In post 239, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I get that, but I think keeping the votes hidden makes it harder for scum. If you want to post who you are voting for go ahead but just be careful because scum could be a Day Representative and end the day early if they see a wagon building on town.
Speaking of Day Representatives, anyone have any thoughts on how they are chosen yet?
In post 297, Xtoxm wrote:Literally doing our own vcs and wagoning in the normal way though, isn't something I'm interested in here.
In post 479, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah what I thought was salt from town!Nero was just sass
Now to see if profii’s assertion holds
In post 1072, DrewVa wrote:In post 1067, profii wrote:
i thought if we hit deadline then most votes = lynch
or if the reps vote to end day, same again, most votes goes
we dont have to form a majority i dont think so someone basically is going for sure
But isn’t it better to acheive a town consensus? Also, it the lynch doesn’t logically add up, we know someone lied about their vote.
In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?
In post 1401, Thanos wrote:Can we have a list of lurkers? I personally would rather just lynch them, unless they start posting. It's likely that active posters easily attract votes.
~A
In post 1422, Thanos wrote:In post 1421, RCEnigma wrote:Not game specific, this is the case in any mafia game. It's also right around the corner from Xmas and isn't the place I would expect a scumhunt should originate.
Indeed, but there's also a slight difference in that we can't pressure a slot with our vote since we don't have a public vote -- so it's just reduced to threats.
What's your read on Ultimate Liars? We have a scumlean there.
~A
In post 1431, DrewVa wrote:In post 1397, RCEnigma wrote:Don't know if confessionals are quotable but I've been using mine to gather my thoughts and the lurkers was one of them. The chance scum is in there is pretty good but being so close to the holidays it's not going to be my day 1 push. After the holidays is another story. Ramcius is leaning town, I don't know how aggressive he is as scum though. Thanos is on the scummy side of null.
Aiuro is just naturly scummy.
In post 1440, Something_Smart wrote:In post 1424, profii wrote:It’s like when you say “I’m voting you to pressure you into doing something” - by saying that it loses its effect
I believe by saying “I’m gonna plump for a lurker” means if you try and threaten someone - again you lose the effect
Not necessarily, often it's obvious what you're doing anyway, but threats on a lurker are still threats and might scare them into contributing more.
I say might because especially with the holidays coming a lot of lurkers aren't going to be lurking for game-related reasons.
In post 1486, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 1464, profii wrote:how do we move on from that though?
half the town are for vote counting and half arent - so lets the vote counters are pushing scum, the team mates are surely just going to be like "think ill not say" rather than openly push a counter in the normal fashion.
it's basically impossible to know whats going on. I think I'm going to do what someone mentioned earlier and hunt within the group of people that dont want to openly discuss their vote.
I think that once we enter D2 we should have a good start for information after the D1 flips and NK. If the votes be hidden gets us into trouble then we can try to push people to be more transparent with their votes.
In post 1484, mcqueen wrote:In post 833, RCEnigma wrote:In post 820, Alonzo wrote:You said this game, implying you have previous with profii, and some sort of metric on how you form a read on him.
How did you reach scum! Profii?
Ahh yes I do. Profii is a more vocal/involved player as town in my opinion. He's been present sure but his early game consisted of recommending ways to bring a votecount in that just seemed of to me for a few reasons:
1.) This setup disadvantages town due to the lack of votecount but I would argue it disadvantages Scum even more which leads to point #
2.) A votecount would be nice to have but not necessary. Town can likely coordinate without it. With it present it makes it easier for scum to spread their votes and town blend or throw of votecounts. Which is unfortunate because I think Profii is strong at VCA but not a part of my scum read. Overall I think scum can't afford to look too coordinated or they risk sticking out and that kind of weakens their sway on lynches.
I also don't buy Nero's demeanor being a surprise to Profii and read it as a soft defense of myself or Cheeky, that in itself is minor. But the way Profii came back to that specifically rubs me wrong. I don't get why he would be hung up on it when he's generally a player with a broader sense of the game and the slots around him.
Thank you for asking about my read Alonzo.
As of now, this lands RCE on my town list. Not exactly sure why multiple people keep bringing him up as someone they find scummy. I will do an ISO later, though, so stay tuned for that
In post 1481, mcqueen wrote:In post 795, profii wrote:Alonzo - have your peers said much about ending the day or not? Are they waiting for anything in particular to happen?
Don't understand this post (maybe it's been addressed)
Our only communication as Day reps together is here. We don't get our own private thread or anything
doubt itIn post 1517, Thanos wrote:In post 1513, DrewVa wrote:In post 1495, Thanos wrote:In post 1446, DrewVa wrote:And you assuming we’re being scummy, rather than just wrong.
That's the game thoughAlso, you could be seen as being possibly lamist or tryharding?
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LAMEESist.
At any rate, if you don’t get your partner to stop voting to “end the day”, I’m seriously considering policy lynching you, and this is coming from someone who is opposed to them on principle.
Lamees can’t vote for that, so please make her stop. It’s hella annoying.
Nah, it's cute, and harmless.
I really dislike this post.
You keep making more like these and I may vote you.
Yeah auro went for a bit of a stretch there. It definitely isn't cute.
But can anyone else see drewva is obv scum? Or is it just me.
-lamees
I’d lynch him still tbhIn post 1878, DrewVa wrote:In post 1874, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 1818, Ramcius wrote:Lurker = null without content and associations
semi-active null = null with no content (so bunch of useless posts) and have associations
so why first one is better than second?
If can't think answer, sign for "Vig Nero" petition
Why not lynch Nero lol
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Nero is obvtown Gamma. Don’t make me doubt our tr on you.
In post 2106, RCEnigma wrote:Can we get a consensus on if we are lynching SS before we end the day? Pls ty. I've only skimmed the past 5 pages or so but no one's talking about the important thing for day one.
Think the hammers should be one of the emperors, ramcius, thanos, or like....theta. *don't think ramcius is scum tbh but that's probably one of the d1 kills that would give the most information.
Elsa shoot Profii and I'll bring a cake for the queen.
In post 2211, DrewVa wrote:It would be really helpful to know who is voting, Flippy, Profil and Cheeky. But Nero is a terrible vote and he seems locked into that vote and ignoring other reads on that slot.
In post 2327, Cheeky Dancer wrote:What does Loyal do specifically?
In post 2326, Something_Smart wrote:Loyal is really strong, the other two not so much.
I wouldn't go around giving loyal to a random person though. You want to give it to a weak investigative like motion detector or vanilla cop, because it turns them into a cop.
In post 2332, Something_Smart wrote:Not asking for a cop, I'm talking about an investigative role that right now is almost useless, like vanilla cop, voyeur, or motion detector. Neighborizer also qualifies. If somebody has one of those roles, it's probably worth it to come out.
In post 2548, DrewVa wrote:In post 2544, profii wrote:Oh I might as well claim this
I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
There is no wiki page on sticky fruit. I assume it just gets passed round but I can use it to get that person to cop people
Maybe we can go loyal person -> target -> back to me -> back to secret loyal person -> cop someone -> back to me
And so on?
There’s a fruit vendor in the setup? I don’t know how the “sticky” part affects this. Is that some type of modifier?
how comeIn post 2549, Thanos wrote:In post 2544, profii wrote:Oh I might as well claim this
I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
There is no wiki page on sticky fruit. I assume it just gets passed round but I can use it to get that person to cop people
Maybe we can go loyal person -> target -> back to me -> back to secret loyal person -> cop someone -> back to me
And so on?
Due to the BOOnus round prizes, no one can be town confirmed by cop or any actions anymore imo.
In post 2557, Thanos wrote:In post 2551, profii wrote:how comeIn post 2549, Thanos wrote:In post 2544, profii wrote:Oh I might as well claim this
I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone
There is no wiki page on sticky fruit. I assume it just gets passed round but I can use it to get that person to cop people
Maybe we can go loyal person -> target -> back to me -> back to secret loyal person -> cop someone -> back to me
And so on?
Due to the BOOnus round prizes, no one can be town confirmed by cop or any actions anymore imo.
I can't recall the exact wording but one of the prizes was "this prize will cause all night actions to fail" or something like that. I assume a scum taking this prize would be immune to investigations and other role stuff in the game. Not sure though.
In post 2581, Thanos wrote:In post 2580, BrightEyedFish wrote:tbh, I want all of my posts to talk about how DrewVa is scum and I want all of you to go and faith and believe me but I do feel DrewVa's day will come, the sooner the better... but to progress the game because there are other scum out there I was wondering:
Do you feel we benefited from the hidden votes on D1 and should we continue with hidden votes today and wait for the flip to see the votes or should we all be more transparent today?
No faith needed. I think the hidden votes helped a lot. I feel someone unintentionally bussed.
In post 2696, davesaz wrote:I woke up 8 pages behind and it's still 8 pages.
At the bottom of 101.
Those are some interesting details that Thanos posted.
IIRC Gamma(?) didn't post details.
Thanos, was your game in room C?
Didn't someone claim to have a +1 to give during day yesterday, with what sounded like the same mechanics as the Game A mechanics? Game A players, was there stuff in your room before you started?
I'm going to have more to say about BOONus rounds later. I'd like to finish reading up to at least the point I post this.
In post 2996, Elsa Jay wrote:
Don't put words in my mouth. I just want to talk about apart of the game I can contribute too. I can't do that with this Boon game since I wasnt in any of them. I also can't do anything with the dayrep thing either. So NK and VC analysis is all I got left.
In post 3044, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 2987, Elsa Jay wrote:Has literally nobody asked why AC was killed? We kinda glossed over that.In post 2996, Elsa Jay wrote:
Don't put words in my mouth. I just want to talk about apart of the game I can contribute too. I can't do that with this Boon game since I wasnt in any of them. I also can't do anything with the dayrep thing either. So NK and VC analysis is all I got left.
You can still contribute to that discussion
In post 3049, Elsa Jay wrote:He's trying to imply I'm waiting around too see where the dust settles and propose a mislynch on Theta from my scum perspective, McQueen.
In post 2293, The Last Knight wrote:I think a proper wagon/scumlean is profii. I am obviously not voting for myself because I don't want to be my own hammer on accident. So I just want to be on a reasonable wagon when the day ends. And profii isn't pinging my towndar at all.
VOTE: profii
In post 2380, The Last Knight wrote:In light of profii's reveal and theta's iso being pinging me due to lack of original ideas, I'd vote there. Hadn't really noticed her before. Not sure if I made it back in time though..
In post 2380, The Last Knight wrote:In light of profii's reveal and theta's iso being pinging me due to lack of original ideas, I'd vote there. Hadn't really noticed her before. Not sure if I made it back in time though..
In post 3210, Something_Smart wrote:please explain to me WHAT BENEFIT I GET FROM ROLEFISHING A MOTION DETECTOR AS SCUM.
In post 3437, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 3423, profii wrote:I assume this is a joke regarding [redacted] and McQueen goes straight in with the vote on me.
Yeah it was that joke![]()
Mcqueen was saying things to shade you before that point, but it doesn't look like he was ever ballsy enough to vote you. I sense a lot of waiting for the right spots to jump on people to scumread/going with consensus play. I really didn't like him using sheeping me as an excuse to vote Xtoxm. He's a good vote, still waiting for him to catch up.
~ C
In post 110, profii wrote:Elsa voting ThetaIn post 2392, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 2390, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 2386, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 397, Boonskiies wrote:Technically, SK doesn’t count as being Multiball anywhere on site. However, I advertised the game implying it was Single Ball, and generally if I’m going to straight up confirm it’s not Multiball, I’m not going to put a SK in the game.
@Cheeky
O. Thanks. Anything saying the scum team only have 1 shot?
I'm gonna counter and say is that a bastard mechanic?
Btw I also moved my vote to Theta. Also shitposting in my confessional.
In post 106, profii wrote:Dave on ULIn post 1001, davesaz wrote:I have an active dislike for incessant posting of pictures and videos. Especially when they seem to be intended to convey meaning -- for me they don't even when it might be obvious to most people. I never play videos in particular and wish it were possible to have the browser not show or download them at all. Though that would result in more than a few posts that look empty.
Despite that, DrewVa is a townlean. Ultimate Liars is a scumlean. Karmeleon townlean. Nero townlean.
Keeping track of things is still a pain without in-thread voting, you don't get the flow info. I'm worried that town will have too little info to go on.
In post 3452, DrewVa wrote:profii where are you on Ram rn? -d
In post 3567, Nero Cain wrote:Ram and McQueen are my top 2 lynches though I'd verbally support a TLK wagon even though I don't scum read him and I don't know why he's being scumread. Like yeah, the whole "he's scum fakeclaming SS" I understand but I don't really get why he was being scumread prior to claim, I've asked but no one has responded to me.
In post 3675, RCEnigma wrote:In post 3670, DrewVa wrote:In post 3660, RCEnigma wrote:Hopefully Elsa or UL/Kokichi.
I thought Kokichi’s re-entrance in the thread was townie. He made it a point of stating that it was Hebi that voted us, so he isn’t sr us and I think that scum!Kokichi would not hesitate to have jumped on our wagon. So, I’m not currently interested in voting there.
Can you explain the case on Elsa again? Neither DVa or myself have a clue what to make of his recent posting.
It was mostly around the end of day wagon. So Elsa proposed Theta's Lynch end of day. I assume as a policy thing, she only had two posts about theta before her ultimatum of Lynch or Vig shot.
Several slots voiced their willingness to vote there before it ended up on flippy so if any wagon was a counterwagon I would argue it was Theta with votes swinging off of Theta right at the end.
That's what I gathered from the iso and it all focuses on the 28th if anyone else wants to view the context.
The original argument was the timing of Elsa's vote around the discussion of flippy as the Lynch, which she was active for but didn't participate in. I just don't feel all of the mafia were passive in allowing their partner to go down.
I haven't followed anything involving her claims and volunteering to hammer the SS claim comes a day late to be relevant.
In post 3884, RCEnigma wrote:In post 3861, DrewVa wrote:No, I am analyzing Profil’s case on you and it’s obvious, he seems to think this.
Yeah well Profiis case boils down to "this guy wants to end the day early and Lynch my scumread, that's scummy."
So there's that.
Profii are you suggesting multiple scum in the circle of ram/TLK/McQueen/BEF?
If your assertion is that Scum!Bef is making a play to lynch McQueen it would probably be town!McQueen. In that case you would have to think either TLK is fake claiming with bef and Bef is gunning for Ram whom is probably town if it's Before/TLK or Bef/Ram is scum theater and after a day 1 Lynch on scum Ram is a designated bus. Because Bef has pretty much set Ram up to die. That would also mean TLK's SS claim is legit and Scum!Ram is suiciding anyway.
In post 3880, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Oh no Una is scum![]()
You're terrible with your logic slips as scum Una lmao.
In post 3920, UnaBombaH wrote:First of all, it stings me to my very core when you guys say I have a "scum tell" and make "terrible slips as scum"..In post 3902, profii wrote:In post 3880, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Oh no Una is scum![]()
You're terrible with your logic slips as scum Una lmao.
This is a good scum tell on Una generally - however like they’re obvious when you’re watching from a dead thread - hes good at getting away with it when you don’t know the game solution - if he has made an obvious derp id be amazed - una has a high BoP from me though, he’s sneaky
Especially since I think that so far neither of you has never caught me as scum..right?
In post 4005, Something_Smart wrote:In post 4000, Thanos wrote:Something_Smart, who are your biggest scumreads right now? Who are you voting?
~Auro
I'm voting nobody.
I don't have anyone below "this person could be scum" but at that level I have you, Xtoxm, BEF. Maybe Elsa, like others I don't really scumread him per se but wouldn't mind having him out of the game. Ramcius is a massive question mark and probably worth leaving alive until some of the people who have strong opinions on him flip.
Mostly at this point I'm trying to add to my townreads: Alonzo, mcqueen, N&M, TLK, Nero, profii. Una's catchup is pretty good, Gamma and RCE might be town also.
I intend to consolidate on a wagon that's not on one of my townreads, but not until the day is close to ending.
In post 4076, davesaz wrote:If Creature is scum and Mcqueen is town then why wouldn't he push Mcqueen as the mislynch? I'm leaning toward both scum on that interaction. Maybe try to split the vote so they can nudge someone else over the line?
In post 4123, Nero Cain wrote:In post 4117, Creature wrote:Thanos 0-0-0
Ultimate Liars 0-0-0
Profii 0-0-0
Mcqueen 0-0-0
Davesaz 0-0-0
The Last Knight 0-0-0
Cheeky Dancer 0-0-0
Theta Alpine 0-0-0
Elsa Jay 0-0-0
Something_Smart 0-0-0
Gamma Emerald 0-0-0
Xtoxm 0-0-0
DrewVa 0-0-0
BrightEyedFish 0-0-0
Ramcius 0-0-0
Nev and Max 0-0-0
Alonzo 0-0-0
Emperors New Groove 0-0-0
RCEnigma 0-0-0
Nero Cain 0-0-1
you do realize that you've done this exact same thing as scum b4, right?
In post 4129, RCEnigma wrote:In post 4123, Nero Cain wrote:In post 4117, Creature wrote:Thanos 0-0-0
Ultimate Liars 0-0-0
Profii 0-0-0
Mcqueen 0-0-0
Davesaz 0-0-0
The Last Knight 0-0-0
Cheeky Dancer 0-0-0
Theta Alpine 0-0-0
Elsa Jay 0-0-0
Something_Smart 0-0-0
Gamma Emerald 0-0-0
Xtoxm 0-0-0
DrewVa 0-0-0
BrightEyedFish 0-0-0
Ramcius 0-0-0
Nev and Max 0-0-0
Alonzo 0-0-0
Emperors New Groove 0-0-0
RCEnigma 0-0-0
Nero Cain 0-0-1
you do realize that you've done this exact same thing as scum b4, right?
I think the fact you replaced him in that game is ironic btw. But yes creature is scum claiming.
In post 4267, Ramcius wrote:In post 4263, profii wrote:
someone else was with me when I moved my vote - there are still quite a lot of players and approx. 40% of people didn't declare votes on day 1 - why cant there be others? Given that 4 was all it took to get a lynch yesterday.
Given that no one voted TLK D1 after SS claim and he wasn't lynched despite being top wagon for most of the day I seriously doubt it gonna happen today, especially, when votes are lining up on me, Mc and Creature. Also you not trying to set up someone for hammer is another indication how much you care about TLK lynch
In post 4270, Ramcius wrote:In post 4268, profii wrote:creature isn't the lynch today. You replace in an alt because you are either caught scum (I didn't get that impression, no VCA obviously but like we know McQueen had 5 votes which should be enough for a lynch, don't feel that with Creature.) or you are trying to survive (this is my guess) so I think Creature is some kind of PR (hi protective, hi scum, hi wifom!)
I mean, replacing rather than just claiming fits in with that - I mean I claimed and didn't die, so scum are obviously avoiding a protective and my role is relatively rubbish so I think the protective should look at Creature not me.
So we can really really easily ignore creature for today, let's see if he gets a viable result for tomorrow (because the protective will stop him being killed, hi wifom!) and if it's good and pro town and sensible and all that jazz, he lives - if he does something wreckless and stupid then he dies.
That's my theory anyway - distinct reasons to look elsewhere today. Even if scum!creature makes up a result it's an associative we can work with.
That's a lot words to say that you don't want to be on Mc wagon
In post 4274, UnaBombaH wrote:Yea, we could.In post 4271, Creature wrote:You know, we can easily get four town day reps.
I personally wouldn't want to be in a list of four names as scum.
But I just don't think we do.
If I was scum, I would have made it a priority to pick a Day-rep. on my team, simply because it's one more level of control I could potentially use/manipulate.
The question isn't "why take it?" the real question is "Why wouldn't I take it everytime?"
Now, we all know NOW that there was a potential "penalty" of sorts hanging around.
(Meaning that we all got the info at the start of today that scum can pick a Day-rep. amongst themselves if they feel like doing so.)
But I'm willing to bet my ass that they didn't know that before us either, and therefore should've picked one 10/10 times.
There's at least one scum in todays day-reps.
Guarantee it.
In post 4298, Ramcius wrote:
Una said me and Karm are scumbuddies from my OMGUS on him and we were his top scumreads after catch up
In post 4352, mcqueen wrote:^nevermind
how am i shading you? it's a clearly bad play. if a pr wants to out, they can, but don't ever do it for them. it's not good townplay. i'm the bad guy here?
In post 4516, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 4513, profii wrote:
over night i cross referenced the posts people on the RAM wagon made nearest to their timestamp on their vote... this was BEFs
So he is in my lynch pool too for day rep shenanigans and the above i think
Infact - I'll start off with a BEF vote and see how it goes... voting now...
You still haven't picked up on it yet.
In post 4554, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw if I’m just getting voted for opposing the Day Rep theory, wouldn’t scum also want a free ticket for a mislynch? I think the wiser place to look for scum is in people who didn’t question it AT ALL. THAT is what I’d anticipate scum doing.
In post 4886, DrewVa wrote:In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today
precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.
we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...
like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
In post 4907, Thanos wrote:Yeah, this is why I informed town on day 2 of all the prizes which could really mess town's power roles up. But gamma was very against this preferring his privacy, think about that. Preferring no one to know you won when prizes like:-immune to night actions-immune to tracking
In post 4947, RCEnigma wrote:I'm mistaken actually, boon bank roles can be variants and in our large there can be 2 variants. Not sure what that means honestly, I don't have any context for what variants roles are.
This is really weird - i got the sticky fruit the day i gave the loyal out and the person who i made loyal is not reacting like they are loyal so i don't think the intended person got it either...In post 5023, PenguinPower wrote:In post 5020, profii wrote:
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
Because you said you made loyal the person who you were giving the sticky fruit to. Obviously, if TLK is lying you didn't give either to him. Probably should have phrased it as a question, but I didn't. oh well.
In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.
Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
In post 5088, DrewVa wrote:In post 5032, profii wrote:In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.
Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.
so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)
So does that mean, some form of redirect is possible?
In post 5320, UnaBombaH wrote:Just want to point out something: I think profii is absolutely capable of doing something as bold as this when scum.
Just because they claim to have spread inventions around, shouldn't townlock them as hard as they apparently have been. (?)
Or is there anything else to absolutely cement them as town?
In post 5331, UnaBombaH wrote:And I want to be clear here profii, my man, I do not currently think you are scum.In post 5328, profii wrote:you are right there is nothing mechanically making me town
I just think your might be way more able as scum than anyone gives you credit for.
You can come across so fking innocent and true, that if we just write you off as town based off of a role..we could be digging our way to a mass grave..
In post 5339, UnaBombaH wrote:While S_S is something close to a perfect 50/50 to me, I'm really getting some gutvibes for scum!dave.In post 5334, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Dave fits in the same category as SS.
I've seen plenty of town!Dave, and I've been scum WITH dave, so I'm thinking my gut might just be correct..
In post 5345, RCEnigma wrote:Dunno I still have my doubts but there are bigger issues.
So like, could I see you getting the stickyfruit and coming up with a plan to "make someone loyal" and cop check a partner as scum? Well sure. That's pretty good tbh.