To add on:
Because focusing on negative utility roles is a distraction and is the kind of thing I'd expect scum to be doing if both millers were town
To add on:
Because focusing on negative utility roles is a distraction and is the kind of thing I'd expect scum to be doing if both millers were town
Disagree at the point you said this, I don't think the 2 players after th first 2 (sircakez and ladyangel) would fakeclaim miller there as scumIn post 44, Frozen Angel wrote:first miller claimers are nearly always town. the later the claim happened the less credible it is since mafia will jump in when they see a lot of millers claiming
This is a dumb argument to be making, and comes across as trying too hard to show that you're townIn post 100, Chara wrote:the anti-town aspects of me claiming miller when i did (and i think the reasons for claiming are better than the reasons against, anyway) are only anti-town if i'm town.
Sheep doesn't understand what he's saying, 50% chance to be town isn't "null", that's easily in lynch range, 70% chance to be town isn't really "wolfy"In post 185, Chara wrote:townpoints for sheep for liking my posting and calling the consensus towniest miller "wolfy".
go onIn post 219, Chara wrote:not aligned with Maki, i think.
Sorry but no, you're looking pretty scum rn, you say things like this but you're usually scum when your posting is weak like thisIn post 242, Wisdom wrote:yeah this is scumIn post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
maki has played like 10 games with me and has no excuse to say such bs
We get it - anyone who doesn't agree with your posts is scummyIn post 262, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm interested in this answer too
I actually like Kaito posts less
Hint: You've done both so farIn post 312, Nikk wrote:Hey Maki, a question:
Is it better to vote without reasoning or to provide reasoning without a vote?
ScummyIn post 316, Nikk wrote:You mean my random vote on page 1? That's an interesting narrative you are trying to build there, tell me more.In post 315, Kaito Momota wrote:Hint: You've done both so farIn post 312, Nikk wrote:Hey Maki, a question:
Is it better to vote without reasoning or to provide reasoning without a vote?
This feels like a leading question, I don't appreciate itIn post 409, Chara wrote:Kaito, what's your read on Maki and when did it change?
I honestly don't care enough, sorry if this seems aggressive (it is though)In post 416, Chara wrote:yeah Maki, sorry that wasn't clear.
Kaito: ignoring my questions and dancing around voting me back is a bad look. square up.
In post 416, Chara wrote:yeah Maki, sorry that wasn't clear.
Kaito: ignoring my questions and dancing around voting me back is a bad look. square up.
down boyIn post 424, Firebringer wrote:ohhhIn post 406, Chara wrote:Dunn is Dunnstral, in this game Kaito.
i have no interest in voting Wisdom for being Wisdom. his meta is not that he does more as town, and less as scum. Kaito said it was, but has yet to back it up.
i do think that if he's town he needs to try coming out with more than one read.
is chara town.
Jury still in deliberation but they really liked this.
Here you go, just so you can shut up about it:In post 436, Chara wrote:and also Kaito has been trying to shade me without committing to a vote, and he's on Wisdom for meta he refuses to actually back up.
never mind that he's sort of just refused to interact with me since our one conversation earlier. i think it's because he doesn't want to get into it with me and distract from Wisdom wagon/make Chara vs. Kaito an actual thing.
You're an idiotIn post 766, Alchemist21 wrote:You know I'm looking back at who was on the Maki wagon I don't like Kaito's posts. He threw down votes on Maki and Wisdom no problem but keeps dancing around voting Chara. There's some kind of scum hesitation there.
VOTE: Kaito
I don't think this is true, your experience may vary from mine but I believe it to be the other way around (but only slightly... I don't think it's a big tell)In post 804, Elsa Jay wrote:Has it ever been proven that scum like to tell the vigilante what to do more often then town yet? As an individual, not a town collective vote, I mean.In post 778, Creature wrote:Oh lolIn post 695, Lady Angel wrote:I haven't posted because Elsa/Clem's antics have made me care about this game even less than I usually do day 1, I'd be down to policy lynch at least one if we get nothing else (please, if there's a vig in this game, shoot them).
Still want the Angel that's perhaps a Lady to give her actual opinion on current matters.
Are you going to ever explain this or no?In post 806, Alchemist21 wrote:Hoo boy. Not sure if you genuinely don't know or if you're trying to poke the bear on that one.
[citation needed]Chara wrote:Kaito has played with me a lot. i don't expect him to know every little thing about my meta, but iknowhe's aware of the big things.
i towntell when i heavily engage. i always towntell. he doesn't want to heavily engage with me, and is trying to use humour/his attitude to pretend like he doesn't care enough to. it's just a facade.
the only way Kaito is town here is if he's being so lazy he hasn't actually attempted to read me, but that "not going to be happy until Chara is dead" post pretty much discounts that.
Why would I have to pretend not to care as scum?In post 912, Chara wrote:pretending not to care as scum.
In post 913, Chara wrote:Kaito's still scum, by the way. i just think Lady Angel is also scum. Maki's another candidate for me, but i really want to see her reply to Wisdom (namely to him not buying her Nikk vote) before anything.
At least one scum in this blocIn post 916, Alchemist21 wrote:Deadline’s in 4 days. I could vote Lady if the Kaito wagon doesn’t happen.
In post 670, Frozen Angel wrote:we played after my ban together yet you mention "before my ban" and you don't say anything about my meta - you're just applying a generally standard meta on my playstyle here cause that fits your shading narrative better.
VOTE: Creature
In post 675, Frozen Angel wrote:We played a lot of games together on mu all after my ban. I refuse to believe you're posting here is based on a natural thought process cause it doesn't fit.
pedit: what is missing and why you just changed your story after I voted you and talked about you?
what about me begging for townread as town is new for you?
In post 678, Frozen Angel wrote:You're previous posts were like how you can see scum me begging for being townread now that I revealed your shading you're changing that to a full scumread ay?In post 672, Creature wrote:The reason I'm scumreading you has nothing to do with your mental state.
You claimed you're scum reading me for something that is clearly a part of my personality and everyone who knows me knows that and you should have known that which means its related to my personal state.
Why would creature scum be pushing you instead of anyone else?In post 679, Frozen Angel wrote:This is absolutelyIn post 676, Creature wrote:I dunno whether you would beg to be townread as town too or not, but I find it worth pushing because it's generally scummy.horrendous bullshitand why you're scum. Plus you post it like it was actually what you were considering all along after me mentioning why it makes you scum.
I don't think the case on her goodIn post 945, Chara wrote:my read has nothing to do with that. i have a few things that have me sideeyeing Maki, but i'm waiting for her catchup first.
if you truly think she is incredibly towny (i don't think you are, though) that's cause for at least one raised eyebrow from me.
if Maki isn't caught up soon i'll just talk about the read.
How does that make me scum?In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:The Maki vote was pure bandwagon
How does that make me scum?In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:as was his next vote on Wisdom.
How does that make me scum?In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:Then he defends Maki from Wisdom despite having just voted her.
So? What's your point?In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:and it seemed more brought on by frustration than anything.
How does that make me scum?In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:The wisdom vote also seemed quite random at the end of the iso.
In post 969, Lady Angel wrote:Overall there isn't much to work with here
This is the same reason people were just voting you - it's not a good one, which you said in the same postIn post 969, Lady Angel wrote:and what there is is pinging me enough to suspect him.
preach it hahaIn post 1093, Chara wrote:as for your Kaito read: you don't need to mention him all of the time
Well I think I'm pretty town
In post 87, Kaito Momota wrote:Disagree at the point you said this, I don't think the 2 players after th first 2 (sircakez and ladyangel) would fakeclaim miller there as scumIn post 44, Frozen Angel wrote:first miller claimers are nearly always town. the later the claim happened the less credible it is since mafia will jump in when they see a lot of millers claiming
Chara claiming miller is suspect, especially since at this point claiming miller is akin to outting town power roles
In post 193, Kaito Momota wrote:I mixed up davesaz and sircakez and nobody called me out on it
I see you throwing shade by the wayIn post 1148, Maki Harukawa wrote:Terrible he did the exact same thing in a scum game a bit ago it's not something you should tr him based off ofIn post 1146, Chara wrote:Maki, i've decided to townread Kaito being unhelpful and snarky because he's seemed more logical and careful as scum in a few games, and "rougher" as town.
would you consider that an okay metric or a terrible one?
?????????????In post 825, Pink Ball wrote:Clem because of the way he's shitposting is different of his scum!shitposting. When he's scum he's more self aware of him doing nothing and not providing anything to the thread. Here he doesn't gives a shit and he still has provided reads.
Clemency is straight up omitted from text where he should logically fit in. Elsa messing around all game... by herself? Isn't there another guy there? What?In post 1030, Nikk wrote:This is the scummiest post by far this game and we've had Elsa just messing around half the game. Kaito is a strong scumread.
Like, what is this? More Clemency omission where by all rights the poster should be talking about them. It's some kind of magic.In post 462, davesaz wrote:Elsa Jay might be scum. I had written things off as shitposting, but on review there is a remarkable lack of useful stuff. As in almost as little as Wisdom has.
No joke, this post describing Clem made me move Nikk from nulltown to nullscum in my reads. And then I lookedk through the rest of Nikk's posts again and I'm liking it less and less. This is a scum on scum interaction if I've ever seen one, and even if it isn't it's so detached from reality that it's scummy again, because they're just saying things. Anybody can say things. If you're honestly that bad at reading comprehension/recognizing what's going on then it doesn't really matter what alignment you are anymore, get out of the town before you hurt somebody.In post 1130, Nikk wrote:Clem has a high post count and sometimes has content when he posts.
Both are null atm because neither of those are AI
In post 219, Chara wrote:sheep and FA are town, Alch is probably town that posts things that ping me for scum. Creature's start is good.
Elsa/Kaito can go.
In post 265, davesaz wrote:Maki seems to be solving, Kaito seems to not be solving.
In post 845, Chara wrote:the only way Kaito is town here is if he's being so lazy he hasn't actually attempted to read me
one - though constantly brought upIn post 293, Chara wrote:Kaito, you have to respond to my posts at some point. and don't tell me to quote them when my ISO is twenty posts.
twoIn post 383, Frozen Angel wrote:kaito (there are posts and all are game related but I don't see any engagement or fire)
threeIn post 969, Lady Angel wrote:Overall there isn't much to work with here and what there is is pinging me enough to suspect him.
four - how's that one working out for you by the way?In post 265, davesaz wrote:Maki seems to be solving, Kaito seems to not be solving.
fiveIn post 347, Elsa Jay wrote:Kaito is forgettable.
Is this your meta on him?In post 825, Pink Ball wrote:When he's scum he's more self aware of him doing nothing and not providing anything to the thread. Here he doesn't gives a shit and he still has provided reads.
Hardly anything to get excited about, I wouldn't say this excludes him from being scum. I'm not ignoring anything, all he has is this post, some talk about elsa later, and then he says he likes his reads at one point. At other points people have to prod him for stuff "would you vote x? What do you think of x?" And he's just doing the equivalent of shaking his head yes or no
In post 734, Nikk wrote:No one else jump in please, this question is for Clem and Clem alone.
In post 736, Clemency wrote:can i offer you the lyrics of Sheer Heart Attack by Queen
because it is 7 in the morning and I have not slept and that's the only thing going through my head right now
i need a doctor
In post 737, Clemency wrote:i cant look like a genius prodigy child without being horribly unhealthy
In post 739, Nikk wrote:No. Play the game please.In post 736, Clemency wrote:can i offer you the lyrics of Sheer Heart Attack by Queen
because it is 7 in the morning and I have not slept and that's the only thing going through my head right now
i need a doctor
In post 741, Clemency wrote:yeah my vote is in the right place
In post 742, Nikk wrote:So that's a no for giving a reason then?In post 741, Clemency wrote:yeah my vote is in the right place
In post 743, Clemency wrote:nope
In post 744, Alchemist21 wrote:Shit like this is why I can't take Clemency seriously. Don't complain about being called noise if you're not going to respond to someone's attempts to engage you seriously.
This whole exchange is what you're talking about I'm guessing
oh, do scum have day chat?In post 1208, Clemency wrote:i want you to just go look at that spontaneous flash mob wagon and keep the scumchat in your mind
See you next prodIn post 1208, Clemency wrote:i want you to just go look at that spontaneous flash mob wagon and keep the scumchat in your mind
That's not really a thing on this siteIn post 1216, Pink Ball wrote:I thought that Wisdom could be a N0 cop with a guilty on Maki