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Post Post #1100  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:12 am

In post 1097, Taly wrote:I can't tell if the constant miscommunication on my posts is because I just suck at clarifying things for people, or people are actively not trying to understand my POV.


this is probably the biggest reason why ive had issue sorting mephisto and stw for different reasons
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Post Post #1101  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:17 am

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Post Post #1102  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:20 am

*aggressively throws feathers at Ari, Nancy, TW, and Sho*
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Post Post #1103  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:23 am

apologize for my constant posting the past 3 pages.

i really dont want to go back to the meta of "vapid short posts all the time", got me nowhere

In post 1098, Taly wrote:
In post 1072, u r a person 2 wrote:@taly
a bunch of people were voting nico and I figured maybe it could lead to a sort. It was not a productive use of time

miserably sick this past day. hoping it will get better from here. will play tomorrow


thoughts on Pint and primarily their wagon/vote on you?


i want the discussion to STAY ON TOPIC

@STW/Mephisto

If you see a ?), I want that answered, ty.
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Post Post #1104  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:26 am

In post 1087, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Why? And Bono and Alchemist are really bad wagons.


who is Bono[/n]?

i want [b]mew
to reply to alchemist before i make a further assessment there
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Post Post #1105  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:26 am

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Post Post #1106  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 am

In post 1095, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm sorry all I just havent been the mafia mood lately. I hope that changes tonight. I'll look into what I missed. Anything anyone wants me to look into?


Help us find teh scums.

In post 1100, Taly wrote:
In post 1097, Taly wrote:I can't tell if the constant miscommunication on my posts is because I just suck at clarifying things for people, or people are actively not trying to understand my POV.


this is probably the biggest reason why ive had issue sorting mephisto and stw for different reasons


I can obviously only speak for myself but yeah, I honestly do find some of your posts, really confusing.
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Post Post #1107  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 am

In post 1102, Taly wrote:*aggressively throws feathers at Ari, Nancy, TW, and Sho*


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1108  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:28 am

ask questions please and ill answer as concisely as possible.

also relevant questions that arent about things that are 500+ posts old, preferably, ty.

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Post Post #1109  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:29 am

In post 1104, Taly wrote:
In post 1087, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Why? And Bono and Alchemist are really bad wagons.


who is Bono[/n]?

i want [b]mew
to reply to alchemist before i make a further assessment there


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Post Post #1110  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 am

yeah not impressed with each vote on U2 when looking at it individually, but i do think town is there. (@my current vote because i dont know about pint)
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Post Post #1111  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:43 am

In post 965, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 63, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Alchemist21

Considering that this vote hasn't left, was it serious?

Yes. You can take that vote as serious in that I haven't seen any other wagon was compelling enough for me to shift my vote. I don't buy how he's approaching the game state as genuine.

In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 765, Mewtaph wrote:Hey Gamma, can I ask you a question? Do you think that I should be town reading you this game?

What answer were you expecting here?

It was an open ended question, so I wasn't expecting any answer in particular.

In post 936, Taly wrote:
In post 772, Mewtaph wrote:I like u r a person 2 for town quite a bit actually, and I would be willing to do my first active sort to them, Taly or Varsoon.

I think NicoRobin is a decent point to poke with a stick before deadline rears too close, but is a bad wagon to get going near deadline in case they are really just apathetic!town.

I don't know why pinturrichio keeps pushing their content back repeatedly but it's not a great look.

I didn't like the initial voting on UP2 when I first skimmed through it, the reasons for a scumread there lacked substance (Prompting Michael Scott to explain why he thought UP2's posts were manufactured, that's the vote that most got my attention when it happened.)

I agree a bit on Nico. A lurker lynch won't get anywhere, and I don't trust the fact that everyone is like "where's the scum at"?

:/ I get my vote on Kokichi contradicts the above statement, but I'm working to change this.

Pint pushing content back... not a great look? Or scum-indicative?

I thought ignoring u r a person 2's self-referential call for a wagon on himself by means of a vote over interaction was scummy. There is a part of me that thinks that scum would be looking for something to do outside of STW's wagon after it dissolved.

Mmm, yes. This is how I feel too.

I'm not taking Pint having to push his content back as scum indicative but I'm saying it would've been bad if posts along those lines continued, which I guess is pointless now.


Hmmmm . . . never left moves his vote off of Alchemist who reads pretty damned townie to me but shades Pint. If Pint ever flips red here, this could be possible distancing.
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Post Post #1112  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 am

In post 1003, Krazy wrote:
Votecount 1.10
NicoRobin(3) ~ (57), (153), (81)
u r a person 2(2) ~ (43), (42)
Shoshin the worst(2) ~ (6), (143)
Alchemist21(2) ~ (5), (61)
pinturicchio(1) ~ (75)
Mewtaph(1) ~ (52)
Kokichi Oma(1) ~ (70)


Not Voting (2): (184), Kokichi Oma(8)

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

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MOD REMINDERSKokichi Oma needs a prod. The last post was at: 1/9/2019 10:23:00 AM which was 2 days 4 hours 16 minutes 51 seconds ago.

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Post Post #1113  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:51 am

In post 889, pinturicchio wrote:URAP2 has townied it up a lot since my first pushing attempt, and I'm not as convinced as I was before; however, I still see some inconsistencies and I can't let go the things I pointed out before about him.

@taly i thought pintu had unvoted me, but i guess not.

remembering that what he pointed out was that i jumped off an early wagon on a town read of his, and noting the "has townied it up a lot" word choice, it's odd

it could be pintu scum, but scum!pintu seemed more in tune with the player base last game i played. i dont understand the strat he has here, and i think scum!pintu has a plan
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Post Post #1114  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:56 am

Also, didn’t care for the weird Gamma question and justification for it. Pint could also be scum but eh.

So, rn, those two read the least towniest. Thinking Stw is wrong about Taly and RSC (PF), so maybe one of the lurkers but lurking is more town indicative for Kokichi than Nico but currently null on both and I agree with Taly about either being low info flips.
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Post Post #1115  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:59 am

In post 1113, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 889, pinturicchio wrote:URAP2 has townied it up a lot since my first pushing attempt, and I'm not as convinced as I was before; however, I still see some inconsistencies and I can't let go the things I pointed out before about him.

@taly i thought pintu had unvoted me, but i guess not.

remembering that what he pointed out was that i jumped off an early wagon on a town read of his, and noting the "has townied it up a lot" word choice, it's odd

it could be pintu scum, but scum!pintu seemed more in tune with the player base last game i played. i dont understand the strat he has here, and i think scum!pintu has a plan


All votes on you are bad, you seem really genuine. Could be?

@Eraserhead, go find a better wagon.
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Post Post #1116  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:44 am

Town, not listing the order of strength OR confidence here
Almost Chara
Mephisto
STW
Varsoon
T&L
URAP2
Alchemist

Sorting
Mew
Pint
Proflavor
Michael Scott
Nicorobin
Kokichi


Not behind a Nico/Koki lynch unless there's either a better meta argument, or until they post more so I can evaluate them enough to have a lynch decision on.
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Post Post #1117  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:46 am

are noteworthy posts about Mew/Pint
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Post Post #1118  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:03 pm

In post 1116, Taly wrote:Town, not listing the order of strength OR confidence here
Almost Chara
Mephisto
STW
Varsoon
T&L
URAP2
Alchemist

Sorting
Mew
Pint
Proflavor
Michael Scott
Nicorobin
Kokichi


Not behind a Nico/Koki lynch unless there's either a better meta argument, or until they post more so I can evaluate them enough to have a lynch decision on.


+1

Totally mindmelding with your town list. I think scum is most likely in Mew/Pint/Nico/Kokichi - in that order. Eraserhead and Auroapocalypse are currently townleans but I suppose it’s possible Auro is pocketing me but unlikely. Unless one or more of my reads is wrong but based on associatives and bad votes, probably not. If Eraserhead doesn’t move their bad Bono vote, I’ll have to revisit that slot.

Anyway, Kokichi can be resolved tomorrow due to IC claim, plus lurking is more town indicative for him. If both lurkers are town, then I obviously need to reacess my reads.

Nico could really be upset about replace in being ignored or it could be more than that. I seriously question that Krazy would make that kind of mistake though but I suppose it’s possible.
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Post Post #1119  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:15 pm

i can get behind mew

VOTE: mewtaph
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Post Post #1120  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:01 pm

:roll:

Join the hivemind, folks.

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Post Post #1121  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:03 pm

Okay, so here's an expansion of the thought I briefed at the beginning of my - Alchemist has shown themselves to be a competent player in that he appeared active during and after RVS and easily adjusted into a neutral mediator role between Shoshin the worst and Varsoon. He takes multiple opportunities early on to appear present in the thread that seems crafted to achieve nothing but a sense of activity and general noise, but unlike other offenders of this act, shows that they have no particular interest in trying to wrangle active thread control, staying separated from those willing to fight each other over it. Town has no reason to engage with this type of engagement which allows presence but allows for separation from the events taking place for 20 posts, especially when they decide to make , which is a fairly analytical post to sort somebody as town using logic, right?

Except after Alchemist's ISO #0 to #20, he starts to move away from the early dispute and the problem is that his first post () in doing so feels artificial because when directly questioned, he points to the post as a reason to follow him as being town. was disconnected from his original line of thought in that I question if he actually thought of it in the first place. In sum, they've taken multiple stances but have retracted those stances to the point where he's been able to keep his options wide open outside of Varsoon/STW/Mephisto which are easy lynches to strike out as scum, while offering the overall illusion of coinciding ideas of being engaged and sorting the game state out, while failing to achieve either in any way that I believe in.

I could be wrong, but I'm comfortable with the rationale for my vote.

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Post Post #1122  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:20 pm

Lmao. So you’re trying to say I’m competent enough to engage the thread and have everyone thinking I’m Town without taking over the thread, but you think I can’t even come up with my own thoughts? My 297 is in no way disconnected from what I said about Mephistophanes so that’s just straight bullshit. And then I must be scum because my reads changed? Because I didn’t double down on shit when it became clear I was wrong?

Yeah, no. You’re tripping over yourself to try and justify your terrible posts. You can eat rope today.
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Post Post #1123  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:33 pm

Mewtaph what about that makes you think Alchemist is aligned with the mafia?
1121 is incredibly unfocused
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Post Post #1124  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:39 pm

mew do u have any reads aside from alch and thoughts on the current wagons aside from your sole vote? want to know ty
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