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Post Post #3884  (isolation #200)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:40 am

In post 3861, DrewVa wrote:No, I am analyzing Profil’s case on you and it’s obvious, he seems to think this.


Yeah well Profiis case boils down to "this guy wants to end the day early and Lynch my scumread, that's scummy."

So there's that.

Profii are you suggesting multiple scum in the circle of ram/TLK/McQueen/BEF?

If your assertion is that Scum!Bef is making a play to lynch McQueen it would probably be town!McQueen. In that case you would have to think either TLK is fake claiming with bef and Bef is gunning for Ram whom is probably town if it's Before/TLK or Bef/Ram is scum theater and after a day 1 Lynch on scum Ram is a designated bus. Because Bef has pretty much set Ram up to die. That would also mean TLK's SS claim is legit and Scum!Ram is suiciding anyway.

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Post Post #3885  (isolation #201)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:51 am

In post 3870, UnaBombaH wrote:So, now that I've seen the two flips thusfar, I'd like to make some bold accusations.
All town in: Alonzo [12/26, 18:53], DrewVa [12/27, 17:01], Xtoxm [12/28, 16:53], Cheeky Dancer [12/28, 17:48]
Mainly because the votes have all been added so close to the deadline.
MAX ONE SCUM IN HERE IMO, AND THEY WILL BE HARD TO CATCH IF SO.


Addition to this, placement on the wagons isn't as important as timing. If that makes sense. Town won't know if they are hammering a lynch but scum potentially have that knowledge. It would only be useful in a bussing situation though, bunching votes together is potentially dangerous for scum.

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Post Post #3927  (isolation #202)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:55 pm

Hmm, Una townslip. How bout those Day 1 Theta votes?

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Post Post #3928  (isolation #203)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:56 pm

Fine with a karmeleon lynch, still want Elsa out tomorrow.

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Post Post #3929  (isolation #204)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:07 pm

In post 3895, Ramcius wrote:Mc is my top pick for lynch now, yo ucan say thx to RCE and Profil. I like how Profil claims to vote Mc and ends up with me/BEF/TLK as a scum team, RCE feels like defending Mc too - wants Elsa's lynch, or just assuming I'm going to be lynched otherwise.

My read on TLK isn't that strong anymore, cause I had forgotten that early SS soft form him (thx Una to bring it back for us) and Profil with RCE bailing from his wagon after SS claim (too lazy to go check times, but they were on last TLK's VC and disappeared in final VC)

So, Mc red flip would give us some juicy associations


I only unvoted after his claim and even that took some time since I didn't believe it coming from my top scumread day 1. So the soft claim case is bs do some leg work man.

I also publicly stated my vote had moved while TLK was still putting his votecounts together to indicate he should take my vote off of it.

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Post Post #3939  (isolation #205)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:42 am

I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?

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Post Post #3942  (isolation #206)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:09 am

The vote on SS claim, the willingness to hammer the SS claim, the possibility he is outed by the day rep selection process. If he's outed by the day rep selection process TLK is probably also scum so it's two for 1 and 3 for 1 if Karmeleon turns out scum.

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Post Post #3943  (isolation #207)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:11 am

I had a weird, grammatical moment there...anyways. yeah the reasoning for Ramcius as town all falls away if TLK is not supersaint and could easily be a scum play though I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt at this point.

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Post Post #3949  (isolation #208)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:47 am

In post 3946, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:I think McQueen is town and Elsa is open wolfing.

How's your golf swing?


You think he's town, but you not putting any real defence to save him?

Is Elsa your strongest scumread? What about other people?

Well he's not as strong a townread as say, Bef or Nero. And if he flips scum well good for him, and maybe good for you. Probably not good for me because then I become a mislynch but that's another can of worms.

Elsa is indeed my strongest scumread. PP is next in line and then it's something like Karmeleon, UL, Gamma off the top of my head. There's scum in the active posters somewhere but I'd search harder after a flip.

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Post Post #3955  (isolation #209)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:00 am

So originally I gave credit to Una townslipping in that post for the suggestion that it was a team of 3 and not 5. Since it implies there isn't involvement with a scum pt in a subtle way and it's been stated by Boon that scum has 5 members.

But then I remembered it's a 23p game and thinking 3 scum in a 23p is pretty out there so maybe it was intentional after all.

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Post Post #3967  (isolation #210)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:36 am

In post 3957, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3955, RCEnigma wrote:So originally I gave credit to Una townslipping in that post for the suggestion that it was a team of 3 and not 5. Since it implies there isn't involvement with a scum pt in a subtle way and it's been stated by Boon that scum has 5 members.

But then I remembered it's a 23p game and thinking 3 scum in a 23p is pretty out there so maybe it was intentional after all.


Yeah, I tend to agree that why would anyone - unless they were a total newb at Mafia, ever seriously think this?

At any rate, it’s NAI at best. I was in a game (on MU) where scum actually hadn’t read the the first page and honestly didn’t know that there was an SK in the setup.

So, I tend to view most derps as NAI, until proven otherwise or whatever logic dictates.

However, this particular slip, really is out there, like you say.


That's a different case. Scum!Una would know how many names showed up in the PT, even without knowing 1 scum flipped it's unlikely scum tries to wifom 3 scum over say 4. But idk.

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Post Post #3968  (isolation #211)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:39 am

In post 3964, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3961, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3959, DrewVa wrote:
In post 3917, Cheeky Dancer wrote:BEF I thought you were town until I didn't.

Scum shade not to do 101:

"It's strange you haven't said anything for a long time"
"Are you still grasping to your idea"

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@BEF, why is your play so very different here, than in Overkill 2?


I had a totally different role than I have here. And besides I was on the defensive for most of that game due to my fake guilty.
How would you differentiate my play between these 2 games?


You only wanted to sheep wagons for the most part and that was right from the beginning of that game - well before you made your fake guilty.

And actually, your play in that game really made no sense wrt your role. Why does a town PGO act the way you did? I would think the optimal play for a town PGO would be to blatantly obvtown it, in order to draw out the NK - not to play so suspiciously that you got nullread at best. So, you playing so very differently here wrt to that makes 0 sense. Also, you tunneling us over NAI shit and ignoring any obvious towntells, doesn’t really inspire me with confidence but it’s your vote pressure argument, that has me wondering the most. You said Profil was way off on that and I read your reaction to that as townie but it really doesn’t make sense. So, I’m wondering if I’ve been misreading what I believed was sincerity for something else? I confess, I never checked out those links you gave me. Would you mind giving them to me again? Thanks.


Bef was my buddy in OK 2 so all he had to do was sheep me :lol:

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Post Post #3987  (isolation #212)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:47 am

Karmeleon voted before the claim.

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Post Post #4006  (isolation #213)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:40 am

In post 4001, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 3997, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3939, RCEnigma wrote:Elsa is open wolfing.

Unfortunately NAI for him.


Can't be caught as a wolf if anything and everything you do is scummy, right?


....fair actually. I have no rebuttal.

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Post Post #4031  (isolation #214)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:15 am

Lol creature is for sure scum.

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Post Post #4080  (isolation #215)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:52 pm

In post 4073, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I think Creature is scum and he just spewed mcqueen town. I'm going to move my vote.

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Post Post #4129  (isolation #216)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:13 pm

In post 4123, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4117, Creature wrote:Thanos 0-0-0
Ultimate Liars 0-0-0
Profii 0-0-0
Mcqueen 0-0-0
Davesaz 0-0-0
The Last Knight 0-0-0
Cheeky Dancer 0-0-0
Theta Alpine 0-0-0
Elsa Jay 0-0-0
Something_Smart 0-0-0
Gamma Emerald 0-0-0
Xtoxm 0-0-0
DrewVa 0-0-0
BrightEyedFish 0-0-0
Ramcius 0-0-0
Nev and Max 0-0-0
Alonzo 0-0-0
Emperors New Groove 0-0-0
RCEnigma 0-0-0
Nero Cain 0-0-1


you do realize that you've done this exact same thing as scum b4, right?


I think the fact you replaced him in that game is ironic btw. But yes creature is scum claiming.

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Post Post #4131  (isolation #217)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:14 pm

Do I have to change my vote from Karmeleon to creature? Anyone know?

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Post Post #4142  (isolation #218)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:19 pm

That's a joke for what? 3 people in this game?

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Post Post #4146  (isolation #219)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:22 pm

In post 4139, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4135, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4128, DrewVa wrote:Nero... That was the joke

@nancy, hes shitposting about his last scum game -d


I don’t know how to read Creature here. :(


Medium confidence this is town creature. I've only been wrong about him once lol, ironically in the game he just referenced -d

To be fair I thought he was town that game as well. Not so much his replacements.

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Post Post #4149  (isolation #220)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:24 pm

In post 4143, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4126, Creature wrote:
In post 4115, Ramcius wrote:
In post 4109, Creature wrote:
In post 4099, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4090, Creature wrote:
In post 4076, davesaz wrote:I'm leaning toward both scum on that interaction.

I'm leaning we're gonna mislynch today.


Well you need to help me figure out who is town out of elsa, theta replacement, and ram -d

Dunno what to think about Elsa rn. If Elsa was a different person than JaydragonKing then I'd have a fairly strong townread.

Theta replacement is UnaBombaH I guess? Meh, lean town.

Ramcius idk and I could entertain pissing him off a little more.


You can try your luck, I'd like some entertainment in here

My vote is on you, Bill O'Reilly style.


I guess that answers my question. Creature sounds a bit too confident to be scum. ISO him in Heroes, he was frozen and timid there.


Based on NK's normal, where his town/nuetral/scummy list is from I think his scumplay is significantly better when active.

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Post Post #4151  (isolation #221)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:25 pm

It's a meh joke.

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Post Post #4154  (isolation #222)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:29 pm

Nancy defending Creature here is town meta indicative. However Creatures lack of meaningful evaluation or catchup is scum indicative in my eyes. That with the replace to his main and activity specifically after catching heat post-Una's replacement.

There was a brief moment of Karmeleon showing interest when Una started their catchup but no follow up to that at all so that kind of sticks out.

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Post Post #4168  (isolation #223)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:41 pm

I think Neros town for now, we haven't had any meaningful interactions since the silly early posts so it could be Nero avoiding me to muddle a read but not super likely.

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Post Post #4177  (isolation #224)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:46 pm

In post 4172, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 4167, Creature wrote:
In post 4159, DrewVa wrote:Any thoughts about N & M?

If one of the heads is Malakitty and was actually posting, then likely they're town.


Maybe approx 5 posts tops? Is that town indicative for Mala?


It's not not town Indicative for mala.

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Post Post #4207  (isolation #225)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:15 pm

In post 4200, Creature wrote:
In post 4197, DrewVa wrote:I actually really liked RCE for town until this RL day, do you think he's town outside of misreading you? -D

I'm not even scumreading him for misreading me.

Creature opened the day scumreading me for reasons only known to him.

Is pushing on creature the reason you're backing off your townread dva?

I was avoiding omgusing Karmeleon for most of the day but I agree with Unas points and if the day reps aren't directly tied to winning the boonus round then scum would nominate a slot with some town credibility. Or at least a slot that has a loud backing, the backing off someone like Drewva.

I think Ramcius doesn't make a ton of sense as a scum nomination with Ramcius offering to be the hammer on the SS claim again unless scum with TLK.

Nancy wasn't in the scum!creature game with us, creature doesn't feel the same as he did in that game so +town points but it was pretty recent and slots that were also in that game include (Dva, myself, Profii, Nero whom replaced into his slot). That's a fair amount of slots that would be privy to his recent scum play and that would be reason enough to take a different approach. His day 2 is especially coasty which somewhat fits his previous scum meta.

I'd also argue this doesn't feel like his town game from OK 2 and I was 3p but I defended creature on the fact he was obvtowning that game. I'm in a less indifferent position now and I'm not getting that at all.

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Post Post #4212  (isolation #226)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:33 pm

In post 4210, Creature wrote:
In post 4207, RCEnigma wrote:His day 2 is especially coasty which somewhat fits his previous scum meta.

First things first is that you should check if there's a reason town!me could be coasting.

[Sure, is a decent scumscuse as well so it's a wash] Game is too slow and uninteresting?
[Don't agree but to each their own] Or simply nothing interesting is happening?
[Depends on scum if you're town, depending on the team there are probably 3 or 4 slots I would nightkill before you. Main account or not.] Not wanting to make it obvious who I actually am so I get a chance to survive tonight?
[I wouldn't know] Hard to post from an alt?
[If it's important, use it or make yourself an unlikely nk target. Hard mislynches and quiet town are always good no targets, the latter for that reason.] I actually have a reason I don't want to be a nightkill priority?

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Post Post #4213  (isolation #227)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:35 pm

I should have bolded the brackets.

In any case the short of it is I don't see why any of these besides maybe the last can only be town reasons for barely playing.

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Post Post #4219  (isolation #228)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:31 pm

I didn't predicate my read on you lurking. That was an aside to Nancy who based their read on you having some amount of posts.

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Post Post #4220  (isolation #229)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:32 pm

In post 4217, Ramcius wrote:I did some thinking and I have hard time finding reason for scum Creature to come out like that and defend Town Mc. Wouldn't be easier for his team to push Mc lynch then? They already at disadvantage after ENF lynch, so putting Creature under fire like that isn't wise.


If both you and McQueen are town does this hold true for you?

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Post Post #4223  (isolation #230)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:05 pm

Well your argument is that creature isn't scum because he's defending McQueen instead of pushing a mislynch. If the two of you are both town and both the talked about wagons why would it matter that creature defended one of two mislynches? Scum wins out in that situation either way.

Even if the slot they defend gets lynched they get towncred on a townflip. If you as town get lynched then it doesn't matter, you were the counterwagon anyway.

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Post Post #4235  (isolation #231)  » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:07 pm

I do think the playerlist is dividing up in a clear way at the moment and any flip that isn't UL, gamma, Dave would really fit some pieces together.

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Post Post #4264  (isolation #232)  » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:52 am

Profii are you ok?

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Post Post #4266  (isolation #233)  » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:04 am

I'm good, lemme get a preemptive wagon analysis minus the votes. Specifically do you agree with xtoxm asserting creature has to be town because a consensus is being reached?

Creature flipping town looks bad for Ramcius I guess but moreso for McQueen and quite a few vocal slots look suspicious then, myself included. But what if Creature does flip scum? Creatures gotten more than enough support the opposite a few of the slots I townread.

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Post Post #4279  (isolation #234)  » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:23 pm

If it doesn't influence your read in any way then it's pointless to ask.

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Post Post #4474  (isolation #235)  » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:47 pm

Don't suppose I can change my vote now?

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Post Post #4477  (isolation #236)  » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:12 am

Not sure, none of my scumreads are gonna be lynched. Feels bad man.

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Post Post #4488  (isolation #237)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:58 pm

I know there is one winner in the dayreps. I think it's a little less important now that you guys lynched Ramcius.

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Post Post #4489  (isolation #238)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:00 pm

But all of today's dayreps are slots that would have been eligible for boonus round games last night.

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Post Post #4495  (isolation #239)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:35 pm

Well scum didn't go for any night 1 winners so it seems they aren't too worried about it. Whatever floats their boat.

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Post Post #4500  (isolation #240)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:38 pm

Nev and Max, Elsa, Something Smart. My Lynch pool for today. I still want Creature dead but I'd rather Lynch on wagon.

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Post Post #4501  (isolation #241)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:39 pm

In post 4498, profii wrote:I gave the sticky fruit to my loyal dude so hopefully they can give it to someone tonight to 'cop' someone

I also did something else but idk if I should out it yet... I'll let people decide and that

Forgot your role but I did wanna hear about the sticky fruit. The rest can wait if you want to out it later or hold it.

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Post Post #4504  (isolation #242)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:42 pm

In post 4502, davesaz wrote:
In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?


I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.

I think it's a massive wifom and not worth any more posts.

It could block scum from using their nominations so I don't see a problem with it.

The most you gain from knowing the winners is the possible modifier they gain.

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Post Post #4505  (isolation #243)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:43 pm

I'm fine with Bef as town. The logic behind his theory made sense. Lynching Ramcius didn't but I'm sure scum was content with letting him push that narrative.

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Post Post #4507  (isolation #244)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:45 pm

Dave you've kinda been white noise for me this game, shotgun some of your reads. They don't necessarily have to be in depth.

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Post Post #4508  (isolation #245)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:45 pm

In post 4506, Creature wrote:
In post 4497, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4495, RCEnigma wrote:Well scum didn't go for any night 1 winners so it seems they aren't too worried about it. Whatever floats their boat.


Maybe there was scum in the previous day reps.

Was it Ramcius?

8 letters.

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Post Post #4518  (isolation #246)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:52 pm

In post 4509, Creature wrote:
In post 2403, Boonskiies wrote:
Day 2 RepresentativesThese 4 people will be responsible for ending the day phase. They just have to vote to end the day. When 3 of the 4 of them do, the day will end, or whenever the countdown times out. Plurality Lynch Rule applies, meaning whoever has the most votes at the end of the day, will be the lynch. You will vote within your private thread. Good luck, and have fun.

Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa)
Karmeleon

(expired on 2019-01-14 18:00:00) on January 14th, 2019.

None of them have 8 letters


Creature does.

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Post Post #4530  (isolation #247)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:01 pm

In post 4507, RCEnigma wrote:Dave you've kinda been white noise for me this game, shotgun some of your reads. They don't necessarily have to be in depth.

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Post Post #4638  (isolation #248)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:01 pm

In post 4632, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 2544, profii wrote:I received a sticky fruit so I’m going to give the fruit to the person I made loyal and then I guess they can cop someone


Why would you make loyal and send sticky fruit to someone you scumread and voted?


Does it make it so you can only pass the fruit to the same alignment? Then it's like having a 1 time cop check. That is if there is only 1 sticky fruit out there.

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Post Post #4639  (isolation #249)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:02 pm

Uhh Nero?

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Post Post #4644  (isolation #250)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:05 pm

Why does that matter then if Profii isn't the one with the loyal modifier? It only matters for the slot passing the fruit along. Not the receiver.

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Post Post #4646  (isolation #251)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:06 pm

TLK passing the fruit is the check, that's what I meant.

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Post Post #4655  (isolation #252)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:12 pm

In post 4647, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4644, RCEnigma wrote:Why does that matter then if Profii isn't the one with the loyal modifier? It only matters for the slot passing the fruit along. Not the receiver.


Right...what's your question? I'm not disputing that TLK has the sticky fruit and a loyal modifier. I am asking profii why he did that.

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It's not a check if he's cum.

Ok but TLK's claim means he is lynched this game 100% of the time so it resolves itself. Tomorrow he is probably the designated Lynch tbf.

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Post Post #4711  (isolation #253)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:59 pm

In post 4653, Nev and Max wrote:And why the fuck would I talk about seeing how Lonzo could be scum and then kill him overnight? If we are scum wouldnt we have been trying to get you guys on our side on him and make a push for him today?


I don't know the proper thing to call this. But I know, cheeky knows, you know, Alonzo knows... You weren't getting Alonzo lynched this game as either alignment.

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Post Post #4713  (isolation #254)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:01 am

In post 4657, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4655, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4647, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4644, RCEnigma wrote:Why does that matter then if Profii isn't the one with the loyal modifier? It only matters for the slot passing the fruit along. Not the receiver.


Right...what's your question? I'm not disputing that TLK has the sticky fruit and a loyal modifier. I am asking profii why he did that.

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It's not a check if he's cum.

Ok but TLK's claim means he is lynched this game 100% of the time so it resolves itself. Tomorrow he is probably the designated Lynch tbf.

how long are we gonna keep saying that until this man is alive in lyli


When people stop lynching the townies willing to test the SS claim zzz.

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Post Post #4721  (isolation #255)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:09 am

In post 4701, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4700, Elsa Jay wrote:What gave away the possibility of me being a traitor? Me literally bolding it in the thread and telling mafia not to shoot me?


I mean yeah, and then how you used those points as explination of how you are actually the miller. I mean, regardless your slot needs to be RUTHLESSLY MURDERED at some point, it was more me talking about how the recruit might happen and how we would need to watch out for a missing nk.


FTFY.

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Post Post #4723  (isolation #256)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:11 am

Remind me about claim timing In post game McQueen.

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Post Post #4724  (isolation #257)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:12 am

I agree if you're saying having Elsa around is bad for town.

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Post Post #4725  (isolation #258)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:14 am

Agreed actually. In the scenario that PP is outing false information he gets lynched after you and I don't think scum have enough mislynches to go 1 for 1 today?

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Post Post #4729  (isolation #259)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:25 am

Well she's voting against town so ...problem solved I guess.

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Post Post #4732  (isolation #260)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:29 am

Vote Count 3.~~
Nev and Max [1]: McQueen
Gamma Emerald [1]: Creature
BrightEyedFish[1]: Profii
Creature[1]: RCEnigma
ElsaJay[2]: RCEnigma, TLK
Not Voting [14]: Kokichi Oma, BrightEyedFish, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, DrewVa, UnaBombah, Nev and Max, Davesaz, Xtoxm, PenguinPower, Nero Cain, Gamma Emerald, Thanos, Cheeky Dancer

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Post Post #4735  (isolation #261)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:30 am

Ram was an all town vote is what you're saying? What about Theta?

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Post Post #4736  (isolation #262)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:30 am

It is, I'll Lynch either of them.

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Post Post #4740  (isolation #263)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:34 am

Which is why I'm looking at both the late day 1 push on Theta and the opening day 2 discussion against Theta with the AC kill. There's a scum narrative there in my opinion.

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Post Post #4742  (isolation #264)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:34 am

In post 4739, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4648, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4647, PenguinPower wrote:It's not a check if he's cum.

TLK is cum confirmed.

We’re all cum if you think about it

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Post Post #4744  (isolation #265)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:35 am

In post 4741, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4736, RCEnigma wrote:It is, I'll Lynch either of them.

That’s not how a VC works...

I'm townreading you, don't push it.

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Post Post #4747  (isolation #266)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:36 am

In post 4745, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4662, mcqueen wrote:dude why do u hate me

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Post Post #4749  (isolation #267)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:37 am

In post 4746, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4740, RCEnigma wrote:Which is why I'm looking at both the late day 1 push on Theta and the opening day 2 discussion against Theta with the AC kill. There's a scum narrative there in my opinion.


I agree. Thats why I never put much stock into NKA as town. I feel like scum would be more likely to push it as they could be the ones setting up the scenarios to begin with.


Good, we both agree Una is town then.

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Post Post #4752  (isolation #268)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:38 am

McQueen I will vote whichever wagon gains more traction. Both are scum so does it really matter?

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Post Post #4763  (isolation #269)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:48 am

In post 4751, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait that means CD had to have planned to push you today. Um....


This is worth further discussion. This was my hang up when cheeky posted their case. The phrasing didn't come across as a recount of events. So first impression was that they copied the discussion into their confessional but I hadn't considered the implications there yet.

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Post Post #4765  (isolation #270)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:49 am

In post 4760, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4732, RCEnigma wrote:
Vote Count 3.~~
Nev and Max [1]: McQueen
Gamma Emerald [1]: Creature
BrightEyedFish[1]: Profii
Creature[1]: RCEnigma
ElsaJay[2]: RCEnigma, TLK
Not Voting [14]: Kokichi Oma, BrightEyedFish, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, DrewVa, UnaBombah, Nev and Max, Davesaz, Xtoxm, PenguinPower, Nero Cain, Gamma Emerald, Thanos, Cheeky Dancer

Pls have one vote only, we’re not trying to coordinate a lynch yet


Then take me out and let me know when you guys are ready to Lynch scum.

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Post Post #4766  (isolation #271)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:50 am

Alonzo was almost always the nk so...

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Post Post #4768  (isolation #272)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:54 am

Alonzo's the only universal townread, scum can't leave him in the game. Not after power lynching scum day 1. There's also the possibility he's a PR as he hadn't hinted either way.

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Post Post #4770  (isolation #273)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:56 am

For clarity I'm making it known where my vote would go, that's the whole point of the votecount. Clarity. I don't really care for the VC in thread I've already said this but I figured I'll humor the rest of the town and participate. I probably won't going forward but consider my votes there.

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Post Post #4772  (isolation #274)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:59 am

In post 4769, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4768, RCEnigma wrote:Alonzo's the only universal townread, scum can't leave him in the game. Not after power lynching scum day 1. There's also the possibility he's a PR as he hadn't hinted either way.


I was biased because i know his read on us is wrong, so I was trying to figure out if he was wrong town, or just scum.

Sure bussing is a thing but I'd argue with the anonymous voting until day end, bussing is much less effective early. Alonzo has to buss flippy day 1 with the hope some protective is covering his ass to use that as his excuse for surviving.

Scum generally don't rely on town to get their story straight for them.

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Post Post #4773  (isolation #275)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:01 am

With that said on one hand I understand Cheekys argument against you fully, it's an odd interaction but comes down to wifom I guess. Cheeky didn't present it well.

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Post Post #4787  (isolation #276)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:46 am

In post 4780, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4740, RCEnigma wrote:Which is why I'm looking at both the late day 1 push on Theta and the opening day 2 discussion against Theta with the AC kill. There's a scum narrative there in my opinion.

How is that a scum narrative if AC had a scumread on Theta?

That doesn't make AC right. Theta being AC's only real scumread makes it even less likely that Theta is scum.

Consider the context, Scum lose Flippy day 1 (rolecop I think) there was another push on Theta that broke down in the end in favor of flippy. Then in the night AC does with a scumread on Theta.

Scum would have to be deliberately trying to get their partner Theta killed, Theta already had the lurking going against them. Probably enough fuel to get Theta lynched if town isn't coordinating votes. Then they add the nightkill on top of it....after losing one scum already.

Theta's slot was just day 2 lynchbait.

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Post Post #4791  (isolation #277)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:49 am

In post 4789, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4784, DrewVa wrote:so no sig = nev right?

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Pretty much, im lazy and feel like you guys will know when im posting and not max

True, Max is way sweeter lol.

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Post Post #4794  (isolation #278)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:52 am

In post 4781, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4752, RCEnigma wrote:McQueen I will vote whichever wagon gains more traction. Both are scum so does it really matter?

But I townread both of them, that's the matter.


Uhh...why? Elsa's claimed traitor already. Why townread creature?

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Post Post #4795  (isolation #279)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:52 am

In post 4793, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4787, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4780, mcqueen wrote:
In post 4740, RCEnigma wrote:Which is why I'm looking at both the late day 1 push on Theta and the opening day 2 discussion against Theta with the AC kill. There's a scum narrative there in my opinion.

How is that a scum narrative if AC had a scumread on Theta?

That doesn't make AC right. Theta being AC's only real scumread makes it even less likely that Theta is scum.

Consider the context, Scum lose Flippy day 1 (rolecop I think) there was another push on Theta that broke down in the end in favor of flippy. Then in the night AC does with a scumread on Theta.

Scum would have to be deliberately trying to get their partner Theta killed, Theta already had the lurking going against them. Probably enough fuel to get Theta lynched if town isn't coordinating votes. Then they add the nightkill on top of it....after losing one scum already.

Theta's slot was just day 2 lynchbait.


To piggy back on that a bit. If Theta was the "counter" to flippy he would have had to been more useful to scum than a role cop, right?

If these were the only 2 options maybe. Unlikely though.

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Post Post #4796  (isolation #280)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:53 am

You don't have to understand it to let it go, let it gooooo.

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Post Post #4798  (isolation #281)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:03 am

I'm not sure what scum roles are available but if they don't trump Rolecop I would even say scum wasn't on the flippy wagon.

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Post Post #4799  (isolation #282)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:05 am

Hmm, UB is possible for scum so that statement doesn't really hold weight.

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Post Post #4806  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:37 am

Seems so, not seeing anything that would redirect a role or switch slots. I doubt Joat would have anything like that and there can only be 1 sticky fruit vendor.

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Post Post #4808  (isolation #284)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:38 am

I don't think we should have been able to view the boonus round room if we weren't in it tbh.

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Post Post #4820  (isolation #285)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:50 am

Who hasn't been in a boonus round yet? I didn't copy the list from our game.

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Post Post #4824  (isolation #286)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:52 am

In post 4818, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4808, RCEnigma wrote:I don't think we should have been able to view the boonus round room if we weren't in it tbh.


That was done because of Perf quoting parts of my posts from that thread in this thread. I asked for dull disclosure since he cherry picked.


That's fine but it affects multiple slots where it otherwise wouldn't have. I'm not complaining about town having access to more information but I'm speaking from a perspective of fairness.

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Post Post #4826  (isolation #287)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:54 am

In post 4821, Nero Cain wrote:Firstly, the BOONus rounds have nothing to do with our alignments in the main game and secondly, shit was stalled for hours so I lol voted Gamma mostly b/c I didn't know what to do. Why would you think it was suspicious anyways?


People keep saying that but actions in the boonus round can absolutely be tied to main game alignment. For example my townread on xtoxm is much stronger after the boonus round.

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Post Post #4829  (isolation #288)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:56 am

In post 4827, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh Thanos seemed very desperate to win the round. Wonder why that was.


I don't want to point out the obvious but it's clear why either alignment would have want the +1. The modifiers are hit or miss.

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Post Post #4832  (isolation #289)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:58 am

I didn't say it was scummy so... I don't know i guess?

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Post Post #4835  (isolation #290)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:00 am

Who you end up in the boonus round with is important for that reason.

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Post Post #4837  (isolation #291)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:01 am

Yes I would assume most roles are 1-shot or X-shot. Winning the boonus round gives you an extra shot on your ability.

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Post Post #4840  (isolation #292)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:02 am

In post 4834, mcqueen wrote:Can someone explain to me what the +1 that you get from winning a BOONus round does? I still don't understand. Does it give you an additional ability at Night? So, if you were a Cop in the main game and won a BOONus round, you'd get two inspections the following night?


Are you guys gonna keep scumreading McQueen after this post?

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Post Post #4844  (isolation #293)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:04 am

Those are two different topics, why would I answer if it doesn't have anything to do with my point.

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Post Post #4846  (isolation #294)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:05 am

Man I really need to utilize my confessional, I had thoughts on Drewva in the boonus round that I've completely forgotten.

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Post Post #4847  (isolation #295)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:06 am

To anyone doubting his VT claim really.

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Post Post #4849  (isolation #296)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:06 am

Maybe I'm gullible but it's believable to me.

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Post Post #4882  (isolation #297)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:45 am

I've played with Kokichi town but it was a rep into a lethargic game.

In SSBU Kokichi was lurky as scum but more involved...if that makes sense. Present enough to know what's going on but not draw attention. Active early that game though iirc.

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Post Post #4889  (isolation #298)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:52 am

In post 4886, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?


Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.


Why should we be worried about that?


This gave me pause when I realized Nero had been in 2 games because I had a theory that 3 scum couldn't occupy 1 room and that randomization pushed 3 together. Someone would have been forced out to compensate but it was a theory.

But now I think everyone has been involved in a boonus round and Nero was the first overlap.

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Post Post #4897  (isolation #299)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:04 am

Just the charges on your ability not the ability itself afaik.

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Post Post #4939  (isolation #300)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:40 am

In post 4925, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4840, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4834, mcqueen wrote:Can someone explain to me what the +1 that you get from winning a BOONus round does? I still don't understand. Does it give you an additional ability at Night? So, if you were a Cop in the main game and won a BOONus round, you'd get two inspections the following night?


Are you guys gonna keep scumreading McQueen after this post?


Yeah, I think this locks him in as town, since he hasn’t played in it yet, right?


We aren't on the same page here. He's VT or very committed to hammering the bit home.

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Post Post #4942  (isolation #301)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:44 am

In post 4937, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4907, Thanos wrote:
In post 4905, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 4484, Xtoxm wrote:did someone let una win a prize
What on earth is this post supposed to be? :lol:
Anyone who ends up reading Boonus Room A at any future point should be able to clearly see that I had no selfish agenda last night. :]
Also wanna play ball with everyone here - apparently some think it's better to not out who won/didn't win, and why.
Why is that?
If Boonus Room B had scum winning the game, their team already knows they won, and WHAT they won.
So why not give the town the same information?
Gives the scum less room later...or am I missing something? :?

WHY ARE WE THEORIZING ABOUT WHY/WHO GET TO BE DAY-REPS?
Outside of the obvious "scum can choose one day-rep" there's no incentive to do that.
And after D2, I don't think it's worth it to guess how someone became a rep. or not.
It only meant something last gameday, because I'm still arguing that scum couldn't have known that their ability to choose one of themselves was going to be outed.
At least not as soon as it did get outed. :lol:

At least one scum in D2 day-reps. I'm not gonna change my view on that even if Ram flipped town.

In post 4548, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Also, I have some interesting news I feel like sharing, which could possibly help us. It's regarding the BOONus game.
I'm at this post for now.
Have to work a little, and will catch up tonight. :]


Yeah, this is why I informed town on day 2 of all the prizes which could really mess town's power roles up. But gamma was very against this preferring his privacy, think about that. Preferring no one to know you won when prizes like:

-immune to night actions
-immune to tracking


I can check his posts but I’m pretty sure, he was just opposed to outing the winners and what prizes they got?


Because outing winners could out prs. Talking about gifting could out roles as well or at least make PR hunting easier for scum. Tbh now that I've read room C, played in a boonus room game, and from claims etc. I can probably pin down PR/scum slots. Meaning they are either PR or scum as opposed to vanilla.

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Post Post #4943  (isolation #302)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:46 am

In post 4940, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4938, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4911, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4908, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4803, BrightEyedFish wrote:Yeah, I think TLK made up that whole fruit thing. Just like the SS thing.


I can see the SS but why would someone make up receiving sticky fruit? But something definitely weird is going on with that.


Maybe TLK got a little stressed out form the pressure from PP about receiving something last night and just went out on a limb to say he received fruit.


But it seems an odd thing to fakeclaim, especially when he couldn’t have guessed what Penguin would have given him.


Well, profii had the fruit and he said he didn't pass it along to TLK. So either there is some mechainc/role that is redirecting or TLK lied. I would ask profii to say who he intended to give the fruit to but that would out his loyal gift as well so we can forget that from now.

Is it possible for there to be 2 fruit vendors?


There can be 2 fruit vendors but only 1 sticky fruit vendor.

Also Profii shouldn't claim who he gave it to. The recipient should claim it.

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Post Post #4947  (isolation #303)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:52 am

I'm mistaken actually, boon bank roles can be variants and in our large there can be 2 variants. Not sure what that means honestly, I don't have any context for what variants roles are.

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Post Post #4951  (isolation #304)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:55 am

In post 4946, DrewVa wrote:Oh so you did get to play then. I’m guessing RCE is then saying that you wouldn’t be asking these questions in the main thread if you were scum. Is that correct, @RCE?


To some degree. I think he would be able to piece it together if he had a scum pt, he would be able to see his partners have X-shot abilities even if he's a goon or something. Then he would just put two and two together.

From the perspective of being Vanilla town it feels organic to question how the +1 worked.

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Post Post #4956  (isolation #305)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:58 am

Woo! Go Una!

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Post Post #4957  (isolation #306)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:00 am

In post 3, Boonskiies wrote:These roles are roles that have been seen before, but are not free reign. One of these roles is acceptable, if more are used, they will take the spot of a variant role.

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Post Post #4960  (isolation #307)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:01 am

In reference to the boon bank roles:

Cleric
Enchantress
Sticky fruit vendor
Will booster
Symbiote something.

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Post Post #4963  (isolation #308)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:03 am

In post 4959, mcqueen wrote:Why RCE why? Do u not trust me with a prize when u townread me


Sure. Do I trust Una a bit more? Also sure.

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Post Post #4966  (isolation #309)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:04 am

They aren't all winners, nev and max lost.

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Post Post #4968  (isolation #310)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:05 am

Oh....well that's unfortunate. You all lost in room A?

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Post Post #4970  (isolation #311)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:06 am

In post 4967, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4951, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4946, DrewVa wrote:Oh so you did get to play then. I’m guessing RCE is then saying that you wouldn’t be asking these questions in the main thread if you were scum. Is that correct, @RCE?


To some degree. I think he would be able to piece it together if he had a scum pt, he would be able to see his partners have X-shot abilities even if he's a goon or something. Then he would just put two and two together.

From the perspective of being Vanilla town it feels organic to question how the +1 worked.


Yeah, any winner or scum, would be able to make sense of it.


Yes, it's arbitrary to ask as scum.

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Post Post #4971  (isolation #312)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:07 am

Well, if you win you could send me a vig shot or something, I'll stage a coup and shoot the Queen.

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Post Post #4973  (isolation #313)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:11 am

At least Elsa lost, job well done guys.

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Post Post #4985  (isolation #314)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:26 am

Room B was 3 town doing town things. 1 was just unfortunately the wrong color.

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Post Post #4986  (isolation #315)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:27 am

Or Elsa just hammers TLK today. Fine with that tbh.

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Post Post #4991  (isolation #316)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:29 am

Xtoxm, Nero, and myself.

In the rules it states all three could be the same alignment. Which is why compromise is a thing.

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Post Post #4995  (isolation #317)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:34 am

Yes boon said this could happen.

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Post Post #4997  (isolation #318)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:43 am

During our boonus round I thought about the way Drewva handled the game and would agree. Especially with how the day 1 Lynch played out and then getting a game with Alonzo.

Which makes me feel conflicted because otherwise I think Nancy is town and less so Dva which is the opposite of OK 2.

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Post Post #5005  (isolation #319)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:49 am

There are two other rooms that games are played in Profii.

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Post Post #5006  (isolation #320)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:51 am

Cool, we lynch TLK today then, there is no redirector/ bus driver in the role list.

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Post Post #5008  (isolation #321)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:52 am

Then I get to kick myself for being right on my day 1 scumread and then second guessing it all game....again.

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Post Post #5010  (isolation #322)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:53 am

Kokichi is the last one right?

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Post Post #5030  (isolation #323)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:20 am

Inventor isn't in the rolebook either. Maybe the variants can be roles outside of the list? It's pretty confusing.

Are the people that you give modifiers to notified that this happens?

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Post Post #5052  (isolation #324)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:30 am

Mastina is the other head, why are you still metareading malakitty?

Profii isn't the sticky fruit vendor he claimed inventor that received a sticky fruit. Profii made someone loyal and passed the fruit to them.

Keep in mind the boon bank roles could be scum(?) I haven't read anything that locks them to an alignment.

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Post Post #5065  (isolation #325)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:00 am

Thought Max claimed to be Mastina in the boonus room. I wasn't too Keen to go through so maybe I misread.

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Post Post #5241  (isolation #326)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:05 pm

I've heard the same 3-4 things 10 different ways today End the day

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Post Post #5252  (isolation #327)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:31 pm

In post 5247, Elsa Jay wrote:Wow. NOBODY brought it up?

Hell, I was expecting to get shot by the vig. Why did they holster?


Why are people worried about the vig shot when town has numbers? Literally does not matter.

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Post Post #5258  (isolation #328)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:05 pm

In post 5257, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5255, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 5067, Lamees wrote:Actually scratch that, scum couldve given him one and then just not say anything.


My current theory.


Current theory is that scum as an ungated sticky fruit vendor and there are now multiple sticky fruits being passed around?

Or won a +1 night 1.

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Post Post #5267  (isolation #329)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:30 pm

I'm not voting TLK at this point. If Elsa hammers him and he's scum, Great. If Elsa hammers and he's supersaint, even better.

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Post Post #5272  (isolation #330)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:33 pm

In post 5259, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5258, RCEnigma wrote:Or won a +1 night 1.


Ok...then why has no one else said anything?

Idk I think he's scum. But like I said BoonBank could be a scum role. So there's a world where a scum stickyfruit vendor won night 1 and passed Profii a fruit night one then passed another night 2.

It still doesn't explain what happened to Profiis fruit which is why I'm content with thinking TLK is lying.

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Post Post #5273  (isolation #331)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:34 pm

Actually ehh I'm vote gimme a sec.

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Post Post #5274  (isolation #332)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:36 pm

In post 5269, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 5267, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not voting TLK at this point. If Elsa hammers him and he's scum, Great. If Elsa hammers and he's supersaint, even better.


Soo....nothing.


What??

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Post Post #5277  (isolation #333)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:38 pm

On TLK not to end the day.

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Post Post #5283  (isolation #334)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:49 pm

I'm not a day rep so no lol.

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Post Post #5284  (isolation #335)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:50 pm

Bolded for emphasis.

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Post Post #5288  (isolation #336)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:07 am

I'm just upset Profii didn't pick me.

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Post Post #5289  (isolation #337)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:08 am

Makes me a sad sad panda.

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Post Post #5291  (isolation #338)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:22 am

Woah! If that's not the scummiest post in this game...

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Post Post #5303  (isolation #339)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:34 am

In post 5299, Nero Cain wrote:oh noes, my grasp with Nancy is fading.


Good thing it's just Dva.

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Post Post #5310  (isolation #340)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:45 am

Well you kinda townread me, and I townread Nero, which never happens sooo.

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Post Post #5312  (isolation #341)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:47 am

No one else has claimed a sticky fruit so in my head I'm going wtf. But we can get Elsa to hammer which is muy importante.

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Post Post #5333  (isolation #342)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:54 am

In post 5322, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 5319, Cheeky Dancer wrote:I could easily scumread every person on the ramcius wagon. Guess we just bob until there's less people. Come at us.
I'm thinking there's scum in the people that voted me at the EoD.
People who had no trouble with Ramcius being the lynch, but wanted to create a "counterwagon" when it was quite clear it wouldn't go through anymore. :]
Come at me.


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Post Post #5342  (isolation #343)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:21 am

In post 5336, profii wrote:
In post 5331, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 5328, profii wrote:you are right there is nothing mechanically making me town
And I want to be clear here profii, my man, I do not currently think you are scum.
I just think your might be way more able as scum than anyone gives you credit for.
You can come across so fking innocent and true, that if we just write you off as town based off of a role..we could be digging our way to a mass grave.. :?

lol


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i have a theory on the sticky fruit but i really need to TLK to confirm he got a sticky fruit 100% then we will go from there.


Think the dogg is why I can't sr Profii. It gets to me

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Post Post #5344  (isolation #344)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:37 am

I scumread you hard day 1, I didn't look into the eyes.

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Post Post #5345  (isolation #345)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:39 am

Dunno I still have my doubts but there are bigger issues.

So like, could I see you getting the stickyfruit and coming up with a plan to "make someone loyal" and cop check a partner as scum? Well sure. That's pretty good tbh.

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Post Post #5353  (isolation #346)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:10 am

In post 5348, BrightEyedFish wrote:EBWOP

And they would probably keep it under wraps that they received it. Maybe thats why TLK didn't announce he received the fruit until pushed. Profii on the other hand immediately announced he got the fruit at the start of D2, this makes him town for me.

That's fair, it comes out eventually if sticky fruit vendor outs but fair.

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Post Post #5358  (isolation #347)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:17 am

Super Saint is supposed to be town only. I already don't trust FL but scum supersaint would be the frosting on the cake.

With scum SS is just a venge.

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Post Post #5399  (isolation #348)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:46 am

In post 5372, mcqueen wrote:If tlk flips town im voting CD tomorrow

In post 5373, mcqueen wrote:Remember that when he NKs me.


These are the kinda posts that are gonna get you lynched because it looks so....lamist I guess.

You're a claimed VT and very much lynchable...why would cheeky NK you?

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Post Post #5408  (isolation #349)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 am

You aren't widely townread, the votes on you yesterday could easily have stuck though I feel some voters were talked down. You and Ram weren't counterwagons you were a consensus pool.

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Post Post #5411  (isolation #350)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:56 am

I think it was the typo.

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Post Post #5415  (isolation #351)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:59 am

In post 5410, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 5396, Xtoxm wrote:i did think nero and rce especially looked very town last night


In the boonus round?


Without really getting into what was said, the way our boonus round started lead me to believe both Nero and xtoxm were town. Not that I scumread either going in.

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Post Post #5417  (isolation #352)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:59 am

We talked about the game a bit.

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Post Post #5420  (isolation #353)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:01 am

He just wants your thought process.

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Post Post #5434  (isolation #354)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:12 am

That's assuming scum is on the tail end of Ramcius wagon. The way the day went it was fairly obvious the push on Ramcius was going through early barring a scumslip.

I'm not clearing Bef so there's still that possibility. I honestly thought he would be pushed harder coming into the day and I'm honestly surprised people just ran with Bef was wrong.

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Post Post #5438  (isolation #355)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:16 am

I'd agree.

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Post Post #5453  (isolation #356)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:31 am

Unfortunately the amount of flips that would have to occur before I come around to Town!Creature is way too many to be reasonable this game.

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Post Post #5457  (isolation #357)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:40 am

I didn't feel Creature was being run up by scum EoD and I feel better about it seeing how few votes he actually got. It leads me to believe there's a reason Creature didn't form into a counterwagon unrelated to town just being apprehensive near the end of the day.

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Post Post #5458  (isolation #358)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:41 am

The crowd is where scum hide so.. ya know.

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Post Post #5462  (isolation #359)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:00 am

+1. Won't ask.

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Post Post #5481  (isolation #360)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:01 am

In post 5471, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5310, RCEnigma wrote:Well you kinda townread me, and I townread Nero, which never happens sooo.


Your play here is very different here than in OK 2. You kept making posts there, that made me FOS you, with good reason. :lol:


Lol the only difference between my town game and my survivor game is that I care if I put town in a better or worse position.

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Post Post #5484  (isolation #361)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:06 am

If Profii was redirected then it's 100% scums role.

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Post Post #5486  (isolation #362)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:08 am

We always Lynch within Ram's wagon today and it should always be TLK with one of the Ram voters placing the hammer. Though truth be told I kind of like Nev today. So Elsa or SS.

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Post Post #5487  (isolation #363)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:08 am

Redirect also confirms Profii town btw.

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Post Post #5488  (isolation #364)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:10 am

Actually scratch that if Profii was redirected his loyal modifier would have been redirected too.

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Post Post #5489  (isolation #365)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:10 am

Note to self, think before typing.

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Post Post #5521  (isolation #366)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:30 am

In post 5497, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5358, RCEnigma wrote:Super Saint is supposed to be town only. I already don't trust FL but scum supersaint would be the frosting on the cake.

With scum SS is just a venge.


Why couldn’t SS be scum also?

It's in the only town rolelist.

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Post Post #5523  (isolation #367)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:36 am

In post 5521, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5497, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5358, RCEnigma wrote:Super Saint is supposed to be town only. I already don't trust FL but scum supersaint would be the frosting on the cake.

With scum SS is just a venge.


Why couldn’t SS be scum also?

It's in the only town rolelist.


I see how this is confusing I was saying that a scum Supersaint is basically a vengeful goon.

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Post Post #5525  (isolation #368)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:38 am

I don't think it's likely but it's not impossible and probably wouldn't surprise me.

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Post Post #5532  (isolation #369)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:15 pm

In post 5530, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5488, RCEnigma wrote:Actually scratch that if Profii was redirected his loyal modifier would have been redirected too.


So you do think, it’s a straight up lie then?


I'm not sure honestly.

If Profii is telling the truth about his target and his role, then redirector is not in play. In that case TLK is lying.

TLK could be telling the truth and I think I just came to the same conclusion Profii did while typing it out lol. But Profii is waiting on confirmation so I won't really go into it.

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Post Post #5533  (isolation #370)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:16 pm

Wow I didn't delete the top part.

Only read the last paragraph.

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Post Post #5545  (isolation #371)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:39 pm

In post 5540, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 5500, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5364, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5248, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Scum are likely redirecting Profii thinking he is giving out those modifiers...and surprise! TLK recieved a tasty snack instead.

I think we have our first red handed scum. How juicy.

Voting TLK.

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Yeah, that actually makes way more sense than TLK flat out lied about that.


I missed that CD post, that makes a lot of sense.


PP also fits into this somehow but if TLK flips scum PP is probably town for the gift thing that lead to talk claiming the fruit.

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Post Post #5550  (isolation #372)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:02 pm

In post 5549, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5540, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 5500, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5364, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5248, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Scum are likely redirecting Profii thinking he is giving out those modifiers...and surprise! TLK recieved a tasty snack instead.

I think we have our first red handed scum. How juicy.

Voting TLK.

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Yeah, that actually makes way more sense than TLK flat out lied about that.


I missed that CD post, that makes a lot of sense.

Wait, if scum redirected profii to TLK wouldn't that make him town?

Unless scum want to be loud or loyal?

Short answer is no not necessarily.

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Post Post #5553  (isolation #373)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:19 pm

Maybe we didn't have the same idea. Would the sticky fruit not block the modifier?

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Post Post #5556  (isolation #374)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:27 pm

That's interesting actually, if that's the case I doubt there's a redirector that only redirected the sticky fruit and not the modifier, or invention, I'm not sure how Profiis role works.

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Post Post #5559  (isolation #375)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:33 pm

Does the invention count as a passive modifier?

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Post Post #5624  (isolation #376)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:26 am

Since Profii had the fruit he couldn't be targeted by actions right? Or could he be affected by actions since he was giving it away?

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Post Post #5631  (isolation #377)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:08 am

I think all of this is semi irrelevant since it's being used to determine TLK's alignment and we are lynching him regardless of that because supersaint needs to be resolved.

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Post Post #5639  (isolation #378)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:04 am

In post 5634, Gamma Emerald wrote:2 things: first, it determines whether the current discussion is important, as from what I’ve seen it’s a lot of theory talk with little conclusions. Second it helps me get a foothold in the conversation if I want to talk about it by giving an overview of what’s going on.


Talk about something you find relevant then.

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Post Post #5650  (isolation #379)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:32 am

Present but nothing is catching my eye tbh, slots have had enough opportunity to out if they have information on where Profiis fruit or their invention went, or how tlk ended up with a fruit. Therefore the ones with this information are probably just scum and it isn't going to come to light bye asking the same questions about it.

There probably isn't a quack btw and Una was trying to catch creature out.

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Post Post #5657  (isolation #380)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:42 am

Nothing happened when drewva did this yesterday so I'd say hakuna matata.

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Post Post #5681  (isolation #381)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:38 am

We didn't have a redirect or Ascetic option no.

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Post Post #5682  (isolation #382)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:39 am

Nero voted to end the day when the day started I think.

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Post Post #5689  (isolation #383)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:59 am

That only makes sense if the two scum were in A and B. Any scum in C and they could easily assume there are at least 3 rooms.

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Post Post #5698  (isolation #384)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:14 pm

Group B was AC and I don't remember the other 2 tbh.

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Post Post #5704  (isolation #385)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:26 pm

TLK Profii and McQueen I think

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Post Post #5706  (isolation #386)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:32 pm

It's an alignment cop yeah.

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Post Post #5749  (isolation #387)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:32 pm

I'm going under the assumption that power roles are 1-shot based on the nature of winning a boonus round giving a +1 in addition to modifiers and the scum rolecop flipping 1-shot.

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Post Post #5752  (isolation #388)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:01 pm

Well...and that I guess yeah. Would make....sense.

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Post Post #5774  (isolation #389)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:20 pm

Cool, can we chop creature in half now?

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Post Post #5775  (isolation #390)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:24 pm

Since I'm now thinking about scum numbers. Boon said there were 5 contestants plotting to share the win. This kind of implies all 5 are working together. That wouldn't include traitor especially if traitor isn't recruitable.

So 5 scum and a traitor possibly but with all abilities being 1 shot I'm not sure if boon would make the game that scumsided. So maybe there isn't a traitor.

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Post Post #5809  (isolation #391)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:11 am

In post 5807, DrewVa wrote:just a little thing but if TLK does flip scum I think the scum equity of Una goes up a bit. -d


Not following here.

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Post Post #5810  (isolation #392)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:13 am

In post 5800, mcqueen wrote:
In post 5797, Nero Cain wrote:I thought the scenario we were discussing is that scum redirected profii's fruit. There's a second fruit vendor?

after reading profii’s recent posts it seems more likely there be 2 fruits (so a lone 2-shot scum SFV).


Still doesn't explain where Profiis fruit is. Or his modifiers. If he doesn't receive feedback for anything he sends the next logical step is roleblocked or rolestopped.

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Post Post #5818  (isolation #393)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:27 am

That's like saying there's gotta be a cop since someone got cop in the boonus round.

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Post Post #5819  (isolation #394)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:34 am

So the scum wifom to get 2 kills today is the only one that seems plausible to me. The only way a town PR messes with the sticky fruit is if they hard scumread Profii yesterday AFTER he claimed the fruit.

I know I was hard against Profii day 1 and I had no hand in this. Also I think it's fine for scum to go for the 2 for 1 play if one of them was taking heat day 2 so that the situation goes from just losing 1 partner day 3 into taking a townie down with them.

This could also be a scum assumption based on the end of day votecount where they felt they were outed on the Ramcius Lynch, that one would kind of point me to Dave to be frank.

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Post Post #5829  (isolation #395)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:50 am

If there are 2 fruit going around then scum has one and PP outed it by questioning TLK. Which doesn't make sense from Scum!PP.

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Post Post #5844  (isolation #396)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:44 pm

If we aren't resolving the SS claim today then I'm voting Elsa. I'm not super interested in the rest of the PR/modifier hunt that's going on right now.

If you need me, I'll be in the study.

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Post Post #5902  (isolation #397)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:36 pm

In post 5890, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5886, mcqueen wrote:why is RCE null?


keep forgetting why I was townreading him tbh

I think there's probably town somewhere in day 1 but I would have to go back and find it -d

In post 5724, DrewVa wrote:
In post 5719, Xtoxm wrote:drewva whats your scumpool atm


TLK, SS, maybe Elsa?

SS voting 3rd on Ram, doesn’t mitigate that.

I have a better idea who isn’t likely to be scum here, than who is.

I’m currently townreading Nero, you, Creature, Gamma, RCE, Profil, McQueen.

TLK scum means Penguin, town.

@Penguin, what did you try to give to TLK?


Gonna need you two to organize together

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Post Post #5904  (isolation #398)  » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:37 pm

In post 5901, DrewVa wrote:Creature when you say you need Elsa alive is that like a "NEED need" or like a "want need"?

-d

The more he wants it the more I want Elsa

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Post Post #5920  (isolation #399)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:24 am

In post 5918, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 5641, Creature wrote:
In post 5638, UnaBombaH wrote:Creature still didn't confirm hearing a "Quack" last night. :igmeou:

VOTE: Creature

No, I didn't hear anything.
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In post 5646, Creature wrote:Searched all PMs and confessional thread, there was no quack

Nor should there have been.
Unless you sniffed out my play, I'm thinking you might just be town after all.
I'll "quack" again tonight, and maybe the expected result should be different tomorrow? :]


To be fair, this was fairly obvious.

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