In post 22, the worst wrote:
In post 22, the worst wrote:
In post 1079, The Last Knight wrote:In post 1026, DrewVa wrote:In post 1024, The Last Knight wrote:C'mon guys, you don't want to vote to lynch me... Not if you're town anyway. Scum can vote for me all they want. Careful of that hammer!
But I will continue to update this unofficial VC as the votes come in. And others should feel free to do so, if they so desire.
Convince the people on your wagon to vote Ram instead and I’ll switch.In [/smallcaps]p=10617941#p10617941]post 1050, Ramcius wrote:
Nah, keep it, i like to see who comes along on my wagon
I just want to point out that you're talking to the person who told me to put you on the counterwagon, while I have said nothing about you other than defending your own right to a public vote.
Have any other reason to read me scum?
In post 1379, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, I may or may not have changed my vote with the recent information. But hey, since I'm about to go to sleep...
The person with the most votes after the person lynched is the one who gets shot. Is that a decent deal?
In post 3905, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:..but this makes a lot of sense.
They didn't get to do much D1, but I'd argue this slot would've likely been the strongest town-presence and leader in the coming days if left alive.Didn't know this.In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
I wonder if scum knew it from the start of the game, or if they were told last night.
But I'd bet a lot of MafiaScum-dollars saying that they chose one of themselves to be a Day Rep today.
Simply because they couldn't have foreseen Boon sharing this info with us at the start of the day, meaning that they thought there would be no downside to it.
So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in: Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]
Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.
Assuming there's a daytalk for scum, I'd say TWO scum in either of the two other wagons.
Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]
This would also fit my previous reads perfectly.
Based on my reads btw, this second line is quite useful as well.
Almost Chara [12/27, 14:50], Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Almost Chara actually flipped town, and I'm thinking Elsa...should?...be townread for now.
The one I didn't green out is TLK, but consider scum!TLK.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT BOTH RAMCIUS AND KARMELEON WERE ON THEIR TEAMMATE CLOSE TO THE END OF D1.
That makes no sense. (since in this game scum have no idea who is ACTUALLY the leading wagon until the list drops. I doubt they'd go for a hard buss on scum!TLK WHEN ANOTHER BUDDY WAS LIKELY THE OTHER LEADING WAGON.)
So I'm actually willing to say town!TLK -> the designated mislynch for scum D1.
So what follows, is that we are looking for Ramcius + Karmeleon + one in...the remaining wagons with all 2 votes in them.
We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool of Ultimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa.
One of the six who was on these three is the remaining scum.
How many scum are you thinking are in the game rn?
In post 4036, Nev and Max wrote:In post 4034, UnaBombaH wrote:Karmeleon is Creature.
I do not see town!Creature outing himself when about to be lynched, but maybe that's just me.
I can, however, see scum!Creature trying this as a last ditch effort.
Wait. Karm is actually creature? Is that what you're saying here?
In post 6281, RCEnigma wrote:In post 6275, Thanos wrote:It obviously should IMO; however, I have a feeling that scum might be trying to drive an EJ wagon to prevent a Something_Smart lynch today. Since we can confirm the revoting thing today, I want to lynch SS instead.
I was in the boonus round with SS and I said nothing would make me buy his story but with the no kill I kind of buy it unless SS and drewva are both scum together and I'll explain why when I get a chance.
In post 6684, profii wrote:NEWS JUST IN
I have the neighborizor
Still want to lynch S_S for not hammering - but I’ll at least re read why I shouldn’t and reconsider
In post 6958, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Considering no kill happened on n3, it could be that EJ was stopped due to so many folks targeting him (thanks Jingle for the documentation as I included your notes in my personal notes as well).
I'm not sure why your vig shot didn't go through though. Maybe I jailkept you because I had you as an sr (and probably still do ) .![]()
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~ P
In post 7549, Elsa Jay wrote:Drew already explained her powers. She sends 3 people to theShadow RealmBoonus Room.
In post 7831, Creature wrote:Small reminder that dave and I targeted her with a disloyal and got no result.
In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:..but this makes a lot of sense.
They didn't get to do much D1, but I'd argue this slot would've likely been the strongest town-presence and leader in the coming days if left alive.Didn't know this.In post 2404, Boonskiies wrote:Did you know...that the Mafia Team has an additional factional ability that allows them the opportunity to pick one of themselves as a Day Rep? They don't have to use this ability, but starting Night 1, it definitely became available!
I wonder if scum knew it from the start of the game, or if they were told last night.
But I'd bet a lot of MafiaScum-dollars saying that they chose one of themselves to be a Day Rep today.
Simply because they couldn't have foreseen Boon sharing this info with us at the start of the day, meaning that they thought there would be no downside to it.
So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in: Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]
Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.
Assuming there's a daytalk for scum, I'd say TWO scum in either of the two other wagons.
Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]
This would also fit my previous reads perfectly.
Based on my reads btw, this second line is quite useful as well.
Almost Chara [12/27, 14:50], Elsa Jay [12/28, 17:41], The Last Knight [12/28, 17:35]
Almost Chara actually flipped town, and I'm thinking Elsa...should?...be townread for now.
The one I didn't green out is TLK, but consider scum!TLK.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT BOTH RAMCIUS AND KARMELEON WERE ON THEIR TEAMMATE CLOSE TO THE END OF D1.
That makes no sense. (since in this game scum have no idea who is ACTUALLY the leading wagon until the list drops. I doubt they'd go for a hard buss on scum!TLK WHEN ANOTHER BUDDY WAS LIKELY THE OTHER LEADING WAGON.)
So I'm actually willing to say town!TLK -> the designated mislynch for scum D1.
So what follows, is that we are looking for Ramcius + Karmeleon + one in...the remaining wagons with all 2 votes in them.
We have to look for a name that kept coming up the most during D1 as a potential lynch in the pool of Ultimate Liars, Xtoxm, DrewVa.
One of the six who was on these three is the remaining scum.
In post 8694, Nev and Max wrote:In post 8693, profii wrote:
2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum
I got the fruit
If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me
I’m confused?
Don't worry, I'm starting to think drew is flailing scum. Their planned mislynching of us has fallen apart. D has resorted to snorting in disbelief at most posts. Nancy has withdrawn from our tet-a-tet completely. They are running off the rails.
In post 8773, Nev and Max wrote:In post 8751, DrewVa wrote:In post 8706, Nev and Max wrote:And your chain of events makes things look worse for you, because you were the one who prompted tlk to out his gift.
How so? If anything it helps confitown Penguin because he was obviously trying to alignment cop TLK and had TLK not received the stickyfruit, Penguin would have both prevented TLK mislynch and town!McQueen death.
And I can come up with a story explaining my theory as well. Neither of us have any proof to support our claims, and we each see merit in our own version of events. Im not going to get into a wall off trying to prove my point, because I cant.
I can point out that if we are 1v1 Bef v Profii i need someone to explain why scumBEF gives the sticky fruit to town!profii night 1?
In post 8775, Nev and Max wrote:In post 8769, DrewVa wrote:In post 8768, Nev and Max wrote:This theory would need BEF to have gained a shot somewhere. Where did the extra shot come from when BEF lost his game night 1?
There is no indication that every PR in the setup is one-shot; Profii claims his variant role is not one-shot, my variant role is not one-shot, and there is therefore no reason to conclude that the boon role of sticky fruit vendor would be one-shot, especially if it was a scum sticky fruit vendor in this setup. Therefore we do not need to demonstrate that BEF is a one-shot SFV given all we have to support that argument is his word on that matter.
-d
So BEF lied about being 1 shot? Why give it to town at all?
In post 8891, Nev and Max wrote:By all means, continue to try and diminish and belittle. Its very becoming.
In post 10446, Auro wrote:In post 4174, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:I’d bet money on Nero being town in this game.
I remember Nancy hard TR'd Nero and that factored into my confidence in him being town as well. xD Sigh. I hate this.
In post 10447, Nero Cain wrote:oh, Nancy is gonna have a field day with end game.
I was really surprised that Elsa was town reading me after I tunneled him half the game.
In post 10448, Elsa Jay wrote:To be fair, I read Nancy's list too and decided it was right.
In post 10451, Nero Cain wrote:So in a way Nancy really won this game for me and not on my own merit. That's kinda depressing.
In post 10460, Nero Cain wrote:Also, to explain the three deaths last night. We nk'd Jingle, Una died thanks to targeting Xtoxm and Dave died b/c he was vigged.
That's right, Nancy sent a vig to xtoxm.
So Nancy hard town read me, put me in multiple Boonus rounds and gave us a vig kill.
Although, Nancy is in no way responsible for this and she shouldn't feel bad and none of you should give her any grief over it.
In post 10462, Nero Cain wrote:I'm p sure that Nancy did claim and Xtoxm confirmed. I think he fake claimed shooting Elsa.
In post 10463, Nero Cain wrote:I wish Boon was around so he could do w/e write up and release the dead chat.
Maybe a Nancy selfie and her reaction to finding out I was scum.
In post 10502, RCEnigma wrote:Definitely well played. I probably should have held my tongue on the neighborhood but I just went through my pts and saw an extra room and derp.
I hard townread Nero and xtoxm all game and I couldn't really put together when a multitask would have came out. I was under the assumption that all prizes we're claimed up to like day 4.
In post 10521, Boonskiies wrote:In post 10517, Krazy wrote:In post 10513, davesaz wrote:Also, like I said in the dead chat, GOTY nom incoming, and whatever we call the new mechanic one for the combination of confessional voting and BOONus rooms.
I'm not sure that I ended up liking the secret voting but the boonus rounds were a neat mechanic
I imagine it was hard, but I don’t even really think it was secret voting. It forced a lot of discussion.
It was essentially just a different type of social game, I feel.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand the secret voting being weird, and I definitely won’t be doing that again anytime soon, but I loved having the Confessionals for this game.
In post 10525, Creature wrote:In post 10524, Ramcius wrote:Secret voting was cool mechanic and forced people to do more actual scumhunting instead of relying on VCA
Nah, it was annoying and would rather not play under that mechanism again, atleast not as town.
In post 10526, Gollum wrote:Kinda offended that you guys think my scum game is so bad that I couldn't win.
In post 10577, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 10526, Gollum wrote:Kinda offended that you guys think my scum game is so bad that I couldn't win.
Who are you?
In post 10575, Boonskiies wrote:Without the secret voting, the Super Saint wouldn’t have been nearly as cool in this setup, haha. I think it forced a different kind of discussion, which I liked.
In post 10530, Boonskiies wrote:It’s just different and a side of Mafia that people generally don’t have to think or worry about. I knew going in that the choice would be annoying, but it definitely worked out, and I don’t think this game would as been as great had it not had the secret voting.
In post 10538, Xtoxm wrote:In post 10530, Boonskiies wrote:It’s just different and a side of Mafia that people generally don’t have to think or worry about. I knew going in that the choice would be annoying, but it definitely worked out, and I don’t think this game would as been as great had it not had the secret voting.
i enjoyed the secret voting
it took a little getting used to on day one but then was fine imo
im not a player that really bothers much with vca or wagon analysis anyway