Mini 2052: Downtown Train Mafia - Game Over!

[TheGoldenParadox]

So I've played with brass, nsg, robert, and jay (i think, if that is a troll like I think it is)
VOTE: Amor
What's Final Fantasy?

[TheGoldenParadox]

*quick google search*
Oh.

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: brass

because obvscum trying to pretend maths is hard.

UNVOTE: brass

because ff8 is my second favorite ff

Why can't you even place a vote?

i can already tell this i'm going to struggle this game given my relative unfamiliarity with the playerlist.

@dva and auro

, i would appreciate both/either of you being active and helping me out this game, if you're town.

oops, thought i had responded to this earlier.

Unfamiliar shouldn't be an auto struggle. Just new experiences and new people and perspectives to see.

well, that's true – it's just that i'm somewhat confident that a playerlist having experience with each other is a massive benefit for town (and i think that that could be proven somehow, although i wouldn't know how). at the very least, i obviously find it a lot easier to sort players who i've played with before, and it's usually easier for me as well when other players can sort me as town easily.

Tbh Allomancer's reaction to the wagon on him sounds pretty towny.

~Auro

you think so? i'm pretty null on it, really.

I don't like this very much, part of the challenge of mafia is to read people you haven't played with. NAI, but eh.

I'm going to sustain my vote on Amor - I'm getting a light scummy trace from their posts, especially 55 - just giving me a bad taste in my mouth. Hoever,

FoS

Jay for 62 because that is an overreaction.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I don't like this very much, part of the challenge of mafia is to read people you haven't played with. NAI, but eh.

you don't like the fact that i would like it if the game was easier to solve?

what is "but eh" supposed to mean?

Of course it'd be better if the game was easier to solve, but complaining that you're going to struggle with this game given your unfamiliarity with the playerlist just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It is mostly NAI, and not enough to get a scumread on, but just wanted to put that out there.

TGP, amor has 5 posts and very little content. What's scummy in there outside of 55?

Nothing much - that's why the read is light. We're on page five, everyone has a few posts and very little content.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Because he's scum trying to pretend like he's not trying to wagon. I did that in my first game as scum. Classic scum tell.

My account is older than the website, this is clearly not my first game

as scum.

How is your account older than the website?
Why the last part?

Where did the Allomancer push go.

Why was it a thing in the first place?

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: Robert2424

Don't post if you're not going to contribute to the game. Most of your posts are unproductive.

With all due respect, most of our posts are unproductive. It's still pretty much RVS.

[TheGoldenParadox]

You assume I'm playing Mafia, when in reality I'm playing connect 4.

You assume my actions mean something day 1.

You assume I even read your post just now.

Stop.
Please, stop.
This game is hard enough without you making it harder.

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: Bambi Jay

L-1. Bambi please try to read the game and examine.

If this slot is scum, great. If it's not, it's a policy lynch that really needs to happen. Bad posts, bad reactions, terrible for town if town. This slot needs to be lynched.

[TheGoldenParadox]

The fact people keep bringing up a vote I did for shits and giggles as an accusation for bussing is... How do I describe this properly?

Oh yeah. Stupid as all hell. Also known as SAAH. Believe me, I thought it was a rockband as well.

The fact that everything you are doing this game is shits and giggles is... How do I describe this properly?

Oh yeah. Stupid as all hell. Also known as SAAH. Believe me, I thought it was a rockband as well.

[TheGoldenParadox]

You boyos are fasto.

Bambi Jay is pleased.

Good. Elsa is a Thot anyway. Liking me more is merely like accepting water is wet, or the grass is green.

The concrete jungle merely is you denying nature. Such a shame. Why did you get on this cruise train if you didn't want to enjoy the scenery? Seems like you WANTED to get mugged. Or be the robber instead. Either or.

Yeah I'm apart of them with Elsa and Clem. What about it?

Ego

We don't allow those with big Egos on this train. That's a sign of one of the thieves!

VOTE: Auro

Okay, whatever. This is random RVS crap, nobody cares. Everybody does this.

I want to be the person who comes first alphabetically, so I'm gonna vote Allomancsr today and Amor tommorow to get that coveted slot.

VOTE: Allomancer

Then pulls this.

Only 2 more votes and then we can wagon Bambi for bussing.

This is a train, Moron. Not a bus.

VOTE: Bambi

L-2 by page 2, surely the worst offense we can trump up by page 3.

Boo to the mod, for forcing me to change my board theme due to pink text.
Boo to the site for not making mafSepia default.

First point: your power means nothing here. I know the truth.

Second point: Maf!Sepia is still good as long as you change the brightness on your screen to read lighter colors.

Unvote, Vote Bambi

Not responding to the L-2 part of the post seems like trying to extend the joke period.

I did respond to the L-2 part by saying it didnt mean anything. Early wagons mean jackshit, you know. You, however, really feel like going against me this early. RC doing weird shit I can ignore for now. But you, who doesn't even know me, jumped so fast at my feet that it really is weird.

At most, you have a policy lynch case building up for a lady telling jokes. At worst, you are trying to get me hung fast and generally just being a scum too eager for a mislynch.

And then? Why is your vote still on Allo?

Can't beat sound logic like that. Everyone on Allo!

Are you referencing 72? Do you actually have a good reason to be on Allo?

Where did the Allomancer push go.

So let me get this straight - you vote Allomancer for "shits and giggles", then use someone else's crappy logic to defend yourself, and then ask where the push went, and then later on complain about how people are referencing what you did for "shits and giggles" as possible bussing.

You know the one good thing about timers? Not counting horrible IRL events, we get pressure. Pressure = More Posts. More Posts = More fun.

This long timer is kinda screwing with me tbh.

Well you know, that's great and all, but if there's no content in your posts, then what's the point of a short timer?

The fact people keep bringing up a vote I did for shits and giggles as an accusation for bussing is... How do I describe this properly?

Oh yeah. Stupid as all hell. Also known as SAAH. Believe me, I thought it was a rockband as well.

See previous responses.

You assume I'm playing Mafia, when in reality I'm playing connect 4.

You assume my actions mean something day 1.

You assume I even read your post just now.

If nobody's actions meant anything Day 1, why do we have Day 1? Why do we even play Mafia?

The difference between Allomancer and me is that im honest in not wanting to do shit for town. He tries to not do stuff but make it look like he's working.

I'm not scum, just a bored terrorist with nothing to lose.

[/quote]

Nothing to lose but being WoTM'd out of every game for pulling this.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I apologize -

@mod

can you please fix my [/quote]?

Done ~ LA

[TheGoldenParadox]

Great! I don't think Jay should be lynched because she's doing a great job throwing shade at her wagoners!

Side note - why do you refer to elsa jay as "she" in your signature?

[TheGoldenParadox]

Fine.
UNVOTE: Bambi Jay
I'm going to trust NSG, because her meta reads are usually right, but I'm still FoSing Jay because this is like the easiest behavior to fake - ever.
VOTE: TonyMontana
I don't like your posting. Seems fluffy and useless.

[TheGoldenParadox]

VOTE: Bambi Jay

L-1. Bambi please try to read the game and examine.

If this slot is scum, great. If it's not, it's a policy lynch that really needs to happen. Bad posts, bad reactions, terrible for town if town. This slot needs to be lynched.

By the way, I was busy not pointing this out to try to get Bambi to engage in the game, but I've seen TGP make this sort of post before. It's very much reminiscent of a post where he made big bold letters on an L-1 in a newbie game a while back.

Guess what faction he was with there?

VOTE: thegoldenparadox

So wait... you're voting me because I clearly showed an L-1 AFTER you asked how many votes there were on Bambi, and that's somehow reminiscent of a post I made a year ago in a newbie game
What the ....?

[TheGoldenParadox]

So....that happened UNVOTE:

I'll read through that game in a bit, unless that's the lovers game in which case I've been through Bambi's iso.

Besides that a few things, I don't agree with Bambi clearing slots that didn't vote. If there are only 2 scum it's very likely they will vote one on one off on wagons that could end in a lynch. I think Bambi's could have so I also don't agree with slots saying a lynch was unlikely.

This may be a playstyle thing but don't join a wagon for the sake of it. I voted Bambi because I intended to lynch there. This voting for pressure thing always rubs me the wrong way.

Still feel Allo is a good lynch, it may not be Allo/Bambi but Allo's poor grasp on the game seems like lost scum to me.

Voting for pressure is a great way to get people engaged in the game
I could as easily see Allo as lost town. Scum would have buddies to guide them.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Looking back through TGP's ISO I actually just really don't like it. I don't think any of the questions he's asked has been good.

So you're getting on a wagon that started as an OMGUS. That's fine, I guess. Can you please point me to the questions I've asked that have not been good?

[TheGoldenParadox]

Looking back through TGP's ISO I actually just really don't like it. I don't think any of the questions he's asked has been good.

So you're getting on a wagon that started as an OMGUS. That's fine, I guess. Can you please point me to the questions I've asked that have not been good?

what does how the wagon started have to do with anything at all? should it change anything for me?

i don't think any question in 116 was very good with the exception perhaps of the one regarding the allo wagon, although even that i don't feel was asked with true sorting intent.

So wait... you're voting me because I clearly showed an L-1 AFTER you asked how many votes there were on Bambi, and that's somehow reminiscent of a post I made a year ago in a newbie game
What the ....?

your response to brass here is just kind of a defense of yourself without any commentary at all on how it relates to brassherald and his alignment. it doesn't feel like you actually care about figuring out if the person who, in your eyes, just made this really terrible vote is town or scum. that to me somewhat indicates that you already know the answer.

Would you prefer, "YOU'RE FUCKING SCUM! YOU MADE A BAD VOTE ON ME! GO DIE IN HELL!"
I'm trying to understand how I'm supposed to sort you and by extension Jay. There were three questions in 166, literally two of which were jokes/responses to jokes. The third is the one you mentioned. What makes you think that was not asked with "true sorting intent"?

[TheGoldenParadox]

I apologize. I swear this has nothing to do with the game - I'm going through a rough patch in life right now and can't play a lot until Monday.

@mod V/LA until Monday

Noted ~ LA

[TheGoldenParadox]

Maybe murdering Paradox will cure all your boredoms.

(Particularly to you Amor, considering you still got a vote on me)

Thank you for continuing your fuck-this-game vendetta. Please continue. I really appreciate your mountain of fluff.

Sry, my last few days were unexpectedly busy with sick kids

If anyone asks me questions, I'll answer them. No one is asking me questions, so I have nothing to answer.

I like asking questions, I'm fine with answering, I don't want to clog up the thread with my thoughts where maybe no one is interested in my specific thoughts.

And read lists suck ass.

Ok, fair point. Even though I think town usually is interested in everyones thoughts, because it helps sorting people.
UNVOTE: Brassherald

I actually like this wagon right now and mostly just want to push it through, maybe with RCE and Munch? -D

I wouldn't mind jumping on that wagon. I can see TGP being scum. But I would feel better putting him on L-1, if TGP would join the discussion and not be VLA for the next few days...

I see the unvote on brass as trying to backtrack, and I don't like it. I think Tony is scum, and nothing I've seen from you has shown otherwise. I don't see a lot of discussion oing on, and I apologize if I am the reason for this, but I will be active starting Monday.

Looking through RCE's ISO, I pulled the most standout posts, but there seems to be a general trend of self-contradiction and do as i say, not as i do.
VOTE: RCEnigma

Can you elaborate this general trend of self-contradiction? Because I only see someone saying you and Bambi are scum throughout the game...

I'm not sure I understand the second sentence, but I agree with the first. Munch, can you please commit and place a vote if you think that Allo is contradicting themselves?

Being wrong isn't a crime. Being horribly wrong to the point of killing a dude is manslaughter.

And you're about to be horribly wrong if you lynch me. So as a proponent of this wagon, can you PbPA me if you have time? I'd really like to see what the case against me is. (This extends to anyone on my wagon.)

[TheGoldenParadox]

I mean we theoretically can, but right now, as I've said before, I don't find TGP particularly scummy and while he's not posting because he is v/la he'll stay that way.

Do you mean that I'll continue to not post after my VLA is over? Why would I do that? And also, even though I'm not posting a lot, I'm still more active than some. I haven't disappeared from the game completely.

What, we can't move on someone who's VLA now? I know what to do in all my scum games with Allo

I think unfortunately my V/LA is delaying the game. I'm sorry, and I'm really trying to fix that, but I don't think there's a ton I can do - I think we all agree that sometimes, you need to put your IRL health over your mafia life.

This is Painful, if you want something done, do it yourself.

Vote Brass

VOTE: brass

So this is giving me scummy vibes and really seeming a bit odd. I don't recall either of them expressing suspicion of brass, so barring them being neighbors/masons (daytalk?) and having learned something we don't know, why would they both vote someone they didn't say was scummy before, one after the other, without explanation?

Well nothing really's gonna get done with the only wagon being on TGP while TGP is on V/LA, so there's that.

Yes, there's that.
VOTE: Allomancer

What do you see out of this vote? Allo seems towny to me, but you said he straw-maned RCE? However, you weren't going to vote him because you wanted to vote me, but had second thoughts about putting someone on V/LA at L-1?

What happened?

This seems to me like another backtrack to me on 324.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I don't see TGP coming back to make his comments, particularly why he basically bailed after accusing me so heartedly then proceeded to lurk as one of the Crewman.

I know confronting me leads to a shit ton of death and destruction, but to swing at me then fly away like the wind? Very regrettable.

Summoned.
Screw off.
Seriously, stop making us all put up with your bull.
Thank you for your amazing insightful comment.
Bye.