 6 * (25/100 * 20/100 * 10/100 * 10/20)

Total probability = 3/1000 + 1/200 + 1/200 + 3/200 = 7/250.

Probability that the setup includes a trickster, given that it includes a priest, witch hunter, and angel = (7/250) / (13/300 + 7/250) = 39.3%.

It'd be nice if someone else mathematically inclined could check my work, although the exact number doesn't matter that much.

The probability of Egix's claim being true, assuming Lamees' claim is true and all else is equal, is 39.3%. This does ignore the probability that Egix would fakeclaim it, but I think this assumes that she would always fakeclaim it if the setup is Priest/Witch Hunter/Angel, which at the very least is not a ridiculous assumption.

So Lamees, if you do want to throw out all reads and leave it completely up to chance, the best option by far would be to hang Egix, which would in a vacuum give us a 60.7% chance of hitting scum.

That said, I still don't like that idea. Given that a random person from my POV has a 42.9% chance of being scum, and that raises to 50.0% if I assume that Lamees is town (as I have done in my calculations), I'd bet that my top scumread has a better than 60.7% chance of being scum.
Who is your top scum read?
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #261) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:44 pm

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I'm fine with an auro lynch too.

And scum have daytalk right? So by me leaving my vote on myself was a big risk of getting hamered since it's L-3 with 3 scum. But they haven't hammered yet. Succint/nako/red possible scum members.
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #262) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #263) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:27 pm

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Egixs claim is as good as vanilla, cant really believe him.

Post 2155 from s_s does seem strange... but it's almost too strange... as if it cannot come from town. But wouldnt come from scum either.
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Post Post #2179 (isolation #264) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:30 pm

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Yeah, my theory is that there is no trickster. And upon seeing s_s and myself discussing the night kill, the scum team decided to claim trickster to set him up with what is obvious tmi from s_s.

Wild theory, I know.
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Post Post #2180 (isolation #265) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:32 pm

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So either that stretch of a theory happened or s_s is scum and slipped hard. Or, s_s is town and psychic.
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #266) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:36 pm

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In post 2176, Succinct wrote:
Incidentally, I believe Egix's claim as he had no incentive to claim this as scum.
This reason is a bit shaky. Feels forced.
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #267) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:42 pm

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In post 2182, Something_Smart wrote:I didn't even believe 2155, I still don't. Scum don't try to kill commuters. I was literally just trying to think of why BBmolla might possibly have died given that I (and I think most people) thought he was a pretty decent scum possibility.
Seem you knew there was one power role hiding (apparently egix). Which only scum would know. Can't you at least vaguely see what succinct is pointing out there?
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #268) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:21 am

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Egix what were your thoughts/comments on bbmolla's semi fake claim?
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #269) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:31 am

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Possible. He was the one to hard defend the thor (now red) wagon. While stating "no resistance". But when you look back, it was players like bbmolla and malakitty, me, and other town read players. Well I know two already flipped town so yes that wagon could have actually been all town.
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Post Post #2198 (isolation #270) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 2196, Egix96 wrote:
In post 2194, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2189, Auro wrote:The weird NK actually points to town!Me here, since scum!Me would *always* rather kill Red especially after she said she's reconsidering her read on me.
Unless if you two are partners...
Heh, no s*** Sherlock!

But I actually find that hard to believe considering that Thor and Auro spent several pages attacking each other's play... would you say I'm wrong for thinking those interactions were strictly not w/w?
It's not out of their range at all
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #271) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:23 pm

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Think that happens when you missclick the Q+ in the corner. Probably not alignment indicative :P
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Post Post #2204 (isolation #272) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:23 pm

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Unless you are immortal. Which is one of my theories.
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #273) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:14 pm

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In post 2205, Auro wrote:
In post 2203, Lamees wrote:Think that happens when you missclick the Q+ in the corner. Probably not alignment indicative :P
Yeah that's my theory as well. Should've previewed first haha.
Why do you believe I'm immortal?
Just a feeling. Can't really explain it. Even if I tried.
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #274) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:16 pm

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I'm just gonna sheep rb. Since scum took away his sheep, which makes me think he's town. Or maybe he took away his sheep himself so that we can think he. No nvm, can't wifom over that at this point. Will have to commit to a town read since he last posts do look town.
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #275) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:22 pm

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In post 2227, Auro wrote:You said Something_Smart's lurking was diff from Nako's, and he exhibited pro-town behaviors, elaborate?

What's the scum strategy in deliberately voting vanity wagons continuously?
You need to elaborate why you'd even ask this. Does s_s lurking (if you can even call his play lurking) seem similar to nakos lurking?
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #276) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:48 pm

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Succinct did say he was willing to switch to auro or s_s.

I can definitely see nako and auro as a pair. But I don't see succinct in there with them. So who is the third?
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #277) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:55 pm

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Wow so true imo
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #278) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:00 am

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Why not egix
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #279) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:18 am

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Well from what I've seen today. S_S, succinct, rb, lamees is willing to lynch and scum read auro. We need 5 so there is egix/red/nako who can join. I already suspect nako wont join (since scum) and will either just lurk and try to ignore the wagon, or will give useless reason like she soul reads him to be town... But there should be a town in egix and red so it might be possible.

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Post Post #2250 (isolation #280) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:34 am

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Auro (L-4)
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Auro, Nako, rb, Egix96, Something_Smart,
Ruby Red
In post 2248, Auro wrote:Why am I scum? Because I'm trying to sort Nako and not sheeping RB? That's a ridiculous reason.
That's not why you're scum. It's just PoE I'm using. If it's not rb/ss/succinct to me, it can only be you and nako, and then one of red/egix. S_s can also be the third but less likely.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #281) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:43 am

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In post 2251, Auro wrote:Why can't it be Succint?
He was willing to lynch ss and you. He was also siding with malakitty/bbmolla/rb, 2 of whom are proven town by flip. Doesnt make sense that his scum to me.
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #282) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:50 am

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In post 2257, Auro wrote:He was willing to lynch me because I'm town and it's a mislynch. Your argument for him being town relies on me being scum, and me being scum that I'm in your PoE where he's town.

Circular Logic, Lamees. He was siding with them ON lynching me, which is circular again, and YOU were his top scumread both times. If I'm town OF COURSE it'd make sense for him to be scum.
The previous slot was leodanny who I town read too. Yes succinct was mostly trolling and pushing for my lynch since he joined the game, but that doesnt mean he is scum.
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #283) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:54 am

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In post 2256, rb wrote:okay, so

you want nako/auro + red/egix?
Auro + nako scum team. + 1 other. Probably red or egix
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #284) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:58 am

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In post 2258, Auro wrote:And considering SS is in your townpool, Succint wanting to lynch SS - how on earth is that town?
Town wanting to lynch town doesn't indicate scum.
Since it's this late in the game. I have to form a base then PoE the rest. Want do you want exactly? A 100% proven scum case? So all scum has to do is not claim scum or scum slip. And they win every game?

You were on all town lynches so far, so either your reasoning is nothing to brag about or you're scum. So my reasoning doesnt need to make sense to you.
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #285) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:01 am

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I'm working with what I got here. Sure, rb can be scum too, everyone can still be scum. But eventually I have to commit to something to progress the game. So while I could be wrong about rb (since my day 1 I read him as scum) I still have to make a decision and go for it. I feel he is more likely town because of the flips and recent posts.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #286) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:03 am

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Scum can avoid looking scummy easily. Does that mean they are town? Not sure what you are looking for here auro.
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #287) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:34 am

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You started that wall off wrong though. I don't see how town wanting to lynch another town is scum indicative.

You said I town read succinct and s_s. And that since succinct wanting to lynch s_s should indicate that he isnt town. How? How would succinct know or agree with my town read of s_s?

Your exchange with every slot isnt being painted as w/w. But thor/you engagement could be w/w, the argument I've seen against this is that there was no reason to wall post like that as w/w because scum were in a good position, and the wall war would just attract attention. I disagree with this. 1) thor/you engagement was very early in game. Before the lynch of towns witch hunter and the crappy no lynch. 2) you saved the slot from a lynch. And you always preach about how you'd prefer any lynch over no lynch as town. So what happened there?

Also you can make cases. You're misrepping big time here by saying my reactions to your cases.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #288) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:39 am

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In post 2267, Auro wrote:
This is textbook confirmation bias, unless you're willing to consider me town and work out who could be scum, and THEN evaluate what's believable and what's not. And before you call me defensive, we need to get ALL three scum *without* a single mislynch in successive days - it's important to me that while I solve for scum I also disband wild W/W theories y'all throw out.

Engage in good faith?
This is what I did. I considered different players town and went off interactions and reads.

Which ends up as you and nako.

You are the one wanted to have conf town/conf scum. You tried to force my town considerations off as ridiculous.

I already considered you town, but ok let's consider you town again. Then who is scum?
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #289) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:45 am

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In post 2270, Auro wrote:"Town wanting to lynch another town"
How do you KNOW the former here is town? You don't, right? Why can't I be town wanting to lynch town!Malakitty in D2?
This is not what happened lol. It's on the same page dude, and maybe some on the previous page.

You said:
If succinct and s_s are both town reads, how can succinct wanting to lynch s_s be town.

That reads to me as though succinct cannot be a town read because he wanted to lynch another town read.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #290) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:50 am

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In post 2270, Auro wrote:
You're acknowledging Succint/Me isn't W/W then
I acknowledge it's unlikely. Especpecially the part where he wanted to call you on your bluff, or something like that. Not impossible though.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #291) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:54 am

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In post 2273, Auro wrote:That's because you said "He's willing to lynch Auro/SS" in your first line when I asked why he's town.
Yes, I'm saying willingness to lynch shouldn't be reason to call someone town; and willingness to lynch a slot you townread definitely shouldn't.
Yeah my bad. Miscommunication. Not a fan of wallposting so I kept it short.

To elaborate on that, him showing willingness to lynch ss and you (one of my scum reads) gives him townie points because it shows he isnt just troll tunneling me, it'll be easy for scum just to have one safe scum read that never gets lynched. Because they wasted the entire game doing nothing.
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #292) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:57 am

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In post 2275, Auro wrote:If we lynch Succint today successfully, will you reconsider your scumread on me tomorrow then?
Possibly. But 1) I don't think he is scum. Are you expecting 4 players to join you?
2) if he does flip scum, after this kind of post how can see it as anything but bussing?

It's as if you know he'll flip scum and literally asking for town cred for lynching him
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #293) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:58 am

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In post 2277, Auro wrote:Oh, okay then. So you meant he wasn't tunnelled purely on my slot, and that's town indicative? Okay, fair; but I think the rest of the evidence points to scum!him.
Well he is still tunnelled on my slot. But is willing to vote ss or you. So not super tunnelled. If that makes sense.
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #294) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:08 am

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In post 2281, Auro wrote:
In post 2279, Lamees wrote:Well he is still tunnelled on my slot. But is willing to vote ss or you. So not super tunnelled. If that makes sense.
It's pretty easy for scum to have a lynchpool of three people where at least two of those are town.
In this case, you and me.
But he was willing to lynch s_s over malakitty yesterday (going on memory here). The part where you said you could lynch s_s and he said he is gonna sheep you to "call you out on your bluff"? Was the lynch ss or nako? Need to go reread that.
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #295) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:11 am

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Can you see why it starts to not really make sense.. which is why I concluded it's you and nako. That at least makes sense.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #296) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:12 am

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Well it makes sense if succinct is town and s_s is scum
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Post Post #2288 (isolation #297) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:40 am

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So he is saying you're bluffing but you are saying he's bluffing.
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Post Post #2290 (isolation #298) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:55 am

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Is it vanity if he was willing to lynch ss today too. Doesnt that make it more likely that he was serious.
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Post Post #2292 (isolation #299) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:06 am

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Are you saying he is willing to bus his scum budsy
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #300) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:09 am

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In post 2293, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2207, Ruby Red wrote:i would scumread myself, playing pretty lazily.
I don't know what to make of this post in MYLO.
Lol never noticed that. It is pretty bad for mylo
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Post Post #2296 (isolation #301) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:13 am

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In post 2295, Auro wrote:
In post 2292, Lamees wrote:Are you saying he is willing to bus his scum budsy
Of course. I argued this earlier, no? Given many slots are potential lynches, as scum I'd not post an all-town lynchpool since if it happens that scum get lynched, I get towncred from it + if I get lynched, my townreads get cleared. So for scum it makes sense to bus at least one of their buddies; since on the off chance one of them gets lynched the other gets towncred.

Agree?
But it can't be a vanity vote if he was willing to lynch the slot, so not a bluff then. And if he was willing to lynch ss today and yesterday then that is more likely town not w/w
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #302) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:11 am

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Everyone has auro in their scumpool somewhere. This isn't coincidence. Let's just go for it.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #303) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:47 am

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Auro your substance isn't really substance though. You basically look who the player is scum reading/willing to lynch. Then if it's you or a player you don't want lynched, you claim they are pushing a mislynch. If it's another player you scum read, you claim they are bussing.
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #304) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:49 am

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VOTE: no lynch
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #305) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:50 am

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Scum will narrow it down for us. If they choose not to NK, we no lynch again. I'll accept the draw.
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Post Post #2344 (isolation #306) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:20 am

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We have 2 dead players so not like we can get a lynch.
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Post Post #2345 (isolation #307) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:22 am

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s_s / auro / egix are you willing to lynch succinct?
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Post Post #2349 (isolation #308) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:32 am

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Nako and red are dead, as in inactive.
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Post Post #2352 (isolation #309) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 2350, Something_Smart wrote:
No one (L-4)
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I'm willing to lynch Succinct.
Ok so if egix and auro are too, then we might actually be able to get a lynch.
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #310) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:58 pm

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In post 2352, Lamees wrote:
In post 2350, Something_Smart wrote:
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Succinct (L-4)
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Something_Smart (L-4)
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Auro, Nako, Egix96, Something_Smart,
Ruby Red
I'm willing to lynch Succinct.
Ok so if egix and auro are too, then we might actually be able to get a lynch.
So succint/nako and?
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #311) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:45 am

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VOTE: succinct

That's 5 so get voting.
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Post Post #2379 (isolation #312) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:11 am

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Ggs. Ah, so nako and red were town. Well we fucked either way then. Auro also obvious immortal :P
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #313) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 2368, Egix96 wrote:Meme on me!
Lol it's cool, we wouldnt have been able to get an auro lynch even if you did sheep me. Nako/red or their subs wouldn't have a feel for the game at this point so doubt theyd co-ordinate with us. And succinct was in his own world. And obviously we wouldnt be able to convince rb/s_s as they are his team mates.
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #314) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:11 am

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Even though I town read succinct it was time to put everyone out of their misery, instead of drag it on for another few weeks.
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #315) » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:12 am

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I like the setup though, MDS lmk if you ever decide to run this again.
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