In post 468, CheekyTeeky wrote: In post 467, CultOfAthena wrote:"A decent attempt at reads" seems like a pretty low bar, honestly. Why did you townread Alisae's posting? Was it really just the attempt at reads?
Out of the shitty low content yesterday yeah that bar was high enough to let her cruise into another day. You were obviously conf biased so I don't think your vote was scummy. PP should have known better.
Should have known better than what? Like, you say that within the context of low content yesterday that Alisae was towny, but I just don't think that's reasonable. If you're saying that Alisae's attempt at reads was enough to warrant a townread then your standards for a townread are so low as to the point of absurdity.
I mean, really. Actually go reread Alisae's ISO. I'm not trying to denigrate the effort there, but it's ridiculous to me to say that "What Alisae did was enough that you really shouldn't have voted there", and I'd like it if you could be more specific in what exactly you found towny there.
In post 467, CultOfAthena wrote:With his vote on Ari there, he was handing you free reign to ensure that any of the three already existing wagons would for sure go through. Anyone who was even reading the thread should've known that I was always voting Alisae there, so if he didn't want that to happen, I feel like he should've done something except start a vanity wagon there.
I don't get what you're saying about making sure the wagons go through?
How could we predict you would be chosen last or that Ali was even town? I'm confused :/
There were three 2-vote wagons at the time when Reck was chosen. When he chose to be the first vote on Ari and hand the vote to you, at that point you could have ensured that any of the three 2-vote wagons would have gone through for sure. Say you voted TTTT. Even if I voted Alisae, both TTTT and Alisae would be at 3 votes, and given that TTTT got to 3 votes first, he would have been lynched.
Nothing I'm saying is based around anyone "predicting" that I would be chosen last. I'm talking about
in the moment
that Reck voted.
I also don't think I said anything about you or Reck "predicting" that Alisae would be town – I am speaking within the context of Reck's existing reads. That is, if Reck did not want Alisae lynched, he had an opportunity to try to go for an alternative which he did not take—as, again, anyone paying attention at all should have known that I was going to vote Alisae there.
In post 469, CheekyTeeky wrote:I feel like a mountain is being made out of a molehill just because of our placement in the order and us voting our scumread but I don't know what that means yet. As scum why wouldn't Reck or I jump on the other 3 "town" wagons? Why would scum!reck vote an "unlikely" wagon in exchange for being able to determine who stays?
My comment was that, if either of the two of you were scum, it would not matter to you which of the three 2-vote wagons went through. That would both explain starting a wagon that was basically never going to go through, as well as point to all three of the 2-vote wagons being on town. After all, if we assume Reck or you were scum and one of your scumbuddies was being lynched, both of you could have taken action to try to avoid such happening. Vice versa applies to if any of the 2-vote wagons flip scum, I would imagine.
Of course, that ignores the possibility that, even with a partner being wagoned, one/both of you knew that I would always hammer Alisae there and thus didn't feel the need to take action yourself. But, I consider that pretty unlikely.
