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Post Post #1452 (isolation #200) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:01 pm

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what about all these inactive players i don't townread though?

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Post Post #1453 (isolation #201) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:02 pm

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apparently i'm latching onto the cases of inactive players, even though i was the one who started both your wagon and the dunn wagon?

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Post Post #1454 (isolation #202) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:03 pm

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yes i'm clearly voting players at random, and it wasn't because you asked a bunch of mechanics role-fishing questions with literally zero follow-up or actual game content in day 1, and totally not because dunn was playing very cagey and doing lots of lurking

wow such random voting imo
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #203) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:05 pm

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oh and my townreads and scumreads quite clearly don't have much to do with activity...at all?

you keep on fighting the good fight. claimed PR tunneling on town, very gud
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #204) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:07 pm

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maybe you should take a look at the people who're flip-flopping between sheeping your sentiments and my sentiments - because you keep wanting to lynch me or mala (who i townread) and i wanted to lynch you and dunn. you are claimed PR, dunn flipped town

so where do you think scum are going to be when a very vocal town player (me) and a claimed PR (you) are both pushing multiple town wagons

hint: they're probably sheeping you/me
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #205) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:08 pm

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take a look at the wagon compositions of yesterday and today, and then look at my lynchpool - there's a pattern there, and it's the one you should also be following
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Post Post #1503 (isolation #206) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:48 pm

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that's a bad assumption but i'm pretty sure you're correct and that thor is scum
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #207) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:55 pm

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@mod did Persivul get an N0 peek?
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #208) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:01 pm

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i wonder why persivul died honestly

his main scumreads were leodanny, lamees and DVa slot, thor was kind of an afterthought
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #209) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 1510, Something_Smart wrote:UNVOTE:
I don't see what Creature sees but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #210) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:26 pm

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that must be a really strong creature TR you have there
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #211) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:25 pm

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probably just means VT
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #212) » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:26 pm

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In post 1536, Malakitty wrote:He’s having a conversation with Auro and it doesn’t even appear to be going anywhere and feels like noise.
ok but isn't this how thor always sounds?
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #213) » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 1558, Nako wrote:VOTE: Egix96
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no
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #214) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:50 pm

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shouldn't you be voting auro at this point
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #215) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:50 pm

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i think we should lynch thor and auro true facts
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #216) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:51 pm

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at least it will make the game 132.7% more readable and fun
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Post Post #1583 (isolation #217) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:14 pm

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wow auro says lots of words but is on all the town wagons, must be town amirite

i legitimately can't tell if you're both scum together or not at this point. it seems unlikely but we're pre-flip and logic dictates that scum are gonna be in you/auro/S_S and if that isn't the team, i'm confident in my townreads of creature/mala/egix - so i'm okay with lynching my scumpool and then just PoE'ing the rest

my issue here is that i don't want to lynch the people you want to lynch, which is me/mala it seems? i'm town, mala is my 2nd best townread (after creature who if he's scum he just won at this stage) and i'm having a real hard time with 3 lower activity slots.

so here's where i'm at right now:

- creature i'm 99% sure is town
- mala + egix are both strong townreads for me

i'm happy to vote outside of you, but i'm not doing that for the two other proposed wagons right now: mala/egix - like, fuck no.

another issue is, the claimed PR again has basically 2 scumreads in the entire game: me, and another one of my strong townreads (mala). it's causing a lot of problems in actually getting momentum in good places. so here's what i want: if we change wagon, it's not me, egix, or mala. if you don't want auro/SS - who do you want?
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #218) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:26 pm

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this is why we can't have nice things
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #219) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:30 pm

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what if...mala is just town and scum were the ones sheeping town sentiments

wow amazing idea right
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #220) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:36 pm

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Nako, Leodanny, DarklightA

i guess we aren't lynching lamees although the fact scum know what town has and can therefore claim without any CC possible and also the way she claimed gives me paranoia idk, probably just town
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #221) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:38 pm

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okay, because this game is just not working

creature, egix, mala - can the four of us just work to get on the same wagon
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #222) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:40 pm

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eh yeah ok, i thought deadline was closer but it's almost 3.5 IRL days
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #223) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:41 pm

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the fact that i have at least a dozen games played with creature and more spectated

if he is scum he's just better than me
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #224) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:17 pm

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wagons

you've all been on all the bad wagons. unless mala is scum (i doubt it) then yeah, i'm pretty sure you're just scum hopping on the easy wagons
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #225) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:26 pm

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Malakitty (L-3)
: Thor665, Auro, Nako
Thor665 (L-3)
: rb, Malakitty, Creature
DarkLightA (L-5)
: Lamees
Leodanny, DarkLightA, Something_Smart,
Egix96
are you on drugs
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Post Post #1602 (isolation #226) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:41 pm

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Day1 wagons

also you were on mala's wagon, but hey good job phrasing it as if there's not a big difference between me starting wagons and you just hopping on them advantageously?
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #227) » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:41 pm

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VOTE: auro
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #228) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:41 am

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In post 1605, Auro wrote:
In post 1602, rb wrote:Day1 wagons

also you were on mala's wagon, but hey good job phrasing it as if there's not a big difference between me starting wagons and you just hopping on them advantageously?
Both the latter I stated were D1 wagons.
I still want Mala lynched.

So your case is - "Whenever Auro starts/is on a wagon that I'm not on, he's scum because BAD WAGONS, and if he's on a wagon I was on he's scum because it's opportunistic!".

:lol:
what is this dumb shit for real

yes, you being on the tail end of what i think are 4 separate town wagons is opportunistic. there's a big diff between someone making pushes and someone who is simply saying a lot of words, yet making all bad votes

this misrep is disgusting

can we just lynch the wallposting scum already tia
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #229) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:44 am

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Egix who are your scumreads

you need to have a vote in play, this is beyond fucking ridiculous that four people are not voting

if you are town, put your vote in play even if it's just random idc

every vote you put down dilutes overall scum influence on voting and we are FAST heading towards a repeat of day1. considering the low activity of the game we need to consolidate on who we want lynched sooner rather than later
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #230) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:46 am

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VOTE: Thor

if it's between mala and thor i choose this
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #231) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 1631, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1630, rb wrote:you need to have a vote in play, this is beyond fucking ridiculous that four people are not voting
We also have two vacant slots... the only purpose of a vote would be to contribute to a lynch and I don't want a lynch to happen right now.
no it means we get actual wagons with size as opposed to shitty wagons that have more chance of ending in a panic lynch at EOD.
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #232) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:49 am

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well because we have multiple low activity slots and the chances that its anyone else are slim, given that most of the game is either split on who they scum/townread
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #233) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 1635, Malakitty wrote:I honestly don’t see why people don’t want to flip one of Auro and thor
because one is probably scum
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #234) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:49 am

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im actually leaning auro at this stage
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #235) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 1635, Malakitty wrote:I honestly don’t see why people don’t want to flip one of Auro and thor
wait didnt you scumread thor?


and yeah my wanting to flip them is just bc i scumread both not really 'SvS or SvT' whatever
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #236) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:52 am

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question S_S: are you ok with a mala lynch?

who DO you want lynched?
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Post Post #1642 (isolation #237) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:54 am

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also you literally said like 3 posts ago that you think Thor is scum

yet you are letting a mala (no opinion) wagon compete with it?
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #238) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:09 pm

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so auro is scum
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #239) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:12 pm

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hello town

let's switch wagon to auro

sincerely: me
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Post Post #1652 (isolation #240) » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:41 pm

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sigh, whatever

enjoy losing i guess?
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Post Post #1663 (isolation #241) » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:07 am

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the only thing that actually matters is her alignment

i think shes town but if i thought she was scum id vote her regardless of having the flu or not? i dont see how that factors in at all

however, it does seem ultra sketchy that someone with actual good reasons to be low activity, who's been fine when actually active means i want to lynch the people who want to lynch mala more than anything else really
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #242) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:29 am

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what do you think of your predecessor's claim?
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #243) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:54 am

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it was a test

you didn't fail :(
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #244) » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:45 pm

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im ok with bbmolla slot for now

succint is reading even less than i do

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Post Post #1735 (isolation #245) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:04 am

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lol
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Post Post #1736 (isolation #246) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:05 am

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lamees can you unvote auro so i can vote auro

i don't trust any wagon you're on

everyone else vote auro but lamees go back to thor imo :^)
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #247) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:06 am

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jokes aside i think we should make the competing wagons thor + auro but i don't want to start derailing a wagon close to deadline in an inactive game and give potential for an even worse lynch
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #248) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:07 am

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moreover, lamees seems like she doesn't want to be on any wagon that ends up being a lynch. i can't figure out why she suddenly doesn't want to lynch mala?

so many question
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #249) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:31 am

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wait why is auro unvoting ew
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #250) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:32 am

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wait auro is 2nd on the mala wagon

what

sigh
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #251) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:33 am

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its 330am im going to bed 2 tired4read
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #252) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:27 pm

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vote [1] Thor
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Post Post #1756 (isolation #253) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:40 am

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i could lynch nako at this point too
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #254) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:40 am

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actually maybe they're town
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #255) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:41 am

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something about their nonchalance makes me think they might be town

their votes are trash though
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #256) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:42 am

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In post 1558, Nako wrote:VOTE: Egix96
In post 1584, Nako wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
Wagon on Dunn yesterday was scum motivated. It appeared when we tried to lynch Mala.
In post 1668, Nako wrote:VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.
literally voted my 3 townreads

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Post Post #1764 (isolation #257) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:19 am

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it takes two to wallpost
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #258) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:14 am

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In post 2, MiniDeathStar wrote:
  1. The village randomly start with 5-9 ascension points. The undead start with the
    same number minus three.
  2. The village are then randomly assigned roles whose combined worth equals their
    ascension points.
    Each role has a fixed chance to appear and can do so more than
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just sayin'
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #259) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:51 pm

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In post 1799, BBmolla wrote:Can we please be smart and just ignore my soft claim like you’re supposed to do until I actually claim
silly molla, that's what good players do

do you see any of those around here?
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #260) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:29 pm

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In post 1810, Malakitty wrote:Tbh

I feel like I’m losing brain cells with this game.

That’s legit how non fun this one is.

Apparently no one understands how Molla plays.

The guy jokes a lot. That’s his personality.

Now everyone is on him for a claim From a fucking joke
ya, and two hours from deadline we have multiple non-voters/ego-wagons
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #261) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:31 pm

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if you're not voting either mala or thor before deadline you're scumclaiming and getting lynched tomorrow

if we end this day on a no-lynch, this stupid dead crawl will continue into day3
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #262) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:31 pm

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stfu and vote dumbass
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #263) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:37 pm

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In post 1816, Auro wrote:@rb: I'm already on Mala, WTH are you on about?
switch to thor, thanks

mala is l-3, we have less than 2 hours left until deadline

thor is l-2

you have multiple times expressed concern over the thor slot - a lynch on thor should be preferable to a very likely no lynch to you?
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #264) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:37 pm

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yeah honestly my preferred lynch is auro, he's been absolutely trash for all of day2 but this game has been so stagnant it just isn't happening
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #265) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:45 pm

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then again

i wonder if it's better to lynch from the people on pointless vanity wagons/not even voting so that things can actually get done
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #266) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:47 pm

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In post 1825, Auro wrote:Nope, I said I'm towning Thor. I don't think he gets to near lynch *5* days before the deadline with no counterwagon, and it's pretty lame for his buddies to blindly bus him with that much time remaining and loads of scummy slots.
never mind auro back to the scumpile

5 days before deadline, with a deadline extension, is literally like
AN ENTIRE WEEK OF PLAY
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #267) » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:48 pm

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"wow i can't believe scum would get near lynch after an entire week"

oml someone shoot me
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #268) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:27 am

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that

isn't

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scumslip
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #269) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:28 am

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anyway i gotta get up in like 7 hours so i'll come tell you why we aren't lynching bbmolla tomorrow night
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #270) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:10 pm

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bbmolla isn't scum smh
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #271) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:17 pm

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garbage tier NK analysis
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #272) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:18 pm

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until we have a scumflip let's not wifom ourselves into oblivion

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Post Post #1864 (isolation #273) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:52 pm

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VOTE: Thor
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Post Post #1865 (isolation #274) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:53 pm

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but actually wanna lynch auro
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #275) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 1856, Succinct wrote:
In post 1850, Nako wrote:Let's all agree that I spewed town with that nightkill.
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VOTE: Lamees
lol this vote

as bad as lamees is playing, they aren't scum

would have been a godlike D1 policy lynch to conftown me but I don't think it's worth it anymore
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #276) » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:58 pm

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how about day3 ends the way day2 was supposed to end

with a thor lynch

wow so true imo
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #277) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:44 am

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yes they might be a troll but are they scum
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #278) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 am

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but is it probable
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #279) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:51 pm

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ill lynch thor, or one of the D3 vanity voters
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #280) » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:51 pm

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good strategy yes
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #281) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:44 pm

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if lamees was scum im fairly sure another PR would have claimed by today
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #282) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:11 pm

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it would mean the town has 7 ascension points

i guess it's possible it had the minimum (5) and that the only two PR's were a cop+JOAT

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Post Post #1909 (isolation #283) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:11 pm

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the game would certainly make A LOT more sense if lamees was scum
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #284) » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:15 pm

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however, assuming the minimum ascension points (5) as opposed to the other 4 possibilities (6,7,8,9) is going with the 20% odds rather than the 80%

if the town had any number of ascension points (6-9) then we could realistically have another PR counter-claim lamees, but we also have room for another PR in the points range too. i think we shelve it for today, but tomorrow we should massclaim
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #285) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:27 pm

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lol

can we just vote thor
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #286) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:29 pm

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like for real we should have lynched thor yesterday and this game is now stuck because we aren't. lamees is a terrible lynch because their slot will be 100% sorted by a massclaim.

if we aren't doing thor, then nako/auro/succint.
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #287) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:30 pm

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i really fail to see how lynching a slot that will be completely sorted is a good idea
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #288) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:31 pm

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oh wait, that's because it's not a good idea
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #289) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:34 pm

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it's a terrible idea

and lamees is also making town posts today, even if they're absurd they're town motivated
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #290) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:47 pm

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wow this is a really long day2
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #291) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:29 pm

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ya i thought the same but it only kills scum not town
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #292) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:28 pm

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you both suck

discussion over
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #293) » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 pm

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i normally hate compromising but, pick from

thor, auro, succint, nako

who is the scummiest and who will you vote
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #294) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:28 am

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In post 1943, Auro wrote:Interesting how RB is trying to control and direct votes away from Mala.
wow i dont want to vote one of my townreads what a shocking development
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #295) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:30 am

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also considering we just no lynched for day2, why are you conplaining about the player actually moving the game along?
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #296) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:31 am

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in fact, how the fk is the thing you most want to contribute in this deadass game, towards a player who you have been apparently townreading (me), right after a day of nolynch, to throw doubt over what my intentions are for wanting to consolidate and actually lynch someone from my PoE pool

lmao holy shit
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #297) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:05 pm

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actually i will lynch lamees if they pinky promise to shoot auro

i want him lynched, no one will lynch him. if he is conftown we actually can win, and if he's scum he ded
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #298) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:22 pm

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huh and?
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #299) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:23 pm

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oh wtf it doesnt kill immortal
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #300) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:26 pm

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k scratch that, not lynching lamees
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #301) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:27 pm

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In post 1977, Lamees wrote:
In post 1972, Auro wrote:I'm not hammering a townread, and it looks *obvious* to me how the scumteam is pushing for lynches and setting up future mislynches.

Lamees, you scumread Mala and RB, right? What does that say about their Thor push?
This is not a joke, I scum read everyone. I tried and I cannot put together a decent case on anyone as to why they're town.

So right now I need more info. I can work with a thor lynch, or anyone else's lynch. But no lynch again would be the final nail in the coffin.
learning how to find town is almost more important than knowing how to find scum
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #302) » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:13 pm

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i just read it as godfather, didn't realise it was vengeful immune
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #303) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:02 pm

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day2 was a no-lynch but we're vote happy

makes sense
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #304) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:09 pm

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In post 1989, Nako wrote:SS is scum.
In post 1999, Nako wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
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Post Post #2010 (isolation #305) » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:47 pm

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VOTE: Nako

if we're gonna end up lynching Mala instead of thor, this is better
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #306) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:52 pm

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better than a nolynch
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #307) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:53 pm

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what are good lynches to you
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #308) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 pm

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can somebody please tell me why mala is scum other than "inactivity"

because 60% of this game is inactive and of all of them she's doing the most actual solving
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #309) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:29 pm

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PSA: 24 hours until we lynch someone
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #310) » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:29 pm

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we kind of need to be consolidated on a wagon(s) asap rather than letting this drag on
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #311) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:05 pm

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sigh

ill hammer before deadline if needed but this is a shit wagon
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #312) » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:57 pm

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yeah this sux
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #313) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:25 pm

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do whatever

i actually fucked up, because of the nolynch i thought we weren't in lylo so claiming today would still leave 2 days to sort the claim...but we're in mylo

so, i'm a dumbass and i don't think we can trust massclaim anyway. there's a best case scenario but i won't say what it is until after claims are done
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Post Post #2140 (isolation #314) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:32 pm

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i have thoughts but i'm too tired

can we hold off on votes until im not tired thx

succint's vote is awful and if it comes down to lamees or succinct we should lynch succinct, even though i don't prefer either of them as the lynch
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #315) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:42 pm

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in fact i think we should realistically just decide if succinct is scum, because with their vote down, if they're town - we can't lynch anyone except lamees unless scum bus for some reason in mylo
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #316) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:32 pm

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that's my point

if he's town, we've already lost if you're also town
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Post Post #2144 (isolation #317) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:33 pm

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so we should assess whether he's town and we should convince him to change his vote

OR whether he's just scum and we try to lynch succint - because if he's scum, we can lynch him with 5 town players

nom sayin?
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #318) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:54 am

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i like no lynch in mylo with 1 scum for sure and maybe 2, but 3 scum is diluting towm vote power even more
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #319) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:55 am

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lol i really dont think this is the way to go
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #320) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:27 pm

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Lamees (L-4)
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Auro, Nako, rb, Egix96, Something_Smart,
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Post Post #2185 (isolation #321) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:28 pm

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if everyone else claims VT i don't see a need to disbelieve egix's claim, other than the fact he really didn't play like someone trying to draw an NK at all
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Post Post #2186 (isolation #322) » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:29 pm

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has everyone claimed?
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Post Post #2208 (isolation #323) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:14 pm

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so what are the odds that nako + succint + thor/ruby are all town along with mala?

my solve is currently nako/succint/ruby or auro

thoughts?
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #324) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:18 pm

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i think the way wagons have been stalling out mean that we have scum stalling out the game and/or that the competing wagons were actually on scum
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #325) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:19 pm

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paranoia over lamees slot is ridiculous at this point
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #326) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:20 pm

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i think SS has had pro-town moments, and that his lurking is a very different brand of lurking to nako/succint
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Post Post #2213 (isolation #327) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:23 pm

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for real if we were going to test the lamees slot, it was meant to happen before mylo. the fact that it occurs _NOW_ just reeks of scum to me. they claimed on day1. we are now on day4, if we didn't lynch them on day1 (or 2) why the fuck is the game still hungup on it.

moreover, people asserting lamees scum are not doing it at a point where it makes like...any fucking sense, nor are they making any real effort to push them. the paranoia is faked, and a way to avoid actually playing the game and giving reads and opinions on the actual main wagons that have been in the game. it reeks of scum being avoidant of the main wagons.

like does anyone actually know what succinct's opinions on this game are, anywhere beyond "i think we should lynch from player X Y Z"? zero opinions on main wagons and going ons in the game. this is what scum do.
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Post Post #2215 (isolation #328) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:35 pm

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In post 917, Nako wrote:
In post 431, Egix96 wrote:Okay, I've just had a quick skim through everything that happened since the last time I was here, which was about 24 hours ago.
Does anyone else think that rb's most recent posts (from about #339 onward) are very scummy in tone? Apart from the supposed scumslip, that is?
Maybe I'm getting hardcore pocketed by Lamees here, but in all honesty I would much rather lynch rb today.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: rb
VOTE: Egix96
In post 1007, Nako wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
I think Egix is probably scum here so I will vote the wagon that he is not on.
In post 1476, Nako wrote:VOTE: Thor665
1 scum between Thor and rb.
Hopefully, Creature is town.
Lamees did not die so she is also a scum?
In post 1558, Nako wrote:VOTE: Egix96
In post 1584, Nako wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
Wagon on Dunn yesterday was scum motivated. It appeared when we tried to lynch Mala.
In post 1668, Nako wrote:VOTE: Creature
He got a prod.
In post 1921, Nako wrote:VOTE: Lamees
Ok.
In post 1999, Nako wrote:VOTE: Malakitty
CFD
i also want to bring attention to this voting pattern

very bad
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #329) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:35 pm

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not just voting town, but _vanity_ voting town
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #330) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:36 pm

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actually if nako flips scum i think ruby is town
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #331) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:37 pm

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i'd want to lynch auro if only succinct wasn't so willing to do it.

honestly i don't think i wanna touch any slot that nako has been scumreading at this point, or succinct.
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #332) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:38 pm

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also the reason i believe that scum are in the inactive players is because of the sheer inactivity in this game - when town players are the lurkers in my experience, there's generally moments where they shift and get into gear to actually coordinate on a lynch.

there have been some inactive town, and as a result there's been inactive scum lumped into the same pool of false equivalency, which is why we've all game been fighting to actually get ANYTHING at all done, and i find it really hard to believe that we just have a stagnant game where 5-6 all town players are just sitting around lurking. if there's active scum, it's the thor or auro slot, and while i agree with lamees that their interactions are not outside either of their scum ranges, i do believe that it's very unlikely they do such a thing when already winning and neither slot was really at any fear of lynch (they came to that well and truly _after_ they had their arguments, not before)

so we're left with the possibility that 1/2 of these are scum, and the potential that they might actually both be town.

so my preference is to lynch from nako/succint first. if nako is scum, i think SS has a better chance of being scum. i think it's slim to nil chance that succint + SS are scum together. one thing that makes me want to go for nako is that honestly...he's a viable scum partner to almost anyone in the game?
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #333) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:38 pm

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and if we literally had 6 inactive townies well, fuck this game
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Post Post #2222 (isolation #334) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:18 pm

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why would bussing happen in this scenario

and why is nako town to you
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #335) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:45 pm

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Lamees (L-4)
: Succinct
Auro, Nako, rb, Egix96, Something_Smart,
Ruby Red, Lamees
tbh there's 3 scum left alive and it seems absurd to keep giving people a pass for bad town
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #336) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:45 pm

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at what point does bad town become "oh wait they're actually just scum"

nako doesn't even come across as naive
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #337) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:49 pm

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they're lurking and voting only on wagons that are unlikely to lead to lynches or draw attention...

this is what lurkerscum actually looks like

S_S is actually thinking about the game
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #338) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:35 pm

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i want consensus as much as possible

lamees, please don't just sheep me. i want people's thoughts. mala is town, who are the scum on her wagon, if any?

there's people who offered very little actual opinion on her, but were part of her lynch. as i see it, people who hide from giving any kind of indication what they think, yet end up on multiple town wagons anyway, are likely to be scum? agreed or not? give me an opinion.

auro clearly prefers succinct over nako, but the issue is that his solve is succinct/me/S_S

i find that solve totally ridiculous. not to mention that in he has Nako as 50/50, but is now defending her. i think it's nako/succinct/auro

ruby, which of these will you compromise on?
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #339) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:35 pm

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everyone: pick your preferred lynch: auro/nako/succinct
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #340) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:37 pm

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or, offer me something - who else is scum?

i can't take lamees as a scumread seriously given her claim works and her last couple of days play
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #341) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:54 pm

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reads not changing over time and with new information is also a concern tbh
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #342) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:58 pm

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ruby/SS (have to admit that it's possible) if succinct isn't scum
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Post Post #2242 (isolation #343) » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 2240, Lamees wrote:Wow so true imo
wow so true imo
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #344) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:01 am

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i mean, i actually townread him and his claim fits. i find it really hard to believe i could be that wrong about a townread + he ends up claiming?
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #345) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:04 am

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honestly i just wanted to have egix/creature/mala townblock so we could actually get momentum going earlier but yeah, didn't happen

i really have issues with the way the town has played this game, being so disparate and insistent on individualism that trying to solve this game is like trying to figure out which of the vanity wagons are dumb and which are scum. it's kind of absurd because at no point have we actually had good momentum for wagoning scum.

ptsd from dunn lynch maybe? idk, but if anything the fact we hit a PR on day1, a PR died night1 AND we had a claimed PR should have meant we stopped fucking worrying about hitting a PR because...3 of them are were outed? anyway multiple players have said it already and i won't belabour the point (until post game)
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #346) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:40 am

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how are you trying to sort nako tho
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #347) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:42 am

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i think that

nako/red/SS is also viable

but i'm not scumreading there
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #348) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:44 am

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that's a fair point actually and i didn't really notice that.
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #349) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:45 am

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okay, so

you want nako/auro + red/egix?
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #350) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:51 am

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In post 2257, Auro wrote:He was willing to lynch me because I'm town and it's a mislynch. Your argument for him being town relies on me being scum, and me being scum that I'm in your PoE where he's town.

Circular Logic, Lamees. He was siding with them ON lynching me, which is circular again, and YOU were his top scumread both times. If I'm town OF COURSE it'd make sense for him to be scum.
so what you're saying is...you and succinct are probably both scum and you're bussing? :D
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #351) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:02 pm

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In post 2303, Succinct wrote:I changed my mind.
Auro-Lamees interactions aren't scum theater; my Auto/SS/Lamees solve's thus wrong.
VOTE: Something_Smart

Egix96
> Ruby Red > Nako > Auro
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Please allow me 24h to explain changes.
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Post Post #2308 (isolation #352) » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:37 pm

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VOTE: Succinct

time to make open 743 great again
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #353) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:26 am

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ah, so now the reason the scum killed the people who are actually supporting me but not actually me becomes apparent

cool wifom and stuff, i guess?

BBmolla kill = frame lamees + throw shade on why i'm not dead

first thing you do out of the gate: vote lamees and say you're willing to vote out of lamees + auro + SS

next thing you do: complain that i'm still alive

top scumreads for you: lamees+rb

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Post Post #2314 (isolation #354) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:30 am

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but yeah why would i shoot persivul when he was one of the players who townread me when i _wasn't_ highly townread?

then creature who was also one of the few people supporting me?

then BBmolla who again, is one of the people supporting me?

the last two people were also agreeing to vote in the same places that i was voting: so assuming that i was scum, they'd pose no threat to my scumbuddies, or myself - and are people actually voting in my best interests

you have no actual case on me, apart from last minute wifom. cool dood
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Post Post #2315 (isolation #355) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:34 am

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In post 2311, Succinct wrote:rb also carries some burden of proficiency; he's a competent player, yet has contributed significantly to at least one almost assured mislynch and helped lynch other town as well.
lol, this is cute

funny how the burden of proficiency is relevant when i say to stop braindead tunneling lamees, to stop vanity voting so that we don't end up with a shit wagon and/or a nolynch at end of day, at multiple points where you were actual townreading me

did you listen then? nope.

but suddenly i have a burden of proficiency. okay, that's cool and all, but if your interpretation of me is competent, then why would you NOT FUCKING LISTEN TO WHAT I WAS SAYING when you ALSO TOWNREAD ME

this is scum and we should kill it with fire
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Post Post #2316 (isolation #356) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:36 am

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"hey guys i townread this player who i also think is competent

but i won't actually listen to or try to do the things that this competent player i townread says to do because...reasons..."
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #357) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:37 am

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i feel 187% good about a succinct lynch.
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Post Post #2339 (isolation #358) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:13 am

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In post 2336, Egix96 wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10684877#p10684877]post 2335[/url], Egix96 wrote:Excuse me, what the f*** is going on with this votecount?
Lemme just apologise if that sounded a bit rude, it wasn't directed at the mod :oops:

But in all seriousness I am concerned that the votes are being all spread around like that... it's not a good sign!
this has been the entire game and you say this now..
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #359) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:13 am

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lamees a 3scum mylo is not when you go for nolynch
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #360) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:15 am

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egix, preferred lynches?
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Post Post #2342 (isolation #361) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:17 am

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In post 2320, Something_Smart wrote:I think Succinct is guilty of the same thing he was accusing Auro of. He came in saying he was definitely willing to vote Auro, but now that other people have expressed a willingness to lynch Auro, he's changed his tune.
nako/succint/auro

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egix wont do auro tho, and im very sure he's town so we need to do nako or succinct
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #362) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 2343, Egix96 wrote:
In post 2339, rb wrote:this has been the entire game and you say this now..
Yes, but now that we're in MyLo, I find it particularly bad.
The MyLo in that game I recently played on MU didn't have the votes spread out as much as this...
In post 2341, rb wrote:egix, preferred lynches?
I'm willing to vote either Succinct or you.

The reason why I'm not convinced that you're town is because of this:
In post 2185, rb wrote:if everyone else claims VT i don't see a need to disbelieve egix's claim, other than the fact
he really didn't play like someone trying to draw an NK at all
Bolded bit implies a scum mindset IMO, I don't think that town!you would be interested in whether people were trying to bait NKs or not.
twist words much?

i said this after you claimed commuter, because duh, you'd generally expect a commuter would be playing aggressively. so when someone claims commuter, their play is relevant to the believability od the claim

it's a retroactive thought about your claim

also, you're willing too vote me or succinct...are you serious? succinct and i are a likely team in your eyes?
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Post Post #2347 (isolation #363) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:18 am

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i think this is actually the worst town ive ever played with in any game
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Post Post #2348 (isolation #364) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 2344, Lamees wrote:We have 2 dead players so not like we can get a lynch.
nako is scum, who is the other person you consider dead?
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Post Post #2351 (isolation #365) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:07 pm

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In post 2349, Lamees wrote:Nako and red are dead, as in inactive.
yeah i get you meant inactive

that's true, i think red is probably town at this point
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Post Post #2354 (isolation #366) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:03 pm

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i mean, the day still has quite a while so i don't see why you'd assume ruby would never turn up again
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #367) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:39 pm

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i also am townreading you, just btw if that isnt cleae
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Post Post #2358 (isolation #368) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:41 pm

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my comment was not "egix is likely scum because X"

but i was surprised to see you claim that, but in retrospect thats even more likely you're town
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Post Post #2367 (isolation #369) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:27 am

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honestly this flavour is the best thing since ever

minideathstar best mod since ever
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Post Post #2369 (isolation #370) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 am

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gg all
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #371) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:31 am

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my only criticism of MDS modding is that the vote counts embedded into other user's posts makes it hard to just ISO her for a full record of votes and i had to flick page to page to try and make (or fake) analysis of them

but they have other uses which are good, like not having to ISO the mod to get an up to date count

did i mention minideathstar best mod since ever
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Post Post #2389 (isolation #372) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:38 pm

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yeah i was okay bussing auro at the end but i decided against it

funnily enough i was planning to not have to be all that active and on day2 i wanted to just mega cross-bus each other after the two investigatives died, so i could either lose it and be out of the game, or just coast on towncred until later

instead ended up having to be one of the most active players for the entire game

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Post Post #2390 (isolation #373) » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:39 pm

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also yes, succinct scumreading lamees/SS/auro made the game veryhard
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