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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:31 am

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Dam.n I missed first post. Hey everyone. Have a good new year?

VOTE: clemency

@clem can I get another vote on this wagon? :P
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:13 am

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Doing good Clem. How are you?

@Trekkie is that a reference to a previous game you've played together?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:16 am

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Oh I see it now. Sorry. Reading on my phone.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:47 pm

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I've had very limited experience with games that had neighbors. What is the advantage of claiming it so early?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:02 pm

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@overkill why did you choose to announce the neighborhood so early? Also are there any houses left at affordable rates?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:05 pm

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@board is there any chance of a scum being neighbors with a townie or no?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:10 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:12 pm

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In post 27, ofrhz wrote:
In post 26, EGL wrote:@board is there any chance of a scum being neighbors with a townie or no?
Yes, they can be S+T, but they can also be T+T. I don't think they can be S+S though, or at least, I've never seen a hood with only scum in singleball.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor
I mean yeah that sounds like it would be just a normal scum team. Scum + scum neighborhood I mean.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:04 pm

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I don't know. Whether or not they're town is one thing, but why should we believe they randomly fake claimed about being able to talk to one another?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:05 pm

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Although it would be fun to see them prove it.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:05 pm

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How does it prove at least one town between them?
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Post Post #43 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:27 pm

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Sorry I should have @ed vorkuta.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:47 am

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He did say copypasta which looks an awful lot like copy and paste, to be fair. Also if they don't have a chat I don't see how it would prove they're scum. Doesn't scum get a chat?
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Post Post #54 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:49 am

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It would be a weird thing to lie about, though.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:59 am

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VOTE: pvturist
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Post Post #57 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:20 am

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Why?
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Post Post #73 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:03 am

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Vork do you think it's likely one of the neighbors is scum, and if so, which?
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Post Post #80 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:01 pm

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In post 77, PvtUrist wrote:I like your response, Overki11. How do you feel about singleton's posts so far? Especially his first post and #63+#64.
@pvturist why didn't you think vork was suggesting copy and paste?

@munch why did you apologize rather than point out vork said copypasta?
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Post Post #133 (isolation #18) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:50 am

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@Clem unvote:self.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #19) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:07 pm

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In post 135, Clemency wrote:i can't believe i'm taking orders from a glorified salt shaker
I've been meaning to change my avatar, since this one is like 10 years old.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #20) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:21 pm

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@Clem Better?
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Post Post #167 (isolation #21) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:34 pm

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In post 142, PvtUrist wrote:
@EGL is that pumpkin and if so does that define your allignment in any way?
Yup. You got me. I'm pumpkin aligned.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #22) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:36 pm

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Sorry. I couldn't resist. It's actually tomato soup, or at least that's what it's supposed to be. It's not indicative of alignment.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:37 pm

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I really like pvturist for that setup. Thank you!
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Post Post #170 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:39 pm

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Overkill claim I thought was scummy at first, like he was overzealous mafia trying to use the neighborhood to pass as townie, but there was something else he did that made it a cancel out combo. I'll find it after this episode of Superstore.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:40 pm

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Munch I have a town lean on.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:41 pm

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In post 171, Gamma Emerald wrote:Are you the Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Lasers Out Of Its Arse?
Is that what the Great Pumpkin from Charlie Brown does or what's that from?
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Post Post #175 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:49 pm

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Lol nice.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:42 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #237 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:12 pm

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I think my two biggest suspects right now are pvturist and Jenga. I'm going to take a nap and then I'll try to get on my laptop to get into more detail.

Town lean on Clem because he seems to be playing pretty much the same as the last game I played with him where he was town. I've never seen him play as scum though.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:12 pm

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I don't understand. You're voting for someone because they seem townie?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:16 pm

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I love how I say pvturist is one of my main suspects and he immediately puts me in his scum group.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:24 pm

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My point is it reeks of OMGUS.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:12 am

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@singleton you said spring seemed triggered when called an sk. Are they allowed in mini normal these days?
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Post Post #276 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:18 am

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In post 271, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 270, Vorkuta wrote:I mean if there's a brave enough soul who wants to claim
or fake claim
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bully
encourage someone to claim, then that should spark some discussion and allegiances no?
Ummmm, I am pretty sure that would spark a debate, but I don't see how it would help town. Debate and activity is good for town, but to risk a PR getting killed N1 just because thread was uninteresting. No way it is worth it.
I don't like this suggestion...
Maybe it's my lack of experience, but I just can't see how this suggestion is pro-town.
^^^ town points
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Post Post #277 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:33 am

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@springtrap what do you think of the wagon against you?
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Post Post #282 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:35 am

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Not liking NM putting someone at l-2 with a naked vote as his second post.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:35 am

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VOTE: not_mafia
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Post Post #288 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:54 am

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Is it that he seemed like mafia trying to pass as town when he claimed the neighborhood right away?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:09 pm

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OK also has one post about something besides the neighborhood.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:10 pm

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And NM put spring at l-2 with no explanation on his second post.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:12 pm

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I think NM could use more votes.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:36 pm

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Okay. VOTE: springtrap looks like that's our lynch today.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #43) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:37 pm

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@mod
can you please fix my tags in the above post?

MOD SEZ: I dont know what you're talking about, those vote tags look top hat, cool cat :^)

(Oh hey while I'm abusing my powers, yall should make exactly 3 more posts so I can finally snag that sweet page top for a vote count)
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Post Post #297 (isolation #44) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:43 pm

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Should be L-1. @springtrap you should probably claim.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:57 pm

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FNaF?
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Post Post #307 (isolation #46) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:58 pm

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So can we vote NM then?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #47) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:34 pm

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Putting my vote back on NM.

VOTE: not_mafia
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Post Post #312 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:14 am

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Pct why do you read NM as town?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:14 am

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Makes no sense.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:18 am

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No. You still make no sense.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:19 am

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Hammer
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Post Post #317 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:19 am

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VOTE: springtrap
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Post Post #318 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:21 am

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Oh you were on the wagon before. Anyway someone else can hammer
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Post Post #344 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:54 am

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I'm fine with being lynched off today as long as we don't lose a town power role. That being said, Clem, is NM going to just keep doing this all game or is he going to start, you know, helping the town? Because I'm getting all sorts of pings on my radar from him (and from pvturist for ignoring it in favor of his omgus against me) but if you have played with him before, I'll have to defer to your judgement. Still, I'd like the assurance that if he's town, he'll help and not just troll us.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:54 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #346 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:08 am

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Earlier in the game pvt jumped on munch for "being defensive" that he (pvt) skimmed (the copypasta thing) and then put stk and I on his scum list after we both voted for him. Stk switches pvturist to town read and pvturist reciprocates. I never did and he doubles down on his omgus next post after I say he's one of my top 2 suspects. He posts "read lists" without offering much, if any, reason why so as to appear to be scum hunting when he in fact isn't.

NM is my strongest scum read based on his trolling.

Vork I think is number 3 but in a gray area. His bad suggestions are scummy if he wants the town to actually go through with them, but could be a good effort at setting traps for scum if he's town. Just not sure which is which.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:10 am

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In post 65, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 61, singletonking wrote: How is Munch's assumption unreasonable, and how is it overdefensive?
Unreasonable? Not so in hindsight. Overdefensive? Up to you to interpret why I said so.

You're the third vote on me singleton, I'll be mindful of that.
Also there is this little gem.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:13 am

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We should make some kind of lynch today. We have 2 days left, but it feels like the game has been pretty slow moving for most of it.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:31 am

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VOTE: not_mafia
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Post Post #375 (isolation #60) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:21 pm

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In post 366, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 365, PvtUrist wrote:In post 363, Munchmellow wrote:
In post 316, EGL wrote:
Hammer

I don't understand this. Are you telling PvT he should hammer? And why the rush, it was still 2days left, Springtrap said he has sth to claim and you stated you would rather vote NM. So with things so unclear, why urge someone to hammer?

EGL tried to hammer, but his vote was actually L-1
Ok, point stays the same. EGL's first choice was NM, so why rush hammering with 2days left?
Didn't want to get where we are now. 10 hours left, and it doesn't look like we're going to have a lynch. Of course, if spring is a PR I'd rather not lose that, but we do need a lynch.

Also anyone notice pvturist has 2 votes?
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Post Post #378 (isolation #61) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:28 pm

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In post 363, Munchmellow wrote:I'm so confused right now...
In post 322, Springtrap wrote:Not claiming today so I don't die, besides that I'm important enough and that if I'm around day 2 this'll be an easier game.
In post 324, Springtrap wrote:Again, I'm advising everyone to not let me claim yet, and a No-Lynch is preferable in this situation so we don't lose me.

Reads are immaterial at the moment.
I believe Springtrap for now and won't be voting him. And if he is full of shit we could still lynch him D2.
In post 316, EGL wrote:Hammer
I don't understand this. Are you telling PvT he should hammer? And why the rush, it was still 2days left, Springtrap said he has sth to claim and you stated you would rather vote NM. So with things so unclear, why urge someone to hammer?
You got the posts a little out of order, too.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #62) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:24 pm

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299 and 301 did nothing for me until Clem vouched for him.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #63) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:33 am

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In post 392, singletonking wrote:
In post 389, Clemency wrote:i'm not entirely sure he is
i just dont feel like he's scum
Didn't you say he's 100% town or something?
Only the mafia can be 100% sure on D1 who is and isn't town.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #64) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:26 am

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That's 4 on NM if the list is accurate
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Post Post #412 (isolation #65) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:29 am

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I'll move to Clem. We're running out of time.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #66) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:30 am

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VOTE: Clem
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Post Post #437 (isolation #67) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:06 am

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In post 436, Clemency wrote:can i establish a homeowners association in the graveyard
Yes
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Post Post #438 (isolation #68) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:07 am

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In post 431, Clemency wrote:but you're the only one i like
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Post Post #445 (isolation #69) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:18 am

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In post 439, Clemency wrote:oh sorry egl i like you too
:] bring it in, buddy. Bring it in.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #70) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:45 pm

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What is SP?
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Post Post #462 (isolation #71) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 pm

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In post 455, Jenga wrote:VOTE: Not_Mafia
Jenga looks like she might have something.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #72) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:07 pm

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Pvt was pretty dead set against NM lynch yesterday.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #73) » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:22 pm

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I still liked NM lynch better for yesterday but some people just wouldn't give us the option. Lots to analyze with the wagons.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:58 am

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Mostly we were running out of time, and it looked like our only chance for a lynch. Also, there was Clem saying he knew 100% someone was town, although with the revelation that he's a neighborizer...
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Post Post #475 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:20 am

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What I've seen of this setup so far was not typical for normal games this size when I was frequently playing.

Munch and 0K were in a neighborhood together, then Clem was a neighborizer. I'm not sure if he was in their neighborhood, but it doesn't seem like it, since 0K only mentioned himself and Munch. I don't know if Clem started alone or not. But without all these neighborhoods (almost masonries) the only way to know for sure (100%) on D1 who is town was normally to be scum yourself.

I've never seen or heard of a private thread cop before.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:25 am

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Following Jenga's lead.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

FoS: PvtUrist
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Post Post #486 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:51 am

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@Vork @Pvt why wouldn't either of you vote for NM yesterday? Why won't you vote for him now?
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Post Post #488 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:03 am

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lol I need that Homer Simpson going back into the shrub gif after that.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #79) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 am

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I just happened to think that, assuming spring's role is town aligned, his role can be more helpful now with the neighborizer gone. There should be fewer townspeople in private threads, meaning the people he finds now who have access to them should be scum. That wouldn't have been so before with the 0k/munch neighborhood + if Clem had built a neighborhood. Springtrap's role would have been useless to the town.
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Post Post #496 (isolation #80) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:54 am

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In post 490, PvtUrist wrote:Still sick so nothing too fancy from me today;
Get well soon.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:29 pm

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In post 328, Clemency wrote:
In post 304, Vorkuta wrote:UNVOTE: Springtrap

Only because I'm extremely wary of him being at L-1 and I'm worried about a random turbo lynch.
But what the hell are posts #299 and #301. For real?

And Not_Mafia- are you trolling us?
Because I don't like trolls.
it's so funny seeing players react to not_mafia for the first time
spoiler = he always has been and always will be like this
In post 329, Clemency wrote:dont be mistaken, he's great at the game
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Post Post #503 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:39 pm

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In post 349, Clemency wrote:
In post 344, EGL wrote:I'm fine with being lynched off today as long as we don't lose a town power role. That being said, Clem, is NM going to just keep doing this all game or is he going to start, you know, helping the town? Because I'm getting all sorts of pings on my radar from him (and from pvturist for ignoring it in favor of his omgus against me) but if you have played with him before, I'll have to defer to your judgement. Still, I'd like the assurance that if he's town, he'll help and not just troll us.
i've seen him write a full sentence maybe three times, let alone a paragraph
he plays when he needs to though
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Post Post #504 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:39 pm

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Closest I've gotten to an answer is in those posts from Clem. I've never played with NM.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:28 pm

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So that's why you didn't vote for him yesterday?
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Post Post #513 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:46 am

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There's no doubt in my mind spring is a PT cop. I'm just unsure whether it's a town role or scum role. I'm willing to give spring the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 511, Vorkuta wrote:I'll go out and say it- night action claim?
If it is, he didn't target me, and it wouldn't make sense for him to have targeted NM in night 1 with any role that could have cleared him, because NM wasn't even on his radar in the day phase. He wouldn't vote for NM yesterday and pushed spring and Clem wagons at the last minute instead. He even gave the wrong count on the NM wagon, claiming Clem was at 5 and NM at 3 when NM had 4.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:03 am

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And he can't have any result suggesting I'm scum. Just not possible.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 516, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 511, Vorkuta wrote:I'll go out and say it- night action claim?
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In post 515, EGL wrote:And he can't have any result suggesting I'm scum. Just not possible.
no role evidence = obv not scum perfect logic here
That's not what I said. Vork asked if you had a night result. I was saying it's not likely that you do and stated why. The latter reason would be confirmed in the event of my death and subsequent role flip.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:21 am

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In post 517, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 513, EGL wrote:There's no doubt in my mind spring is a PT cop. I'm just unsure whether it's a town role or scum role. I'm willing to give spring the benefit of the doubt for now.
Because obviously nobody else would think like that and you totally didn't write this just for town-points
This was in response to 0k. Also I don't remember seeing anyone question whether or not spring is town today. It's something we have to consider.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:25 am

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Pvt why wouldn't you vote for NM yesterday?
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Post Post #524 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:26 am

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In post 522, PvtUrist wrote:
In post 521, EGL wrote:Also I don't remember seeing anyone question whether or not spring is town today. It's something we have to consider.
and now we do. Good job town!EGL :wink:
Sarcasm?
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Post Post #527 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:30 am

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I don't think I deserve the sarcasm for trying to get a discussion started. And I don't understand how he was confirmed town since d1 unless you're scum.
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