Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!
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NahIn post 30, davesaz wrote:Guess what, I'm a miller too.
I wonder if all the roles that would be VT are miller instead?- Nikk
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You mean my random vote on page 1? That's an interesting narrative you are trying to build there, tell me more.In post 315, Kaito Momota wrote:
Hint: You've done both so farIn post 312, Nikk wrote:Hey Maki, a question:
Is it better to vote without reasoning or to provide reasoning without a vote?- Nikk
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Thank you,In post 362, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Hm is the person voting without reasoning have serious reason and just not stating it or is it just a vote without reason?In post 312, Nikk wrote:Hey Maki, a question:
Is it better to vote without reasoning or to provide reasoning without a vote?
I think I go with provide reasoning without a vote. While I see the obvious scum benefit this has waiting for an answer from the person the reasoning is about is also valid.
I will be honest a lot of my gut feeling on you is based on the very early naked vote. As of right now though I have you at slight TL.
Elsa and Clem both strike me as players who drown out quality with quantity. There has been some gameplay there but a lot of meaningless posts as well.
Wisdom is playing a weird game of pushing on Maki and only Maki without laying down a concrete reason. Reading the ISO here reads of aggression mixed with an attempt to lay lie. That combination piques my interest.
VOTE: Wisdom- Nikk
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If I did not understand something here this would be relevant, but as it stands, much like 90% of your play this game, it is not.In post 371, Wisdom wrote:nikk what you dont understand does not equal scum- Nikk
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I closed that sentence with what I felt was weird.In post 377, Frozen Angel wrote:Also nikk
what do you mean wisdom is playing a weird game? Can you classify "weird" and explain what you mean in a more transparent stance? I mean can you explain how is this thing that you're calling weird "scummy"- Nikk
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I'll take part of the blame. I speedread to catch up at times on my 15 min break.In post 394, Frozen Angel wrote:
I think you misunderstood my questionIn post 393, Nikk wrote:
I closed that sentence with what I felt was weird.In post 377, Frozen Angel wrote:Also nikk
what do you mean wisdom is playing a weird game? Can you classify "weird" and explain what you mean in a more transparent stance? I mean can you explain how is this thing that you're calling weird "scummy"
I know I worded it bad
let me phrase it simply: "describe why is he scummy"
Aggression towards one target with no other input into the game, terrible response to being questioned, quiet pusher (one who attempts to lead a town towards a lynch while not being the most vocal in terms of posts towards it).- Nikk
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So you play in a way that is not productive to a well oiled town and by your own admission deal with being called out fairly often, yet you still antagonize over people calling this behavior out.
Do I have this correct?
Also add hiding an actual response behind 'the play voting me is new and as such the reasoning is invalid" to my list of why I feel you are scum.- Nikk
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I never said it was without basis or that pushing is scummy. I was stating it's more for the lack of other input on other avenues.In post 398, Frozen Angel wrote:
giving no input to game doesn't mean their aggression has no basis. Its not like they voted randomly based on how I look their votes. So I wonder why you think thats scummyIn post 395, Nikk wrote:Aggression towards one target with no other input into the game, terrible response to being questioned, quiet pusher (one who attempts to lead a town towards a lynch while not being the most vocal in terms of posts towards it).
I agree about the terrible response after getting pushed
how is being a pusher scummy?- Nikk
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You can do whatever you like but it's not what I am looking for with that question.In post 445, Pink Ball wrote:Can I say my thoughts on Chara?- Nikk
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I gave you a T.I. layup and you went Mambo.In post 447, Pink Ball wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen.In post 446, Nikk wrote: You can do whatever you like
THIS IS MAMBO N°5
DIS A POINTED!- Nikk
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I would rather wait for Wisdom's answer to my follow up.In post 490, Chara wrote:
how are you reading me Nikk?In post 475, Nikk wrote:Why is chara townish? Or would you rather not say?- Nikk
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WisdomIn post 475, Nikk wrote:Why is chara townish? Or would you rather not say?
In case you missed it due to me not tagging you and Clem flooding with noncontent this was directed to you.- Nikk
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Thanks, that's an answer in and of itself.In post 510, Wisdom wrote:no i saw it and ignored it
If you are not scum I feel like Chara is trying to pocket you. Can you see that?- Nikk
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I'll trust your .... Wisdom on thatIn post 515, Wisdom wrote:yeah
Eh? Eh?
Okay but really thanks for answering the questions, I still see you as scum right now but at least we can play a bit.- Nikk
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Here's where I am at now...
1. Wisdom appears to just be this way, and focusing on players who always act suspicious is bad town play
2. IF Maki flips town there is a decent reason to circle back to Wisdom and perhaps even Chara at that time.
3. IF Maki flips scum Elsa Jay is a decent next run.
I don't see us learning as much from flipping Wisdom. It just seems more flimsy then what we learn from a Maki push.
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That would be astronomically bad scum play and they would get caught very quickly.In post 525, Elsa Jay wrote:Nikk, is planning out a lynch order day 1 really a good idea in your eyes? Especially when doing that gives scum an easy out to say "well we got a plan let's follow it".- Nikk
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This your response to my asking for your read.In post 519, Elsa Jay wrote:I feel like mafia informed Maki wouldnt bring up the option of mafia being informed about the millers. Seems stupid to even mention the possibility and fuck over your teammate claiming it.
But now you are saying you are not arguing maki is mafia or not.
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Because being open with thoughts and information at times is helpful to the town. Basing a lynch not just on who is scum but also what town learns from it is helpful. And finally because I never intended it to be a lynch list, more a 'here is what we learn by voting this way vs that'. Giving you a run doesn't mean a quick lynch with no conversation, just means you should be first focus the next day.
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You don't feel Elsa's been arguing fully on the assumption that Maki will flip scum this last page? How are you reading it, would appreciate an outsider opinion.In post 553, Clemency wrote:
reachIn post 550, Nikk wrote:Also I would only do that if Maki flips scum...scum slip?- Nikk
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We get it youIn post 557, Wisdom wrote:i have one scumread and a million dumb readsvapewant us to vote Maki- Nikk
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Then why wouldn't I stay on Wisdom. If Im scum and Im setting him up he's town. He's a much easier mislynch then Maki to make Wisdom look bad to lynch Wisdom.In post 559, Elsa Jay wrote:
My argument literally has nothing to do with that. I point blank told you a townread her. What the hell are you trying to say?In post 555, Nikk wrote:
You don't feel Elsa's been arguing fully on the assumption that Maki will flip scum this last page? How are you reading it, would appreciate an outsider opinion.In post 553, Clemency wrote:
reachIn post 550, Nikk wrote:Also I would only do that if Maki flips scum...scum slip?
I'm arguing your scum here who doesn't care that she flips TOWN. You aren't even focused on me, like you said. You actually want to go after Wisdom and Chara next. Because your scum trying to set up a strike and take 3 townies in 1 go. Throwing shade at me was a bonus.
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Wisdom was at L-1 before I moved my vote off, correct?In post 566, Elsa Jay wrote:Because other then policy lynch, you got jackshit on Wisdom. On Maki your focusing on a previously established suspicion.
Getting Maki flipped town is more advantageous for you to get more out of it.
This is scum 101: using a suspicion made by a good townie on a suspicious townie and drive home the mislynch.
If we can move the votes off of wisdom and onto Nikk it'd be very appreciated.- Nikk
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And well!In post 578, Clemency wrote:
that's what i doIn post 575, Nikk wrote:I get a chuckle out of Clem playing the sidekick to Elsa on every post. Don't even get a scumread on it, it's just a funny mental image.- Nikk
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You'll see no arguments here, although the caps locks and constant periods to show frustration do make the game less fun. But we can chat post game once all is revealed on that.In post 581, Elsa Jay wrote:It's called charisma and personal chemistry.- Nikk
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I legit don't even get what you are driving at here so if it's an insult or whatever it went past me.
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Hey Elsa,
I want to make sure my read is accurate as I obviously messed something up already. On your Maki read...you have a townread due to the post stating that maybe the scum were clued into the miller-fest. You feel no scum would make this post and give out scum info. What pieces do I have wrong here?- Nikk
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That shift key is a power move.In post 592, Elsa Jay wrote:
My entire argument ruined because I put extra periods to enunciate myself and 1 sentence in Capital letters, wowo I must be so evil.In post 588, Nikk wrote:
You'll see no arguments here, although the caps locks and constant periods to show frustration do make the game less fun. But we can chat post game once all is revealed on that.In post 581, Elsa Jay wrote:It's called charisma and personal chemistry.
(I used my shift key on my phone for all of these capital letters, I'll have you know. Caps lock is for the weak.)
Like I said we can chat after. It holds no bearing on the game and would become a distraction. Cool?- Nikk
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Aww Wissy I knew you liked me.In post 597, Wisdom wrote:youre both town- Nikk
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Sigh.In post 601, Elsa Jay wrote:
My experience with Maria suggests that she wouldn't come out first thing to do that as scum, yes.In post 595, Nikk wrote:Hey Elsa,
I want to make sure my read is accurate as I obviously messed something up already. On your Maki read...you have a townread due to the post stating that maybe the scum were clued into the miller-fest. You feel no scum would make this post and give out scum info. What pieces do I have wrong here?
... Should have brought a real gun for a better answer. Le sigh. But good to have that as an option.Wisdom wrote:youre both town
Despite what I want (for you to be scum to make me right) I'm actually getting a dang townlean on you.
Let me read back with the proper 8 to lynch number in mind and see what shakes out.- Nikk
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Hey so...my vote was on Wisdom here not Kaito. Didn't even catch that oversight.In post 453, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Votecount 1.2
Wisdom (4): Maki Harukawa, Kaito Momota, davesaz, Clemency
Maki Harukawa (3): Wisdom, Frozen Angel, Pink Ball
Elsa Jay (2): Alchemist21, sheepsaysmeep
Kaito Momota (2): Nikk, Chara
Frozen Angel (1): Firebringer
Clemency (1): Elsa Jay
Not Voting: Creature, Lady Angel
Deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-14 08:51:00)- Nikk
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Yeah? You have literally no read from it? At all?In post 612, Alchemist21 wrote:I've been reading the whole thing but it's all just noise to me.- Nikk
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I am uncomfortable when we are not about me.In post 686, Elsa Jay wrote:Elsa Jay and Clemency vs Nikk: We sleep.
Frozen Angel vs Creature: We woke.
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