Mini 2052: Downtown Train Mafia - Game Over!

[brassherald]

Call me Selphie because

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Sometimes you're a Selphie, and sometimes you're just an Irvine trying too hard to be cool.

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

I'm Zell in this story.

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Vote: brassherald

I never played that Final Fantasy game.

It was my first, I have a soft spot for bad games in good series.

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To wrap my head around numbers, there are 10 of us, that's six to lynch, right? It's been a while and I am bad at math.

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I might be rusty but I never liked the vote unvote thing for town.

VOTE: TonyMontana

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@mod I would like clarification on the crewman rule. If all the crewmen die, does that mean everyone loses?

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Are you expecting a train to go to the end of the line in a big crash and explosion brass?

Ideally, I would like that not to happen, but I would like to make sure I understand the rules now before I forget that I don't understand the rules.

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@mod I would like clarification on the crewman rule. If all the crewmen die, does that mean everyone loses?

my impression was that scum win if all of the crewmen die

making this setup something like white flag masons or this one setup fakegod made once

the implications of which (to me, at least) go without saying

See? This is why I asked, I had the opposite impression and I need to know which is correct!

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I don't understand the push on Allomancer.

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Only 2 more votes and then we can wagon Bambi for bussing.

This is a train, Moron. Not a bus.

VOTE: Bambi

L-2 by page 2, surely the worst offense we can trump up by page 3.

Boo to the mod, for forcing me to change my board theme due to pink text.
Boo to the site for not making mafSepia default.

First point: your power means nothing here. I know the truth.

Second point: Maf!Sepia is still good as long as you change the brightness on your screen to read lighter colors.

Welp didn't deny it, we can boot Bambi off the train next. Preferably in motion. Would like Allomancer lynched by page 5.

WHY?

[brassherald]

Why is Bambi scummy or why do I want to kill Allomancer?

Let's go with both. Mostly Allomancer.

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At most, you have a policy lynch case building up for a lady telling jokes. At worst, you are trying to get me hung fast and generally just being a scum too eager for a mislynch.

It's hanged.

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Starting a new wagon when someone was placed at L-2 seems a little bit premature IMO, so here's a really early FoS at TonyMontana.

Vote him. He's the scummiest of the game so far.

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

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VOTE: brass

because obvscum trying to pretend maths is hard.

UNVOTE: brass

because ff8 is my second favorite ff

Why can't you even place a vote?

Because he's scum trying to pretend like he's not trying to wagon. I did that in my first game as scum. Classic scum tell.

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TGP, amor has 5 posts and very little content. What's scummy in there outside of 55?

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Vote Tony

Filp Flopity.

Yes!

Runaway train never coming back.... Something something about maybe a track!

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Choo Choo! I don't know why I keep thinking this is my geriatric game and my geriatric game is my train game.

I feel like this game is a bit stuck in the station, if you know what I mean. (It's a train pun because trains live in stations)

@RCEnigma I am having trouble following what you are saying about Robert and Darth right now, could you give your thoughts on both slots to make it easy for an idiot (me)?

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VOTE: Robert2424

Don't post if you're not going to contribute to the game. Most of your posts are unproductive.

Who's posts are productive right now?

I don't know we have had enough contributing to the game to really say that being unproductive is really throwing us off the rails. (Like that one? It's train puns all around today!)

Also, is this just a policy lynch vote?

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Remember when NSG was here and making good observations?

I wish she came back, is what I'm saying.

Also, TonyMontana could do more obvscum stuff and be a pal like that.

Amor could engineer (Eh?) a return as well, but did TGP ever expand on that read, I don't remember and I'm not going to check right now.

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I guess not every discussion can make us go full steam ahead. (This might be boats, I'm all out of train puns right now, if so)

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Amor could engineer (Eh?) a return as well, but did TGP ever expand on that read, I don't remember and I'm not going to check right now.

I'm still present and, uh, on track? This is my first mafia game in a long time, so I'm having a bit of trouble finding things to grab onto. (Although it seems like quite a few people are having problems this game.)

Right now I'm thinking a Bambi/Tony scumteam seems the most likely. It would explain why Bambi ignored the quasi-serious reason for Tony's vote but reacted very strongly to mine, and neither have made any pro-town posts.

I know why I have a Tony scum read right now, but can you expand on yours?

Also, good punning.

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VOTE: Robert2424

Don't post if you're not going to contribute to the game. Most of your posts are unproductive.

Who's posts are productive right now?

I don't know we have had enough contributing to the game to really say that being unproductive is really throwing us off the rails. (Like that one? It's train puns all around today!)

Also, is this just a policy lynch vote?

Not policy lynch, pressure. You really think we're lynching this early?

I don't, but I want to gather information from you. Votes are probably the most significant portion of any post, and I like to get down to the reasoning.

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Anyone know vote count on Bambi. I like these arguments but definitely don't want to count.

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Fuck it, intent to hammer.

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Either turn me around with some great posts or claim.

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I believe a consensus is what occurs if I were to vote you. Are you confused about what a consensus is?

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As in: fucking over town by not letting them process what happened with a quickhammer and basically giving mafia a free night.

Let everyone actually get online before you seal towns fate.

Why don't you go the "making some really good posts" route?

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Why don't you be the better man and don't let emotion cloud your judgement by letting town get their bearings?

Like I said: Hammer = Scumclaim from you.

Is this just a really weird chainsaw defense? I'm legitimately just asking you to play the damn game.

Why did you sign up if you aren't going to play?

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Why don't you be the better man and don't let emotion cloud your judgement by letting town get their bearings?

Like I said: Hammer = Scumclaim from you.

Is this just a really weird chainsaw defense? I'm legitimately just asking you to play the damn game.

Why did you sign up if you aren't going to play?

It's me helping town by not claiming and telling you to not hammer unless you are scum.

Literally look how Darth, Engima, and

especially

TGP jumped on me in 3 back to back votes. Why dont you actually question them if you want the truth?

I am literally NOT asking you to claim, I am asking you to PLAY THE GAME!

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Give me some analysis, not just what slots I should be questioning, I can handle my own play, and I have asked at least two out of the three some questions to give me better ideas, I have nothing from you.

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By intent, that means you want a claim. Nobody ever says intent otherwise. I'm also playing. Look. I literally got both scum to jump on my wagon.

I said intent and gave you an alternate route, which, if you actually exercise the alternate route, I would withdraw my intent. You have inexplicably decided against making analysis posts. I don't get it.

I'm saying now, if you don't want to claim, that's your call I'm asking for some reason to actually believe you are town because of right now, you have given me jack shit.

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I have to go to a meeting, but I am engaging you, I am giving you a chance and begging you to take that chance. But, when it comes down to it, you can throw a drowning man a lifesaver but you can't force him to grab it, I guess.

Please grab the lifesaver, if you are town.

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North, Allomancer, and Robert are ICs now. Tony and Amor's vote are also probably what the scum used as a leapboard, so I clear them.

There, I cleared 5 of the townies for you. Plus me, that equals 6. With you that's 7 if you dont hammer.

But, I am not convinced you are town, this all assumes we know you are town, which I do not.

Give real analysis.

I'm out for now.

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brassherald you have no idea how unbelievably anti-town that intent was from you in a game that is essentially white flag masons.

What makes you think it's white flag masons?

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well, i guess "white flag masons" is the wrong term, but that's just the way that i know how to say "a setup in which there are masons and town loses when all of the masons are dead"

which as far as i was aware, was this setup, with the crewmen being the masons.

Okay, thanks for clarification, and I still don't see how it was anti-town, but I do want to drop this line of discussion for reasons.

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VOTE: Bambi Jay

L-1. Bambi please try to read the game and examine.

If this slot is scum, great. If it's not, it's a policy lynch that really needs to happen. Bad posts, bad reactions, terrible for town if town. This slot needs to be lynched.

By the way, I was busy not pointing this out to try to get Bambi to engage in the game, but I've seen TGP make this sort of post before. It's very much reminiscent of a post where he made big bold letters on an L-1 in a newbie game a while back.

Guess what faction he was with there?

VOTE: thegoldenparadox

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It's the absurd big font that you do.

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I'd like to hear from NSG on Amor and Allomancer on Robert some more.

If you'd please expand on these vanity wagons, that would be great.

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Brass, if you thought that TGP's vote to put Bambi at L-1 was scummy, did you actually not intend to hammer? Or do you think this was bussing?

I was not actually intending to hammer at the time, I was hoping it would motivate Bambi to engage more.

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It more motivated me to growl and refuse you while waiting for someone I found more reasonable to join, which is why I stalled and am currently shutting up to let the proper conclusion be reached.

You motivated me more to spite you, honestly.

Good on you, I guess?

Like, I don't really care if you spite me for trying to get you to participate in the game you signed up to play. I'm not losing sleep over this.

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That was more of a dig at your horrible play of claiming intent so damn early. Guess you really can't understand a word coming out of my mouth anyway, huh?

I'd like to unsubscribe from the service of your evaluating the quality of my play, please.

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Too bad, you'll get more when I'm off work.

Sorry, this user has already unsubscribed.

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Any thoughts from Munchmellow?

I feel like people replace in just to immediately lurk out, now.

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Looked at TGP's iso and I don't see anything wrong with it

Let's try another approach, what do you see in it that is Towny?

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Looked at TGP's iso and I don't see anything wrong with it

Let's try another approach, what do you see in it that is Towny?

I still want this.

[brassherald]

If anyone asks me questions, I'll answer them. No one is asking me questions, so I have nothing to answer.

I like asking questions, I'm fine with answering, I don't want to clog up the thread with my thoughts where maybe no one is interested in my specific thoughts.

And read lists suck ass.

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Also, if people legitimately think I would bother asking questions to people to hide as scum, read my scum games and look how ridiculously bad I actually am. I've shared opinions on shit in this game, probably more than I usually do on a day 1. Because, again, read lists are sucky and I hate them plus, I don't trust any of you mofos... Except NSG, she's town.

By extension Bambi can be town as well.

Was it this game where I did my read list joke?

I don't remember
{Me}
{Everyone else, I'm last town, aren't I?}

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It seems worth noting that someone has come into the same slot as Tony and then also kind of disappeared.

Yep.

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RC, who do you believe is Allo's partner if he's scum?

Also, I don't recall because I was gone so long, how TGP plays. I'm going to look into his meta tomorrow-ish, so long as the snowstorm we are supposed to get here doesn't randomly knock out my internet.

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What, we can't move on someone who's VLA now? I know what to do in all my scum games with Allo

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I mean we theoretically can, but right now, as I've said before, I don't find TGP particularly scummy and while he's not posting because he is v/la he'll stay that way.

Do you mean that I'll continue to not post after my VLA is over? Why would I do that? And also, even though I'm not posting a lot, I'm still more active than some. I haven't disappeared from the game completely.

No, I meant that I currently don't find you scummy. Currently, you're not posting often because of you're v/la, so I'm obviously not going to start scumreading you until after your v/la when you pick up the posting.

Legitimately, this is the first time I understood what you meant. I don't know about anyone else but I was super confused, thus my sarcastic comment earlier and no follow up

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VOTE: Allomancer decided I don't like his interactions with the TGP wagon

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Allot fails to realize what I want. I want a activity. I want people to post. Is it working? I would guess so compared to earlier.

After some a response of "No, not really"

Especially since you seem to have not engaged on your own. You want more activity, try to start a dialog.

Also, do I really have the most posts in the game?

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@mod your timer is wrong.

I thought we had nearly 3 days since I was reading the timer

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@mod your timer is wrong.

I thought we had nearly 3 days since I was reading the timer

And, I just realized it is not a timer.

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@Amor, then what are your thoughts on everyone else, including me.

As I've stated before, besides Bambi, I think Munch and Brass are the most suspicious. Everyone else seems like town overthinking things. I would question why you're so focused on activity when the deadline is tomorrow.

As for the case on Allo, I'm not sure I buy it. It seems like scum would have tried to jump on at least one of those wagons.

Does it bother you at all that, as you pointed out, the deadline is tomorrow and a mislynch is statistically better than a no lynch day 1 yet you remain on a vanity wagon?

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(expired on 2019-01-23 21:58:19)

here you go brass -d

Thanks. I didn't want to admit it, but I don't know what time 6 pm PST is in my time.

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Well, less didn't want to admit, more, I would have made a timer if I knew.

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VOTE: TGP

I like this wagon better, it doesn't have Munchmellow on it.

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Plurality lynch is in effect, according to first post, by the way.

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VOTE: Allomancer

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How about we also just don't claim right now at all? There's clearly either a big or an SK, if there's an SK, there's probably a town PR out there to help the town. I think the more we make it obvious who's not a PR the easier this game becomes for scum.

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why dose it say its day 1 still?

Why are we focusing on that rather than what's happening in the game.

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VOTE: Allomancer

Anyone feel this is a bad lynch today?

~Auro

Not me.

@mod I just realized that this will be part of Day 2, I'll be V/LA on February 4-9

Got it. ~LA

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Fuck it, since it looks like we won't be pushing up scum to claim it and for me to sort out, I'll just do it now.

Who would shoot Munchmellow? One brassherald, army man who done fucked up, since Amor will probably vote me and so will Robert, I guess, I see this train going fast.

Choo Choo mofos, I shot a man dead, I wish I had gone with the Allo shot I almost did instead.

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I only get one shot, so now I'm a VT, I guess.

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By the way, sorry Munch, but, in my defense, I am an idiot.

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I'm saying Amor is going to vote me, and I figured from yesterday you would, too.

I'm just saying I'm the vig. I shot munch, I am claiming it.

Now scum can either CC me and out themselves for tomorrow, or risk that I'm lying about only being one shot and just trying to get to Night 2 to shoot one of them.

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I feel like the claim fucks with scum's minds enough that it's optimal play considering how bad I have been at scum hunting since my return to the site.

Because I could be fucking with them and have another shot for one of them.

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When has a wincon ever outted a Serial Killer in a game?

Yo, I wish I was SK here. I have not so secretly been looking to be SK for like a year.

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Ok. While I can believe he's the vig, why shoot N1. Unless you were expecting to be shot N1 or something?

I always expect to be shot N1.

It happened once.

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VOTE: chateau lobby

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Opportunistic, I think

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Opportunistic, I think

Is this referring to Chateau or Allo?

Chateau

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I'm voting you, what do you think?