In post 195, Almost Chara wrote:In post 128, Ramcius wrote:so it started...
A50, are you scum? Tell me, so i can ignore you for the rest of the game
@Mod does sk counts as multiball?
SK does not count as Multiball.
he's scum, but i'm town and he promised to help me this game. so you can listen to him.
it's certainly better than listening to me!
bye for now! i have things to do.
fishy is probably town for that last post, too. at least enough to say so early game.
~Chara
In post 206, Something_Smart wrote:How did you guys manage to add seven pages while I was asleep without saying anything useful.
In post 219, Nev and Max wrote:
How would a bus driver make someone show up as going to 2 places? Why are you answering for Elsa?
In post 224, Nev and Max wrote:In post 222, Ramcius wrote:See, i told you it's not a place for you, guys, you don't even know how basic roles, such as bus driver works...
Explain to us how a bus driver would allow someone followed to show up as visiting 2 places. Please. Then you can continue to be condescending.
In post 227, Nev and Max wrote:In post 226, Ramcius wrote:In post 224, Nev and Max wrote:In post 222, Ramcius wrote:See, i told you it's not a place for you, guys, you don't even know how basic roles, such as bus driver works...
Explain to us how a bus driver would allow someone followed to show up as visiting 2 places. Please. Then you can continue to be condescending.
I can't explain something I never said, but I'll give you a hint - what will happen, if tracker will target bus driver?
I looked at the wiki for BD again, you're right, I was thinking of a redirector. Why do you have to be such a dick about things? Are you one of the people we exposed as a catfish?
In post 241, Almost Chara wrote:In post 128, Ramcius wrote:A50, are you scum? Tell me, so i can ignore you for the rest of the game
There are quite a few fundamental errors in this message:
1- Do you expect Scum to answer this truthfully?
2- If I said yes, would you believe me?
3- If I said no, does it clear me?
5- Why would you want to ignore me rather than lynch me if I was scum?
6- You can't even ignore me. I'm the loudest voice in your head, and you know it.
7- There's too many men, too many people making too many problems.
8- What's the colour of money? (Don't tell me that you think it's green. Me? I know it's red.)
9- I bet you didn't even notice there was no #4
In post 426, DrewVa wrote:In post 422, Ramcius wrote:
i don't like this. Assumption on scum having pre game chat and votes in main thread do nothing, so why scum wouldn't make them in RVS stage?
What part don’t you like - the townread on us, or you dislike this post?
But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
In post 498, Elsa Jay wrote:He's doing better then the other AFK crew that can end the day. Don't grill him for wanting the game to go forward.
In post 501, Alonzo wrote:
Eventually yes. I'm spread to thin between games/modding RN, I shoulda stuck to my original plan of joining as a sub in this one.
Consider me on unofficial VLA till things calm down a bit.
Why is Elsa scum?
In post 508, Alonzo wrote:only to the blind
In post 510, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 505, Ramcius wrote:yes, I have extensive list of people I prefer dead, Elsa is one of them
How is this any better then me cheering for the fish's demise? Oh right, it's not.
Listen, I know I'm not having a grand track record in mafia. I'll probably be lynched later, so answer me this:
What do you even get if you lynch me now? What information do you get if I die?
In post 386, Elsa Jay wrote:We got too many people. More then 23 including the Hydras. We gotta thin the herd.
In post 552, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 500, Xtoxm wrote:Alonzo wanting to end the day early is a little suspect.Emperor flippyNips
Alonzo
Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
Why? Day has to end at some point and avoiding letting the game drag on is a good thing.
In post 678, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Why do one thing per post when I can do many?
Here is my problem - I scumread you based on an ISO skim, I would say it's a tonal thing but even that's a bit of a reach for a description. Since I'm not familiar with you, wouldn't it make sense to ask others what they think? If I ask you, you're bound to tell me this is your towngame regardless of alignment. BUT I guess we could exchange reads instead.
Who are your top two scumreads/townreads?
~ C
In post 770, RCEnigma wrote:Tlk hasn't been back and is my only strong scumread. The bunch of slots dicking around and then scumreading the other slots dicking around for dicking around is annoying but nai for now.
Elsa's get Bef lynched schtick is already old. I encourage slots to continue scumreading me without engaging me or asking my views, specifically my reasoning for townreading BEF.
The exceptions are Nero who has engaged me in a way that I find kind of townie, and cheeky who hasn't expressed a scumread on me, though I feel she is trending that way. She's at least trying to get her scumreads views of the game.
Other townie slots:
I like McQueen, Alonzo, warming up to Almost Chara, Nev is probably spewed town like I said before, and Bef is town.
Liked Ramcius for town early but that dropped some pages agk for reasons I can't recall at the moment but I'll iso to figure it out later.
In post 801, RCEnigma wrote:I don't have a read on Elsa. I don't know their style and I have only been in one game where they replaced into an IC role. Though the game was pretty much over.
In post 824, Elsa Jay wrote:
You still seem to not like my style this game. Shame.
I only seem to "hinder" because half the people aren't here and I like to talk.
In post 828, Elsa Jay wrote:I don't really remember a time where I defended him. Point me to that post?
In post 498, Elsa Jay wrote:He's doing better then the other AFK crew that can end the day. Don't grill him for wanting the game to go forward.
In post 836, Elsa Jay wrote:Thank you for nicely posting the correct point. I'll note that down for later use that you are helpful, so thanks a bunch.
I guess that is defending if you look at it a different way. I guess I should I worded it differently, since I mean't I agreed with the action to help move the gamestate forward.
In post 839, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 837, Ramcius wrote:In post 836, Elsa Jay wrote:Thank you for nicely posting the correct point. I'll note that down for later use that you are helpful, so thanks a bunch.
I guess that is defending if you look at it a different way. I guess I should I worded it differently, since I mean't I agreed with the action to help move the gamestate forward.
It doesn't help to move gamestate, it distracts us from scumhunting into pointless arguments about ending day early
It's only a pointless argument if you keep arguing about it. which we stopped doing. You're bringing it back up, which in turn distracts the game.
What's done is done and he voted to end the day. Isn't that enough for you?
In post 841, Elsa Jay wrote:It is when I'm a townie, which means by default you are either scum going for a mislynch on someone who seems easy to kill or a townie who doesn't have their priorities straight.
In post 969, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 963, Ramcius wrote:I stopped, because I felt Elsa might be really bad town, I don't think scum would admit to not try to progress game and on top hindering our progress with 2 "for fun" scumreads on BEF and Alonso.
You truly underestimate my scum range if you think I couldn't do that as scum.
In post 1007, davesaz wrote:Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.
In post 1025, DrewVa wrote:In post 1015, davesaz wrote:In post 976, DrewVa wrote:Saying, Xslot can die can be townie. OTOH, saying I want Xslot dead, gives me the heebie jeebies.
Leaving aside who xslot is in relationship to the saying, how is one different than the other?
I can anticipate an answer but would like to hear what you think.
Well, I’ve heard townies say the former, more than the latter and the converse, for scum. There are obviously always exceptions but I think it holds in general.
In post 1038, DrewVa wrote:In post 1031, Ramcius wrote:In post 1025, DrewVa wrote:In post 1015, davesaz wrote:In post 976, DrewVa wrote:Saying, Xslot can die can be townie. OTOH, saying I want Xslot dead, gives me the heebie jeebies.
Leaving aside who xslot is in relationship to the saying, how is one different than the other?
I can anticipate an answer but would like to hear what you think.
Well, I’ve heard townies say the former, more than the latter and the converse, for scum. There are obviously always exceptions but I think it holds in general.
Pile me under exception, I know better than even remotely try PL as a scum
Policy lynching?
But I don’t see why Karmelon is scum. I think he’s blatantly obvtown from what I’m seeing so far.
In post 1052, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Idk
Why the massive meta appeal?
In post 1058, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1055, Ramcius wrote:In post 1052, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Idk
Why the massive meta appeal?
Just trying decide, if I want scumread you or not.
Btw, what changed in year? I remember you wanted play with me in GiF's Upick, but now I feel like you was ignoring me
A year ago I still thought I could read you
RFB Rematch changed that
In post 1076, DrewVa wrote:In post 1074, Ramcius wrote:
I tried, 70 pages to read in less than 24h (36/18 17p game), replaced out and never looked back
Their 12/12 beats that. I slept through the whole thing - made a single one vote post on D3 and promptly got shot.
In post 1079, The Last Knight wrote:I just want to point out that you're talking to the person who told me to put you on the counterwagon, while I have said nothing about you other than defending your own right to a public vote.
Have any other reason to read me scum?
In post 1119, The Last Knight wrote:Spoiler:
In post 1143, DrewVa wrote:In post 1141, Ramcius wrote:Saying that it isn't my town meta, when i play differently from my normal town playstyle is a scumslip?
I dunno if i should laugh or cry
You don’t think it’s a weird thing to say? You left out any sort of townie modifiers like “usual” or “typical”, which wouldn’t make it a slip. You straight up said, it wasn’t your towngame. Yep, looks like a slip to me.
In post 1150, Gamma Emerald wrote:Emperor flippyNips
• Alonzo
Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.In post 1111, Ramcius wrote:
yes, it was 2017 and Upick was in February this year, so what's changed since Feb?
Also, i want to note that Gamma has no experience with scum me, so he misreading me in past was town me
Wrong UPick then
In post 1154, The Last Knight wrote:In post 1127, Ramcius wrote:In post 1119, The Last Knight wrote:Spoiler:
Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagon
The contradiction I'm pointing out is this: you told someone to up front ask you if they have a problem with you and then proceeded to ask someone what they thought of someone else. Asking someone how they read someone else is just how the game is played. But if telling someone not to ask others about oneself isn't weird enough, going back on that directive by doing exactly that is pretty suspect.
And this just seems desperate to me.
In post 1242, DrewVa wrote:In post 1237, Ramcius wrote:
I understand, but it isn't OMGUS, i just believe you and TLK are scumbuddies, you literally accept all his shade towards me and ignore all arguments i give against it
So, if I agree with someone, that makes us “buddies”? I have no idea what TLK is but yeah, I did think his reasoning wrt your posts made sense.
Okay, what are your arguments contradicting his?
In post 1248, DrewVa wrote:In post 1247, Ramcius wrote:In post 1242, DrewVa wrote:In post 1237, Ramcius wrote:
I understand, but it isn't OMGUS, i just believe you and TLK are scumbuddies, you literally accept all his shade towards me and ignore all arguments i give against it
So, if I agree with someone, that makes us “buddies”? I have no idea what TLK is but yeah, I did think his reasoning wrt your posts made sense.
Okay, what are your arguments contradicting his?
Do i really have to repeat everything i posted in response to him? Is this your admit that you haven't read my response s and pursue me without reading my defence?
I’m asking you a question. You should read it as, I’m asking you a question.
In post 1256, Thanos wrote:In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.
Well, I don't buy that anyone made a slip of that specific nature ("this isn't my towngame") as scum; if you can back that up it'll lend some amount of credibility but as far as my judgment of the legitimacy of the slip itself goes, it doesn't look like one. Also, this is a very weak push.
~A
In post 1287, DrewVa wrote:In post 1258, Ramcius wrote:In post 1256, Thanos wrote:In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.
Well, I don't buy that anyone made a slip of that specific nature ("this isn't my towngame") as scum; if you can back that up it'll lend some amount of credibility but as far as my judgment of the legitimacy of the slip itself goes, it doesn't look like one. Also, this is a very weak push.
~A
DrewVa vent even further and said scumslip was that I didn't used "typical" as in "it's not my typical towngame"
And that doesn’t make any sense to you, why exactly?
In post 1299, DrewVa wrote:Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
In post 1314, DrewVa wrote:In post 1305, Ramcius wrote:In post 1299, DrewVa wrote:Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
I will say one last time - i didn't called TLK scum for counterwagon, i was asked about him, I said I disliked his early pushed and that I dislike how I become his counterwagon from nowhere, I didn't voted him either, so I appreciate, if people stop spreading this false info about me trying lynch TLK or calling him scum for being his counterwagon
Also, I have very aggressive playstyle and my comment to RCE was quite peaceful, Gamma and Nero can vouch that i can be really aggressive and pushy, that's NAI thing to me
So tell me, how you trust TLK so easily, when you were torn between voting him and me, also, I want remind that I literally told you to keep your vote on me, when you was considering jump on his wagon again
Lastly, your opinion on Gamma? He says he have no confidence in reading me anymore (never saw my scumplay), yet comes with really weak reason to vote meIn post 1127, Ramcius wrote:In post 1119, The Last Knight wrote:Spoiler:
Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagonIn post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more power
Disliked before, dislike even more now as i'm becoming his counterwagon
I’m legit confused now. Either I am correctly reading you or we have a REAL misunderstanding in our communication styles?
In post 1320, DrewVa wrote:In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:In post 1304, DrewVa wrote:In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agenda
I recall a post by Boon saying this is singleball and that there’s no SK.
@Ramicius
In post 1397, RCEnigma wrote:Don't know if confessionals are quotable but I've been using mine to gather my thoughts and the lurkers was one of them. The chance scum is in there is pretty good but being so close to the holidays it's not going to be my day 1 push. After the holidays is another story. Ramcius is leaning town, I don't know how aggressive he is as scum though. Thanos is on the scummy side of null.
In post 1443, Alonzo wrote:In post 1428, Ramcius wrote:VOTE: Gamma
There is one thing that i didn't revealed yet about his rambling - RFB Rematch. He was townreading me in that game, i still remember how Gork was asking him about it, when Gork was pushing for my lynch D2, so how Gamma decided he can't read me after a game, where he was correct on my slot all time? Especially, when that game wasn't something you should base your reads off. 32p very large game, I get pissed off mid D1 and I stopped reading thread after no one cared about my pushes, yet he think he can't read me anymore. But we are here, he votes me, says I have some secret agenda (guess i'm jester and want get lynched D1 with my pushes).
But you are free PLing some lurker, or Alonzo, or other troll, choice is yours
we scum read gamma for the same reasons, yet you consider me a SR?
In post 1525, DrewVa wrote:In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH, immediately leaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.
In post 1527, DrewVa wrote:In post 1526, Ramcius wrote:In post 1525, DrewVa wrote:In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH, immediately leaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.
I still think that you are scum, simply I need Gamma's and TLK heads first
Why?
I’m not though. If I were scum here, I would have never unvoted you. Why would I, when your wagon is clearly viable? Scum usually only jumps off a wagon, when they perceive it as not viable. I still don’t townread you, for all of the i initial reasons I originally voted you but I liked your response to it. While your scumread on me is obviously incorrect, it doesn’t read scummy to me, if that makes any sense?
In post 1533, DrewVa wrote:In post 1529, Ramcius wrote:In post 1527, DrewVa wrote:In post 1526, Ramcius wrote:In post 1525, DrewVa wrote:In post 1522, Thanos wrote:I think a drewva lynch would benefit town more than any other lynch btw
This type of thinking rarely comes from town. You just are calling for out lynch, rather than address the concerns mentioned in my post.
You don’t even seem at all concerned if you mislynch. I OTOH, am actually trying to sort you but your refusal to respond to my concerns is troubling and you’re calling for my lynch instead of doing that is beyond scummy.
Contrast this with how Ram responded to my push on him earlier. He only though I might be scum, because he didn’t see me fhpov, trying to sort him. It was clearly a miscommunication in that case but Thanos OTOH, immediately leaps to that conclusion, when all I was trying to accomplish by expressing my concerns, was to obtain some sort of satisfactory response to them, which Thanos outright dismissed.
I still think that you are scum, simply I need Gamma's and TLK heads first
Why?
I’m not though. If I were scum here, I would have never unvoted you. Why would I, when your wagon is clearly viable? Scum usually only jumps off a wagon, when they perceive it as not viable. I still don’t townread you, for all of the i initial reasons I originally voted you but I liked your response to it. While your scumread on me is obviously incorrect, it doesn’t read scummy to me, if that makes any sense?
If either of Gamma or TLK flips town, I promise reconsider my read on you
Fine but what does our slot have anything to do with either of them? Just because I’m townreading a slot you don’t, doesn’t make me linked with them. In fact, if you knew anything at all about my meta, you’d know that I never hard defend my buddies as scum. If a slot I’m hard defending ever flips scum, it’s A) I’m town and misread them. B) It’s multiball and I’m still clueless about their alignment. C) I’m actually a scum traitor and/or my survival in a game, literally depends on them endgaming iit.
Checkout Heroes Wanted, where I was groupscum or any of my towngames, if you don’t believe me. I never KNOWINGLY ever go to bat for scum, unless my life in a game depends on them surviving. Why? Because I obviously know that their hypothetical red flip damns me and I’d be following in their footsteps.
Other than the above reasons I mentioned, I only ever go out on a limb for townreads. I’m town here and not a scum traitor btw.
In post 1603, Nero Cain wrote:
you aren't a lurker bro. There's also like a ton of scum motivation in being a lurker and lurker scum is actually a pretty common thing so...
In post 1614, Nero Cain wrote:you are? News to me.
I feel like you are just trying to say things to make me look scummy and hope they stick.
In post 1703, The Last Knight wrote:
Also, want to point out that Gamma and I haven't really addressed each other, so your flimsy guilt by association attempts are just getting bad at this point.
In post 1724, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1703, The Last Knight wrote:
Also, want to point out that Gamma and I haven't really addressed each other, so your flimsy guilt by association attempts are just getting bad at this point.
This is a lie, I have stated a TLK townread
Kinda doubting that because of this though
In post 1736, Gamma Emerald wrote:Spoiler:
Yeah it’s suspicious. I think TLK may have freaked out about being suspected in association. Not sure why though because the last time I got that feeling, 1) the person was Town and 2) it was White Flag and this isn’t unless Boon doesn’t think that bears mentioning. So the logic is shaky to start with and the motive is not yet apparent.
As for my team preparing to sacrifice me lol no, if I was the fall guy I’d probably have more traction, and if it were normal voting mechanics I’d be lynched. For a solid example of a game where I was the designated bus go read Mini 1911. That was STRUCTURED.
In post 1750, DrewVa wrote:In post 1734, Ramcius wrote:In post 1724, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1703, The Last Knight wrote:
Also, want to point out that Gamma and I haven't really addressed each other, so your flimsy guilt by association attempts are just getting bad at this point.
This is a lie, I have stated a TLK townread
Kinda doubting that because of this though
Isn't it funny how you both want me dead, refuse vote each other and TLK makes such statement?
It looks like your team is preparing to sacrifice you, DrewVa isn't backing up their gutread on you and saying there's a chance you can flip red. TLK isn't switching to you despite all resistance to my wagon, while he's still top one, but then he says he didn't addressed you yet. Tell me it's not suspicious at all
There’s no “team” involving us. We are still tr Gamma, so. get a freaking paranoia check.
In post 1755, DrewVa wrote:In post 1740, Ramcius wrote:
Both, you aren't designated fall guy, but if pressure on you becomes too strong, they are already preparing for your lynch instead of trying to save you.
So, how about you answer my question about TLK now?
Have you ever considered becoming an anchor for Fox news?
In post 1763, DrewVa wrote:
Gamma or TLK?
I feel pretty good about Gamma rn. I’m not quite sure how to read TLK, given that he’s a forum newb. I tend to be leery in general of lynching the lhf D1, because more often than not, they wind up flipping town. Due to his lack of forum experience, I’m wondering if he’s just kind of awkward town. I obviously could be wrong here but I’ve mislynched more awkward players than him, who actually did have some forum experience but FL says he’s a forum newb but not a Mafia newb, so I really couldn’t tell you. Rn, I’m leaning to maybe vote flippy, since he hasn’t done anything so far.
In post 1766, DrewVa wrote:In post 1764, Ramcius wrote:In post 1763, DrewVa wrote:
Gamma or TLK?
I feel pretty good about Gamma rn. I’m not quite sure how to read TLK, given that he’s a forum newb. I tend to be leery in general of lynching the lhf D1, because more often than not, they wind up flipping town. Due to his lack of forum experience, I’m wondering if he’s just kind of awkward town. I obviously could be wrong here but I’ve mislynched more awkward players than him, who actually did have some forum experience but FL says he’s a forum newb but not a Mafia newb, so I really couldn’t tell you. Rn, I’m leaning to maybe vote flippy, since he hasn’t done anything so far.
Let's PL lurker, what a great idea
Do you know what a PL even means? And I was only referring to our vote btw. Flippy hasn’t made a single game-reated post - unless of course, you qualify threatening to vote to end the day prematurely as “game related”. Not a single read, so I don’t see why that’s such a horrible vote.
In post 1797, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1615, Ramcius wrote:You want me lynched, yet you do nothing to get people on my wagonIn post 1059, Nero Cain wrote:lets lynch in
2. Ultimate Liars (Kokichi /Hebichan)
8. Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer)
9. Theta Alpine
10. Elsa Jay
17. Ramcius
19. Emperor flippyNips
21. Emperors New Groove
22. RCEnigmaIn post 1121, Nero Cain wrote:ok with any of the slots I listed earlier. Of those Ram is the only one with a wagon on him.In post 1125, Nero Cain wrote:already changed my vote dear.In post 1579, Nero Cain wrote:let's not get off target and lynch Ram
There's not really anything I can do besides advocate your lynch and call you scum. If I was a daycop I'd have targeted you a long time ok.In post 1615, Ramcius wrote:And i'm not interested in your lynch, but if vig takes you out, i'd be grateful
this comes from town never.In post 1616, Ramcius wrote:Also why Emperors and UL? SS, Dave and Theta have similar amount of posts
I mentioned Theta a few pages ago and just b/c I didn't remention her doesn't mean anything has changed. When you scum hunt (which you aren't doing btw) you have to make judgment calls based on content and/or meta. I just remember nodding along with SS and Dave isn't an easy read for me. I don't even know if I've played with scum him before but he just always seems so low impact and lurky. His dead null.
In post 1874, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1818, Ramcius wrote:Lurker = null without content and associations
semi-active null = null with no content (so bunch of useless posts) and have associations
so why first one is better than second?
If can't think answer, sign for "Vig Nero" petition
Why not lynch Nero lol
In post 1895, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1881, Gamma Emerald wrote:I did read and I didn’t see it.
He's saying that he wants to have most of his scum reads vigged. He's not really explaining why they should be vigged over lynched but "I want them vigged" is his explanation.In post 1873, Gamma Emerald wrote:What are you saying about him with it, that he’s too focused on future problems than current ones?
I'm saying that he's not worrying about something that's staring him in the face.
I'm voting Ram. Sheep me tonight for a scum lynch.
In post 1898, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?
In post 1902, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1899, Ramcius wrote:In post 1898, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?
I literally said that, when you asked last time. I said you're 4th on my scum list and I want lynch in other 3 first, I'm calling Gamma/TLK/DrewVa scumteam for a week already, I'm questioning them about their TR on each other for a while now, getting nothing. I really need one of them to flip, so i know, if I'm on right path or not. You are just a side project, so if you get vigged, less hassle for me in future dealing with you (I might get lucky and eat bullet before that too)
oh no, I've committed the unforgivable sin of not remembering something on the internet.In post 1880, Ramcius wrote:In post 1874, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1818, Ramcius wrote:Lurker = null without content and associations
semi-active null = null with no content (so bunch of useless posts) and have associations
so why first one is better than second?
If can't think answer, sign for "Vig Nero" petition
Why not lynch Nero lol
If you actually read thread, you'd know answer, Nero asked that at least twiceIn post 1881, Gamma Emerald wrote:I did read and I didn’t see it.
I mean you could have just explained it to Gamma but I guess since you're scum there's no need to be helpful.
In post 1905, DrewVa wrote:In post 1899, Ramcius wrote:In post 1898, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?
I literally said that, when you asked last time. I said you're 4th on my scum list and I want lynch in other 3 first, I'm calling Gamma/TLK/DrewVa scumteam for a week already, I'm questioning them about their TR on each other for a while now, getting nothing. I really need one of them to flip, so i know, if I'm on right path or not. You are just a side project, so if you get vigged, less hassle for me in future dealing with you (I might get lucky and eat bullet before that too)
Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore? If you don’t think I hardtunnel as town, you don’t know jack about my meta.
In post 1907, DrewVa wrote:In post 1906, Ramcius wrote:In post 1905, DrewVa wrote:In post 1899, Ramcius wrote:In post 1898, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?
I literally said that, when you asked last time. I said you're 4th on my scum list and I want lynch in other 3 first, I'm calling Gamma/TLK/DrewVa scumteam for a week already, I'm questioning them about their TR on each other for a while now, getting nothing. I really need one of them to flip, so i know, if I'm on right path or not. You are just a side project, so if you get vigged, less hassle for me in future dealing with you (I might get lucky and eat bullet before that too)
Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore? If you don’t think I hardtunnel as town, you don’t know jack about my meta.
I admit that I have no clue about your meta, also, I want to inform you that I use only something I witnessed myself. To answer second part, I have no reason to townread either of you and your "stop tunnel us, we don't vote you anymore" sounds really funny
What’s funny about it? Are you usually this bad at Mafia?
In post 1918, DrewVa wrote:What? Haven’t you been reading my posts? I’m voting CD for Performer’s blatant misrep and bs shade. So, yeah, they are my #1 scumread rn.
In post 1921, DrewVa wrote:
What about it seems weak to you?
Performer mischaracterized our posts trying to figure out who we should vote for. You didn’t, because you criticized my possibly considering voting flippy.
But the most damning part, was when Performer - I’m stressing this, because it wouldn’t necessarily have been suspicious coming from Cheeky - called us “conniving” - implicitly implying he is familiar with my scumgame, eventhough he has never even once played with me as scum.
So, that was clearly bs shade on us.
In post 1934, Gamma Emerald wrote:Spoiler:
Did you think that cos I said “lol”
I actually cared a little, and if you thought I didn’t care why direct me to the answer?
In post 1953, Nev and Max wrote:In post 1950, Ramcius wrote:Problem with anonymous voting is that we can't know, if our designated person will vote TLK. If they scum, they won't and force us to lynch them D2, so someone else will die instead to venge kill
i thought i read there will be a VC with vote totals
or did i imagine that when i was hallucinating?
~M
In post 1954, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 1950, Ramcius wrote:Problem with anonymous voting is that we can't know, if our designated person will vote TLK. If they scum, they won't and force us to lynch them D2, so someone else will die instead to venge kill
That's what the vigilante is for, obviously. If someone elsa dies to the supersaint, they get shot.
In post 2065, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 1922, Ramcius wrote:Hmmmmm, you try bring up your town meta to convince me despite fact that we never played in past, but it's damning that Performer says he knows your scum meta? You don't consider fact that Cheeky could tell him, or he might've done some research, that's 2 easy explanations that comes to my mind right ahead
Ramcius are you an alt of someone??...
~ P
In post 2075, Nero Cain wrote:In post 2042, mcqueen wrote:I agree with this. Your infatuation with lynching lurkers on day 1 is slightly bothersome.
I've yet to even vote for a lurker. (all my votes have been on RCE, Cheeky or Ram. Currently, I'm not voting anyone b/c I thought we were going to do the plan were we use TLK as a double lynch.) I'm just mature enough of a player to know that lurking is a good place for scum to hide out and of our lurkers, several of their scumgames/meta involve being a lurksack. Lurkers suck and I don't like them. Why do I have to scum read active players?
I think Ram is just scum trying t make me look bad by claiming that I'm exclusively hunting lurkers. I also think that his "don't lynch in the lurkers!" means he has a buddy or two there.
In post 2083, Nero Cain wrote:I highly doubt I was lurking and if I was why do you even think I'm scum this game then?
In post 2211, DrewVa wrote:It would be really helpful to know who is voting, Flippy, Profil and Cheeky. But Nero is a terrible vote and he seems locked into that vote and ignoring other reads on that slot.
In post 2246, Nero Cain wrote:b/c I'm pushing my scumread. I'm pretty sure that's my job as town. I just think his "don't lurker hunt!" is scummy. I think his whole thing about not enjoying this game and all that jazz is ATe. His scumreads are 3 people that scumread him and the claimed SS-wich is prob town. I mean, yuck.
In post 2254, Nero Cain wrote:you keep ignoring the fact that I haven't even voted a lurker. And there's a healthy wagon on a lurker that might be scum anyways.
In post 2275, Nero Cain wrote:Emperor flippyNips
• Alonzo
Mcqueen
Xtoxm
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
obviously.![]()
I mean, your accusation that you and Cheeky have both been "shallow non-commital" pushes isn't anything approaching the truth and a guy whose sole "scum reads" are the people that suspect him and a prob town SS claim really doesn't have a leg to stand on.
In post 2419, mcqueen wrote:
Can you not ask to die? It’s annoying and doesn’t contribute
Maybe they kept you alive because people are scumreading you?
In post 2514, Alonzo wrote:
My other main issue is that a meta read on a quiet slot got us results yesterday, why change tactics?
If theres a little meta tell on Theta It should be dealt with...
In post 2675, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2651, Ramcius wrote:I don't really follow you. How rolecop is towny role? I've seen it way more often as a scum role than town one in other games
It can be a town role. Use it to find scum outright, or to clear townies. If, as town, you role cop someone and then they say something that puts them at odds with what you know, boom you have a lead.
Why couldn't it be town?
In post 2691, Nero Cain wrote:In post 2406, BrightEyedFish wrote:I was hoping for an AC filled D2 but that won't happen.
Why did you want him to be here on d2?In post 2410, Ramcius wrote:I'm dissapointed in all of you, scum included
Why? We lynched scum. I'm sure you are disappointed that Nips lurked and got lynched though.In post 2411, DrewVa wrote:gifted it to someone you wouldn’t expect
I mean, I'm right here. Sure scum can't leave me alive in LYLO but I would have used the vig before then. I'm just really heartbroken Nancy. But real talk, why would you not give it to me?
In post 2460, Alonzo wrote:Anyone corroborate Gammas Room C stories?
Why does this matter?
I don't know if this stuff continues beyond this point but it all seems very very dumb to me. Boons mini show-off game has two "alignments" blue and pink and thus has no relevance to the Christmas colors in the main game.
Its past now but I instantly wanted to claim.
I don't know why Nancy would ask if there was more than one room but I'm willing to buy that she was told by Boon.
In post 2695, Nero Cain wrote:In post 2694, Ramcius wrote:ignore fact that I've put literally 0 efforts right before deadline to sway lynch despite seeing pushes on "my scumbuddy"
How am I ignoring that? Yeah, you did nothing. I guess what you are claiming is that you cannot be scum with FN b/c you didn't try to derail his lynch and that's possible I guess but it's also possible that you didn't want to risk defending a dying buddy,
In post 2698, Nero Cain wrote:..............
you don't think ppl would be the least bit suspicious if you tried to sway from the FN lynch? Either you are the most tone-deaf townie ever or you are scum that just shrugging off any criticism.
In post 2706, davesaz wrote:Wow, that's amazing that almost nobody posted during my catchup. Maybe I'll be able to keep up...
I was in BOONus room B, with Almost Chara and Karm. Karm and I "won" the minigame, and got a +1 and choice of (Disloyal, Loud, and a 3rd thing that I can't remember offhand). We had the option of keeping or gifting, same as the other BOONus rooms. Hopefully Karm will remember the 3rd modifier. It seems that the game will end up with a good number of us having roles that resemble the way that Boon plays the game in every setup -- wild!!![]()
Profii, I feel like I should read the setup posts to see if that ability to gift someone is even a possible role in the setup (could be wrong though, maybe one slot can be an out of the blue new thing??). Care to share anything else about how you got that?
In post 2842, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2840, Ramcius wrote:BEF, are you have strong townread on other 3 day reps?
Ram, this sentence is put together in an odd way, but I think it might explain something. Is English your first language? Totally cool if it's not, just would help me understand your posts a little better since I feel like I'm missing a tiny thing each time.