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Post Post #1747  (isolation #200)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:26 pm

VC says that my vote was 194, but mine came in ISO 140.

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Post Post #1748  (isolation #201)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:26 pm

I do like the hyperlinks to where the vote was, I'm just confused about the numbering, since it doesn't seem to line up exactly.

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Post Post #1750  (isolation #202)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:30 pm

In post 1749, Shoshin the worst wrote:Auro did a thing I don't think scum!Auro does. Gonna treat Michael like they're town for now and reassess later if I need to.


You gonna share with the class or...?


Also, ever gonna expand on that Taly read from before?

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Post Post #1751  (isolation #203)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:30 pm

In post 177, Shoshin the worst wrote:if you could give taly a quick ISO then ctrl+f "taly" in our iso I think you'll get the gist of it. I'm not fully ready to reveal what we've picked up on QUITE yet.



...ready now?

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Post Post #1753  (isolation #204)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:31 pm

In post 501, Shoshin the worst wrote:In response to your concerns, Varsoon:

2. the worst has a long history of holding back his reasoning on reads until much later in the game (e.g. in Labyrinth where he gave a read on D1, then refused to explain that read until somewhere around D4), and I often hold back reasoning as well for shorter stretches of time to test reactions. In Taly's case, we've discussed his behavior/meta extensively in our hydra PM and promise everything will be explained before end of D1.


-the worst & Shoshin



...before the end of D1?

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Post Post #1755  (isolation #205)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:33 pm

In post 719, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 713, Varsoon wrote:onsidering just PoEing the game around you or suggesting a policy lynch.

For the hundred billionth time, we are not ready to explain our taly read yet. I'm sorry if this is genuinely so vexing to you that it's paralysing you from doing anything else. But we're not gonna compromise our chance to sort the slot.



...mmmm.
Still waiting.

P-EDIT: Can you link to where you explained it? I'm digging your ISO 'cus apparently I missed it, ay.


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Post Post #1756  (isolation #206)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:34 pm

In post 996, Shoshin the worst wrote:
In post 43, Taly wrote::D so much opportunity to get pocketed!!

._. im gonna have to reread that playerlist movement night action stuff arent i?

not feeling the kokichi IC claim but i slight townvibe it anyway

VOTE: Almost Chara

RVS is bullshit but square up w me, both heads now

~ Taly

Taly's RVS post is what originally scumpinged me.
I don't think he's really done anything outside his scumrange (not anything particularly towny). Taly do you disagree? If I'm grossly misreading you here, help me see where I'm wrong. A lot your defence of yourself & probing of other slots has kind of skated around the centre; the way you do as scum (e.g. PYPX/Y).

> the pocketed comment & the thing wrt rereading playerlist movement just feels forced and stiff. I think there's a hesitation in Taly's tonality through the thread, so far, which I can't not notice.
> the comment about not feeling Kokichi's IC claim but townvibing it is absolutely bizarre. I can see this coming from someone who played SCM1 and liked the laissez-faire comedic entry to the thread but I literally can't see any reason to be townpinged by Kokichi lolclaiming IC and then lurking it out. This doesn't feel like critical reading so much as an agenda/TMI'd read and I think it's the kind of slip-up scum do make while still in RVS.
> RVS bullshit thing is incredibly forced (fwiw voting AC in rvs doesn't seem beneficial to me but I feel like I'm the only person onsite who enjoys RVS for content)



Is it really just "His RVS post scumpinged me."
Like
Is that really why you were so evasive on taking a hard scumread there early?

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Post Post #1760  (isolation #207)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:39 pm

So you lied about having a hard scumread there because you wanted Taly's posts to be more organic?

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Post Post #1761  (isolation #208)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:39 pm

Why even say anything at all, then?

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Post Post #1762  (isolation #209)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:41 pm

Don't you think Taly's posts would be even more unbiased if you hadn't claimed a scumread on the slot or been elusive about saying why you were scumreading it?

If you had just straightforwardly addressed what was scummy (I'm still not even sure what post 'scumpinged' you), that seems like the proper way of doing things.

It really seems like you just made up a reason to have what seemed like an informed read, and then used that to position re: a townslot you knew you could drag down.

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Post Post #1765  (isolation #210)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:45 pm

So, if you scumread those posts, why didn't you just say so right away and push Taly over it?

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Post Post #1768  (isolation #211)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:47 pm

I 100% would have approached it differently.
If you're town here, being furtive is literally what drew my shot to you.
Why would you be anything besides straightforward and transparent in your methods when there's a MOD CONFIRMED vigilante in the setup?

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Post Post #1772  (isolation #212)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:53 pm

I thought you were scum.
The last time that someone I had a scumread on pulled the same sort of "I have a scumread but won't explain why" stuff, I really wanted them lynched over it but they got away with it, replaced out, and their replacement went on to win the game because no one would listen to me.

Now that I have the power to stamp out players who I think are scum, I'm going to use it.

I'm not great at convincing people of things. More than one player has expressed why my points on you aren't convincing. It's really disheartening and I was hoping that I'd at least get to exert some level of control over the game before eating the NK.

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Post Post #1778  (isolation #213)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:03 pm

It's not the only bit of umbrage I took with how ya'll have been approaching the game.
OF COURSE I'm going to be hyper-critical of your slot; you both just pulled a fucking win on me in a game where neither of you should've and I folded over on my judgment because I figured, "Fuck me, I can be wrong sometimes, I'm probably wrong here; everyone's telling me I'm wrong, I shouldn't die on this mountain."

And OF COURSE you're going to both be hyper-aware of how you JUST PLAYED in SC1, since there's so many people here who are coming from that game.

I really can't townread how either of you have played; both as a unit and as individuals here. It's too calculated, too posturing, too 'have an answer for everything'. I don't like how the wagons have interacted in regards to the early buildup on you, the slough off, and how hard it's been to reignite a wagon on you. It's wild. It just doesn't feel right to me.

There's a lot of things, but end of the day, I've got a lot of confident townreads and you're my most confident scumread.
S'why I'm stuck on you like this.
Sorry if I fucked up or got tilted.

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Post Post #1779  (isolation #214)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:03 pm

Why would you shoot proflavor?
I've really liked their posts.

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Post Post #1786  (isolation #215)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:14 pm

Nah. man, just fuckin' lay down an indisputable towngame, STW. That's all you had to do. But you came in here and scummed it up.

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Post Post #1790  (isolation #216)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:19 pm

In post 1745, Varsoon wrote:Why's JJH a better wagon now?

Also, I could drop like 20 scumtells right now, want me to?
Tells are garbage, meta's unreliable in forum mafia, etc. etc.
I'm the dude that got banned for making it reliable
You think people would listen to me on that point

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I don't know if you ever addressed this, Mephisto
People are listening.
Make your case.

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Post Post #1799  (isolation #217)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:29 pm

I'll just shoot that slot tomorrow, then.

People are trying to swing a deadline lynch onto Kokichi while there's no outstanding votes on the wagon.
It's not going to go through.
Compromise onto STW or a wagon that's already got votes, please.
Otherwise, we get no lynch.


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Post Post #1800  (isolation #218)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:31 pm

I do buy that Nico was legit upset over having been put into a game that they /in to replace for

As for the other stuff, that's all good rationale for why Nico slot should be shot if JJH can't clear.

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Post Post #1806  (isolation #219)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 pm

Do we even have the 8 active players to drive a lynch there, STW?
That's what I'm saying.

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Post Post #1807  (isolation #220)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:34 pm

If Taly reps out, we're in a different situation.

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Post Post #1810  (isolation #221)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:39 pm

I would prioritize it as
STW > NicoSlot > Koki > No Lynch

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Post Post #1816  (isolation #222)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:41 pm

Do ya'll mean ProFlavor?
Nah, not lynching that D1.

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Post Post #1817  (isolation #223)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:41 pm

In post 1814, Shoshin the worst wrote:If this was like Echo Bay Grits SEO I'd vig Eraserhead right now fyi
:lol:


Pfft as if, I would've already put you in the dirt

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Post Post #1882  (isolation #224)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:21 pm

Ay so like
Can we get some actual votes, anyone?

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Post Post #1941  (isolation #225)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:38 am

We are not swinging a last-minute wagon on Proflavor.
That wagon does not have the vocal support for a majority vote.
Please stop supporting vanity wagons in the last 24 hours we have.


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Post Post #1950  (isolation #226)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:35 am

Big sigh
We can't let STW get away with this
If we do
They'll keep getting away with it
They'll just win again
Fuck all of you for letting that happen once
I'm not gonna let it happen again

I SHOT THEM
THEY DID NOT DIE

Come onnnnn
just lynch STW
Don't let them survive
Because I won't make it through the night
and it feels like I AM THE ONLY ONE fighting for their lynch
And I don't want to lose to those guys again
Ever

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Post Post #1954  (isolation #227)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:54 am

If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

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Post Post #1960  (isolation #228)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:16 pm

In post 1955, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 1954, Varsoon wrote:If I was a lyncher, the real vig would counter-claim and I'd be destroyed.

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The vig counter claiming you would be an awful move from the vig. But I don't think you're a lyncher; I've seen you tunnel like this. You're more lyncher than a lyncher.


Yeah, this is true.
The real defense I should prop versus lyncher spec is the setup is mod confirmed to only have town and scum in it.


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Post Post #2032  (isolation #229)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:54 pm

@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.

In post 1995, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 1941, Varsoon wrote:We are not swinging a last-minute wagon on Proflavor.
That wagon does not have the vocal support for a majority vote.
Please stop supporting vanity wagons in the last 24 hours we have.


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Well, I don’t like either Stw or Kokichi wagons.


I'm not asking you to like them, I'm asking you to compromise because otherwise we get no lynch.

In post 2005, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
Yes, at one point during - was it D2 or D3 of SC 1 - town!Varsoon actively tried to get me lynched and as we know now, that would have resulted in a mislynch.


Will you never drop the fact that I pushed for a lynch on town, as town, once? I even changed my mind RIGHTFULLY, too, so I don't get why you're so hung up on me being WRONG ONCE in a way that DID NOT EVEN AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME because we DID NOT LYNCH YOU and I CAME AROUND TO A CORRECT TOWNREAD ON YOU. I don't understand why this is something you keep bringing up over and over. Yeah, I'm sorry that I couldn't magically divine that you weren't scum the ENTIRE GAME that time because I was playing from a position of having barely information and based on the information I had, it looked like you were scum baiting me for awhile.

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Post Post #2057  (isolation #230)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:13 pm

In post 2034, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 2032, Varsoon wrote:@URAP2: Proflavor, by my count, only has 4 people who have vocalized support for the wagon. It's not going to happen within 8 hours. Put your vote to better use.

It def won't happen if I don't try ;P


You understand how a majority lynch works, right?
We won't get ANY lynch if everyone just decided to 'try' for their biggest scumreads right now.

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Post Post #2079  (isolation #231)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:52 pm

@Mephisto: My read here is informed by more than primarily rolespec and paranoia, for one, but you're right. There's no way I can KNOW that STW is or isn't scum here; that's the whole fucking game of mafia. I'm CONFIDENT in my read there and OTHER PEOPLE are SEEING WHAT I AM SEEING and I am not going to step back from MY MOST INFORMED AND CONFIDENT READ just because I might be wrong.

Moreover, how do you KNOW that you aren't just WRONG here and that you're willing to take A NO LYNCH over admitting that, maybe, you got it wrong this time?

Also, consider this;
I die tonight. There is no way I don't.
If I die and STW is still in the game, there's a chance of them making it to endgame.
If they endgame and win as scum, I will experience fury like none other.
I don't want that possibility to even be there.
I am that confident in my read and in their capacity to slither out of bullshit because everyone's so fucking resistant to lynching them for what I feel isn't any good moddamn reason.


Also I'm fuckin' pissed because the new Magic set just released and I'm not gonna get to play any sealed or limited events and I didn't get to do any pre-releases but I was hype to play limited events on MTG Arena and had 10,000 gold banked up and that'd be my afternoon but NO ALL THE FUCKING EVENTS THEY ARE RUNNING COST GEMS AND I'LL BE FUCKING DAMNED IF I SPEND ANY MONEY ON ARENA AFTER THEY SCREWED ME OVER WITH DUELS I SPENT 200 HOURS IN DUELS AND THEY JUST ABANDONED IT AUUGH

So anyway please vote STW
so we can have a lynch
And if they flip green, whatever, I'll give myself 1000 lashes or exile myself from site or whatever fucking pennance someone should do for being wrong in a fucking game but moddamn at least I stood by what I believed in for once.

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Post Post #2087  (isolation #232)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:00 pm

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Post Post #2097  (isolation #233)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:06 pm

If everyone not on one of the lead wagons would just take a position on one of the lead wagons, we'd have a lynch.

Almost Chara, I know you're here
Take a position.

Creature, I know you're here. Take a position.

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Post Post #2115  (isolation #234)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:22 pm

@Mephisto: The reaction they had to getting shot was really weird and the way they played around it strikes me as scum gambiting.
I'd still be scumreading them but I'd probably be more willing to compromise elsewhere but since they LITERALLY just taught me a lesson on why I shouldn't compromise when it comes to reading them, I'm a lot more confident in it.

@Creature: How do I play
Wait
How do I know you ain't runnin these moves thru a supercomputer
I mean
vote for someone in the lead wagons yeah

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Post Post #2116  (isolation #235)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:22 pm

^ That's a Var post

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Post Post #2258  (isolation #236)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:55 pm

In post 2191, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2189, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2188, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2179, u r a person 2 wrote:I'm driving and like a million pages behind. What are the vote counts on the wagons?


6 on Stw and 4 on Proflavor

7 on STW, Chara voted them and said it was L-1


So, use your head people, why does scum!Stw go out of their way to alienate Creature, when they know they’re the lead wagon?

In what world does this make sense if they’re scum here?


How does it make sense if they are town either?
Don't overthink that ish

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Post Post #2260  (isolation #237)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:55 pm

In post 2198, Shoshin the worst wrote:Varsoon's power driving a policy lynch because he can't read us and he's scared of us. Mewtaph's unvote is uhh relatableish

Otherwise this is a scum motivated wagon. Everyone town on it should feel bad tbh


I'm driving an informed lynch on you because you've been playing like scum all game.
Color it however the fuck you want that makes it easier for you to sleep at night.

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Post Post #2261  (isolation #238)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:57 pm

In post 2212, Shoshin the worst wrote:Varsoon is probably just town regardless of the vig claim. If his scumgame is positioning people as wolves and then repeatedly dehumanising them and kicking them in the guts after going off at people for dragging him to a failed Mylo in SC1 he's someone I'm very much not cool with rn


It's not 'dehumanizing' to case someone or be confident in scumreading someone.
I don't appreciate you appealing to Nancy with this sort of rhetoric, either.


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Post Post #2264  (isolation #239)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:58 pm

In post 2215, Shoshin the worst wrote:I'd rather us be lynched than no lynch so Varsoon is forced to pull his head out of his own arse so quickly he gets whiplash. :shifty:


I call it Next Level Whippits and you're not invited.

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Post Post #2272  (isolation #240)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 pm

YOU ARE ASKING ME TO FUCKING TEMP UNVOTE WHEN THERE ARE LITERALLY ONLY HOURS LEFT ON THE DEADLINE
NO
WE ARE NOT LYNCHING FLAVOR
WE ARE LYNCHING SHOSHIN
SEE HOW FUCKING UPHILL THEY'VE HAD TO SCROUNGE AND SLIME AND CALL IN ALL THEIR SCUM FAVORS TO GET PEOPLE TO PARANOIA LYNCH FLAVOR
IT'S INSANE
HOW IS NO ONE ELSE SEEING THIS

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Post Post #2274  (isolation #241)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 pm

Real talk I don't even know what the case against flavor is other than "he pocket u be scare"

fucking awful

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Post Post #2277  (isolation #242)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:05 pm

In post 2275, Almost Chara wrote:I obviously meant both @L-2 in #2266.

@Nancy: I said it before. Koki & jjh are my preferred wagons. I don't see us lynching either in the remaining time, so I'm just going to try and force a no lynch here.



It's so fucking anti-town to do that
Whyyyy
It'd be fine if my vig went through but it didn't and now I'm gonna die
holy shit whyyyy
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT A NO LYNCH ON D1?!?!

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Post Post #2278  (isolation #243)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:05 pm

@Mephisto: Plenty of times, yes, holy shit
And if I hadn't, it wouldn't be out of this world to think "Oh wow what a novel scum strategy; to do something scum usually don't at L-1."

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Post Post #2279  (isolation #244)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:06 pm

Do you really think so little of TW's scumplay that you think they'd obv-scum at L-1?
Fucking really?

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Post Post #2280  (isolation #245)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:06 pm

They're playing you like a FIDDLE

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Post Post #2282  (isolation #246)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:06 pm

Either that or you're in cahoots
like damn

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Post Post #2286  (isolation #247)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:10 pm

In post 2284, Tibor and Lumia wrote:I’d be willing to vote ProFlavor and I recall someone else on stw saying the same so that can be lynched
Still gonna call it a vanity wagon Varsoon?
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Yes
It's still a vanity wagon
Shit has no reason for existing and it will flip town
And then I'll day and you fucking ingrates will let STW get away with another fucking trash win because NO ONE LISTENS TO ME
Would people just fucking listen to me for once?

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Post Post #2289  (isolation #248)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:11 pm

Like moddamn I've been on this site for nearly 6 years now; can people trust me right now? Just fucking ONCE?

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Post Post #2299  (isolation #249)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:14 pm

Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

I was trying to wait for SOMEONE to give me some reason why it'd fail on STW but no one outted it and STW STILL REFUSES to claim but says they aren't BP.
So I've gotta figure one of a few things is true:
1. Scum have some way to stop the kill based on placement and have stayed quiet
2. STW's just denying BP for SOME REASON AS TOWN??
3. Town stopped the kill, somehow, and is not claiming it because outting town PRs is not great and with me outted they can position to best keep their townreads alive.

So yeah
There's that too
Fuck
Now will people please just listen to me and bury the slot?

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Post Post #2300  (isolation #250)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:16 pm

In post 2290, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
Varsoon, how familiar are you with Occams razor?


Fairly familiar but it doesn't fit in GAMES OF RHETORIC among people who have high meta-knowledge of each other and can forum-dive ISOs of every single post ever made.
I also know people on-site like using Occams Razor to justify garbage positions.

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Post Post #2301  (isolation #251)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:17 pm

But, y'know, Mephisto, funny you mention Occam's razor because my role interaction, Occam's Razor-wise, dictates STW's just scum.

So what I should be saying is
Are YOU familiar with occam's razor?

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Post Post #2307  (isolation #252)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:20 pm

In post 2304, u r a person 2 wrote:I believe this claim. I think I know your flavor
VOTE: stw


Then you should be pretty aware of why I've avoided claiming flavor and why I've tried to warn others why claiming flavor tilts a ton of info.

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Post Post #2311  (isolation #253)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:21 pm

I'm glad that multiple people won't just take confirmed-town Varsoon's words at face value
Man fuck playing mafia if this is how people are gonna treat me.

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Post Post #2378  (isolation #254)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:17 pm

In post 2373, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2368, Creature wrote:VOTE: Varsoon

Varsoon isn't scum.


Varsoon: i want you to use your shot on a consensus. was i right that you were lying, or did your shot fail for another reason (like playerlist order.)


I'm cool doing consensus since it's obvious that I'm not the greatest judge of who is scum or not in this game.

@STW: Sorry for confbiasing on your slot; you were legitimately hard-scum to me and your dodginess and survivalistic approach combined with how many counterwagons were proposed in BOTH our Deadline-within-24-hours got me real tilted to reading you as scum.

Anyway, I think Kokichi needs to confirm as town or rescind the IC claim.

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Post Post #2379  (isolation #255)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:22 pm

In post 5, Krazy wrote:GAME START PLAYER ORDER -- RANDOMIZED

1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
2. Shoshin the worst (the worst + Shoshin hydra)
3. Mewtaph
4. u r a person 2
5. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
6. Mephistophanes 39 (Nancy Drew 39 and Aristophanes hydra)
7. pinturucchio
8. jjh927
9. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
10. Kokichi Oma
11. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
12. alchemist21
13. Creature
14. Varsoon


Okay so, let me figure this out.
Mephisto and STW died so...

1. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
2. Mewtaph
3. u r a person 2
4. AlmostChara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
5. pinturucchio
6. jjh927
7. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
8. Kokichi Oma
9. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
10. alchemist21
11. Creature
12. Varsoon



In post 2365, Krazy wrote:During the night forces have moved!

The new order of players is such:

1. pinturicchio
2. u r a person 2
3. Michael Scott (Auro + Volxen Hydra)
4. ProFlavor (Flavor Leaf and profii hydra)
5. Varsoon
6. Kokichi Oma
7. Tibor and Lumia (brassherald and Gamma Emerald hydra)
8. jjh927
9. Almost Chara (Almost50 + Chara Hydra)
10. Creature
11. Mewtaph
12. Alchemist21


So that's how people moved.
I tried to move to the middle of the playerlist specifically to avoid positioning stuff.

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Post Post #2380  (isolation #256)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:23 pm

So a ton of shifting. Huh.

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Post Post #2392  (isolation #257)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:47 pm

Have no clue why people are voting for the fucking IC
But ay it is what it is.
VOTE: Creature

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Post Post #2393  (isolation #258)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:48 pm

Picking up with shuttle, medic, bunkering, burrowing, etc. all make sense to me.

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Post Post #2394  (isolation #259)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:49 pm

Protoss also just have shields.

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Post Post #2401  (isolation #260)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:28 pm

You should probably be townlocking me since I'm claimed vig with no CC and mod-confirmed town has a vig in this setup.

But yeah.

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Post Post #2403  (isolation #261)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:41 pm

I think I probably shouldn't telegraph my shot if scum can just block it during the day or something like that. :/

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Post Post #2406  (isolation #262)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:49 pm

Well there's at one more very important thing that I've yet to reveal so let's not get too caught up in speculation.
I think our best approach is to just treat this game normally and catch scum.
Who do you think is scum?

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Post Post #2408  (isolation #263)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:01 pm

I used 'move up # of slots'.
I can basically move anywhere I want on the playerlist.

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Post Post #2421  (isolation #264)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:40 pm

@ProFlavor: Welcome to my position, where I was dead set that STW was scum from both a mechanical and gameplay perspective and they weren't, then I was considering a Mephi kill (waffling on it given Nancy's posts since they were pretty town but all the outs they kept whiteknighting STW with looked like they knew too much?) and they flipped town, too, so I really need to completely reassess.

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Post Post #2437  (isolation #265)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:08 am

In post 2430, Michael Scott wrote:Varsoon, do you think it's probable that scum tried to pocket you while bandwagoning onto Shoshin?
Who would you think would be likely culprits in that case?

~Jimothy


Probably. I dunno, though. Doubt it's the people voting me, actually.
Gotta figure scum's entirely in people I don't expect.
Bothers the hell out of me.

In post 2431, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2299, Varsoon wrote:Anyway I didn't wanna out this but whatever I'm dying anyway fuck it

My Dayvig fails if it hits scum.

Is this true, Varsoon?
Is yours a day-vig and not on nights?
You were considering a Mephi kill; for the night? Were you the one who shot Mephi?

(Sorry if the questions are dumb; I just need clarification)

~Jimothy


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Post Post #2464  (isolation #266)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:10 pm

So this is where I shoot ProFlavor?

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Post Post #2471  (isolation #267)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:28 pm

When I shoot Koki
if Koki flips town
The next shot is aimed at my own dumbass self.

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Post Post #2480  (isolation #268)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:48 pm

ProFlavor, are you roleblocking me?

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Post Post #2485  (isolation #269)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:45 pm

In post 2482, Almost Chara wrote:
In post 2480, Varsoon wrote:ProFlavor, are you roleblocking me?


Did you try to shoot already? Or are you speculating preemptively?

~A50


Spec.
I have to bold in thread.

And I really don't like ProFlavor calling my claim into question when Kokichi's hasn't been rescinded at all.

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Post Post #2493  (isolation #270)  » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:40 am

Anyway I'd prefer not to get caught up in rolespec stuff around my role because I don't want to be biased against people doubtcasting because I definitely have lied about some aspects of my role, intentionally, in order to WIFOM scum.
So we should probably try to catch people independent of that rolespec.

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Post Post #2529  (isolation #271)  » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:17 pm

VOTE: Michael Scott

In that case, let's start here.

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Post Post #2542  (isolation #272)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:58 pm

You're in the middle, and I'm curious how you'll play with some attention on you.
If I'm pocketed, then it's between AlmostChara and ProFlavor.

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Post Post #2546  (isolation #273)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:41 pm

Add pint to that list.

And, I'unno, Creature,
VOTE: Creature

Enough to not get rekt

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Post Post #2550  (isolation #274)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:45 pm

You gonna have to use real words my man

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Post Post #2572  (isolation #275)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:56 pm

VOTE: Michael Scott

Don't like that defense one bit.

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Post Post #2575  (isolation #276)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:08 pm

I'm not an authority on reading anyone by any means. I just wanted to make some pressure there to see what others had to say but it's been a lotta nothin.

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Post Post #2576  (isolation #277)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:08 pm

There's always time to try somethin new! :P

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Post Post #2578  (isolation #278)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:15 pm

You're like "I'm not underwhelming as scum" or whatever
That doesn't work for me.

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Post Post #2580  (isolation #279)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:20 pm

"I've been bad as both alignments so you can't push me."

A+

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Post Post #2583  (isolation #280)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:26 pm

I dunno man, I don't like you going to that as your first line of defense.

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Post Post #2585  (isolation #281)  » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:28 pm

Aight then but when creature flips town what do we do
VOTE: Creature

Cus I think the meta arguments against creature are lame AF.

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Post Post #2607  (isolation #282)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:40 am

VOTE: JJH

This is good too.

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Post Post #2608  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:40 am

Also, before people screw things up.
I can't shoot anyone today.

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Post Post #2619  (isolation #284)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:12 am

Don't worry, we'll be back to your regularly scheduled programming tomorrow.

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Post Post #2624  (isolation #285)  » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:47 am

In post 2619, Varsoon wrote:Don't worry, we'll be back to your regularly scheduled programming tomorrow.

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Post Post #2673  (isolation #286)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:09 am

I killed Kokichi.

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Post Post #2679  (isolation #287)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:12 am

Hey Kokichi
Don't lie about your role, okay?

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Post Post #2685  (isolation #288)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:05 am

In post 2681, jjh927 wrote:I mean, you pretty brazenly lied about your role to mislynch town. That vig flavour is lurker, and I suspect you had to spend n1 burrowing before you could vig.

But we're past that now.


Brass, Pintu, Mewtaph scum


The point was to WIFOM scum, though, obviously, doesn't matter since I powerlynched town and killed town so I'm the worst now.

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Post Post #2692  (isolation #289)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:28 am

Gotta figure I wasn't targeted because scum knew I'd be killing town and that I'm pocketed.

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Post Post #2703  (isolation #290)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 pm

Yeah it's Michael Scott for scum.
Too many :P faces.

VOTE: Michael Scott

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Post Post #2718  (isolation #291)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:54 pm

In post 2711, pinturicchio wrote:@Varsoon did you target someone at N1?


Nah JJH basically nailed my role.
I had to spend a night rooting into a place in the playerlist and then I could kill a ground-based player.

UNVOTE:
Wanted to see how you'd respond
Still would be fine with lynching you though.

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Post Post #2720  (isolation #292)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:56 pm

I honestly have no idea what's what and I think between how I botched D1 and my kill, I'm responsible for the town loss this game when it comes.

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Post Post #2722  (isolation #293)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:57 pm

I don't know how to.

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Post Post #2728  (isolation #294)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:06 pm

Given how much I believed in Shoshin as scum, I'd be willing to believe that wagon was mostly town, to be honest.

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Post Post #2743  (isolation #295)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:41 pm

I'm not in a good position to propose an order.

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Post Post #2750  (isolation #296)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:49 pm

I suggest

jjh927
Proflavor
Alchemist
Mewtaph
T&L
Almost Chara
Pint
Michael Scott

If that's everyone
Not that it really matters

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Post Post #2761  (isolation #297)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:34 pm

You can't rely on that as a tell, though, because it's either 100% and then against the rules or it's not true and, ergo, not useful.

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Post Post #2762  (isolation #298)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:35 pm

It's that trust-tell shit that I tried way way long ago
but with quitting games instead of claiming scum.

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Post Post #2763  (isolation #299)  » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:36 pm

Anyway I feel like a stab in the dark would be a better choice for me than thinking of informing my actions, so I'm literally just going to /rand the kill tonight.

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Post Post #2865  (isolation #300)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:26 am

I'm an Informed Zerg Spine Crawler
The role is technically informed town novice ground adjacent vigilante.
I'm a ground unit and a building.
I am informed that the mafia team has at least one ground unit--this is redacted on my death flip.
I have to spend night 1 moving to a point in the player list, and then rooting there, then I can't move again.
After rooting, I can kill ground units ADJACENT TO ME on the playerlist. People flip with tentacle kill flavor.

N1 I moved as I claimed earlier to root in the middle near Kokichi.
N2 I killed Kokichi.

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Post Post #2866  (isolation #301)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:26 am

I tried lying about my role and how it worked to wifom scum but I just screwed us, I think.
I'm gonna stop lying about my roles from here on out. I'm not a good enough player to actually catch scum with that leverage.

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Post Post #2868  (isolation #302)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:44 am

Yeah but isn't this LYLO or something?
I kinda don't want to kill anymore.
I shouldn't have in the first place.
Town vig always hits town except when it doesn't and then it's just a winmore role

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Post Post #2872  (isolation #303)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:55 am

Aight but when if this is a scum gambit and I am redirected or something
I don't like it

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Post Post #2893  (isolation #304)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:50 am

In post 2878, pinturicchio wrote:Did your role PM say that the BPs were town? If not, jjh could be scum BP, so I think lynching him today is better than shooting him


Yeah I think scum may have a BP and it's erroneous for us to assume BP = town.

In post 2887, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m getting suspicious of his slot as well. He didn’t bring up the option of shooting JJ until Varsoon said he can only shoot adjacent players. I checked the current order and the other player adjacent to Varsoon is ProFlavor. We could be looking at a Mew/ProFlavor/MS scumteam here.



Could be.
I literally could not tell you who is town or not right now and I don't feel like putting in the effort at all.
Congrats on another scum win in Starcraft, largely my fault for being a fuck up

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Post Post #2902  (isolation #305)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:02 am

In post 2896, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2893, Varsoon wrote:I don't feel like putting in the effort at all.

You should, man. You're the only confirmed town at this point.


I feel like I'll just continue to lead us to ruin and that's why I was allowed to even live this long.

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Post Post #2907  (isolation #306)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:08 am

I don't trust my judgment here and I don't want to thrust myself into a position that people will sheep just because I'm conf-town when others are far more likely to have their head in the game in a way that can solve it.

If something feels right, I'll throw my weight behind it, but right now, nothing feels right and I'm not having a great time.

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Post Post #2926  (isolation #307)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:46 pm

Guys
I really feel like it's Pint

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Post Post #2927  (isolation #308)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:47 pm

Okay well it might not be pint but I get this feeling when he posts like
I dont know

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Post Post #2930  (isolation #309)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:20 pm

I actually would be very up for lynching out of Michael Scott(117), Tibor and Lumia(30), pinturicchio(33)

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Post Post #2931  (isolation #310)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:20 pm

Outside of ProFlavor and AlmostChara, those are the ones I am most paranoid/worried about.

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Post Post #2933  (isolation #311)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:17 pm

I hard tilted myself and got town lynched in a way that very likely soured their already untoward understanding of who I am as both a player and a human being.

I then proceeded to kill a player who I highly suspect as having fake-claimed IC in all of his recent games that we've been in purely due to the fact that I fake-claimed IC in a game we were in and that play lost the game for us. This is probably an egotistical stance for me to take, but that's how it feels. And, as we've seen, Kokichi flipped town here, further sealing that, yes, my IC fake in UpicketyPick was bad play, and, yes, I am a fucking hypocrite for killing him over claiming it here, as town.

So yeah man I'm not really in the mood to mafia anymore because the last several games have culminated in this farce where everything I do specifically makes me look more like an asshole to people who I'd rather not be a dick to.

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Post Post #2934  (isolation #312)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:17 pm

I'm not just losing games for town; I'm eroding people's confidence in me as a player and as a person.

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Post Post #2941  (isolation #313)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:31 pm

Thanks
I'm just struggling real hard to get into game right now and I know I need to be more in it
I really feel like I did wrong my Shoshin and TW with how I leveraged IC status and fake-claimed to get them lynched. This is the second time in a row where I've over-claimed my role to push a lynch I had high confidence in on a town player who I've got a history of having sour interactions with and I really don't want to make a habit of doing that.

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Post Post #2948  (isolation #314)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:42 am

VOTE: ProFlavor
Fuggit
I'm done

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Post Post #2983  (isolation #315)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:09 pm

Hey man, sorry I'm awful
again.

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Post Post #2984  (isolation #316)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:09 pm

Sometimes you think you're right and then you're not.

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Post Post #2986  (isolation #317)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:51 pm

Every now and then, yeah. Then the person I was pushing like that usually does something to tilt me all over again.

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Post Post #2999  (isolation #318)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:27 am

VOTE: JJH

Also fine with this.

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Post Post #3014  (isolation #319)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:46 am

I've feel resigned, sorry.

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Post Post #3017  (isolation #320)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:53 am

In post 3015, Michael Scott wrote:Varsoon, I like you and all BUT if you really feel resigned and don't feel like playing the game, you should consider the prospect of having someone replace into your slot...


I feel like playing the game but I also feel like if I commit to anything, it'll be wrong, and I'll be a jackass for it.

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Post Post #3018  (isolation #321)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:53 am

So I'm just gonna sheep you for now, whatever.

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Post Post #3019  (isolation #322)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am

I am pretty sure JJH is scum though.

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Post Post #3020  (isolation #323)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am

So just lynch that.

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Post Post #3021  (isolation #324)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am

And If I am wrong, well, ay, nothing new.

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Post Post #3023  (isolation #325)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:04 pm

If you're okay voting JJH then vote JJH.

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Post Post #3059  (isolation #326)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:17 pm

I holstered so we'd be back on Odds.

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Post Post #3061  (isolation #327)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:21 pm

Still not really.
Actually incredibly worried that your push for a massclaim was just to out roles like Chara's so that scum would have a roadmap to victory and you bussed JJH to distract from something else.

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Post Post #3065  (isolation #328)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:37 pm

It's possible, man.

What were Chara's reads?

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Post Post #3067  (isolation #329)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:46 pm

All of it.

What are your thoughts on those reads? Do you think ProFlavor/Mew is scum, and why?

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Post Post #3070  (isolation #330)  » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:57 pm

@Michael: Whatever, man, you do you.

@Alchemist: No idea. It's probably not a bus, we should just hunt scum normally instead of getting paranoid.

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Post Post #3122  (isolation #331)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:44 am

In post 3091, Michael Scott wrote:@Firebringer, Varsoon: Pintu is the highest priority read right now. Can you solidify your read on that slot, beyond "gut"?


Dude makes me uncomfortable but that's about it.
I don't recall how I was reading him before.

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Post Post #3124  (isolation #332)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:14 am

Dunno, didn't play much Starcraft 2.
Terran do have ghosts that can lock down a target, but it doesn't work on biological targets so /shrugs

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Post Post #3128  (isolation #333)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:07 am

In post 3127, pinturicchio wrote:Whoever realizes why gets brownie points, go


Because it feeds my paranoia?

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Post Post #3135  (isolation #334)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:54 am

Oh, was Zerg Hatchery his fake claim but Michael Scott slipped by saying it when it hasn't been posted anywhere in the game thread?

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Post Post #3191  (isolation #335)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:13 am

In post 3174, pinturicchio wrote:@Varsoon, ProFLavor and Alchemist: I want your opinion in this too.


VOTE: Proflavor
Is what I think

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Post Post #3214  (isolation #336)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:58 am

Was Alchemist on my team back in that Excalibur game?
If so, he's probably scum here.

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Post Post #3230  (isolation #337)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:28 am

Pro, I'm the fuckin vig and I moved 4 spaces N1, aint no way I'm VT.

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Post Post #3371  (isolation #338)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:35 am

VOTE: Pint
Yeah dude relax

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Post Post #3375  (isolation #339)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:45 am

I'm with you on it probably being Mewtaph.

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Post Post #3378  (isolation #340)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:36 am

Not really, Mew.

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Post Post #3379  (isolation #341)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:36 am

Also, the fact I'm voting Pintu and scum haven't just quickhammered it indicates that Pintu's just scum, right?

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Post Post #3402  (isolation #342)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:49 am

@Pint: Just because you can't get town to vote for town doesn't mean it's conf-scum, man.
I'm CONFIRMED AS TOWN.
When I am voting someone, if everyone else is accounted for, and scum haven't just quick-hammered with their two votes, then it's very likely that the person I am voting for is just scum

Wow so hard

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Post Post #3403  (isolation #343)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:50 am

Kinda hope you're town and we losegame because you're being a dingus
That's spiteful of me but seriously
Don't be a dingus

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Post Post #3408  (isolation #344)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:29 pm

Real talk if it's an MS bus on JJH and framejob, I'm cool with giving him the W.

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Post Post #3409  (isolation #345)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:29 pm

If I have confidence in much this game, it's that it's not, though.

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Post Post #3426  (isolation #346)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:02 pm

Kinda wish ya'll would stop grandstanding and town can just sheep me and we can be done with the day
aight?

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Post Post #3431  (isolation #347)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:08 pm

In post 3428, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 3426, Varsoon wrote:Kinda wish ya'll would stop grandstanding and town can just sheep me and we can be done with the day
aight?

Sure, I'll vote myself and lose


This is a true statement regardless of your alignment.

Besides.
The fact that I am voting you has sealed your loss no matter what.

You should've pocketed me better.

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Post Post #3445  (isolation #348)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:44 pm

Well done, Mewtaph.

Scum sure as fuck didn't deserve that win, not in the face of how much effort Michael Slot was putting in but ay
WHATEVER
I guess

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Post Post #3447  (isolation #349)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:45 pm

In post 3403, Varsoon wrote: but seriously
Don't be a dingus


Ay Pint
Don't be a dingus
Even if you're scum.

I'm sorry if I've been a dingus
but damn it pisses me off when other people are that way too

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Post Post #3449  (isolation #350)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:46 pm

In post 3446, Michael Scott wrote:GG. My paranoia on Alch deepscum was correct! Sorry, town.

I thought my slot was obvtown.


I'd resigned to sheeping you out because I figured you were town and had it figured out.
Too bad everyone else wasn't on board.

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Post Post #3451  (isolation #351)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:47 pm

Thanks for running another game that I sucked at and lost in, Krazy.
I look forward to sucking at and losing your next game and pouting about it in post-game comments.
Your games are neat.

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Post Post #3453  (isolation #352)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:48 pm

Wanna apologize to the STW hydra for how I handled their lynch and everything.
Got tilted, is all.

Can't believe I lost to OBV-SCUM PINT who I called out slipping like three times.

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Post Post #3454  (isolation #353)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:49 pm

In post 3452, Krazy wrote:I initially liked the movement mechanic but it was more troublesome than expected to keep track of on my end, and I feel like the conversation it generated in thread was... not as interesting as conventional scumhunting, so I probably will not do that again in future games, although I did like the 'feel' it gave the game in certain moments.


I stand by what I said of it being a really cool way of rendering flavor.
More roles should have been dynamically integrated into it, I think. I dunno.

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Post Post #3456  (isolation #354)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:50 pm

I was sure of something I was wrong about.
Better to be wrong early instead of wrong late, but I guess that doesn't matter if it's all a loss anyway.

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Post Post #3458  (isolation #355)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:51 pm

But Mewtaph, why didn't you vote Pint, then, over Michael, who could've just been wrong, when me voting Pint CONFIRMED that PINT WAS SCUM

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Post Post #3460  (isolation #356)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:52 pm

Like damn man
You were irresponsible with your vote
You could've hashed out your doubts over Michael and your alienation by engaging through LYLO here but instead you voted and it cost us the game
That's what's got me nettled

P-EDIT: I solemnly swear I'll never fake-claim as town ever again

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Post Post #3462  (isolation #357)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Pint's posts in LYLO were so palpably slimy whereas it was clear that Michael was fighting an uphill battle trying to lay everything he had on the line
Scum doesn't do that in double-lylo when they've kept the IC alive.

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Post Post #3463  (isolation #358)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:55 pm

But yeah D3 would've probably just been Mew-Alch-MS and ended with an MS lynch anyway so uggh
I hate that I can't win games or even influence them for the better.

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Post Post #3464  (isolation #359)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:55 pm

D6, I guess
Dunno why I said D3.

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Post Post #3467  (isolation #360)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:00 pm

I was unsure who last scum was outside of Pint and
honestly
I thought I'd be dead so I resigned to not having to figure that one out

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Post Post #3480  (isolation #361)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:12 pm

In post 2926, Varsoon wrote:Guys
I really feel like it's Pint

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Post Post #3484  (isolation #362)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:18 pm

...which was immediately followed by a conversation where I propose lynching you still, though.

In post 2928, pinturicchio wrote:Is it because I'm a sweetheart?

In post 2930, Varsoon wrote:I actually would be very up for lynching out of Michael Scott(117), Tibor and Lumia(30), pinturicchio(33)

In post 2932, pinturicchio wrote:What happened along the way, dear? I thought we were cool

In post 2933, Varsoon wrote:I hard tilted myself and got town lynched in a way that very likely soured their already untoward understanding of who I am as both a player and a human being.

I then proceeded to kill a player who I highly suspect as having fake-claimed IC in all of his recent games that we've been in purely due to the fact that I fake-claimed IC in a game we were in and that play lost the game for us. This is probably an egotistical stance for me to take, but that's how it feels. And, as we've seen, Kokichi flipped town here, further sealing that, yes, my IC fake in UpicketyPick was bad play, and, yes, I am a fucking hypocrite for killing him over claiming it here, as town.

So yeah man I'm not really in the mood to mafia anymore because the last several games have culminated in this farce where everything I do specifically makes me look more like an asshole to people who I'd rather not be a dick to.

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Post Post #3486  (isolation #363)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:19 pm

Like I clearly picked up from your rhetoric that you were scum
I just couldn't articulate it and I've been too exasperated and down on myself to care to go hard on it.

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Post Post #3493  (isolation #364)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:30 pm

I literally wrote that I really think you were scum
And then I wrote that it was when you made posts like the one you had made
What more do you want?
Sorry I'm not praising you for your fucking awesome win where only a single town player happened to not want to vote you because they OMGUS'd. Cool shit.

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Post Post #3495  (isolation #365)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:33 pm

Congrats on the impeccable great play; you had everyone fooled and you're the pinnacle of wonderfulness
I am in awe and I never suspected you, you really should win a scummy and this game should be referenced as a primary text on how to beat town every time as scum because you had perfect kills and plays and there was no way town would ever beat you; sorry for being so sore and unable to fully comprehend or appreciate how fucking bodacious your rhetorical masterminding was.

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Post Post #3500  (isolation #366)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:36 pm

URAP2 is absolutely correct; we all failed to correctly identify and properly push the amazing scum players, real sheep in wolf's clothing, just the absolute undeniable paragons of the game and anyone who thinks differently is a bitter, sad, pathetic, sore loser of a person who couldn't possibly have a ledge to stand on and it's incredibly unbecoming that anyone would try to argue otherwise after a game has occured in which scum has won by such sheer magnitudes of deception and positioning that would make even Go grand master Kim Seong-ryong blush and declare this must be the machinations of yet another advanced thinking platform.

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Post Post #3502  (isolation #367)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:37 pm

Man, I literally pointed out where I suspected you and for what post and when you respond to that with "lol but where did you call out my slips", that shit is legitimately frustrating.

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Post Post #3508  (isolation #368)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:41 pm

I don't think you ever outright slipped or were confirmed as scum until last day and the fact that Mewtaph couldn't recognize that when I was voting you is something that has been really bad for my blood pressure.

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Post Post #3515  (isolation #369)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:44 pm

I called ProFlavor town really early on but then literally everyone acted differently so I didn't fight it like I should have.
This is what's annoying to me
I don't know when it's right to be really persistent on something I see as true versus when I should just believe what a majority does.

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Post Post #3519  (isolation #370)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:45 pm

In post 3513, RadiantCowbells wrote:i only read 2 pages and my gamesolve was correct


Too bad you didn't play this one then, huh?

@Pint: Ah, nah, it's all good, we were just misunderstanding each other. Ya'll did do good with your kills and positioning, I'm just frustrated with how it played out given that I finally did actually have some things right.

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Post Post #3521  (isolation #371)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:47 pm

I'm not that bitter, just kinda taking the piss.
<3 all ya'll, glad we could play such a tense game out through D6, wish we would've gone into 3P lylo and more time and consideration had gone into the LYLO we did have.
Sorry for my play all around, from tilting a fake claim versus STW to being resigned and out of it for the rest of the game.

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Post Post #3569  (isolation #372)  » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:23 pm

Starcraft : Broodwar Mafia
Warcraft 2 : Tides of Darkness Mafia
Uhhh
I dunno

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