
I thought the BOONus round was supposed to mimic Mafia?
In post 4996, UnaBombaH wrote:Just to comment on this briefly - I felt comfortable with you/me not winning, only because then pink winning would've required Elsa to play "dirty".In post 4954, mcqueen wrote:I should’ve won, but Una ruined it.
So I was more or less giving Elsa the chance to bone me/us (assuming they were pink) if they felt like being selfish.
Therefore "Elsa solo-winning only by showing their "true colors" < "no one winning" > "you solo-winning" (as I couldn't be sure about your alignment either)
That is also why I made sure to draw the line so that I'd handle our actions as a direct extension of the actual game.
I dislike the way Dva took their "victory" N1. I don't think it outright pins them as scum obviously, but I still think their approach to the game wasn't townlike.
In post 4997, RCEnigma wrote:During our boonus round I thought about the way Drewva handled the game and would agree. Especially with how the day 1 Lynch played out and then getting a game with Alonzo.
Which makes me feel conflicted because otherwise I think Nancy is town and less so Dva which is the opposite of OK 2.
In post 4998, profii wrote:In post 4886, DrewVa wrote:In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today
precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.
we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...
like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
that was subtle way of saying
I don't want to out all the night game people if we are not claiming it today but if people who are involved in the night game think the pattern of winners = day reps is happening again, maybe that points us mechanically at scum!nero because he was already involved in yesterdays reps and the OP said people who weren't involved would get priority so why is nero even there.
but now that thread has come out - why were only 2 games in there or did I read it wrong?
In post 4999, mcqueen wrote:look im not gonna lie. i read through DrewVa’s hydra thread from overkill 2 where they were town and their posts here are very similar. DVa played differently in the boonus round, but so what? Let’s be honest we all want to win. And i buy their reason. If they’re not town in this game I’ll kick rocks in the dead thread/ post game
In post 5011, profii wrote:
feasible - I mean I picked the person I made loyal because I thought I saw a breadcrumb that would make my loyal modifier really awesome for that breadcrumb.
if scum coincidently noticed it as well, then yes
but that's ambitious
I have another theory but I am waiting for something to happen on that front.
In post 5015, UnaBombaH wrote:BTW, anyone hear me "Quack" last night?
I specified my night-action to do it so that my neighbours couldn't hear it, but I might have gotten too carried away with it..
I hope I didn't disturb anyones sleep!
Also: voted for TLK in my confessional.
In post 5020, profii wrote:
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
In post 5022, mcqueen wrote:what the heck is a ducky. is this some sort of joke
In post 5024, UnaBombaH wrote:Asking something like this might not be good for your health..In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
In post 5027, profii wrote:This is really weird - i got the sticky fruit the day i gave the loyal out and the person who i made loyal is not reacting like they are loyal so i don't think the intended person got it either...In post 5023, PenguinPower wrote:In post 5020, profii wrote:
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
Because you said you made loyal the person who you were giving the sticky fruit to. Obviously, if TLK is lying you didn't give either to him. Probably should have phrased it as a question, but I didn't. oh well.
Urgh
In post 5032, profii wrote:In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.
Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.
so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)
In post 5097, davesaz wrote:In post 5027, profii wrote:This is really weird - i got the sticky fruit the day i gave the loyal out and the person who i made loyal is not reacting like they are loyal so i don't think the intended person got it either...In post 5023, PenguinPower wrote:In post 5020, profii wrote:
PP - why do you think I made TLK loyal AND gave him the sticky fruit
bearing in mind i said i thought i saw a breadcrumb of a role that would be awesome for loyal - it was not TLK, i spotted the breadcrumb way before the SS claim but obviously i had until night to fully decide and giving a SS loyal is stupid as if he is legit town i don't want him to only be able to team kill (if that even works like that)
Because you said you made loyal the person who you were giving the sticky fruit to. Obviously, if TLK is lying you didn't give either to him. Probably should have phrased it as a question, but I didn't. oh well.
Urgh
There have been BOONus round prizes that cause ascetic. Would that prevent your invention ability? I would think so...
In post 5102, Cheeky Dancer wrote:@creature well I yawn at your yawns.![]()
Also @creature (and pp) - thank you.
----------In post 4940, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 4938, DrewVa wrote:In post 4911, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Maybe TLK got a little stressed out form the pressure from PP about receiving something last night and just went out on a limb to say he received fruit.
But it seems an odd thing to fakeclaim, especially when he couldn’t have guessed what Penguin would have given him.
Well, profii had the fruit and he said he didn't pass it along to TLK. So either there is some mechainc/role that is redirecting or TLK lied. I would ask profii to say who he intended to give the fruit to but that would out his loyal gift as well so we can forget that from now.
Is it possible for there to be 2 fruit vendors?
Yes to your question.
Regarding the profi passing fruit part and that he claimed inventor, I'm starting to wonder if he should announce who he passed the fruit and his inventions on both nights to. Because more information may help us to discern the liar(s).
In post 5113, Cheeky Dancer wrote:@n&m Cheeky does different dances than me, so it has not been her so far today.
Also @dva or nancy, how you cannot tell , is mind boggling.![]()
-------In post 4882, RCEnigma wrote:I've played with Kokichi town but it was a rep into a lethargic game.
In SSBU Kokichi was lurky as scum but more involved...if that makes sense. Present enough to know what's going on but not draw attention. Active early that game though iirc.
This is true & probably the only thing that stands out for koki's play. As scum he's more involved, he enjoys playing scum more.
However after moderating a scum game of his, he is like creature - very capable to developing their scum play....
~ P
In post 5114, Nev and Max wrote:In post 4932, DrewVa wrote:In post 4856, Nev and Max wrote:In post 4843, DrewVa wrote:like if N&M is scum out of this this is like a crazy bit of theater
I think the room c round 2 peeps are all town
I'll talk with Nancy about the Thanos stuff when she gets on tomorrow hopefully -d
This is quite the flip on us from you. Are you saying that I dont have this type of play in my scum!game?
DVa and me aren’t exactly seeing eye to eye on your slot.
So lets dance and figure this out.
In post 5127, profii wrote:In post 5088, DrewVa wrote:In post 5032, profii wrote:In post 5030, RCEnigma wrote:Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.
Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?
exactly - when i was claiming on day 1 it occurred to me my role wasn't on the list so i asked boon why and he said there can be variants.
so i am one - if we get too many variant claims we become a lynch pool immediately (including me obvs)
So does that mean, some form of redirect is possible?
Nope - Greatest possibility at the moment is TLK flapped in the face of PP asking about receiving and lied as he knew about the existence of the sticky fruit
I don’t want to put any more info out than that but it fits the mechanics without having to consider “did a redirect or hit the person I targeted to be our loyal” which is just a stretch too far for me
In post 5131, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5063, UnaBombaH wrote:I've played with Malakitty once before. (them as Malakittens)
It was a noobie, they were scum.
They were very busy at the time (if I remember correctly they work in a hospital or something), and tried to fakeclaim Doc in the old noobie-setup to escape lynch.
We got 'em, but lost to an in-replacing RC who destroyed my ass as a revenge for some other game where I won them..good times.
Formerfish I THINK I've bumped into somewhere, but can't say where.
Can't because I don't remember for sure..and it might have been on my alt whom I love deeply.
So basically next to no experience with that hydra.
Can you link to the game? This might have been before I was fully back to the site.
I haven’t rolled scum yet besides the infamous A50 game where I was a survivor and lost lmao
-M
In post 5133, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5086, DrewVa wrote:In post 5024, UnaBombaH wrote:Asking something like this might not be good for your health..In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
You mean this is an actual role?
Are the posts so far today on 1/18, coming from nancy or dva?In post 5031, profii wrote:I am so confused but I'm just going to ignore the mechanics because something has gone very wrong haha - I am visiting family this weekend so will be bored and have time to go read stuff and just do regular scum huntings and ting fam yo brap.
Yeah I'm going to be v/la this weekend as well...as is the case for most weekends
~ P
In post 5147, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5066, Lamees wrote:Is it just me or have I seen both formerfish and malakitty both use max? Nev hasnt posted since day 1 I think.
I guess they're just trying to cause confusion or something.
Can anyone confess to giving TLK a sticky fruit last night? If not he's scum.
I dont sign posts, M usually does. The worst youll see is a post from her not signed by accident. I have been posting every day, you are severely misinformed.
In post 5152, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
Still waiting for that answer about their creature tr as well.In post 5143, DrewVa wrote:In post 5133, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5086, DrewVa wrote:In post 5024, UnaBombaH wrote:Asking something like this might not be good for your health..In post 5018, mcqueen wrote:are you claiming what i think you’re claiming elsa
And me answering that question wouldn't likely help either of us as I have no way of knowing what you think you now know, and therefore confirming/denying anything makes no sense.
Just remember that I am a Ducky.
Not a joke.
I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
You mean this is an actual role?
Are the posts so far today on 1/18, coming from nancy or dva?In post 5031, profii wrote:I am so confused but I'm just going to ignore the mechanics because something has gone very wrong haha - I am visiting family this weekend so will be bored and have time to go read stuff and just do regular scum huntings and ting fam yo brap.
Yeah I'm going to be v/la this weekend as well...as is the case for most weekends
~ P
Nancy and why is that relevant?
Because I don't recall nancy town play asking so many strange questions....
--------
Also,
If you have 4 pens and I have 7 peaches, how many chinchillas & trees will fit on the roof? White, because we wear a hospital coat in a vet hospital.
~ P
In post 4856, Nev and Max wrote:Are you saying that I dont have this type of play in my scum!game?
In post 5024, UnaBombaH wrote:I will flip "Town Ducky" when dead - guaranteed.
In post 5037, profii wrote:omg I think I just worked out whats going on
VOTE: TLK
not going to out it yet for protection of the loyal fruit person but I'll say as much as I don't believe TLK has the sticky fruit.
In post 5062, davesaz wrote:Just realized I misread something that makes Elsa much more likely to be town.
In post 5072, PenguinPower wrote:I mean...the fact that N&M haven't once written a 5000 word post should have been a dead giveaway that mastina was not one of the heads.
In post 5100, PenguinPower wrote:wow It's almost like asceticizer gets redirected to rolestopper imo.
In post 5178, Elsa Jay wrote:If it's "broke" but nobody corrects it... Is it really broken?
In post 5195, UnaBombaH wrote:I've actually played with Creature a lot.
I mean, I've finished a little under 40 games on site, and played with Creature something like..ten times? Ballpark.
In post 5305, Nero Cain wrote:DVA is yet to correctly read me unless she's town reading me this game and I don't know it.
In post 5334, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Drewva is just so contrary to my mindset it's worrying.
In post 5300, DrewVa wrote:Something_Smart what are your reads right now? -d
In post 5305, Nero Cain wrote:DVA is yet to correctly read me unless she's town reading me this game and I don't know it.
In post 5310, RCEnigma wrote:Well you kinda townread me, and I townread Nero, which never happens sooo.
In post 5314, DrewVa wrote:Creature is your scum pool limited to Gamma and Thanos? If so can you maybe expand more on your read of Thanos? If not who else is scum? -d
In post 5316, UnaBombaH wrote:..and this should be all that matters.In post 5244, PenguinPower wrote:D3 - PP asks TLK if he liked the gift PP gave him; TLK says he got Sticky Fruit. PP/Profii did not send Sticky Fruit to TLK
Scum!TLK tried to be quick on their feet, and guessed wrong what to fakeclaim.
In post 5320, UnaBombaH wrote:Just want to point out something: I think profii is absolutely capable of doing something as bold as this when scum.
Just because they claim to have spread inventions around, shouldn't townlock them as hard as they apparently have been. (?)
Or is there anything else to absolutely cement them as town?
In post 5324, UnaBombaH wrote:Like...so many things suggest to me that Creature is scum here.
But since no one is listening, I guess I'll have to be more dramatic soon.
@Creature - did you here me "Quack" last night?
In post 5329, UnaBombaH wrote:Nope.In post 5323, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Was it? Great analysis. Are you clearing every person on the Ramcius wagon?
Out of the lynch I'd currently hunch something like:
BrightEyedFish [12/31, 19:35], Mcqueen [1/1, 07:52], Something_Smart [1/13, 09:50] Elsa Jay [1/13, 17:16], DrewVa [1/13, 22:25], The Last Knight [1/13, 23:02], UnaBombah [1/14, 02:22], Nev and Max [1/14, 12:23], Davesaz [1/14, 16:23]
I think I noted TLK as potential scum during my catchup once I had seen the first flips, BUT TOOK A 180 TURN, because I felt so certain about scum!Ramcius+scum!Karmeleon.
Now that I know I was wrong about Ramcius, it's not impossible for scum!Creature to have been on scum!TLK.
In post 5339, UnaBombaH wrote:While S_S is something close to a perfect 50/50 to me, I'm really getting some gutvibes for scum!dave.In post 5334, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Dave fits in the same category as SS.
I've seen plenty of town!Dave, and I've been scum WITH dave, so I'm thinking my gut might just be correct..
In post 5341, profii wrote:In post 5339, UnaBombaH wrote:While S_S is something close to a perfect 50/50 to me, I'm really getting some gutvibes for scum!dave.In post 5334, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Dave fits in the same category as SS.
I've seen plenty of town!Dave, and I've been scum WITH dave, so I'm thinking my gut might just be correct..
I'm the opposite, Dave seems ok but in my gut im like he always seems ok but S_S really bugs me and id be looking closely there if there wasnt other priorities rn
In post 5347, BrightEyedFish wrote:I am assuming that if scum got a hold of the sticky fruit they would pass it around among themselves since they would be immune to all actions, i.e. cop etc.
In post 5348, BrightEyedFish wrote:EBWOP
And they would probably keep it under wraps that they received it. Maybe thats why TLK didn't announce he received the fruit until pushed. Profii on the other hand immediately announced he got the fruit at the start of D2, this makes him town for me.
In post 5354, mcqueen wrote:In post 5186, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5185, Creature wrote:Why did we end up on TLK?
Something to do with TLK stating he got fruit, profi stating he gave TLK nothing, pp stating he gave TLK something but not fruit. I'm ok with TLK's lynch.
Also, pp & TLK still have each other as scumreads since d2 iirc so there's that.
Something I've been wondering is that what if his super saint part is somehow true? Then dave's idea made sense if he was scum super saint...which isn't the first time I've heard of that role implemented like that. Considering the low level of powers for us that we've seen this far, scum super saint makes some sense.
I dont know how we can tell if there is at least 1 scum in the d1 rep. It makes some sense in terms of having at least 1 scum in the 4 but I'd rather focus on other things to scumhunt off of. I havent heard of a reliable enough method to determine that there is at least 1 scum in the day reps.
The claims so far that I can tell:
inventor, vt (and flipped vts), duck, (basically) vigilante, super saint
~ P
Usually dont get stuck up on things like this, but who is us? How would scum super saint make sense if town had few powers? Are you scum?
In post 5362, Gamma Emerald wrote:Just from reading what’s on this page I think CD is a good vote
In post 5367, mcqueen wrote:
scumslip bruh. Rce not a day rep. Agree boon is not doing a great job of keeping track. But you want elsa to be the final vote on town tlk supersaint as scum!you secures a mislynch
In post 5381, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5367, mcqueen wrote:
scumslip bruh. Rce not a day rep. Agree boon is not doing a great job of keeping track. But you want elsa to be the final vote on town tlk supersaint as scum!you secures a mislynch![]()
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How the fuck is that a scumslip? Dude get vigged already.
~ C
In post 5386, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5384, mcqueen wrote:In post 5381, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5367, mcqueen wrote:
scumslip bruh. Rce not a day rep. Agree boon is not doing a great job of keeping track. But you want elsa to be the final vote on town tlk supersaint as scum!you secures a mislynch![]()
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How the fuck is that a scumslip? Dude get vigged already.
~ C
What do u mean how? It clearly shows ur agenda.
My agenda to give this silly town a timestamp from which to check all the scum rushing onto TLK? Try again my bro.
Also this plan was agreed to on like D2. Try again?
In post 5390, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5387, mcqueen wrote:
i thought about it. but do i trust myself in sorting out slips? nah. so i’d rather use tlk’s alignment as an association for you tomorrow, because i want super saint and hopefully miller gone anyway.
So you don't agree with any of my reads but you're going to BoP me? Well I know who's going to look worse on a TLK flip.
Pedit - hence the (maybe) inserted a few times. Lo and behold Nero/RCE are now voting for TLK. Magic.
In post 5399, RCEnigma wrote:In post 5372, mcqueen wrote:If tlk flips town im voting CD tomorrowIn post 5373, mcqueen wrote:Remember that when he NKs me.
These are the kinda posts that are gonna get you lynched because it looks so....lamist I guess.
You're a claimed VT and very much lynchable...why would cheeky NK you?
In post 5405, Xtoxm wrote:In post 5404, mcqueen wrote:In post 5400, Xtoxm wrote:In post 5395, mcqueen wrote:In post 5392, Xtoxm wrote:i wont comment on who won or lost
could explain what changed the read from scum to town for you and at what point specifically you had this epiphany?
in all truth i got flustered when u sr me cause i knew my d1 vote was bad. u werent always some huge tr, still arent, but u never did much scummy. If u really want me to dig thru both our isos for more then go ahead and ask.
if im to reconsider you i need to be convinced you havent faked a read on me which is what it looked like
you look a bit more excited today at the caught scum situation that id expect from scum
care to explain how im excited about caught scum?
youre hyperactive and engaged when the current gamestate is terrible for scum
In post 5407, mcqueen wrote:In post 5405, Xtoxm wrote:In post 5404, mcqueen wrote:In post 5400, Xtoxm wrote:In post 5395, mcqueen wrote:In post 5392, Xtoxm wrote:i wont comment on who won or lost
could explain what changed the read from scum to town for you and at what point specifically you had this epiphany?
in all truth i got flustered when u sr me cause i knew my d1 vote was bad. u werent always some huge tr, still arent, but u never did much scummy. If u really want me to dig thru both our isos for more then go ahead and ask.
if im to reconsider you i need to be convinced you havent faked a read on me which is what it looked like
you look a bit more excited today at the caught scum situation that id expect from scum
care to explain how im excited about caught scum?
youre hyperactive and engaged when the current gamestate is terrible for scum
how does that make me scum though?
In post 5425, mcqueen wrote:In post 5423, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5421, mcqueen wrote:In post 5413, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5406, mcqueen wrote:if i were scum, i’d just shut up and let tlk get lynched peacefully. Ive made it very clear that i want the ss gone, Nero agreed with me. Take from that what u will, but why would i be voting my partner THEN try to derail it to CD? especially when CD is likely not a realistic lynch candidate today. U really think i could pull something like that off? Me?
You're not trying to derail it. You're trying to set me up for tomorrow.
Good because you need to die anyway. Your reads have been terrible.
Let’s just not talk about how you had your vote on Xtoxm on D1 too, then decided he’s town and switched to EFN near deadline.
I'm going to ignore you until you make sense.
Again, disengaging with genuine points. Scum
In post 5428, UnaBombaH wrote:This is still something that rubs me..In post 4259, UnaBombaH wrote:This is you trying to pull off a narrative.In post 4245, Xtoxm wrote:we get to sub 24h and a speedwagon pops up away from mcqueen
after i cant get more than 4 or 5 votes on him all day
thats definitely a thing that happens to town
i knew this would happen
creature might be town just based on how many people are jumping on him
hes the leading wagon for sure
It's not because we are sub 24h that a wagon has emerged.
It's because multiple players are feeling there are better lynch options for today, and I hope we manage to group enough people together to actually make it happen.
Instead of Creature, vote for Karm if you're worried Creature is town.
Or do you argue that BOTH of the wagons I promote are mislynches vs your McQueen push?
Assuming Xtoxmaximus is town here..it would mean that they seriously overestimated the wagon on Creature. Like seriously.
But it would lend some credibility to town!Creature as well, and maybe scum!McQueen in the sense that Ramcius-wagon got multiple scum jumping on it near deadline.
Interestingly, from my PoV, that could mean 2 scum in TLK/NevMax/Davesaz.
If I want to keep my head about scum!Creature, then Xtoxmax is scum as well, and I'm not sure I like that.
Based on D1 lynch-wagon alone it seems unlikely. Or at least quite ballsy.
In post 5430, UnaBombaH wrote:YOU WERE ON THE GREENER SIDE OF YELLOW. Townlean/null. Not scumread.In post 5424, mcqueen wrote:am i being discouraged from having private thoughts? Don’t act like we all post everything we think to the main thread. I have been as transparent as possible, and to be quite honest almost everything in my confesssional has been said here. A few stray thoughts didnt make it in. What are u onna scumread me for that?
Look at Daves color. Orange, or something like that. Red side of yellow. Scumlean more than townlean. Simple.
If anything, you jumping to these reactions makes me think you are getting redder post by post!
In post 5434, RCEnigma wrote:That's assuming scum is on the tail end of Ramcius wagon. The way the day went it was fairly obvious the push on Ramcius was going through early barring a scumslip.
I'm not clearing Bef so there's still that possibility. I honestly thought he would be pushed harder coming into the day and I'm honestly surprised people just ran with Bef was wrong.
In post 5481, RCEnigma wrote:
Lol the only difference between my town game and my survivor game is that I care if I put town in a better or worse position.
In post 5486, RCEnigma wrote:We always Lynch within Ram's wagon today and it should always be TLK with one of the Ram voters placing the hammer. Though truth be told I kind of like Nev today. So Elsa or SS.
In post 5503, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm not well versed in NAR things but would the person who received the sticky fruit be blocked from receiving any other "gifts"? I ask because I'm wondering if that's why TLK didn't get PP's gift or is there some other mechanic at play?
In post 5508, UnaBombaH wrote:Just remember that we wouldn't even know it's Creature unless he absolutely needed to replace into his main-acc.In post 5490, DrewVa wrote:I’ve actually rolled scum with Creature in Heroes and he didn’t bus, unless he was directed to do so. Scum!Creature, is probably hands down the most loyal scummate you could evet ask for, so no, I don’t see him hardbussing TLK. Scum!TLK flip, townspews Creature.
Now there's a narrative for that too.
Just saying.
In post 5509, UnaBombaH wrote:Dave has never been a hyperactive poster, but the difference in amounts of questions vs statements might be a thing I notice sub-consciously. Like said, it's a gutread until I find the energy to make a meta-dive or dave starts posting more.In post 5492, DrewVa wrote:How is scum!Dave different from town!Dave? I’ve only played once with Dave as town, in OK 2.
In post 5542, Xtoxm wrote:
this is a list of people im not townreading that also voted ram.
possibly, but boon could just have randomed them. its wifoming the mod.
In post 5545, RCEnigma wrote:
PP also fits into this somehow but if TLK flips scum PP is probably town for the gift thing that lead to talk claiming the fruit.
Town Only
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Named Townie, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful,
Mafia Only
Mafia Goon, Traitor
Any Alignment
Babysitter, Bunyip, Commuter, Cop, Detective, Doctor, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher
Third Party
Serial killer
Modifiers
Ascetic, Backup, Bulletproof, Enabler, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot, Ninja, Compulsive, Loyal, Disloyal, Loud, Informed, Activate, Strongman, Night Specific (Any form, Even/Odd/Novice included)
StickyFruit VendorCredit: Boonskiies
Spoiler:
At night, you will give your target a "Sticky Fruit". They will be informed that they have received a Sticky Fruit, but not who they received it from, nor what it does. They will only be informed that they may pass it along the following night. Any player given a Sticky Fruit will be immune to all actions, EXCEPT for killing actions, the night they receive the fruit.
In post 5568, mcqueen wrote:In post 5480, DrewVa wrote:
Scum is more likely to be early than late, so that looks good for N & M and Daveaz, I think. If McQueen is mechanically clear and I think he is, I think scum is most likely to be in SS, Elsa and TLK. Probably not all 5 on the same wagon.
However if Elsa is town, he should be willing to hammer TLK and his claim really doesn’t make sense as scum, unless he doesn’t back it up,
So, I think SS, if you’re basing it on Ram wagon.
You mean 4?
In post 5569, mcqueen wrote:In post 5502, DrewVa wrote:In post 5367, mcqueen wrote:
scumslip bruh. Rce not a day rep. Agree boon is not doing a great job of keeping track. But you want elsa to be the final vote on town tlk supersaint as scum!you secures a mislynch
If CD hammers ETD before Elsa hammers TLK, I’m retracting my townread on them.
Because there is 0 reason to ETD with Nero being the last vote on TLK. It’s patently ridiculous to think Nero is ever scum here.
No, I will admit I have only read the interaction once, so i need to again. But fmpov, it felt like cd was wagerly waiting for elsa to hammer, with the incorrect knowledge that the day would end (only 1/4 votes prior, rce is not a day rep). Cd is using that to hide behind town, come on if they tried to hammer when Nero was the final vote, they’re for sure dead. But it felt like they had an agenda to meet with the eod vote. And thats scummy. Because like i said, as long as elsa commits to voting a few minutes before deadline, very little reason to end the day early imo
In post 5570, Nero Cain wrote:the thing about TLK is why does a scum him, that redirected the fruit, claim that he got it? Just so he could argue "no scum would do that."? I bought the SS claim and I was ok with letting him get hammered by someone thats scummy but I don't think we can really enforce that with the current mechanic.
In post 5571, mcqueen wrote:In post 5511, DrewVa wrote:In post 5381, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5367, mcqueen wrote:
scumslip bruh. Rce not a day rep. Agree boon is not doing a great job of keeping track. But you want elsa to be the final vote on town tlk supersaint as scum!you secures a mislynch![]()
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How the fuck is that a scumslip? Dude get vigged already.
~ C
I think McQueen is a terrible choice for vigshot.
at least someone thinks so
In post 5573, Nero Cain wrote:
I'm sure they do unless its a fake pr that's trying to draw the NK but why rolefish?In post 5390, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Pedit - hence the (maybe) inserted a few times. Lo and behold Nero/RCE are now voting for TLK. Magic.
you're talking as if you know he's flipping town. I mean, if you've actually been reading my posts instead of calling me scum out of spite you'd notice that I've always been ok with TLK using his ability on a lurker/someone scummy. And now he's gotten fruit that wasn't sent to him. What do you think happened?
In post 5577, mcqueen wrote:idk man maybe we’re given some cool power and if we don’t know what it is then how can we use it??
In post 5585, Nero Cain wrote:In post 5490, DrewVa wrote:I’ve actually rolled scum with Creature in Heroes and he didn’t bus, unless he was directed to do so. Scum!Creature, is probably hands down the most loyal scummate you could evet ask for, so no, I don’t see him hardbussing TLK. Scum!TLK flip, townspews Creature.
Why can't he be directed to do so here?
Why not replace out?
In post 5668, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5659, DrewVa wrote:In post 5570, Nero Cain wrote:the thing about TLK is why does a scum him, that redirected the fruit, claim that he got it? Just so he could argue "no scum would do that."? I bought the SS claim and I was ok with letting him get hammered by someone thats scummy but I don't think we can really enforce that with the current mechanic.
Yes, it doesn’t really make sense for him to lie about that. A redirect onto TLK could also possibly be a frame? My slot in Labrynth was redirected onto a townie who was somewhat being scumread, so we can’t assume a redirect automatically=scum either.
I know I intensely dislike CD pushing you.
And their shading us for not mindmelding with their more dafuq reads.
Why would scum frame the claimed super saint?
In post 5673, Nev and Max wrote:And if we want elsa to be the "hammer" it doesnt matter because they will just vote before we vote to end the day. And if elsa moves that vote or didnt vote when she said she did we hang her.
In post 5262, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Intending to end the day in the next 48 hours. Maybe. Still need to run this play with Performer.
~ C
In post 5690, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 5688, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2464, DrewVa wrote:Oh wait, can confirm, there’s at least three rooms. Boon just made mention of other rooms - plural. That obviously means, at least 3.
This pinged me again on a dive for boonus round prizes. I need to remind myself to look at who was in each room as well, we could have glazed over this and not realized that the slip was that 1 scum was in 2 of A B or C that night, so scum would know that at least 2 rooms existed, but without a scum in the last room they wouldn't have known about more than 2.
On N1, I was in Group A with Alonzo and DrewVa.
Alonzo flipped Town, I am town... Drewva, I don't know.
In post 5692, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2413, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF
Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.
Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?
I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.
I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.
Group A: Drew (won), Lonzo, BEFish.
Prizes were vig, loyal, or macho.
Group B:
Group C: Gamma (won), Nero (won), Thanos
Prizes were immune to night actions, immune to tracker, neighborhood
This is what I have so far, trying to lock in group b
In post 5695, DrewVa wrote:In post 5692, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2413, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF
Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.
Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?
I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.
I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.
Group A: Drew (won), Lonzo, BEFish.
Prizes were vig, loyal, or macho.
Group B:
Group C: Gamma (won), Nero (won), Thanos
Prizes were immune to night actions, immune to tracker, neighborhood
This is what I have so far, trying to lock in group b
I thought Karmeleon/Creature won some combination prize with another player?
In post 5699, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5692, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2413, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF
Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.
Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?
I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.
I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.
Group A: Drew (won), Lonzo, BEFish.
Prizes were vig, loyal, or macho.
Group B: Dave (won), AC, Karm/Creature (won)
Prizes were Disloyal, Loud and _______
Group C: Gamma (won), Nero (won), Thanos
Prizes were immune to night actions, immune to tracker, neighborhood
This is what I have so far, trying to lock in group b
Found group b, mostly
In post 5701, Nev and Max wrote:So drew, dave, creature, gamme and nero all won.
Thanos pointed out when they outed the prizes how scum sided they were. I think that we need to take a look at these, especially if we can coordinate between those and the ones town got last night to help push us forward.
In post 5699, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5692, Nev and Max wrote:In post 2413, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 2408, mcqueen wrote:@BEF
Not sure what that means because I’ve never been part of a BooneyToonz game before.
Is there actually a BOONus round? How do you know that DrewVa was apart of it?
I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but just to be sure.
I was in a round with DrewVa and Alonzo. DrewVa went on and on about if we are all town in the real game we should compromise so that we all get a prize. We we all did compromise and Alonzo and I were town and DrewVa was scum so DrewVa won the round and said they were choosing 1-shot Vig to be used starting N2.
Granted, the winner of the round choose their prize in their confessional thread so maybe they picked one of the other two options which were Loyal or Macho.
Group A: Drew (won), Lonzo, BEFish.
Prizes were vig, loyal, or macho.
Group B: Dave (won), AC, Karm/Creature (won)
Prizes were Disloyal, Loud and _______
Group C: Gamma (won), Nero (won), Thanos
Prizes were immune to night actions, immune to tracker, neighborhood
This is what I have so far, trying to lock in group b
Found group b, mostly
Disloyal is a role modifier conceived as a complement to the earlier Loyal modifier. If a player is Disloyal, then any attempts by that player to use a night action on a player with the same alignment will fail (as though they had been roleblocked). As such, a disloyal player can only succeed with actions when targeting a player of a different alignment.
In post 5708, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 5703, DrewVa wrote:In post 5701, Nev and Max wrote:So drew, dave, creature, gamme and nero all won.
Thanos pointed out when they outed the prizes how scum sided they were. I think that we need to take a look at these, especially if we can coordinate between those and the ones town got last night to help push us forward.
I don’t think there’s any correlation between who won and alignment. I think it kind of odd that scum!TLK would never have got to play once. Because I think the choosing of the players is probably not random.
I was not told why I was selected for the BOONus round, were you? And it says priority will be given to players who have not completed in a BOONus round.
In post 5713, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 5712, DrewVa wrote:In post 5708, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 5703, DrewVa wrote:In post 5701, Nev and Max wrote:So drew, dave, creature, gamme and nero all won.
Thanos pointed out when they outed the prizes how scum sided they were. I think that we need to take a look at these, especially if we can coordinate between those and the ones town got last night to help push us forward.
I don’t think there’s any correlation between who won and alignment. I think it kind of odd that scum!TLK would never have got to play once. Because I think the choosing of the players is probably not random.
I was not told why I was selected for the BOONus round, were you? And it says priority will be given to players who have not completed in a BOONus round.
You think you were selected at random?
I have no idea wh I was selected. Should I?
In post 5717, BrightEyedFish wrote:Is it possible that someone has a role or modifier that allows them to select the BOONus players?
Or
maybe the selection could come from the Dead/spectator PT?
In post 5719, Xtoxm wrote:drewva whats your scumpool atm
In post 5643, Nev and Max wrote:
Who would be more motivated in you opinion to ask about this? I'm curious as well, but like someone else said "(paraphrasing) it doesn't affect me yet so I don't really care." Sure I'd like to know because no one likes to be on the outside of all the cool stuff, but if it's a town positive thing than it behooves town to be quiet. If it is a scum positive thing then they would already know what was going on and wouldn't say shit. If it isn't some kind of long con Gambit I lean town on Drew and scum on anyone pushing for the info to be outed. Scum would have much more cause to try and figure out what this is and why Drew is doing it.
In post 5730, Nev and Max wrote:In post 5724, DrewVa wrote:In post 5719, Xtoxm wrote:drewva whats your scumpool atm
TLK, SS, maybe Elsa?
SS voting 3rd on Ram, doesn’t mitigate that.
I have a better idea who isn’t likely to be scum here, than who is.
I’m currently townreading Nero, you, Creature, Gamma, RCE, Profil, McQueen.
TLK scum means Penguin, town.
@Penguin, what did you try to give to TLK?
I feel like you are functionally ignoring our slot. Even on your big catch up there was almost nothing from us and we've posted a lot in the last day or so. What gives?
In post 5638, UnaBombaH wrote:Creature still didn't confirm hearing a "Quack" last night.
VOTE: Creature
In post 5535, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: cheeky dancer
this is just letting you know the vote is officially placed
In post 5673, Nev and Max wrote:And if we want elsa to be the "hammer" it doesnt matter because they will just vote before we vote to end the day. And if elsa moves that vote or didnt vote when she said she did we hang her.
In post 5742, Nev and Max wrote:And after you said we were less suspicious I asked you to dance so we could figure things out. I went on to post a a lot over the last day or so and you seem to breeze past most of what I posted on your catch up. I don't know how my posting was taken by you because you don't address most of it. Even when I'm currently posting with you it's hard to get your attention it seems
In post 5741, profii wrote:I’d suggest if we still want to lynch him, I hammer to prove this is all legit as I’ve only got aesetic left to give anyone and that’s a poopy one anyway so it’s chill
In post 5759, profii wrote:we can give it a go but...In post 5754, The Last Knight wrote:Just had a thought about the fruit... Don't you want it back, @Profii?the point isn't about a scum read on me - the point is that the night action has been interfered with, my death proves that and gives some people involved in this some credibility - I'm assuming no one wants to be aesetic so I can just die i think....In post 5757, Xtoxm wrote:i dont anyones scumreading you profii the deathwish is unnecessary
as i said - it's a discussion point, from where i sit, it seems logical but if people think removing someone like Elsa is a better move then that's ok - maybe i can get vigged later.
In post 5762, DrewVa wrote:In post 5759, profii wrote:we can give it a go but...In post 5754, The Last Knight wrote:Just had a thought about the fruit... Don't you want it back, @Profii?the point isn't about a scum read on me - the point is that the night action has been interfered with, my death proves that and gives some people involved in this some credibility - I'm assuming no one wants to be aesetic so I can just die i think....In post 5757, Xtoxm wrote:i dont anyones scumreading you profii the deathwish is unnecessary
as i said - it's a discussion point, from where i sit, it seems logical but if people think removing someone like Elsa is a better move then that's ok - maybe i can get vigged later.
I think you’re pretty obviously town, so if not Elsa, maybe SS? But I actually think he really may be a traitor, who outted it to let the scumteam know, then later switched it to miller.
Like how does an experienced player like Elsa, ever make that mistake?
In post 2365, Elsa Jay wrote:@Mafia: I may or may not also have the possibility of being an informed Traitor, so please don't shoot me and waste your shot.
In post 3244, Elsa Jay wrote:I'll personally hammer TLK if nessecity necessary so town doesn't fear any backlash from his claim either. Otherwise, I feel like the majority discussion is between DrewVa and Theta. I'm wanting Theta to actually play before I make judgement, but otherwise, I'd kill them.
In post 3257, Elsa Jay wrote:Why I dont mind hammering him is because I no longer want to fake claim, so I might as well die now if I'm wrong on TLK being scum and he's actually Town. Like people say, I'm a liability sometimes. We kill me, the SS did it's job. Win-win.
In post 3271, Elsa Jay wrote:You wont die if your wrong. I do.
I'll do you one better. I'm actually a Miller. I'm saccing my life for the cause here. Vig me if I dont keep my wors and hammer TLK.
In post 3277, Elsa Jay wrote:In post 3274, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Traitor and Miller aren't the same thing. Optimal play for a miller is to claim in your first post...at least before the first night phase...seriously wtf?
~ C
Traitor was me also hinting at being a Miller, girl.In post 631, Elsa Jay wrote:I literally just called you out for trying to kill the town power roles with the way you were going. Would You rather I push you?
Focusing on me just hurts you more. You dont have to townread me yet, and even if you personally check me, you won't believe me. I'm just a natural of being suspicious.
Why are you so focused on me anyway instead of some others? Is it... Because I've secretly been putting in effort all this time and you subconsciously recognized it?
As was that.
In post 3273, Elsa Jay wrote:No, I claimed traitor awhile ago Cheeky. I bolded it.
Help me out here in dying and taking out TLK as a possibility of being a Scum. In this setup trusting a SS is horrible. Get rid of me AND him.
In post 5768, Elsa Jay wrote:It was in him for awhile then it moved to more promising areas.
In post 5767, Nero Cain wrote:I'm down with Elsa if we just wanted to lynch that instead of her hammering TLK.
In post 5806, The Last Knight wrote:In post 5784, Nero Cain wrote:y is BEF scummy?
Kokichi Oma
Mcqueen
UnaBombah
Creature
thoughts on those slots knight?
-Lurker
-Desperately trying to prove how town he is and probably is.
-Was reading scum as theta, town as una until recent posts, but still a town lean.
-I didn't mind Karmeleon and I liked the Creature entrance. I can understand the appeal of having no one meta read you. Town.
In post 5902, RCEnigma wrote:Gonna need you two to organize together
In post 5896, mcqueen wrote:
can you do that please? i’m townreading rce and would prefer he not be in a potential lynchpool, despite his unlikelihood of actually getting hung.
In post 5902, RCEnigma wrote:In post 5724, DrewVa wrote:In post 5719, Xtoxm wrote:drewva whats your scumpool atm
TLK, SS, maybe Elsa?
SS voting 3rd on Ram, doesn’t mitigate that.
I have a better idea who isn’t likely to be scum here, than who is.
I’m currently townreading Nero, you, Creature, Gamma, RCE, Profil, McQueen.
TLK scum means Penguin, town.
@Penguin, what did you try to give to TLK?
Gonna need you two to organize together
In post 5944, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I can defer on RCE/Nero but I'll find at least Nero suspect until late game. We can move off TLK if you're feeling that. Creature lynch?
~ C
In post 5948, DrewVa wrote:There simply are certain slots that I excel at reading, Nero, Creature are amongst them and people would be wise to listen to me on that.
In post 5954, Cheeky Dancer wrote:The thing is, I would think town should want to help as much as possible and even moreso as the game progresses.
Problem is, sometimes scum does this too. But I'm probably digressing.
~ P
In post 5956, Cheeky Dancer wrote:In post 5955, DrewVa wrote:In post 5954, Cheeky Dancer wrote:The thing is, I would think town should want to help as much as possible and even moreso as the game progresses.
Problem is, sometimes scum does this too. But I'm probably digressing.
~ P
Creature is a player, who is terrible a faking conviction as scum. He almost always sounds awkward and frozen, whenever he attempts this, so Creature with conviction, is almost always town!Creatre, irrespective of reads. He hard townread scum!Thor in YGM and he wrongly scumread Brian/Sakura slot.
I dont follow .
Anyway , why do you tr GE.
~ P
In post 5962, Something_Smart wrote:
Gonna have to reread but probably my strongest scumread is Thanos. Not even that strong (not more than null-scum) but I remember not liking several of their posts and I don't remember ANYTHING recent from them so it hasn't gotten better. Auro was very vocal and easy to read in Excalibur and I haven't really seen that here. Plus I think there was something about their D1 vote, might have been misremembering though.
Beyond them... maybe Xtoxm? I still hate how he tried to discredit my loyal plan.
Maybe Elsa? I could easily see him being a traitor, although I doubt he's groupscum.
Maybe Kokichi or Gamma? Dunno, I'd have to check.
I'm still feeling good about most of my townreads though, so I'm not super focused on hunting scum. By and large I am agreeing with most of the PoE pools people are putting out.
In post 22, the worst wrote:
In post 4563, the worst wrote:
In post 5971, Creature wrote:In post 5951, DrewVa wrote:In post 5948, DrewVa wrote:There simply are certain slots that I excel at reading, Nero, Creature are amongst them and people would be wise to listen to me on that.
In. b4 Creature disputes this with YGM. It took me awhile to discern all of the obvious towntells but I did get there eventually.
Who is YGM?
In post 5984, RCEnigma wrote:In post 5974, Xtoxm wrote:yeah S_S is scum
this is one of the most egregious cases of lack of read evolution ive ever seen
and hes seen my scumgame in worst idea, he really has no right calling me scum here
if we're lynching outside of TLK i can purge this
On top of that he comes off with the typical unengaged scumread list with multiple lynchable slots whom have already been pushed and then the one townread slot that they know won't gain traction but might get them towncred for pursuing.
I kind of want to give Creature a townread if S_S flips scum. I think it was Nancy said Creature never buses but NK's normal saw a fair bit of Day 1 scum theater and I wouldn't totally clear him off of it. It would look better though.
In post 5985, The Last Knight wrote:Thanos is absent right now but I did read the Thanos and DrewVa interaction late D1 to be SvT, in no particular order. DrewVa is more of a town read for me now, especially with Thanos lurking today. I'd love to get their input on this but it isn't the worst counterwagon I've heard today.
In post 5987, The Last Knight wrote:And SS is scum until they prove otherwise at this point for me. They're coasting too comfortably for me to be okay with it. I do appreciate the dedication to the game when it comes to replacing out, but that just makes me feel like they want to skate by without having to contribute.
I'm mainly just asking for more from them. Then I'll reaS_Sess (reassess).